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Q&A: Ariel Pink On Trump, Madonna, & His New Album Dedicated To Bobby Jameson

“Pursuit of fame is as deadly as any narcotic I have ever used,” proclaims the header of Bobby Jameson’s blog. He started writing entries in 2007, after a silence so long his former peers in the music business thought he must be dead. That’s because, until he left it in the 1980s, he was known as the “Mayor Of Sunset Strip” more for being a relentless firebrand — whether protesting the Vietnam War or bemoaning his lack of rock stardom and financial success — than he was for the songs he wrote. Dogged by drugs, alcohol, and attempted suicide, Jameson resurfaced three decades later to relate his tales of woe and set his record straight before passing away in 2015, at age 70. He was never the household name he wanted to be, but now another outspoken figure from Los Angeles is attempting to resurrect his memory. Though it’s not a tribute lyrically or sonically, Ariel Pink’s latest album, Dedicated To Bobby Jameson, draws some clear parallels between the two musicians just by invoking the name.

Now pushing 40, Ariel Pink (born Ariel Marcus Rosenberg) has lived his entire life on the West Coast pursuing the kind of attention and notoriety so many artists crave. After critics panned his first releases — mainly home-recorded psych-pop freakouts released via cassette and then reissued on Animal Collective’s Paw Tracks label — Pink signed to 4AD and released his breakout LP, Before Today, in 2010. Whether it had to do with his shift toward a more polished sound or, as he posits, the mainstream suddenly became interested in his particular brand of weirdness, Pink found himself thrust into the indie spotlight. He dragged other obscure acts into it, too, collaborating with R. Stevie Moore, for instance, or ending Mature Themes (the equally praised 2012 follow-up to Before Today) with a cover of “Baby” by Donnie and Joe Emerson, a little-known brother duo from rural Washington who saw their self-recorded ’79 LP re-released by Light In The Attic thanks to the exposure. That he would dedicate his latest album to another cult hero is no surprise.

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Like Jameson, Pink learned that being semi-famous has its pitfalls. His last album for 4AD, pom pom, was all but overshadowed by the controversial statements he made in interviews leading up to its release. After sparking feuds with Madonna and Grimes, and claiming to be maced by a feminist and raped by a dominatrix, Pink was likened to the men’s rights trolls of 4chan (a situation exacerbated by the fact that they were also his core demographic). It certainly didn’t help matters when he doubled down by saying, “Everybody’s a victim, except for small, white, nice guys who just want to make their moms proud and touch some boobies” in an interview with The New Yorker. Pink is defensive about his portrayal as a misogynist, but his comments, time and time again, seemed clearly meant to deflect blame and provoke more ire at once.

Has the cautionary tale of Bobby Jameson’s troubles with the music industry given Ariel Pink any pause? Pink claims that everything he’s done from the beginning has been one big experiment in remaining unchanged, for better or for worse. Dedicated To Bobby Jameson, his first LP for Mexican Summer, is absent the trappings of studio recording that legitimized his work for 4AD; his return to a lo-fi approach makes this effort feel more wholly his own while recalling his early Paw Tracks releases. Retro synths, vocal manipulations, and sleazy beats abound, but there are also clever odes to alt-pop acts like the Vaselines (“Bubblegum Dreams”) and his perennial favorite, the Cure (“Feels Like Heaven”). But perhaps most telling is contemplative single “Another Weekend,” in which a hard-partier takes stock of the damage his debauchery has wrought, or the tongue-in-cheek “Dreamdate Narcissist,” in which Pink conjures chillwave by name. Pink seems well aware of his reputation, and remains unapologetic. Though he says he’s gotten over the need for attention that initially drove him to begin making music, one gets the sense that his compulsion to maintain a subversive image will die hard, especially when he admits on the Dedicated To Bobby Jameson’s final track, “Acting comes naturally, I’m acting out my fantasies.” We attempted to get to the real Ariel Pink by meeting up with him for a Q&A in Brooklyn. Read on below.

STEREOGUM: Your new album, Dedicated To Bobby Jameson, harkens back in many ways to your lo-fi bedroom recordings, which is something of a departure from the last three albums you released with 4AD. What influenced that return to those roots, if anything?

ARIEL PINK: Well, I think recording it at home was a big part of it. I pretty much took it back to being more or less me at the helm of the recording. Of course, I did have plenty of guests on the record; there’s plenty of other people’s contributions. It’s not exactly like the way I used to do it when I was at home alone by myself with my 8-track. It’s been several years since I got out of my house and started recording with a budget, and in studios, and with band members and stuff like that, and it took me that amount of time to learn that it wasn’t the ideal way of working. I brought it back home, where you don’t have to worry about hours, or punch a clock or anything like that. So that made it a lot easier and left me wondering why I didn’t do this a lot sooner.

STEREOGUM: Those studio-recorded albums were well-received critically; do you feel like they were lacking the Ariel Pink thumbprint? What about home recording feels more authentic to you?

ARIEL PINK: There’s just less negotiation, less things in the mix that basically dilute whatever it is that I do. You have to make compromises and decisions, and the less pushback that I get, the less obstacles that are in my way, the more my sensibility shines through. And mind you, that’s arguably what people require. My job is to be me, so I’m not doing my job if I’m turning into something else completely.

STEREOGUM: Did the disdain for that process play into your decision to work with Mexican Summer instead of 4AD?

ARIEL PINK: Well, the deal with 4AD was for three records, and we satisfied that deal. My experience with 4AD played into my decision to jump ship — not saying anything bad about 4AD. You sort of want to get married for a little while but there’s this planned obsolescence. I wasn’t marrying them for life, you know? Basically, Mexican Summer was interested even before we signed to 4AD. The fact that they were interested afterwards and throughout does bode well for my decision to go with them. And their label has come a long way since they first started, so it’s good to see that they’re thriving or at least above water. The difference between them is stark. One is like, you’re part of a small piece in a bigger machine; you don’t have as much personalized care and attention. I think Mexican Summer is really investing a lot in what I’m doing, as opposed to 4AD, where I was more of a pet rock on the manager’s table, a gift, not something they were really gonna invest much in. Everybody wants things to succeed, but to a point, because then it gets really complicated. They want their indie cred, but they also, don’t want to have to be accountable to people for the rest of their lives.

STEREOGUM: What about your collaborators? Between this album and pom pom, you’ve worked with a lot of other musicians — Weyes Blood, Dâm-Funk, Miley Cyrus, Theophilus London, Avalanches, Puro Instinct, Lushlife, Mild High Club, and lots of others. Did working with other artists influence the way you approached this record?

ARIEL PINK: Yeah, I mean that’s just a natural consequence of being higher profile and in demand. That’s also a consequence of my having a publishing deal in which my job is to do co-writes with people. Not those people specifically, but I’m constantly scheduling co-write meetings with producers and other songwriters and we’re writing songs for other people. That’s part of the nature of what I do.

STEREOGUM: Do you like that process or do you find it distracting from making your own music?

ARIEL PINK: It’s not distracting. It’s something else. It’s not my music, it’s our music. It’s kind of like, the difference between doing a record at home or doing it in the studio with a band. It becomes less my thing, even though my name is still on the marquee in a lot of instances. There are things I don’t necessarily want to own as my thing, because they’re a group effort. The best way to deal with my career is just to have as little of other people’s say so, and they would probably agree. Anybody that gets involved wants direction from me; I would love nothing more than to just get a bunch of geniuses to come up with all this stuff, but if they don’t make those creative decisions. Lyrics are a perfect example of that. I have the hardest time writing lyrics for stuff, and I would love nothing more than to just have somebody supply the lyrics. I make the music; I just think in music terms. So that’s what I do first and then I sort of have to trick myself into doing the lyrics at the last minute in order to settle on them. I do them right before I record them. So by the time I’ve recorded them, it’s like, oh shit, I can’t correct it. I don’t go back a million times. If I wrote the lyrics beforehand, I’d have all the time in the world to edit them and I’d never settle on anything. That’s a way to trick the real me, without any kind of cosmetics, into basically just doing the thing because nobody else is doing it. It’s the last thing I have to do — just settling on words without having to think about them and be so cerebral about everything.

STEREOGUM: Do you think that makes your lyrics more authentic to how you’re feeling?

ARIEL PINK: They’re closer to being in the spirit of the thing. It’s not rocket science. I don’t think what I’m doing is what Bob Dylan does, for instance. I think there has to be a sort of recklessness about certain things. The face of it has to be less manufactured.

STEREOGUM: There’s a certain value in going with the first idea — a lot of times it’s the freshest, most immediate.

ARIEL PINK: Exactly, because that’s what we’re dealing with. We’re dealing with rock music, for lack of a better term; pop music. So the face on top of the music, that’s the attitude. Otherwise the music doesn’t have an attitude. It’s why it’s so important to have lyrics and have singers. Having words somehow takes the listener above and outside of the music. The music is just background. It’s supposed to be the soundtrack to the person’s thought process, and [the words and music] are somehow supposed to align, as if they have anything to do with each other, but they don’t. I mean, the music comes to me in a much more organic way than lyrics do, so in order to parallel that process you have to sort of trick your mind into saying things that you might not say in any other instance and be okay with it, not worry too much about the meaning, and not worry about the message so much as you create a message by degrees and in little places. The themes of the record that you’re alluding to, those aren’t themes that are necessarily in the lyrics at all; those are like impressions that are left and solidified and put in the spotlight, those are cosmetic things. Like the album art. Those are all impressions that contribute to where your focus is. It’s about fantasy, it’s about creating different moods and different focal points that you sort of highlight and say oh okay, well this record’s about this because it unfolds this way and the song titles are like this, and you sort of come up with the content after the fact and reflect on it and say, this is about this. It’s not really about that, obviously. It’s much more open to interpretation, but at the core it’s not about anything.

STEREOGUM: Well in terms of the theme, you went with something pretty concrete — the title of the album, and one of its tracks, is Dedicated To Bobby Jameson, this tragic little-known figure in rock ‘n’ roll who later in life blogged about music industry woes. How did you become aware of his story and what part specifically resonated with you? Why did you choose him as a sort of totem for this album?

ARIEL PINK: I discovered him probably about a year after he died. My friend Giddle Partridge was friends with him, and she pointed me to some of his YouTube rantings. That sort of led me to his blog, which is like his unpublished autobiography, and I read that. I was totally taken by it. I found myself completely engrossed in his writing voice and his story, how well his memory served him, but also the urgency he was writing with. He’s not a writer that decided he was going to be a writer. It’s not like he ever intended on writing a book about his life. He’s grabbing you by the collar and saying, “This is what happened, OK?” It’s basically like when you hear a record by people that have no business playing instruments or writing a record, and it feels like a treat. So, it was that, in combination with the way that it resonated with me. There’s so many aspects to it; of course I identify with him in many ways. But also just like, the fact that his story, or his Wikipedia entry, the way that people now see it, is all from his mouth. He could’ve gone to his grave without writing the blog and no one would know anything. That’s not a fate that usually befalls a person — they don’t get to write out their destiny. It’s usually a consensus; what they say is the least important part. Nina Simone — we know she’s as crazy as she is, not from her autobiography, but because we see it from everybody else’s vantage point in the consensus. [Bobby Jameson’s story] is a triumph, and the irony behind it is that he lived just long enough to set in stone his version of the events. That’s like, wow, what an amazing way to go out.

I think it says a lot that people thought he was dead for 30 years just by virtue of the fact that he wasn’t feeding the madness that came to typify his identity in the music biz. He was barely known from the get go, but if he was known, he was known as essentially that guy, like one of those annoying types that you avoid on the street. There was no Summer Of Love for him; he went straight to Helter Skelter, like in ’64 right off the bat. His manager just died a month ago, Tony Alamo. Before he was a religious cult leader-slash-pedophile rapist serving 200 years in jail for these notorious crimes, he was a pot-smoking manager in early ’60s LA, with Bobby Jameson as one of his acts. The people on the periphery of his story, they all were way more famous than him. They weren’t famous yet, when they worked with him, but they would eventually become famous. They were feeling out their first moves in the whole thing, and he barely merited any mention from any of them.

STEREOGUM: He was more of a fly on the wall in that whole scene.

ARIEL PINK: He was a gnat. He was a nuisance. He thought he was a rock star; he just needed to have the right deal come by, and he would just get what everybody else around him was getting. Everybody was sort of like, fielding the thing properly but somehow he was just stuck lamenting about how he never got paid for his first recordings and that just annoys everybody. Then he became that guy that’s on the sidewalk that’s basically just a belligerent asshole that you don’t even want to talk to. And then he’s the guy that’s trying to commit suicide every other week. It’s the saddest thing, but that’s because he was so wrapped up in his identity as a rock star that was on the verge of making it for 20 years. You’re supposed to have grown out of this by the time you’re 20. Everybody else and their mother sort of has a record deal, shows up, goes away, and life goes on. It’s a youth movement. You’re supposed to grow up. Well, he didn’t grow up, and he never got his five seconds just to like, quell his anxiety about it. And it was still there 30 years after the fact, even after people were like, “he must be dead,” because he’s not jumping off the Capitol Records building.

But the funny thing about that is as soon as he came back online, in 2007, it was as if his anger and angst that he harbored in the late ’70s about it, right before he ditched LA and went up to San Luis Obispo and became a Hells Angel and a bricklayer and took care of his mom in a trailer park, it was like no time had passed. He fell right back into the same archetype and essentially was coming online to stop traffic.

STEREOGUM: That’s the beauty of blogging; it gives a voice to those that otherwise aren’t afforded an audience.

ARIEL PINK: They still didn’t want to hear him! Nobody wants to hear anybody complain because nobody wants to feel responsible. They don’t wanna be the reason why he’s on the streets.

STEREOGUM: Do you feel like his experience with the music industry is a bit of a cautionary tale? Obviously things have changed since the ’60s –

ARIEL PINK: I think it’s pretty much the same, and that whole idea of fame is a real elusive thing. It’s just a feeling that people have. To many people, I might be famous, but I know differently. I know that I’m not famous. I have friends that are talented, that look at me as if I’ve made it and beat themselves up over why their ship hasn’t arrived. It’s a matter of how you feel. That angst that I had — I didn’t even realize I had it, mind you — I just wanted a little bit of love and attention. I didn’t even realize it for 26 years, you know? Then when it came, it was like, aw shit, that’s it? I don’t have the same urge or drive to create like I used to. That was all just a desperate plea for attention. Maybe that’s what informed it and made it so vital at the time, but that’s gone now. I had to rearrange my mind on how to write songs. I definitely don’t do it the same way or for the same reasons that I used to.

STEREOGUM: Is that the idea behind “Time To Live”? Reminding yourself to get out of bed, make music, function with some normalcy?

ARIEL PINK: What is it they say in Shawshank Redemption? You gotta either get busy living or get busy dying. It’s just bullshit. Take it with a grain of salt. I feel like Bobby Jameson’s life, I identify with it. That angst part was me before I felt that acknowledgement, and once you feel the acknowledgement, you can move on. Art is this weird therapeutic thing; you’re supposed to actually do it so you don’t have to do it anymore. You should get to a place where you’ve expelled it. Anybody that says that they’re an artist and keeps repeating the mantra like if they say it enough times it’ll be the case, there’s an insecurity there. They use that as a safety net but it’s also a crutch. They’d rather be “artists” than be happy and actually purge. God forbid they should stop making “art.” So they use their misery and their hardship as a sort of grist for the creative mill, and that’s a completely retarded thing. And everybody encourages it. It’s juvenile, but that’s what we expect from our artists. We infantilize them; we don’t want to see them act responsibly. And when they act responsibly like Damien Hirst or Jeff Koontz, we bring them down to size. We really don’t like success. We don’t want to see success. We resent people that succeed. Look at Donald Trump. [Success] didn’t really buy him that much respect. We just hate that guy. He can’t do anything right. He’s made a good living for himself but as far as we’re concerned he’s the most evil person on the planet. I don’t think there’s anybody that’s been more hated in their life, has more people hating him, than him.

STEREOGUM: Lots of people voted for Trump based on his business “success” without thinking about whether he’d be a successful politician. Don’t you think the hatred might stem more from his propaganda and harmful policies? If anything, it’s the fact that he’s deemed himself a success without being able to back it up.

ARIEL PINK: But the guy can’t get any love from the media in this country. I think he’s a success story. Before he was president, he was a success story. He has a family, he’s got an empire. Success is subjective, but if somebody thinks of themselves as a success, I guess that’s the first step toward being successful. Obviously if somebody feels like a failure, everybody casting them as a success story is fooling themselves because that person doesn’t even feel successful. That’s kind of almost like putting them down. But [Trump] obviously does feel that and we’re like, obviously you’re way up your own ass. I really think that the world is on its head, almost across the board. People’s priorities are really confused and fucked up. There’s a lot of distractions and confusing things. I’m not saying that he’s not confused. But I would be too, if I was the most hated person on the planet almost universally. If you couldn’t get love anywhere, wouldn’t that fuck you up? Nobody looks at themselves as being a contributing part of that. Nobody takes responsibility for producing a monster like him.

STEREOGUM: Do you think he’ll be remembered as a successful president?

ARIEL PINK: I think it puts a blinder on when he hasn’t even started his presidency and people are already saying that he’s not gonna be remembered as a good president. Think about the damage that might do. Who’s damning the chances? People are already too caught up in legacy things. Maybe that’s why we’ve had a run of bad luck in certain government policies. Donald Trump symbolizes to me how everyone has it wrong and people don’t appreciate how much they have it wrong. They don’t take the opportunity to look at themselves and say, what’s wrong? They’re just like, that’s not America and that’s not me! No, that’s you. It’s you, you live here, you are America, you are that, you are Donald Trump, whether you want to believe it or not. You haven’t faced it.

STEREOGUM: Do you support the president’s policies?

ARIEL PINK: I’m a devil’s advocate. But I’m an American in a very real sense. I would’ve supported Hillary, anybody that got into the position, because I believe that America should stay alive and whatever that takes, I’m all for that. There’s nobody that I wouldn’t [support]; you could vote a four-year-old in and I would be all for it, but that’s because I’m a greedy capitalist.

STEREOGUM: So is the greedy capitalist mentality what propels your music now that you’ve purged your need for attention, as you put it?

ARIEL PINK: Not even. What’s driving my career as an artist, is that I’m a career artist. People might see me as a hack or whatever. That’s fair enough. But I do what I do. Maybe I would do it anyway, do it differently and perhaps better, and maybe people would love it if I didn’t get any attention. They’d like to believe that I’ve lost something, and I have. I’ve lost an innocence. Maybe innocence isn’t always the goal. It’s where you start. But cynicism is the killer of innocence so part of me is like, you know, Ariel, you have to get back in touch with what it was that made you enter into music and what was so life-changing about it. If you look closely that innocence is still there, maybe. You will not be in touch with that if you’re not doing that part of your job.

STEREOGUM: Do you like being in the spotlight and doing all these interviews?

ARIEL PINK: No, I hate it. I hate it. I despise it, but I do it, like a job. The cynicism is in the irony that I have to sit here for a week with wall-to-wall interviews focused on me, coming back to the same questions that I have to repeat and I don’t believe after I’ve repeated them so many times. I can’t really settle on anything about myself. It’s like a primal therapy session, an interrogation that never ends. People want to focus on me and I’m basically like, no no no, let’s talk about Bobby Jameson. That’s the whole point — it’s a way to distract, obviously. I realize that now. I only realized it after the fact though. The song itself, there’s no lyric that says “Dedicated To Bobby Jameson.” There’s no reason why I should’ve named it that way; I came up with the album title before anything else, and I had to have a song that was named that. Why do I do these things? There’s no theme on the record. It’s because I’m basically trying to take the spotlight off of me.

STEREOGUM: Was that a direct response to the press you got leading up to pom pom? It seemed like every interview you did was more controversial than the last.

ARIEL PINK: Yeah. I got the Donald Trump treatment before Donald Trump. I could’ve warned him. The very first interview I did, an Australian interview at the top of the campaign, set the mood. That guy just had daggers in his sights, and I hadn’t even settled into the groove of doing the campaign for the record, and it was very alarming, very obnoxious and very destabilizing, especially at my age. I’m not Hitler. I’m not a Nazi. I’m a harmless lover of things. And I love Madonna too! Way to ruin my chances with that lady. She’s so great! She’s had greater success and a greater string of memorable hits that I like personally than almost any of my favorite artists, and yet here I am, people saying that I’m throwing her under the bus. I was paraphrasing what the label said to me. People think that I was saying those things. Interscope came to me saying her last record didn’t do too well, she had her Avicii, she had all these things she wanted but there weren’t any songs there, so that’s why they were looking for writers. I was paraphrasing why they would hire somebody like me for somebody like her. So those aren’t things that I feel about her — the stripper pole shit or whatever — those aren’t my feelings. I want to work with Madonna! They were just looking at songwriters, so the next record could do better than her last one. That’s all it was. And people take it as my opinions that are valid; that’s not even my opinion!

STEREOGUM: Well it didn’t end with Madonna; there were lots of choice moments that people latched onto. You were sort of branded as a troll.

ARIEL PINK: Yeah, because I was responding to people completely misrepresenting me, and that was like a witch hunt. I felt persecuted. I don’t know how you would feel, if people said that you were a mansplaining men’s rights activist. What if they said that about you? And all the feminists in the world basically came out and started getting on your case. So they would go after you, and you would basically try to downplay it as much as possible but they’re just not letting you because they’re saying you’re just fucking wrong, dude. It’s a perversion of whatever it is that they projected onto me.

STEREOGUM: So you’re saying that your statements were taken out of context and twisted?

ARIEL PINK: Yeah. Like when I say Grimes is stupid for saying that Ariel’s characterization of Madonna is a perfect example of the misogyny that’s in the business today. Making me, again, an adversary, when I have nothing but great respect for both Grimes and Madonna. The headline was “Grimes Is Stupid” because I “hate women.” It backs up my hatred of women and of Madonna. So you see how it’s just willful blindness on the part of everyone.

STEREOGUM: Do you think the internet makes it harder to make an offhanded comment? Do you find yourself having to watch what you say because everything is under more scrutiny?

ARIEL PINK: You need to be in the room with somebody to get a vibe for what they feel and what they think, and even then you can only take it for what it’s worth. You might not know somebody through and through just by meeting them once or twice. There’s all these layers that are mediating the impression that you’re making on the world, and reading something that I said is one way of totally polluting what my message is, one way of bringing what the writer says, what he pays attention to, quoting me out of context and that kind of stuff, without any of my mannerisms. People are being manipulated to think one way about me, one way about anybody. For me, it just hammers the point that you really have to take what the world thinks and what you read with a grain of salt in every respect and you can’t really believe anybody. That fuels my angst a little bit. But it’s good, there’s a little fire left in me. I thought I had extinguished all of it, but here I am acting like a petulant 13-year-old again. Maybe that’s a good thing.

STEREOGUM: So you feel like you learned from that process? Do you have deep takeaways from your time as the most hated man in indie rock?

ARIEL PINK: I’ll be lucky if I ever get that kind of coverage ever again.

STEREOGUM: All you have to do is say something controversial.

ARIEL PINK: All you gotta do is listen for something that might be perceived as that and seize on it. I’ve already said it, I’m sure. I’ve already said plenty of scandalous things.

STEREOGUM: So you don’t start out to say the scandalous thing; it just comes out and lives a life of its own in print?

ARIEL PINK: No! I mean, I love that I am a harmless pipsqueak in the world and I’ve got goodwill, and I’m the one that is seen as a threat. That to me is like, poetic justice on its head. It just shows how right I was back when I was a little a kid about how wrong the world is. My angst was right back then and continues to be today. There are still kernels of it. I really just think about what kind of example we’re leaving for future generations.

STEREOGUM: In what way?

ARIEL PINK: Oh, like in the way that we want everybody to be really honest about everything. Honesty is such a huge thing, trust with other people. It’s overrated. We don’t really want those things. Certain things should not be encouraged. I don’t necessarily need to speak my mind all the time and be one 100% genuine and truthful.

STEREOGUM: As a protective maneuver?

ARIEL PINK: We need to protect things; honesty is not the best policy. I like to express myself and not care about the consequences and think that I should be able to, without having to be crucified for what I say, but that’s very naive of me. And I can understand a little bit more about why parents present a different picture [of themselves] to you [as a child]. We end up resenting them a lot of times as hypocrites, but I think that’s because we really misjudge the core reasons why they might say one thing and do another. Everybody’s got blood on their hands. I represent that in a lot of ways. I’m not the future of music; I’m dad rock now. I’m old hat. I don’t think I’m young anymore.

STEREOGUM: Well the album has pop moments and shoegaze moments –

ARIEL PINK: Different types of dad rock.

STEREOGUM: But it is still a little out there. It’s still probably too weird for Steely Dan fans.

ARIEL PINK: It’s easy to be weird. You just have to not be whatever’s happening in any given 15 minutes. It’s easy for me to be weird; what’s weird to me is there was 15 minutes when I wasn’t weird, and I’m less weird now than I was before that time came. I’m a lot less weird now than I seemed for most of my life, and to me it’s because the world came to me on my terms. It became fashionable, got taken in and absorbed and blown up and now it doesn’t sound as weird anymore as when it first came out. I was much more of a scourge, of a turd in the punch bowl. It’s hard for people to understand that if they weren’t there or if they’re just coming into seeing it from a different vantage point, that’s gonna be paved over.

STEREOGUM: What about songs like “Death Patrol” and “Santa’s In The Closet,” which really subvert pop music and are reminiscent of back catalogue oddities like “Creepshow”?

ARIEL PINK: It all harkens back. I don’t really change that much, ever. It’s really all still melodic. I don’t progress. Whereas your Mac DeMarcos and everybody else is gonna basically develop with the times, incorporate whatever. People change depending on the climate. I don’t really change, never did change. Maybe the fidelity gets better, but the template is just basically the same.

STEREOGUM: So those 15 minutes where you weren’t considered weird was because the zeitgeist actually got weirder around you?

ARIEL PINK: I just happened to be passing through when the microscope happened to notice me. But it’s as weird as it ever was, or not weird; I don’t do anything really atonal. It’s like, making melodic-retro-something-or-other. I don’t know how I feel about it. To me it’s a weird art experiment I did with myself. I wanted to not change. I wanted to actually see what would happen if I decided to plant myself in Cure-land for like, all my life. I wanted to be perceived this way. I wanted to micromanage my image back in the day, and it was an experiment to not progress, to be completely against change, to see what happens when you don’t change in the face of change that has to happen; you can’t stop change from happening, so why try to change with the times? What happens when someone doesn’t change and stays the same and does the same thing over and over again forever, forever? There should be more examples of people just doing what they always did and not really feeling the pressure of modernity imposing upon them.

STEREOGUM: So more than the music itself, remaining unchanged is your grand statement?

ARIEL PINK: My grand statement is that I knew what I was doing back then and I know what I’m doing now and I’m just gonna keep on doing it. I guess I’m not very ambitious. All I needed to do was pay my rent for me to feel successful. It’s pretty low-hanging fruit.

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5 People Passed Away From Eating Lettuce, But Trump FDA Still Won’t Make Farms Test Water For Bacteria

A specialist harvests romaine lettuce in Salinas, Calif., in August 2007. After an E. coli episode on spinach slaughtered three individuals in 2006, California and Arizona producers of verdant greens willfully consented to test their water system water and make other wellbeing strides.

William Whitt languished rough the runs over days. In any case, once he started heaving blood, he knew the time had come to hurry to the healing facility. His body swelled up so much that his better half idea he resembled the Michelin Man, and within, his digestion tracts were aroused and dying.

For four days the previous spring, specialists attempted to control the contamination that was desolating Whitt, a dad of three in western Idaho. The torment was agonizing, despite the fact that he was given opioid painkillers intravenously at regular intervals for quite a long time.

His family dreaded they would lose him.

“I was startled. I wouldn’t leave the doctor’s facility since I didn’t know he was all the while going to be there when I got back,” said Whitt’s significant other, Melinda.

Whitt and his family were bewildered: How could a solid 37-year-old all of a sudden become so ill? While he was battling for his life, the U.S. Places for Disease Control and Prevention tested Whitt, looking for data about what had sickened him.

At last, the organization’s second call offered a sign: “They continued boring me about plate of mixed greens,” Whitt reviewed. Before he fell sick, he had eaten two plates of mixed greens from a pizza shop.

William Whitt and wife Melinda say it is irresponsible for the Food and Drug Administration to postpone water-testing req

William Whitt and spouse Melinda say it is reckless for the Food and Drug Administration to put off water-testing prerequisites for create producers. “Individuals ought to have the capacity to realize that the nourishment they’re purchasing wouldn’t hurt them and their friends and family,” Melinda Whitt said.

The offender ended up being E. coli, an intense pathogen that had sullied romaine lettuce developed in Yuma, Arizona, and conveyed across the nation. Something like 210 individuals in 36 states were sickened. Five kicked the bucket and 27 endured kidney disappointment. A similar strain of E. coli that sickened them was distinguished in a Yuma trench used to flood a few yields.

For over 10 years, it’s been certain that there’s a vast gap in American sustenance wellbeing: Growers aren’t required to test their water system water for pathogens, for example, E. coli. Subsequently, tainted water can wind up on leafy foods.

After a few prominent malady flare-ups connected to nourishment, Congress in 2011 arranged a fix, and create producers this year would have started testing their water under standards made by the Obama organization’s Food and Drug Administration.

In any case, a half year before individuals were sickened by the sullied romaine, President Donald Trump‘s FDA – reacting to weight from the ranch business and Trump’s structure to dispense with directions – retired the water-testing rules for somewhere around four years.

Notwithstanding this savage flare-up, the FDA has hinted at no rethinking its intend to put off the tenets. The organization likewise is thinking about significant changes, for example, enabling some create producers to test less as often as possible or discover choices to water testing to guarantee the wellbeing of their harvests.

The FDA’s absence of direness confuses nourishment security researchers.

“Confusing, isn’t it?” said Trevor Suslow, a nourishment wellbeing master at the University of California, Davis. “On the off chance that the hazard factor related with agrarian water utilize is that firmly fixing to tainting and episodes, there should be something now. … I can’t think about motivation to legitimize holding up four to six to eight years to begin.”

The dangerous Yuma episode underscores that water system water is a prime wellspring of foodborne diseases. Now and again, the excrement of domesticated animals or wild creatures stream into a rivulet. At that point the polluted water saturates wells or is showered onto deliver, which is then gathered, prepared and sold at stores and eateries. Serving of mixed greens are especially helpless in light of the fact that they regularly are eaten crude and can harbor microscopic organisms when torn.

After an E. coli flare-up murdered three individuals who ate spinach developed in California’s Salinas Valley in 2006, most California and Arizona producers of verdant greens consented to arrangements to deliberately test their water system water.

Whitt’s lettuce would have been secured by those assentions. Be that as it may, his story outlines the points of confinement of a deliberate security program and how deadly E. coli can be notwithstanding when insurances are taken by homesteads and processors.

Ranch bunches battle that water testing is excessively costly and ought not have any significant bearing, making it impossible to deliver, for example, apples or onions, which are less inclined to convey pathogens.

“I think the entire thing is an exaggerated endeavor to apply government control over us,” said Bob Allen, a Washington state apple agriculturist.

While deferring the water-testing standards would spare cultivators $12 million every year, it additionally would cost shoppers $108 million every year in therapeutic costs, as indicated by a FDA examination.

For Whitt and his family, his sickness has been awful and in addition expensive. In the wake of returning home from his nine-day healing center remain, he depended on opiate painkillers for around about a month and a half. The contamination caused a hernia and tore gaps in the coating of his stomach that specialists needed to fix with work. After five months, despite everything he has deadness from the medical procedure and looseness of the bowels consistently.

Whitt and his better half said it is flippant for the FDA to defer the water-testing necessities when authorities realized that individuals like Whitt could pay a powerful cost.

“Individuals ought to have the capacity to realize that the nourishment they’re purchasing wouldn’t hurt them and their friends and family,” Melinda Whitt said. “Now, we question everything that goes into our mouths.”

FDA demonstrates no criticalness

The government regularly requires water testing to ensure the public:Tap water is tried to ensure it meets wellbeing measures, thus arebeaches, lakes and swimming pools.

In any case, under the Trump organization plan, substantial producers wouldn’t have tostart assessing their water frameworks and every year test surface waters for pathogens until 2022.

At that point they will have an extra two years to guarantee water system water that interacts with vegetables and organic product does not contain E. coli over a specific fixation.

For the littlest homesteads, investigations and yearly testing will start in 2024, and they will have until 2026 to meet E. coli principles.

That implies full consistence with the protections wouldn’t come until 20 years after three individuals passed on from eating California spinach, 15 years after Congress marked the Food Safety Modernization Act and eight years after Whitt and in excess of 200 others were sickened by romaine lettuce.

While the deferral is only a proposition until further notice, the FDA has guaranteed producers that it won’t authorize the prerequisites meanwhile.

FDA authorities declined talk with demands. Be that as it may, a representative said the organization proposed the deferral to guarantee the testing prerequisites are compelling.

“The Yuma flare-up does in fact accentuate the desperation of setting up rural water models, yet it is imperative that they be the correct guidelines, ones that both meet our general wellbeing mission and are practical for producers to meet,” FDA representative Juli Putnam said in light of composed inquiries.

Also, the FDA did not test water in a Yuma water system waterway until the point when seven weeks after the territory’s lettuce was recognized as the reason for the previous spring’s flare-up. What’s more, college researchers endeavoring to gain from the flare-up say ranchers have not shared water information with them as they attempt to make sense of how it happened and keep away from future ones.

Why agriculturists should test water

The FDA presently can’t seem to disentangle the puzzle of how the Yuma romaine sickened such a large number of individuals. Be that as it may, water system water is a “practical clarification,” the FDA said in an August refresh. Examination of water tests from waterways distinguished E. coli with indistinguishable hereditary unique mark from the microorganisms that sickened Whitt and others. A huge cows feedlot is under scrutiny as a conceivable source.

The romaine episode is reminiscent of the 2006 spinach flare-up, which sickened somewhere around 200 individuals in 26 states, executing a 2-year-old kid and two elderly ladies. Investigators followed the E. coli strain to a stream defiled with dung from cows and wild pigs that at that point saturated well water.

Numerous producers inundate with water straight from streams or wells without testing it for pathogens. Pathogens from water can be consumed by a plant’s foundations. A CDC audit revealed that half of all foodborne sicknesses from 1998 to 2008 were caused by deliver.

Researchers from Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey, found in 2014 that examinations of spoiled deliver “frequently embroil horticultural water as a wellspring of defilement.” Another investigation by FDA specialists in May noticed that salmonella in water system water “has been viewed as one of the real hotspots for new create sullying, and this has turned into a general wellbeing concern.”

In the wake of the general population objection over the spinach episode, California and Arizona providers of serving of mixed greens made their own deliberate security program in 2007. From that point forward, water testing has turned out to be ordinary in the Salinas Valley, known as the country’s “serving of mixed greens bowl” in light of the fact that around 60 percent of every single verdant green are developed there.

On one late foggy summer morning, Gary and Kara Waugaman remained in the fields of a farm close to the Salinas Valley town of Watsonville. The Waugamans are nourishment wellbeing facilitators for Lakeside Organic Gardens, a vegetable producer and shipper. Clad in neon vests and pants, they drove from field to field, analyzing soil, looking over plants and testing water.

“We got red chard, green chard, rainbow chard, green kale, red kale, lacinato and afterward collards,” Gary Waugaman stated, pointing at a great many rows of bright verdant plants.Image result for 5 People Died From Eating Lettuce, But Trumpâs FDA Still Wonât Make Farms Test Water For BacteriaGary (left) and Kara Waugaman, nourishment wellbeing organizers for Lakeside Organic Gardens, review lines of lettuce, kale and rainbow chard at Seascape Ranch close Watsonville, Calif. Serving of mixed greens are especially defenseless against pathogens since they regularly are eaten crude and can harbor microbes when torn.

Kara Waugaman ventured onto an open, concrete-lined supply. A solitary duck glided at first glance. It seemed clean, “yet you can’t tell anything by looking,” she cautioned.

In her long periods of testing water from this underground well, she never has discovered an example with fecal tainting sufficiently high to abuse industry models. Utilizing an exceptional stick, she plunged a little glass bottle into the store; it vanished with a minor glug, at that point developed loaded with clear water.

Next, the Waugamans headed to another ranch. Infant Brussels grows jabbed out of verdant plants. A ground-breaking pivoting sprinkler showered Kara Waugaman as she kept running toward it and immediately filled a little Bottle.

Kara Waugaman collects a water sample from a concrete-lined reservoir at Seascape Ranch near Watsonville, Calif. Over yea

SUSIE NEILSON FOR REVEALKara Waugaman collects a water sample from a concrete-lined reservoir at Seascape Ranch near Watsonville, Calif. Over years of testing, no sample from this reservoir has exceeded the safety standard for E. coli.

For around 10 years, the Waugamans have sent examples to a lab that tests for non specific E. coli. In the event that a specific grouping of what is known as “marker” microbes is identified, it could be an indication of more perilous pathogens like the one that sickened Whitt.

The two ranches the Waugamans visited that day take an interest in the willful California Leafy Greens Marketing Agreement. Individuals test agrarian water once per month and submit to reviews by state examiners.

Mike Villaneva, the assention’s specialized chief, said he trusts producers somewhere else before long will get ready regarding water testing.

“Our inclination is that everybody should know their water quality, and the main way you realize that is by trying,” he said.

Be that as it may, if the Yuma ranches were willfully trying their water for pathogens, how did E. coli defile the lettuce? There may never be an answer.

“Everybody is in stun in light of the fact that the (cultivators) truly felt their (willful) program would avoid only one out of every odd and every single sporadic ailment, yet a substantial flare-up this way,” Suslow said. “They’re reeling with that disappointment and attempting to make sense of what to do to keep it from occurring once more.”

He trusts this disappointment will convince them to give scientists access to water information gathered before the romaine episode and later on.

Villaneva and Gary Waugaman said the month to month testing isn’t idiot proof; it limits, yet doesn’t kill, the dangers. Additionally, pathogens from domesticated animals and different creatures can get into crops from wind, dust and different means.

The debased lettuce likely originated from numerous ranches. However, the main cultivator named up until this point, Harrison Farms, is an individual from the Arizona partnership that consented to take after the intentional wellbeing measures, including water testing.

Harrison Farms said in an explanation that it has tried its water system water on a month to month reason for as long as 10 years and that it met government norms for E. coli amid the last developing season. The homestead said its fields and water supply “experienced an intensive examination” by the FDA in May that “did not yield any huge discoveries.”

In spite of the fact that the government tenets might not have kept the Yuma flare-up, specialists say they could help keep the following one. The prerequisites would have been required across the country and connected to all deliver.

In any case, Patty Lovera of Food and Water Watch, a Washington, D.C.- based gathering that supporters for safe sustenance and water, called the Obama-time rules “unmanageable.” She said create polluted by spoiled water is unsatisfactory, yet so is closing down little homesteads that can’t manage the cost of the testing.

“It’s an awful circumstance,” she said. “The (government run) arrangement could have a great deal of setbacks. That is not satisfactory either.”

Stuart Reitz figures onion producers shouldn’t need to test water by any means.

“We haven’t seen any proof that there’s defilement of onions from any pathogenic microbes in water system water,” said Reitz, a logical counsel to the Malheur County Onion Growers Association in Oregon.

Allen, the Washington apple agriculturist, appraises that it would cost him about $5,000 for the initial two years of testing his water system water. He supposes it’s an exercise in futility and cash on the grounds that no flare-ups have been attached to the state’s apples.

“I’m not going to test,” he said. “On the off chance that they need to toss me behind bars, well at that point, OK, figure I need to go to imprison.”

FDA to producers: ‘Continue doing what you’re doing’

The FDA’s regard to cultivators was on full presentation at a February meeting, two months previously the romaine flare-up stood out as truly newsworthy.

Amid a two-day recorded workshop with cultivators and other industry authorities, Stephen Ostroff, the FDA’s agent official for nourishments and veterinary medication, told cultivators that government researchers had explored “very many deliver related flare-ups throughout the years where water ended up being the guilty party. There is no doubt that to decrease the danger of defilement of deliver by the water that is utilized on the harvests, we require water gauges.”

However, Ostroff consoled the group of onlookers individuals that the FDA needs their input to grow new “necessities that are less oppressive while ensuring general wellbeing.”

“We see returning to the water guidelines as a coordinated effort with partners, including the majority of the partners in this room,” he said.

“All choices are on the table, including reviving the control,” he let them know.

The security prerequisites would not be actualized at any point in the near future, FDA authorities told the gathering.

“As opposed to sort of racing to settle on a set choice, (we’re) simply concentrating on, you know, working with you folks until further notice,” said FDA staff individual Chelsea Davidson.

Gary Waugaman shows baby Brussels sprouts on a farm near Watsonville, Calif. The farm participates in the voluntary Calif

SUSIE NEILSON FOR REVEALGary Waugaman shows baby Brussels sprouts on a farm near Watsonville, Calif. The farm participates in the voluntary California Leafy Greens Marketing Agreement. Members test agricultural water once a month and submit to audits by state inspectors.Credit:

James Gorny, a previous industry lobbyist whom the FDA employed in February to execute create security rules, told the gathering that the organization would not solicit anything from producers then.

“The FDA has unmistakably expressed, ‘Continue doing what you’re doing.’ We’re not requesting that you do any more right now,” he said.

Gorny’s profession is a great case of the spinning entryway between government organizations and the ventures they direct.

In 2006 and 2007, Gorny was an enrolled lobbyist for the United Fresh Produce Association. At that point he worked for the FDA as a sustenance wellbeing researcher for quite a while. In 2013, he turned into a VP of another cultivators gathering, the Produce Marketing Association, which has burned through $120,000 on campaigning so far this year, as per the Center for Responsive Politics, a battle fund guard dog gathering.

Gorny’s employing by the FDA reflects an example crosswise over general wellbeing and ecological offices. The Trump organization has named dozensof previous industry authorities and lobbyists to loosen up directions intended to secure general wellbeing.

William Whitt of Idaho was hospitalized for nine days last spring after eating salads contaminated with E. coli. The outb

Whitt is suing the eatery in Nampa, Idaho, that sold him the polluted servings of mixed greens, and his annoyance flares when he discusses the FDA delay, and also every one of the producers, shippers and processors that assumed a job in the flare-up and haven’t been recognized yet.

“I think everyone is to blame,” Whitt said.

Presently his family doesn’t confide in the country’s nourishment supply.

“I’m startled to eat vegetables,” Whitt said. “I won’t eat them except if they’re cooked. We won’t eat servings of mixed greens. I for one believe it’s a broken framework at the present time.”

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The Basic Diet

Food should be as fresh as possible and organically grown, if possible.  Cook all food except raw dairy products, which are excellent foods and best eaten in the raw state.  Humans do not seem to be capable of extracting enough minerals from raw salads or raw fruits, so I would avoid them.  They are also often unclean and laden with bacteria, viruses and parasites.  They are also too yin in Chinese medical terminology.

Also, do not eat most boxed, canned, frozen or otherwise prepared foods.  However, some frozen peas, frozen green beans or perhaps other freshly frozen vegetables are not bad.  Organic blue tortilla chips are also an excellent food, containing a much needed form of selenium and other nutrients.
Most refined foods should be completely avoided.  Also avoid all wheat, all pig products such as pork, ham, bacon and lard, most or all pasteurized and homogenized cows milk dairy products, and all ‘junk’ and chemical-laden foods.  Also, reduce beef, even if it is naturally raised, as it seems to be too hybridized today.  Lamb, on the other hand, is an excellent meat once or twice weekly.

 Cooked vegetables. Meals should be a simple matter based around several cooked, but not overcooked vegetables.  Seventy to eighty percent of the diet by volume should be cooked vegetables, eaten several times daily, preferably.

Most vegetables are excellent, with the exception of the nightshade family of vegetables (tomatoes, potatoes, eggplant and all peppers).  These are generally more yin, somewhat irritating and less healthful, though they are okay once in a while.  Root vegetables are particularly good, except red beets, which contain a toxin.  Golden beets are better.  The root vegetables are more yang and very nutritious.  Preferably eat one kind of root vegetable at least every day.  Have cooked vegetables with at least two meals every day.

Meats. While vegetables may be eaten by themselves, you may add some animal quality protein such two eggs cooked soft (with the yolks runny) or some chicken, turkey, lamb or occasional beef.  Try to avoid all spicy, fancy, complex meals that use many ingredients and condiments or that are deep fried, over-cooked, raw or that contain odd mixtures of foods.  Simple is much easier for digestion.

Fish. This used to be a prime food source.  Today all of it is toxic with mercury.  Eat only small fish such as sardines, smelt, anchovies, sole and maybe one or two others.  Eat small fish only, and no more than about twice weekly.  The cold water fish, particularly sardines, are excellent sources of omega-3 fatty acids and are excellent for this reason alone.  Sardines, although canned, also are a more complete food since one eats the skin, bones and spinal cord as well.  I suggest everyone eat 3 or 4 cans of sardines every week.

Dairy. If you can, eat only raw dairy products.  These are an excellent source of calcium, omega-3 fatty acids in some cases, and other nutrients.  Pasteurized, homogenized dairy is not a good food.  Avoid all “processed cheese”, “cheese food”, chocolate milk, and other junk dairy products.  Do not cook cheeses, milk, cream and other dairy products.

Fruit. Although many doctors recommend it, I find that fruit is not a good food to eat today.  It tends to be extremely yin in Chinese medical terminology, has much less etheric energy, has too much sugar, and its mineral content is unbalanced, in my experience.  So it is best minimized.  An occasional apple or berries are okay, but not needed.  Also avoid all avocado and coconut products such as coconut oil and coconut water, as these are extremely yin tropical fruits.  It does not matter what other benefits these foods may offer.

Nuts, seeds and beans. Though nutritious, avoid eating a lot of nuts, seeds and beans.  These are all too yin, and low in etheric energy.  Nuts and seeds are difficult to digest, as well.  Some toasted almond butter is excellent, however, along with a little of other nut and seed butters if you wish, though they are not needed.
Dried beans such as lentils, pintos, kidney beans and many others are okay once or twice a week.  They are low in etheric energy and not quite as good as animal proteins such as meats, eggs and raw dairy foods.

Other.  Avoid all extreme diets such as vegetarian, raw foods, “fit for life” and others.  Also avoid all pig products such as pork, ham and bacon, as they can all harbor dangerous parasite eggs, even if well-cooked.  The exception, so far, is pancreatin from porcine sources.  Also avoid all wheat products, as wheat has been hybridized and genetically altered so much that it is no longer wholesome in any form at all, even organically grown whole wheat.  Pasta is a little better.  Most bread and pastries are horrible concoctions and best avoided as well.  If you want pasta, eat pasta made from rice, corn or quinoa.  Occasional wheat pasta is not too bad, either.

Sweets and sugars. Avoid all sugars in any form and all sweeteners, if possible.  The best sweeteners are probably stevia and xylitol unless one reacts badly to these.  For children, do not give them sweets as rewards, as this sets up an improper reward system that will trouble them their entire life.
Also, avoid juicing except for 10-12 ounces daily of carrot juice and perhaps one or two ounces of wheat grass juice as an alternative.  More juices are too yin and tend to upset the stomach.
Also avoid all fruit smoothies, protein powders and drinks, which are not good food combinations and often upset digestion.

Drinking water. The best drinking water for most people is spring water.  The second best is usually carbon-only filtered tap water.  However, avoid all fancy water filters, especially reverse osmosis and other types.  Avoid all other water and beverages except mild teas, perhaps.  This means no alkaline waters, no “drinking water” or “purified water”, no reverse osmosis water, or others.  It also means no fruit juices, punch, wine, beer or other beverages.  This is very important for proper hydration.

One cup of coffee is okay for most people, but not more, and coffee is not highly recommended as it is somewhat toxic and irritating to the digestive tract.

Do not drink much liquid with meals, but rather drink an hour after meals and up until about 15-30 minutes before each meal.  Avoid drinking a lot in the evening, as it can interfere with your sleep.
Every adult needs at least 3 quarts or 3 liters of drinking water daily, while children need somewhat less.  A good habit is to drink at least 32 ounces of water upon arising. This will start your day properly.


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The Big Sugar-Coated Deception - Sucrose Intolerance

The Big Sugar-Coated Deception

Thursday, February 1st, 2018, News
  1. Eskimos have 50 different words for snow.
  2. A tribe in Alaska has as many as 70 words for ice.
  3. Americans have 57 different words for sugar.

These facts really shouldn’t be surprising. Ice and snow are major factors in the lives of Eskimos and Alaskans. And, sadly, with the large number of Americans who are currently overweight or obese, it’s clear that sugar is a major factor in our lives.

However, there is one big difference between “snow and ice” languages and “sugar” language. Eskimos and Alaskans need all of those words in their everyday language to discuss topics like weather and safety. The rest of us do not need 57 different words for the sweet stuff. In fact, we probably only use three or four on a regular basis. So why are there so many? Because the food industry is trying to deceive you.

Ever since my son was born, I have checked nutrition labels. Truthfully, I usually only looked at the first three ingredients. Knowing that ingredients are listed from most to least, I figured that glancing at the first three told me the main ingredients in each food. If sugar was listed in the first three ingredients, I didn’t buy the product. It simply wasn’t worth the sugar spike (hyperactivity) and crash (tearful temper tantrum) that always resulted. Consequently, I thought that I was well aware of how much sugar my son was eating. Then my daughter was born, and everything changed.

My little girl has suffered from a very young age with explosive diarrhea and horrible stomach pains. After seeing several doctors, she was 3-years-old when she was finally diagnosed with Genetic Sucrase-Isomaltase Deficiency (GSID), a disease that renders the person unable to digest sugar. It is sort of similar to being lactose intolerant, but the symptoms and misery feel like they are about a thousand times worse.

Suddenly, not only could sugar not be in the top three ingredients on a label, it couldn’t be on the label at all. I assumed that raising a child without sugar would be a challenge, but I naively thought that I would be able to rely on nutrition labels and just look for the word “sugar.” I was wrong.

Food manufacturers know that listing “sugar” as one of the first ingredients makes many consumers less likely to buy their products. I was shocked to learn that to make products appear healthier, they cleverly list each type of sugar separately. For example, one “healthy” granola bar lists all of the following: sugar, brown sugar, malted barley extract, corn syrup, invert sugar, sorbitol, fructose, corn syrup solids, and molasses.

Clearly “sugar” is one of the main ingredients of this granola bar. However, by listing each sugar separately, granola, whole grain rolled wheat, and soybean oil become the three main ingredients, making this sugar bomb appear to be a healthy snack.

For the sake of my daughter, I had to learn all 57 words for sugar. A few she can eat without symptoms, but there are many others, the ones that contain sucrose, that make her very sick. Though you can look up the entire list online, here are a few tricks to help you recognize disguised sugar. By remembering these three things, you can quickly spot most of the sugars hidden in the fine print of your nutrition labels.

  1. Any ingredient that includes the words “sugar,” “malt,” or “syrup” is a sugar; for example, beet sugar, barley malt, or carob syrup.
  2. Any ingredient that ends in “ose” is a sugar; for example, fructose, glucose, or dextrose.
  3. Any ingredient that ends in “ol” should be considered a sugar; for example, sorbitol, erythritol, or xylitol.

So, if someone in your family has GSID, sometimes referred to as sucrose intolerance, or if you simply want to feed your family more nutritiously, don’t count on food industry labels to make it easy for you. Get out your reading glasses and refuse to be deceived.

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Lower Sam Merrill Trail and Castle Canyon/Middle Sam Merrill Loop

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Cobb Estate
Although the trail up Echo Mountain and further to Inspiration Point has been well described here on SP on mountain pages, in particular by Mountain Impulse (Echo Mountain, Inspiration Peak, Muir Peak), I felt the beauty and popularity of this hike deserves his own route page. This description covers the Lower Sam Merrill trail up Echo Mountain from the Cobb Estate trailhead, the Castle Canyon trail up to Inspiration Point (with a little side-kick up Inspiration Point) and back to Echo Mountain via the Middle Sam Merrill trail.
This page also intends to honor the various volunteers over the past decades, who helped to restore and maintain the trails around Echo Mountain after its glory days passed by in the late 1930’s. Without their continuous hard work and dedication countless hikers and mountain bikers alike would not be able to enjoy the beauty of this area. In this regard, Sam(uel) Merrill deserves great recognition. As a retired clerk of the Superior Court of Los Angeles and active member of the Sierra Club, Sam Merrill overhauled, maintained, and improved the trails up Echo Mountain in the 1940’s. After his death (shortly after he helped in a firefight in one of the canyons) in 1948 the trail from Altadena up Echo Mountain was named after him.

Getting There

The trailhead for that route is the Cobb Estate at the north end of Lake Avenue in Altadena. Lake Avenue is also an exit of the 210 Freeway. The Cobb Estate, once a private residence, is used as a free growth botanical garden by the United States Forest Service since 1967. You can park on Lake Avenue or Loma Alta Drive. No Adventure Pass is required here.

Route Description

Echo Mountain
The Lower Sam Merrill trail starts about a hundred yards after the front gate of the Cobb Estate at the right side of the paved roadway (~1,820 ft). After crossing a dry riverbed the well maintained trail winds up the eastern slope of the lower Las Flores Canyon. At some points it actually crosses the ridgeline to allow very nice views at the lower parts of Rubio Canyon. After 2.6 miles the trail reaches Echo Mountain (3,207 ft), the site of the once glamorous White City.

From Echo Mountain the Castle Canyon trail leads north, first slightly descending and crossing the top of Rubio Canyon. The trail then ascends constantly and gets steep at the end climbing about 800 ft. in 0.3 miles. 2 miles after Echo Mountain it eventually tops out at the Ramada at Inspiration Point (4,510 ft). This lookout was a famous site at the times of the Mount Lowe Railway and has marvelous vistas over the mountains and canyons below and on clear days all the way to the ocean. There are several options here to add a few miles and peaks. If you take the fire road at the Ramada to the right (east) for about a mile, you will get to a small trail to the right leading up to Muir Peak. From the Ramada it is a brief excurse of about 0.2 miles and less than 200 feet elevation on a firebreak to a nearby peak (4,714 feet), which on Tom Harrisons Mt. Wilson Trail Map and on other Topo maps usually is called Muir Peak. Mountain Impulse rightfully claims that this peak is Inspiration Peak instead, while Muir Peak is east/southeast of Inspiration Point. Anyhow, from this peak, you are rewarded with great 360 degree views over the San Gabriel Front Range: Mount Lowe and the ridge leading to Tom Sloane Saddle and Brown Mountain to the north and northwest; antenna-covered Mount Wilson and Mount Harvard to the northwest; Muir Peak, Echo Mountain and the cities of the Los Angeles basin to the southwest and south.

Ramada at Inspiration Point
Back at the Ramada taking the fire road to the left (west) you reach a small saddle after about 300 yards, where the Idlehour Trail to Henninger Flats and the Middle Sam Merrill Trail back to Echo Mountain originate. Further down the fire road a trail leads north up Mount Lowe. Even further you reach Mount Lowe Trail Camp, the site of the once famous Alpine Tavern of the Mount Lowe Railway era. The Middle Sam Merrill trail (sometimes referred to as Upper Sam Merrill Trail; some refer to the continuation trail up Mount Lowe as the Upper Sam Merrill trail) parallels the fire road to the west on the south slopes of the Grand Canyon and on the north side of Inspiration Peak. Overlooking the top of Millard Canyon the trail then switches south and across the ridge and the top of Las Flores Canyon back to Echo Mountain. From the start of the Middle Sam Merrill trail to Echo Mountain you cover about 2.7 miles. Another 2.5 miles down Lower Sam Merrill trail brings you back to Cobb Estate. This route described here totals about 10.5 miles with ~2,800 feet elevation. Of note is that the Middle Sam Merrill Trail is very popular with Mountain Bikers. An early start and some caution are advisable.

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No special gear is necessary. Plenty of water is always needed. A vivid imagination and historical interest make this trip very worthwhile.

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By Kay Heitsch • October 6, 2017

The phone rang, it was the school calling. "Would you please come and pick up Brandon? He seems to be sick." What could be wrong, I wondered? I drove right over to the school and picked him up. We drove home and he went upstairs to lie down. Brandon slept for a long time, but woke up very sick. It was now quite late and nothing was open; I wasn't sure what I should do. I called my husband Bill. Bill told me I should take Brandon to the Kaiser Clinic by the mall.

We had just recently moved and I wasn't familiar with the area. We hadn't even gotten our insurance cards yet. This was before we had GPS. I had a vague idea where the mall was, but I had no idea where the clinic could be. I headed for the mall. I could see Brandon was feeling worse and worse; I had to find this clinic fast. I found the mall, then started to drive down the side streets. There it was, the Kaiser sign! "Thank you Lord," I whispered.

We walked into the clinic. Since it was late, no one was in the waiting room and we were taken right back to a room. The doctor examined Brandon, then looked at me and said, "You'll need to drive Brandon to the hospital yourself. He needs surgery right away. We don't have time to wait for an ambulance."

Wait a minute, I have no idea how I even found this clinic, now I was supposed to find a hospital, at night, when I had no idea where I was going? The nurse wrote out some directions. "I have no sense of direction, so drawing me a map is useless," I franticly tried to explain to the nurse, but all she said was, "You can do it, there's no time to waste." I started off not knowing where I was going.

While Brandon was moaning and trusting me to get him to the hospital, I told him that we needed to pray. As I drove in what I thought was the right direction, but feeling lost, I prayed, "Please Lord, help us find this hospital. We need someone to show us the way."

There was no one on the streets; everything looked deserted. It appeared we were in a bad end of the city. We pulled up to a stop light on the one-way street we were on. An old beat up car pulled up next to us. The people inside of the car looked rough. I felt uneasy at first. But then I remembered that I had prayed that the Lord would send someone to help; I had to trust Him. I looked over at Brandon and said, "I'm going to roll down the window and ask these people for help." Brandon gave me a look like he seemed to think it was a good idea. I rolled down the window. "We're lost--could you please help us find the hospital?" I said half crying. "No problem, just follow us," was their reply.

I felt I had no choice but to follow them. However, as we went up and down one street after another, I started to wonder if these were the people the Lord had sent to help us. I felt we were on a wild goose chase. After what seemed to be a long time and many turns, I could see the hospital sign. I was so relieved! I kept following this old beat-up car right to the emergency room door. With a wave of their hand out the window, they were gone, back into the dead of night.

I rushed Brandon into the emergency room. After several doctors had examined him they agreed he needed surgery right away. Even though we didn't have our insurance cards yet, the bill was completely paid and Brandon came though the surgery with flying colors.

To this day, I've often wondered who those people were who came to our aid that late night years ago. To Brandon and me they were angels that the Lord sent to help us find our way.

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HydeParkHorses 13Nov 115 sAfter a successful pilot last year, the Royal Parks Foundation has teamed up once again with Operation Centaur. By providing ‘equine assisted learning’, a class of students can tackle difficult behaviour by focusing on cooperation, teamwork and inclusion. This is a really special opportunity to address bullying behaviour in the classroom and beyond.

Real Horse Power can make a huge difference to the lives of the young students taking part. It is just one of the many creative ways we inspire children to learn more about themselves by engaging directly with the natural world. Last year alone our Education Centre received more than 5,000 primary and secondary school children to discover wildlife in the heart of Hyde Park.

How can horses help prevent bullying behaviour?

Bullying tactics do not work with these impressive and powerful animals. Instead, horses respond to cooperation, negotiation and acceptance. Students have to explore the different roles each of us play in a group and how cooperation helps complete tasks. They will see how social relationships can affect the horses through practical problem solving whilst being protected by recognised ethical guidelines.

Who is it for?

Classes of up to 30 pupils from Years 7 to 9, where perhaps some challenging behaviours are evident, so they can benefit from external guidance.

Last year’s pilot programme was a success, and our analysis demonstrated that the therapeutic use of horses resulted in positive changes of participants’ attitudes and behaviour towards bullying. This year, we expect students to gain a greater awareness of how their own behaviour affects others, while having an opportunity to work together to achieve practical tasks.

Watch the video and find out all about it

Click here to watch one of ‘equine assisted learning’ in action.

Who is behind the programme?

Dr Liefooghe & Operation Centaur

Dr Liefooghe is a Chartered Psychologist, licensed by both the British Psychological Society and the Health Care Professions Council, and a Psychotherapist registered with the British Association for Counselling and Psychotherapy. He has published widely on trauma, bullying and relational approaches to human functioning. He is also a Reader at Birkbeck, University of London, and a life-long horseman.

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Tax Credit and Cash Grant Application for Life Science Companies Under Section 48D Now Available

On May 21, 2010, the Department of the Treasury released its long-awaited guidelines regarding the application process for the qualifying therapeutic discovery tax credit under Section 48 D (Notice 2010-45). The application Form 8942 and HHS Project Information Memorandum are now available and can be filed through July 21, 2010.

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The property

A cosy ground floor cottage situated in a quiet corner of Haworth, just twenty yards from the main street.

This delightful holiday home provides romantic accommodation in the heart of Bronte Country.

An unusual layout set out over the ground floor, guests are greeted by a modern kitchen/diner on entering through the front door.

This is a well-equipped space that's ideal for relaxing with a glass of wine.

An open archway takes guests through to the cosy sitting room, which is a welcome haven after a hard days walking across the local fells.

The main bedroom is spacious and stylish with a wonderful king-size bed and an attached shower room has contemporary fixtures and fittings.

The old town is steeped in history with many old buildings, nooks and crannies creating a great atmosphere of bygone days.

The Parsonage, the former home of the Bronte sisters during the 1820s is of great interest to the many visitors to the town.

With an abundance of traditional pubs, restaurants and cafes there is something for everyone in this ever popular location.

Nearby Skipton, a short drive away boasts cobbled streets, a Medieval castle, a canal basin and an award-winning high street.

Further afield are Hebden Bridge and the Victorian spa town of Harrogate, along with Grassington, Kettlewell and Malham, which are all within easy reach.

A great holiday base for a couple.

All ground floor. One king-size double bedroom. Shower room with shower, basin and WC. Kitchen with dining area and archway to sitting room.

  • Gas central heating
  • Electric hob, Combination microwave/oven, fridge, washing machine, dishwasher
  • TV with basic Sky, DVD, Bluetooth speaker, WiFi, selection of books and DVDs
  • Fuel and power inc. in rent
  • Bed linen and towels inc. in rent
  • Parking in unadopted road on a first come, first served basis, additional parking in pay and display car park nearby
  • Outdoor furniture on the lane by the front door
  • One well-behaved pet welcome
  • Sorry, strictly no smoking and no candles (LED candles only)
  • Shops and pubs less than 1 min walk
  • Note: The main bedroom has no window, light is provided through a light tube
  • Note: Although all ground floor, there are one, two, three or four steps between each room
  • Note: Guests over 18 years only
  • Note: Check-in 3pm, check-out 10am

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About the location

Skipton 13 miles; Hebden Bridge 8 miles.

The small village of Haworth was home to the famous Bronte sisters, who were inspired by the surrounding moorland to pen their novels, which have become classics of English Literature. Haworth is a village that time almost forgot, with its myriad of curiosity and antique shops, alleyways and cobbled streets creating a wonderful period atmosphere, all set against a framing backdrop of countryside famously described in the novel Wuthering Heights as wild, rugged and barren. Nearby, the famous Keighley and Worth Valley Railway, an authentic steam railway brought to prominence in the film The Railway Children, provides a lovely day out with a regular service to the old village of Oxenhope. The area abounds with popular places to visit, including the Bronte Parsonage Museum, East Riddlesden Hall, and the National Railway Museum in York. The market town of Skipton, often fondly regarded as the Gateway to the Yorkshire Dales, is just a short drive away, and also within reach are elegant Harrogate and vibrant Leeds and Manchester.

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The now BAFTA winning Dixi, a series of programmes to highlight Internet Safety Day and help to make children aware of the importance of their own safety on social media, was launched in February.

“In a first-person ‘selfie’ style of shooting, the show follows teen Shari, whose entire life is on Dixi: from chatting to friends and sharing pictures to posting funny vlogs. This social network is her life. That is, until her page is defaced, her password changed and she is locked out. To Shari, it’s the end of the world, but with the help of her closest friends she sets out to discover who hacked Dixi and ‘murdered’ her profile page.”*

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Discussion in 'Luthier's Corner' started by Sam V, Nov 14, 2002.

  1. Sam V

    Sam V Guest

    Aug 3, 2002
    Canada - Calgary AB
    just wondering how'd I'd go about the installation of Led's. I know enough about the wiring.first of all are there special Led's I should look for in terms of shape? and are perloid materials transparent enough with a light behind them? I know approximatly how to do it, you'd cut a groove down the fingerboard for the wiring.
    I'm hoping someone who's done this before can add some tips. thanks
  2. themaninthesuit

    Nov 16, 2002
    theres a company here in the UK that fit leds using some special method that doesnt compromise the strength of the neck

    alot of pros use them to fit leds (steve vai, sam rivers, hank marvin...erm and others)

    their web site is : http://www.simsled.co.uk

    hope that helps
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    Sam V Guest

    Aug 3, 2002
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    Thanks, I know about sims but I'm doing it myself. I'm building the bass, not retrofitting it so I'm gonna do it myself rather than spend 700 canadian to get lights installed. appreciated though, thanks
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    dhuffguitars Luthier/Bass Wanker depending on your opinion

    Sep 18, 2001
    the easiest way to go is with fiber optics and have the led mounted in the body. you can get real tricky and have different plug in modules for different colors. Also if a LED craps out, and it is mounted in a fingerboard you have a lot of work to do to replace it.

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    Apr 8, 2002
    is there anyway you could route the wiring through were the truss rod is? so if something crapped out it would be no more work than fixing a truss rod(which granted is a lot of work, but probably less than deconstructing a neck to fix one light.
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    Well I really like what darin said by using fiber optics. I'm not sure how I'd attach it to an LED though, as four routing with standard Leds. You just rout out a thin groove under the fingerboard(saw it on the alembic website). Also what materials would I choose to allow enough transperency yet retain a perloid look when in the off position? anyone know?

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