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ORD Bot For Small Scale Production

Postby Liberty4Ever » Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:35 am

I'm at one of those chicken and egg moments. I want to use a 3D printer for small scale production, but because it hasn't been capable of that yet I haven't experimented with 3D printing so I have less than amateur experience. I'm now wanting to run before I crawl.

I've been watching 3D printing for years, waiting for the right time to jump in. Much as I think it would have been fun to tinker with 3D printing as a hobby, I already had too many hobbies I wasn't pursuing. What's really fun for me is the engineering... that moment when hobby level concepts or laboratory science breaks out into the real world and there is a practical application.

It seems that there has been absolutely explosive growth in just the last few months. It seems that the technology started from nowhere and has been undergoing exponential growth and is now at the knee of the exponential curve and it's really taking off. There is a synergistic combination of electronics, firmware, rigid and low cost three axis frameworks, extruder design and more. For example, there is now a relatively easy to build low cost and high quality ORD Bot, and QU-BD is gearing up to make high quality low cost extruders. Slic3r and other software seems to be updated almost daily.

What I've really wanted to do is use 3D printers for short run manufacturing. I have a small internet based business that I run from my home. I have access to a friend's $30K Dimension 3D printer if I want to make the occasional prototype, and while that's nice, what works for me is having my own 3D printer so I can iterate 3-4 designs in a day. What REALLY works for me is to then gear up and start manufacturing the same products on the same machine for my short run production.

I know most people simply do not see 3D printers in this way. Even in the hobby realm where imaginative people are pushing the state of the art, there seems to be a strong bias toward personal printing - making little things for fun or to solve some little problem. 3D printing has been plagued by poor print quality and very long print times. I feel that's changing. Certainly, the print quality has improved a lot in the last year. I feel that for my market, the print quality is now acceptable to sell to people who aren't buying 3D printed parts to build a 3D printer. To achieve that print quality requires .1 mm to .2 mm layers, so the print times are necessarily long. The more rigid printers like the ORD Bot are capable of moving at higher speeds, so that helps some with the print times.

Right around this point in my mad ravings, I can imagine those who have been printing for a year or two thinking about the hours that are needed to print a part and thinking I'm nuts to be talking about production, but please keep an open mind. My production needs might be ten parts a day. Remember that I like to do the engineering to make things more practical, so I'd be doing some work to overcome the current issues that prevent people from printing parts to sell instead of CNC manufacturing or injection molding. That would be my open source contribution, since I skipped all of the hobby fun.

One obvious idea is multiple print heads. I've been kicking around the idea of a dual head 3D printer that prints two identical parts at once. The extruder stepper motors would be wired together, just as the ORD Bot's Z axis steppers are wired together and operate in locked unison. A dual extruder 3D printer could print at the same resolution but twice as fast. The bed would need to be flat and level and the nozzles would need to be at the same Z height. After seeing the new QU-BD dual extruder, I'm actually thinking of making an ORDish printer with beefier 4040 extrusions and NEMA 23 motors and have a dual extruder on the front and back of the gantry to print four identical parts at once. Yes, to answer the question already posed, I do realize that the extruder spacing determines the maximum part size. My parts are small enough that this would work well. When I design new parts, I'd probably design new carriages to mount the extruders to accommodate the parts I want to build. The 3D printer would still be available for prototype printing by using only one extruder, but would be almost completely devoted to one product or maybe two products of similar size.

Another obvious idea is fully automated operation. I don't want to unload the parts every couple of hours. My initial thought was an improved version of the MakerBot Automated Build Platform, and I did some preliminary design work to that end. Lately, I've been wondering if I can turn off the heat to the build platform to cool the complete part which should create some shear force between the part and the build platform, and then use some sort of ejector bar to slowly tip the part off the build platform and sweep it into a bin at the side of the printer. That's one of those times when some practical 3D printer experience would be very helpful. I don't have that experience yet. Feel free to chime in with comments and suggestions.

I can imagine objections based on the belief that 3D printing is still a twitchy proposition... in other words, more art than science. I know there's a lot of truth to that and a lot of real world experience to back that up, but I did mention that I'm an engineer and I love the art of engineering and using science to take the twitchy parts out of a process. Most of my career has been spent in the design of custom machinery (lots of electronics and microcontrollers, but also PLCs, servo and stepper motors and all manner of industrial machines), but I also spent some time as a manufacturing engineer where my job required a lot of reducing process variation and improving quality and yield through process improvements and better automation equipment. It seems that most 3D printer owners print one or two of something, and just as they're finished getting acceptable parts, they're finished with that part. That probably leads to the false belief that all 3D printing will be problematic and will require constant process adjustments. I think that running production would allow optimizations to the slicing algorithm, the infill, and pretty much every possible parameter. Do something a hundred times and you'll be good at it.

I may determine that I need to buy my own resin in pellet form and make my own custom filament extruder to get the consistent filament quality I need. Cutting the materials cost to 30% would be an added bonus.

I'm very interested in print quality. It's difficult to polish plastic because it tends to fuzz. I've had good success using a random orbital sander to polish flat plastic plates, particularly black Delrin, to give it a very attractive flat matte velvet finish that is very resistant to fingerprints. I'd like to experiment with various polishing methods to improve the surface finish of printed parts. I have a large rotary drum polisher that's intended to wet polish rocks with abrasive. I use it with small stainless pins and soapy water to polish brass and it does a great job. I'd like to see if I can create a simple batch polishing process that helps remove the last of the layered appearance with no manual labor on each piece.

I've heard the suggestion that I should just get a quick mold made and have an injection molder run my parts. That had been my goal for some time. When the production 3D printing bug began to bite, I forced myself to go online and get a couple of quotes, thinking that the numbers would quickly disabuse me of any crazy ideas of printing my own parts, but the opposite happened. I got an online quote from a Chinese and an American company. Basically, the Chinese company wanted $3200 for the mold and the ABS parts would be 34 cents each. The American company wanted $6400 for the mold and the parts would be $1.33 each. Protomold might have cheaper prices, but probably not too much cheaper. I'd be looking at a decent up front investment of several thousand dollars to get into injection molded parts. It was doable, but the payback would be a long time before I was in the black. For a small business, cash flow is king! I also would be stuck with the die, so there would probably not be any rolling improvements based on customer feedback or Continuous Quality Improvement. I'd also have a fairly long lead time, particularly for the Chinese parts, so my time to market would suffer, and my ability to respond quickly to changes in market demand would not be good. I believe short run 3D printing will be a transformational technology for small companies like mine. I could get my products to market very quickly, I don't need to maintain bulky and expensive inventory, I don't need to deal with the hassles of injection molding and dependence on a vendor, and I'm immediately profitable.

I'm painfully aware of my 3D printing ignorance, and I hate to speculate from a base of ignorance, much less make plans. So far, I'm thinking a lot about small production 3D printing, but my initial goal is simply to build a Hadron ORD Bot and gain some much needed experience. I've been obsessed with this notion lately, so I'm hoping that obsession will lead to a lot of experience in a short time. It also doesn't hurt that I'm not piddling with my 3D printer in my free time. This is now my job!

I'm an electrical engineer with machine design and building experience, and I have a milling machine and lathe in my basement. The question is, can I make a significant contribution to getting 3D printing out of the hobby market and into the small business world? I'm particularly interested in the idea that parts can be printed that can't be made any other way. The infill can be optimized to add strength or rigidity in the direction it's needed, and not have excess material where strength isn't needed. This not only saves the cost of the material, it also saves weight. 3D printed parts can also be printed that have great complexity, about as easily as printing a solid cube of the same mass. I can design complicated parts that wouldn't be cost effective if they were machined or molded.

Anyway, I've been hinting at my short run continuous production plans in several other threads, and it's inevitable that people would have comments about this concept. I didn't want to hijack those other threads, so I thought anyone who might want to speculate along these lines with me and discuss this topic could do so here.

What do you guys think? Interesting idea? Plausible after some work to adopt 3D printing to the low end of the manufacturing market? Has my cheese slipped off its cracker? Am I smoking crack here?
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Re: ORD Bot For Small Scale Production

Postby orcinus » Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:18 pm

For what you're planning to do... maybe a construction more similar to the Makerbot would make more sense?
Imagine a 4 (2x2 matrix) extruder stationary "head", with a fully X-Y-Z mobile platform :)

You could place the extruders wider apart (no space limitations / worries about the rigidity of the gantry, the only limiting factor is the surface area of the platform). Plus, in this case, having a stationary head and mobile platform makes more sense, since the mass of the head will be much higher.

OTOH, your speed would probably have to be a slight bit more limited.
OTOOH, you'd be printing 4 copies at the same time, so who cares :)

Of course, you'd need to have a much beefier power supply and MOSFETs (RAMPS wouldn't do, without modifications), plus you'd probably have to use at least 2 drivers for the extruders, with their inputs hooked up in parallel.
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Re: ORD Bot For Small Scale Production

Postby Liberty4Ever » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:53 pm

Keeping the heavier quad print head stationary does have merit, but I'm still liking an ORD Bot design for the simplicity and rigidity. I could beef up the frame and motors a bit to compensate for the heavier quad head. Alignment issues are going to be difficult on a quad head unit, regardless.

The newer extruders are a lot lighter, so that will help.

Another option to lighten the gantry mounted extruder carriage is to use a Brut style extruder that's mounted off the moving gantry carriage so the only mass is the hot end. I'd be inclined to worry about not being able to accurately control the extrusion if the extruder is mounted so far from the hot end, but the Ultimaker has very good print quality and speed.

I may need to upgrade the stepper drivers to supply four extruder steppers at once, but I was thinking of trying to wire two pairs of the extruder stepper motors in series, and then wire those motor pairs in parallel. Extruder motors may only be 1A motors and that might be a marginally feasible strategy with enough active cooling to the Pololu driver. Probably a better option would be to pull the Pololu driver off, mount it where it can have a good heat sink, power the motor side of the circuit from 24V instead of 12V, and wire all four extruder stepper motors in series.

I had another thought this morning. Scale up an ORD Bot and use the reels of gray PVC pipe that are towed on a trailer as the filament. The ORD Bot itself could be assembled on site from assemblies that fit on a flat bed truck. Plastic statues while you wait! Don't worry, I'm just kidding. I hardly ever try anything that crazy any more. :lol:
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Re: ORD Bot For Small Scale Production

Postby dzach » Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:06 pm

Maybe this 1X2 printer is of interest, have a look at the Conveyor Belt section.
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Re: ORD Bot For Small Scale Production

Postby Pseudologer » Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:11 am

Hey Liberty4Ever,
This thread interests me greatly as I've been considering similar usage scenarios. It started as a conversation with a friend about how I'm getting into 3d printing and using PLA for lost-wax casting of aluminium and his first thought was 'make band merch!'. I'm not fussed about turning it into a business as such but more a way to subsidise my hobbies (ie, it doesn't have to be terribly profitable, just enough to cover the costs and time). Long story short I've a bunch of friends that want things made in productions of 30 or so and ways to parallel print etc would make that much easier.
I'm still trying to buy an ORD bot and with Inventables basically making that difficult so far I've been looking into buying all the parts myself; If you come up with a beefed up design that works well then I'll probably build that instead.
As for making a tougher system, would this be suitable?
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ope ... m?ref=live
It's a makerslide-inspired system designed to be capable of being heavier duty.
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Re: ORD Bot For Small Scale Production

Postby Liberty4Ever » Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:23 am

Pseudologer wrote:Long story short I've a bunch of friends that want things made in productions of 30 or so and ways to parallel print etc would make that much easier.

Since kicking in for two of the dual extruders from QU-BD, I'm kinda obsessed lately with a quad printing ORD Bot, with each print head the master of its own 4"X4" build area domain. I'm still thinking about how to wire them so I can easily flip a switch and select one to four extruders, so I can print 1, 2, 3 or 4 objects at once. If I select 1, it should have access to the entire 8"X8" build area. If I select 2, each should have access to a 4"X8" build area. With the off-center extruders, that would require another 4" of travel in the X and Y directions, and the build platform would be off center in the framework.

I'll almost certainly end up with at least two ORD Bots anyway, so I'll probably keep my original as the prototype and low yield production printer, and just dedicate another Hadron to a quad 4X4 production printer. As inexpensive and flexible as ORD Bots are (compared to other plastics manufacturing methods) I could build custom ORD Bots tailored to the products I want to manufacture.

Pseudologer wrote:I'm still trying to buy an ORD bot and with Inventables basically making that difficult so far I've been looking into buying all the parts myself; If you come up with a beefed up design that works well then I'll probably build that instead.

I can sympathize, having just finished my Hadron scavenger hunt, with much time spent searching and begging for scraps and leftovers, and paying a lot of extra shipping costs because I had a lot of smaller orders. Such is the danger of living on the bleeding edge. Things are moving fast in the 3D printing world, and that's why I think it's a good time to jump into the small scale manufacturing aspect of 3D printing. It's almost ready for prime time, IMO, and maybe I can help it along in that direction while my little internet based business benefits from the advantages of being among the first to make use of this new manufacturing technology.

Inventables has their hands full trying to keep up with demand for ORD Bots. If they could stock them, they would sell a lot of them. I think their recent pre-order offering wasn't fully funded, not because of any technical flaws in the ORD Bot or any lack of interest by the market. On the contrary, I think most of the market didn't jump on that deal BECAUSE of their immediate desire to have an ORD Bot. I know that's why I didn't sign up. I didn't want to wait to see if it was funded, and then wait another 45 to 60 days after that. I decided I'd beg, borrow or steal the MakerSlide, and make any other parts I couldn't get. Even if I couldn't get MakerSlide, I was going to design something that was very ORDish based on regular old Misumi extruded aluminum. Inventables has been running ragged on Shapeokos as well as MakerSlide and ORD Bots. I think they'll get on top of this soon and we'll be able to buy improved Hadron kits (no Z axis wobble?) with short lead times.

Pseudologer wrote:As for making a tougher system, would this be suitable?
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ope ... m?ref=live
It's a makerslide-inspired system designed to be capable of being heavier duty.

Personally, I like MakerSlide better. OpenRail seems to add the inaccuracies (non-straightness) of extruded structural framework with the inaccuracies of trying to extrude straight rail, with the inconvenience and inaccuracy of lots of T nuts and manual assembly. The hard coat anodize is nice. Being able to use different sizes of extrusion is nice.

If I wanted to improve on MakerSlide, I'd extrude the rail sections larger and then machine them on custom equipment more accurately than they could be extruded, and then hard coat it. Of course, the cost would go way up. Or, I'd come up with some clever way to make machined stainless rail as inexpensively as possible that's ready to be bolted to Misumi aluminum extrusion, although the people making round rail and circulating ball carriages are doing a pretty good job of getting the quality up and the cost down.

Actually, MakerSlide would be ideal for most of my uses if it was kept as straight as an extruder can make it, it was hard anodized, and (this is the kicker) it was readily available all the time, cut to length, shipped the same day, with a large variety of plates, V wheels, bearings and eccentric mounting hardware. I think the biggest single issue keeping more people from using MakerSlide is... they can't get MakerSlide. Inventables is definitely working on it, but if their value is being a stocking distributor, they need to be a stocking distributor and stop having these pre-order lotteries. Kickstarter is great for unfunded inventors and entrepreneurs with a great idea to get funding from the community and gauge interest before investing a lot of money, but it's a lousy ongoing business model IMO.

Once MakerSlide takes off, offering versions in 40X40, 20X60, 20X80 and even 40X80 seems like a natural next step in the development. There are tons of applications where MakerSlide is accurate enough and the cost needs to be lower than THK and others can manage. Heck, the ease of design and assembly are huge benefits to MakerSlide as well. Kudos to Bart! And good luck to Inventables!
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... looked like it might be on the bready side, but the thick slices of Acme pain de mie were filled with a generous wad of some of the best tuna salad ever. This fish spread was scaled up with celery, red onion, olives, capers and lemon zest with a slice of melted white cheddar. A sea of shoestrings tied up this marine alba-corps operation.

We’ve had many hits and a few misses over our many Fish. expeditions, but their high quality brain food keeps us throwing ourselves back towards these rocks.

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  Friday, September 26, 2008

The rabbity representative at Crixa Cakes got us hopping into this Hungarian hutch of buttery baking.

Chubby was hungarian for a fig and walnut bar ($2.80):

This nutty newton did not subscribe as heavily to the law of gravity as its appearance let us to anticipate. A jacket of tender, flakey pastry filled with a softly spiced, nut infiltrated, Mission fig filling caused this object to stay in uniform motion with the aid of applied force and coffee.

My piroshki ($3.25):

...was filled with mashed potato in its buttery flakey flour fleece. This Rorschach-inspired, tater-knot was a twice baked spud done right.

Our pastries helped turnover our initial woes of pie not being available until 11:30. I guess there isn't enough of a demand for pie breakfasts in Berkeley.

Crixa Cakes
2748 Adeline St.
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In today's Bunrab email, Mike writes:

Was that Balboa burger really a burger? It looks like an excellent prepared steak sandwich (almost said well done).

Gutenberg replies:

Dear Mike,

It does look a lot like a steak in the photo (but it was absolutely a burger), perhaps the grind of the glass of my camera lens and the grind of the ground beef cancelled each other out.

  Thursday, September 25, 2008

The waiter at Mill Valley's Balboa Cafe warned us that this was their second day of serving lunch and that our patience would be appreciated. He was right, there were several glitches, but all of them seemed to be learning curve related and no big deal.

The Balboa burger ($11.50):

... has shrunk since our last one in SF (no doubt due to rising food costs) and though it's tomato season, Plumpjackians continue to forgo the red fruit on this baguette bordered beef burger with pickled onions and lettuce. Next time I'll ask if I can order a side of tomato since they appear in the salad portion of the menu.

The fries were good, but their waffle cut potato chips that came with the pork sandwich ($10.00):

... were far more spud-tacular with their excess of surface area crispened in the frying process. A soft egg enriched bun cushioned shredded pork in this sweet-sauced swine sando.

They will be serving from their lunch menu for daytime dining this weekend, but will shift to the brunch menu beginning on October 4th.

The cuisine may not be a brave departure from their San Francisco mothership, but BCMV will keep locals milling around their full bar and munching on their Marin-compatible chow.

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Mill Valley, CA

  Wednesday, September 24, 2008

We were full of Falafel ($5.95):

... from the Falafel Hut when we discovered that today was the first day of lunch service at Balboa Café Mill Valley.

The Mill Valley menu is the same as the SF Balboa café except for the omissions of the seared ahi salad, smoked salmon and "bar burger" (which is served on a round bun in SF) but Mill Valleyians get a French dip sandwich and roasted salmon added to their options and of course, they have their famed Balboa burger on the menu.

They serve dinner daily and plan to serve brunch soon.

We'll have to come back when we aren't so fala-full.

Balboa Café Mill Valley
38 Miller Ave.
Mill Valley, CA

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I am looking at a 1981 MCI 9 that was manufactured by Pawnee Coach of Pawnee, Oklahoma. Does anyone have any information on this coach builder and their history.

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I know he was in Liberty Tx before moving to OK I forget his name but dig around on the BNO you should find a little history we stopped in his shop in Liberty I think in 1999 or 2000 his work looked ok to me

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Valuation expert Professor Aswath Damodaran analyzes the Facebook-WhatsApp deal in his latest post.

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My experience with markets has been that no one has a monopoly on virtue and good sense and that the hubris that leads to absolute conviction is an invitation for a market take-down. To investors [who] view deals like the Whatsapp acquisition as evidence of irrational exuberance, remember that there are traders who are laughing their way to the bank, with the profits that they have collected from their social media investments. Similarly, for traders who view fundamentals and valuation as games played by eggheads and academics, recognize that mood and momentum may be the dominant factors driving social media companies right now, but markets are fickle and fundamentals will matter (sooner or later).

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Reggie Paramoure, who played with Belcher at Maine, mentioned how poorly the Chiefs were playing and asked him how things were going. Belcher responded "baby momma crazy," and joked that he would use his eight guns to defend his three-month old daughter from boyfriends.

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The least affordable cities included New York, San Diego, San Francisco, Los Angeles and Miami – the combined populations of which add up to approximately 14.5 million people.

“Despite all of the talk about how homes are more affordable than they have been in decades,” says managing editor of Interest.com, Mike Sante, in the report, “buying a home is still a big challenge for many American households.”

Home affordability – a major concern before the housing crash – has received little attention in the current market. But with stagnant wages and rising expenses, many Americans are finding even lower-housing prices unaffordable.

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In San Francisco, the average price of a home is the highest in the country at $552,600 – difficult to afford for even those who earn above the median wage of $71,975. And in New York, also known for higher home prices, taxes are more than three times the national average.

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On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of,
every human being who ever was, lived out their lives.
Thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines,
every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every hero and coward,
every creator and destroyer of civilization,
every saint and sinner in the history of our species,
think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that,
in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot.
Our posturings, our imagined self-importance,
the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe,
are challenged by this point of pale light,
and underscores our responsibility and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot."
-- Carl Sagan, Pale Blue Dot, 1994

Think about that exert and think about everything you have, know and are. As much as it may depress you to believe - you are a tiny fraction of a speck of dust on the universe. Everything you have done or will do will leave hardly any mark on the history of the universe. People have religions and beliefs to comfort them and help provide a sense of meaning. I don't mean to speak religiously; I'm a Christian(granted I have my own interpretations of the religion..)

What I made this blog post for was to try and see what other people think the purpose to life is.
Many people will live their life to be respectable and upstanding individuals. Most hoping that their "good" behavior will be rewarded after death. However, what exactly is triggered in our minds to separate good from wrong? Simply how we as man developed?

Anyway, I know I jumped around topics a bit, but I hope you followed along. Either way, feel free to leave a comment, thought or even your own beliefs.
This was not intended to spark any conflicts or arguments. Your comment will be immediately removed and you will be slapped with a month ban from this blog. A persons' beliefs and views can be a very touchy subject, so please bare with me and respect others.

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From my perspective, there is no purpose.
After reading this, I kinda have to smirk. :p Heya, Kumo.

As far as ones 'Purpose of Life', my actual opinion on it is that life is what it is--The purpose belonging to the very person living it. For instance. My purpose in life, which is by right my own opinion, and not one upheld by religion (I am not atheistic, but do not 'Officially' practice any currently given religions), is that I'm meant to help others in any way I can--I enjoy what I do.

Purposes can vary from being the next guy or gal to invent 'That Thing', being the local superhero as an officer or even fireman, to just selling ice cream down the block.

While it may seem insignificant, each person has been granted a life to live in one way or another, and respectively, can be happy or unhappy with it.

At this point I don't know what is or isn't true, but I'll observe it from where I am, smile, and trudge on. After all, I'll find out one day--Even if I am being bitch-slapped for it. xD;

With Smirks,
See, I'm one of those short people with an amazingly HUGE ego :P, In my eyes I'm not a speck, more like the one thing the creator (If there is one but Ima just guess there is) wish he could have made earlier.
Necessity and instinct dictates some cultural morals while others are arbitrary. As for morals defined by religion, those are typically arbitrary and easily ignored or changed over time because they are so (e.g. "The Seven Deadly Sins" in Christianity). If you ever take an ethics class you'll probably hear this: "Is something right because God declares it to be so, or does God will it because it is right?"

In the first case, where God declares something to be right, everything is arbitrary and has no real meaning. God could declare lying to be moral and that's what you would do.

The second case represents that God is not omnipotent. This is because God wills it because it is inherently right or wrong, not because he declared it to be so. In this case God has no control over the rightness or wrongness of actions, he is simply a messenger of what is right or wrong.

This is why you should never, ever use religion as an argument in an ethics paper.
Our purpose is to simply live. We live long with those we love and hate, as we overcome whatever obstacles that are thrown at us. The Earth may or may not last until the Sun becomes a red giant, we may wipe ourselves out long before then. If we truly believe in justice, then we truly believe in a Heaven and a Hell. Every action has an echo, affecting something in one way or another. Life is a complex thing so many people take for granted. Live my friends, live long and fulfill your destinies.
The purpose of life is to find the purpose of life.
I think as humans, we automatically seek to fulfill our personal, selfish desires. We're born into this world ignorant and full of folly. That is why we need parents and rules. We don't know what is right and wrong or what is good for us and what isn't. If we don't have any direction, we'll make one mistake after another.

With that said, I think that the best way to determine what is right and wrong is to take a look at what undisciplined teenagers do. They kill, steal, lie, use drugs, get drunk, fornicate, etc. They do all this because it feels good to do wrong by nature as I said. It feels a lot better to go out and smoke weed and bang a sexy girl rather than to stay home doing the dishes and finishing up some homework.

But look at the consequences. You can get caught with weed and get put in jail. Getting put in jail several times doesn't look good to employers which hinders your chances of getting a job. Having sex with a girl can spread infections and can also cause her to get pregnant.

This is how you know something is wrong. There will always be consequences, but doing it will always feel better than doing what is right especially if you can get away with it.

And coincidentally, all these things I listed are also listed in the bible as "sins".
It's whatever you want it to be. To be anything else would seem to imply a greater universal plan, or grand designer. As the universe is objectively speaking pointless (it serves no objective purpose [after all, who decided that purpose, the universe itself, a god?], it simply exists), it makes no demands on you or imposes purpose on you, as it doesn't have a goal to fulfill.

If our actions are on no consequence to the universe, then whatever I do is universally okay (not good, or bad). I could in fact end the universe by some means, and the only consequence is the universe is no longer there. No objective goal or rule was broken by that action, so I did not violate some constant, objective purpose.

There are two interesting personal and subjective consequences of this: Either anything you do is pointless, so why do anything? Or anything you do is pointless, so you're free to do whatever you want!

As we can personally subject ourselves to rules (and it seems we need to often to rationalise things), pick one of those outcomes that works for you, or maybe even make your own. The fact this question gathers "opinions" and not "facts" shows it doesn't matter who is correct, it just matters if you are happy with your answer.
Meaningless existence
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There are two interesting personal and subjective consequences of this: Either anything you do is pointless, so why do anything? Or anything you do is pointless, so you're free to do whatever you want!

I didnt know you nubs knew this stuff, you like barely scratched the surface. Nubs
There are no black philosophers.

Except Hulio-G.
The purpose of life is whatever purpose you decide for yourself.

Ethics is the set of behaviours that best allow society and individuals in society to function. The practice of ethics by humans is a result of evolution.

Sagan's point isn't just about the smallness of it all - it's also about the bigness. The world is so much huger than we notice, and there's always something to see.

And as Stephen has noticed, the absence of real consequences on a geological scale for our individual actions can be freeing. No matter how badly I fuck up, in a million years, nobody will know.
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You.. Touched.. My heart..

It's all true though. Who knows, we're all here and let's make the best of it.

I a person who has wanted to change the world with my music or art skills and who has a sister who has a group of people trying to help darfur,who may also go to a 3rd world country too one day (my sister not I); I freely know that everyone here is just a dot. Even if how I see things we are just slowly killing the things on earth (or even things past the earth), just for greed and for whatever the hell we want. We even kill other humans, feelings and body.
I also being Christian (roman catholic) I do believe there is a God.
Now I think the purpose of life is that it is very unknowen and that anyone could be right. I believing in god think that in the afterlife I will go to heaven or hell. HOWEVER it's hard to know what you should do if you want to be "reward". I have seen people only do good because they say "God will reward me". As much as I do believe in god I always find that reason to be bullshit and think if you want to do good then do it not because you will be "reward" but because you want to do it. After all how do we know if a gate will be waiting for us if we did die.
But also in todays world more people have been moving away from god and saying he is fake. So not everyone will like what I said about the afterlife. Now there just might be more then one purpose. That everything we do is a chain (no shit). That we are all linked, if you have noticed humans are made of greed. If you see what the greed is doing to the world it is killing it. But sadly humans are just made of sin. The point is that every human, everything in the world, in the universe is linked. A death, or even a step can do anything. I do think we should make the best of life but we also should take care of it too.
I'm always thinking that if the Rev didn't die would I still have the goal of a drummer? (would the goal be as big as it is today or would it be small?) If I didn't brake up with someone or if they didn't brake up with me, would it be the same?
Life is deep and the meaning can be anything.
To make what I just said short i'm up for any meaning out there, any purpose really. Things change meaning the purpose could have changed too or there could be more then one purpose.
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Just out of curiosity, after you had any of your children & the Nurse brought them into your Hospital room for the first time, would you recognize if they brought you the wrong baby?

I would know if it was not my baby immediately!

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  • The hospitals take a ton of precautions. Bracelets with matching ID numbers, those little alarm thingies that go off when the baby gets too far away--and yes, I set the damn thing off and scared the heck out of everybody because I didn't know I couldn't go as far as this cozy little sitting room down the hall. Obviously, I didn't see my baby when she was born, but her dad did. She wasn't in the nursery much anyway. I would hope I'd have known if there was a problem, but apparently it happens sometimes. Maybe by scent even? My daughter left a shirt at her nanna's house, and it wasn't found for months. When it was found, I knew right away before I even touched it that it was hers, just by her own unique smell, which everyone has.

    Answer by Ballad at 2:10 PM on Feb. 21, 2013

  • Without a doubt. My DD was born with her daddy's nose and my DS has a birthmark on his shoulder. Even without those i would be able to tell.

    Answer by LostSoul88 at 12:21 PM on Feb. 21, 2013

  • I would have known because my youngest son was ten pounds five ounces he was the biggest born that day. My oldest was the only boy born that day the other fifteen were girls.

    Answer by pinkdragon36 at 2:11 PM on Feb. 21, 2013

  • Yes, I would recognize their cry when I heard the nurse bringing them to the hospital to nurse. My dh was always surprised that I knew whether they were bringing ours or not.

    Answer by missanc at 2:32 PM on Feb. 21, 2013

  • I think/hope so lol. My son NEVER left my side though. I didn't feel the need to have him in the nursery at any point.

    Answer by maecntpntz219 at 12:26 PM on Feb. 21, 2013

  • i would know without a doubt. my kids had a ton of hair! my husbands ears and my eyes. not to mention from the minute they were born they never left my side. except our first born who left for just a little bit. i could imagine it happening to moms who are really drugged and out of it. my cousin barely remembers her labor because of all the meds she was on ( preterm labor and gallbladder issues etc) if it werent for the family she had in there i could imagine her not really knowing.

    Answer by nnh_mama at 12:28 PM on Feb. 21, 2013

  • I know is mine because my husband didnt separate from him for one minute. He was with one of us all the time.

    Answer by Alisim at 12:28 PM on Feb. 21, 2013

  • yes, my first one came out with this little (what I thought at the time) mole on his hand, It turned into some kind of scab that fell off after a week. My second had three milk bumps that made a perfect triangle next to his left eye that eventually went away. So those were how I would know. My children only left my room to be circumsized, everything else they stayed in my room.

    Answer by cassie_kellison at 12:32 PM on Feb. 21, 2013

  • I would hope that I would but really who knows especially on the first.

    Answer by Dardenella at 1:01 PM on Feb. 21, 2013

  • I would know cause my son at birth and still now looks exactly like my Mother.

    Answer by virginiamama71 at 1:28 PM on Feb. 21, 2013

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