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Under the Sea

That's where painter Dan Famiglietti finds his inspiration

Blue, green and yellow mahi mahi swim
 past coral on the ocean floor while a school of bright, multicolored tuna get lost in blue surf. A trio of barracudas is on the hunt as a host of blue crab scurries against the red tide. These are just a few of the images in Dan Famiglietti's world.

A St. Augustine resident who graduated from Flagler College in 2000 with a B.A. in graphic design and a minor in fine arts, Famiglietti is showing his ocean-inspired work in a solo exhibit, "Water Lines," as
part of St. Johns County's "Art in Public Places" series.

"The environment and images — locally — are inspiring and great subjects to paint," Famiglietti said. "I love the ocean and things around it, so it's an easy fit. Plus, I think the ocean has endless options to paint, and I can use pretty much any color combination."

Originally from Bucks County, Pa., just north of Philadelphia, Famiglietti, 36, moved to St. Augustine in 1997. He's been creating art in the area for more than 16 years and
has shown at exhibits at the St. Augustine Art Association, Isle of Eight Flags Shrimp & Art Festival in Fernandina Beach and Long Island Fine Arts Festival.

During the day, Famiglietti is the owner of Anchor Tile & Design, a custom tile and stone-setting company specializing in bathrooms, kitchens and flooring. Creating mosaic tile and stonework for his clients
not only pays the bills, it's another avenue for Famiglietti's creative side.

With a steady 9-to-5 job and a growing family, Famiglietti still finds time to produce art. His medium of choice is acrylic paint
on canvas.

"My process is, I sketch pieces and put them together," he said. "I spend a good amount of time concepting and doing layout. I paint at night and on the weekends. Saturday mornings are my favorite."

Famiglietti's current show at Rotunda Gallery is energized by local coastal waters chock full of fish, turtles, alligators, waves
and birds.

"I usually find inspiration from the
ocean and its surroundings," he said. "Also through travels."

A trio of sea turtles dance among the waves, a multihued bass breaks the waterline, psychedelic colors swirl around gigantic orange-and-red koi — more images from the upbeat, optimistic world of Famiglietti's art.

"I paint all the time, but definitely get in modes where that's my focus and all energy goes there," he said. "My approach is not traditional. I simply just don't sit down and paint. There is a plan and a process. Then, it's all about staying up late and getting it done. Canvas, wood and a lot of ‘oops' paint from Home Depot."

Famiglietti's show is the newest "Art in Public Places" exhibit presented by the
Cultural Council, St. Johns County's designated arts agency.

"Philip McDaniel and Terry Drozd are the people who helped make this opportunity happen," the artist said.

"I'm thankful for them helping me open the door."

"Water Lines" features various pieces from Famiglietti's oeuvre. These works range from $950 to more than $9,500, and a few of the pieces on display have already been sold.

"People tell me my art makes them
happy," he said. "I think that is pretty rad.
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baked pasta with spaghetti squash

BAKED ZITI. I USED TO BABYSIT TWINS IN NEW YORK who ate two things for dinner: baked ziti and chicken nuggets, end of list. So I know kids love the stuff. The only thing is, plain pasta not that great for you.

So I tried something.

We combined spaghetti squash with whole wheat penne pasta, then threw in the usual suspects. It was healthy, gooey and I’ll tell you what, delicious.

Here’s how you can make it too. And if you haven’t cooked with spaghetti squash a lot, The Kitchn has a great 101 on the good stuff here.

baked pasta with spaghetti squash
  • 2 cups spaghetti squash pulp (about ½ of a large squash); see instructions below
  • ½ box whole wheat penne
  • 2 tablespoons salt
  • 3 cups spaghetti sauce, or 1 jar of your favorite kind
  • 1 teaspoon dried basil or 2 teaspoons fresh, chopped
  • 1 /2 teaspoon dried oregano
  • ½ cup shredded mozzarella cheese
  • 1 cup ricotta cheese
  • ½ cup parmesan cheese
  • 2 tablespoons extra virgin olive oil
  • salt & pepper
  1. Prepare the spaghetti squash: Heat oven to 400 degrees F. Cut the squash in half, lengthwise (from the longest end to end). Use a sturdy spoon to scoop out the seeds. Place squash halves cut side down on a baking sheet and add about ¼ cup water. Cook 30-45 minutes, depending on the size of your squash. Let cool enough to handle and use a fork to fluff out the squash.
  2. Meanwhile, cook the pasta. Add half a box of penne to a large pot of boiling water, add salt and cook for 5 minutes. Drain. Return pasta to pot then add spaghetti sauce, squash, herbs and mozzarella then stir.
  3. Now, assemble and bake. Lower the oven to 350. Butter a large casserole pan. Add pasta and sauce mixture, then drop in ricotta by the large spoonful, distributing throughout the pan. Sprinkle parmesan cheese on top and drizzle oil over it. Sprinkle with salt and pepper and bake for 35 minutes until gold and bubbly.
  4. Allow to sit for 10 minutes before serving. The pasta will cool and firm up a bit too.

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  1. Sarah says

    Could you add a green veggie to this like zucchini or spinach to make it a one pot meal? Or would you suggest serving the green vegetable separately?

    • charityc says

      Yes, absolutely Sarah! You could put any veggies in there to make a one-pot meal. Even though this is a baked pasta dish with red sauce, this is related: I often use carrots in mac & cheese or cauliflower and there’s an upcoming mac & cheese recipe with broccoli and spinach added too. I LOVE throwing veggies into anything I can, so by all means, add it. One thing, the veggies will add a lot of moisture, especially zucchini and spinach so you may need to adjust your cooking time to absorb the water. Or you could wring out the veggies ahead of time (use a plain paper towel or a thin, clean kitchen towel), fill it up with the zucchini or spinach and twist over the sink until the water starts to drip out. (It’ll be green!) Thanks for the idea and please let us know how it turns out.

      • Sarah says

        Thank you for the reply! I made this last night with 1/2 a bag of frozen spinach, defrosted under hot water and then wrung out as you suggested with a paper towel. It turned out wonderfully and my 18 month loved it, as did my husband and I :) The spaghetti squash was a great combo with the pasta!

  2. Allison Snyder says

    This is a completely delicious recipe – so simple and such a great way to use spaghetti squash, which my hubby and I have always found to be an intriguing vegetable but how to use it in a cool, yummy way? It’s actually pretty blah on its own.This recipe is the answer to our question. I will try it next time adding the green veggies as suggested above. My fave part of this recipe, besides the addition of the squash, is the olive oil drizzle over the top with the salt and pepper and parmesan cheese. Slightly crunchy and beautifully browned up…So simple but SO GOOD!….Highly recommend this recipe and can’t wait to try others on the site.

    • charityc says

      Ah, thanks so much, Allison! We liked that one too. My mother-in-law and sister-in-law have become spaghetti squash converts as well! Here’s to more tasty dishes all summer long…

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Thursday August 2 2012
Conte's stand

It’s not about Juventus or Antonio Conte, as Susy Campanale warns the sporting justice system in Italy is deeply flawed.

Antonio Conte was talked into accepting a plea bargain by his lawyers, one that made it very clear this was not an admission of guilt when charged with failing to alert authorities to an attempted sporting fraud. When that was rejected by the Disciplinary Commission, the Coach decided to take a stand. He and Juventus are embarking on a battle that could change the sporting justice system in Italy forever – and it’s about time too.

Let me be clear, lest many stop reading this blog already and accuse me of white-washing history: I am not a Juventus supporter and I am most certainly not accusing the FIGC of creating some anti-Bianconeri conspiracy stretching back to Calciopoli. That would be daft. What I am saying is that Conte’s situation is a perfect example of why the current system does not work. It could easily be argued it is also a sign of a wider problem within the Italian civil justice system, but that is for another day.

The evidence against Conte is simple – former Siena player Filippo Carobbio claims the Coach said in a team meeting that results were ‘secured’ against Albinoleffe and Novara during the 2010-11 Serie B campaign. That is the entirety of the evidence. One man’s word. This man who had already been caught in contact with betting syndicates and confessed with the promise of bringing bigger names to the prosecutor in exchange for a large discount on his own punishment.

This issue of the ‘pentiti’ – penitents – has been a problem throughout the civil justice system for several decades, most notably in the 1980s and 90s when high-profile showbiz celebrities were dragged through the mud simply because they were named by Mafia underlings who wanted a discount on their sentences. After lengthy trials and even spells in prison, those innocent figures were cleared of all wrong-doing.

Juventus launched a scathing attack on the system, suggesting it protected confessed criminals more than those who profess their innocence. That is without a shadow of a doubt true. The Italian approach to justice seems to consider you guilty until you can prove your innocence, which is somewhat difficult when it’s one man’s word against another.

Except in Conte’s case, it is one man’s word against 24 others. The other players who were in that Siena team meeting all testified that the Coach never mentioned or alluded to ‘fixed’ results. Their testimony has been discarded by the prosecutor. As Conte is charged with failing to alert authorities to something untoward, then either he is innocent or the other 23 players are lying and should also be charged. The fact those ex-Siena men have not been charged just makes the whole thing look completely meaningless.

The prosecutor in his own way already showed he doubts Carobbio’s testimony. After all, Carobbio originally accused Conte of something that would amount to sporting fraud, but the prosecutor realised it wouldn’t stick and opted for the less serious ‘failing to alert authorities.’ This way, the prosecutor has cherry-picked which parts of Carobbio’s story to believe. Why? Either he is a credible witness or he isn’t, you can’t rest an entire case on half-believing a testimony. The more you look at what evidence Conte has against him, the more you can see why he is so angry.

I welcome Conte and Juventus standing up to the prosecutor and the Disciplinary Commission, demanding to see them make a case out of this pitiful evidence. Maybe it will have repercussions throughout this and future sporting trials that risk ruining careers without genuine proof. It might also discourage the dawn raids on people’s houses and training grounds when they have repeatedly offered to testify and been ignored.

Some of you will say, but Conte accepted a plea bargain, so isn’t that an admission of guilt? Not in Italy it isn’t. The justice system is insanely long – so that we are still seeing rulings made on Calciopoli six years later in numerous courts of appeal. It has become a tacit agreement that it suits all parties to just work out a plea bargain and get it over with, saving everyone time and money. This is especially true in the civil courts, where the vast majority of people handed prison sentences don’t ever sit behind bars. Again, this was thanks to a law passed because there was not enough space in the jails. As I said, it is a very strange system in Italy.

Many Juventini, including President Andrea Agnelli, will take this as an opportunity to get payback for Calciopoli. With hindsight and the benefit of wiretapped Inter phone calls that were somehow completely ignored at the time of the trial, Juve could’ve fought those charges a lot harder. It’s not so much that they were innocent – they weren’t – but rather that Luciano Moggi had a point when he said everyone was doing it. The wiretaps showed less of a Juve-led cabal and more of a general moaning towards the referees from all quarters.

In any case, including Calciopoli in this legal battle risks muddying the waters. Conte’s situation is entirely separate and must be treated as such, otherwise people will get swept up in the usual club rivalries and ignore the evidence. It suits everyone to change the current sporting justice system, because sooner or later any of the clubs could find themselves forced to prove innocence when guilt is assumed.

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Have your say...
o come on people its only susy campanale how can you take her blog serious she is a well known bunga bunga fan and hates inter she will have a dig at inter at first opportunity i think she well be in an italian court very soon for trying to influence feelings against inter and damage the clubs rep a person in her position has to be a neutral and not biased
on the 3rd August, 2012 at 3:19am
Susy, I applaud you on a very good article. An unbias and accurate view of how sick the Italian sporting judges and system are. A very sick culture, and a backward approach to how to approach, treat and deal with these cases. I think and agree with you that the current system is flawd and extremely despicable when some one is treated guilty and is forced to prove his innocence. I agree, a win for conte would be a win to change the entire way of how they approach sporting cases.
on the 3rd August, 2012 at 3:18am
Good article. Moggi didn't do anything that everybody else wasn't doing. Juventus were ruined for 6 years by the FIGC and Inter only won the titles as a result of Juve going down and being forced to sell all their champions minus a few. Conte will beat this because there is no evidence except another man's word. I live in the USA. This wouldn't have even got a trail or a plea bargain. With a good lawyer it would have been thrown out. You should be innocent until proven guilty, not this way.
on the 3rd August, 2012 at 2:41am
perhaps Juventus should consider moving to Ligue 1 or the Bundesliga. They are Italy's finest team, and use mostly Italian players, and yet the FIGC is trying to hurt Juventus. I cant imagine why.
I only hope this injustice galvanises the Juventus squad and makes Conte and the players work harder in training, with great results on the field
on the 3rd August, 2012 at 2:23am
Top article. Thanks Susy.
on the 3rd August, 2012 at 1:14am
Why are you asking to hear the evidence? The evidence was in the article, it is 1 guilty man trying to worm his way out of jail time by bringing others down with lies. And stop with the "everyone targeting Juve" comments, this isnt about Juve, this is about a flawed legal system where criminals can make up rubbish to save their own skin. Imagine a justice system that takes the word of a criminal and prosecutes innocent people, this is what Italy has.
on the 3rd August, 2012 at 12:59am
Its Inters fault! Morratti is by far a bigger crook than Moggi and Angelli, hes probably has that Carrabaio guy in his payroll.
on the 3rd August, 2012 at 12:53am
As Juventino i fell that we never have to hire cheaters again, the CLUB is bigger than a individual so get out of our way CONTE, BONUCCI and PEPE!. Thanks to you the whole contry thinks we cheated again and again! but this time we didnt!!!!!!!
on the 3rd August, 2012 at 12:49am
After reading the wire taps from Calciopoli and watching Inter receive no punishment and Juventus getting the worst of it i lost faith in the FIGC. If you read the wire taps Inter's involvement was deep and somehow ignored so there is a seriously biased opinion high in the FIGC chain of command.
on the 3rd August, 2012 at 12:04am
To the anonymous guy who described Roma as innocent this the same Roma who's president (Sensi)was known to give Rolex watches to referees and FIGC executives as Christmas presents?
on the 2nd August, 2012 at 11:59pm
Let's face it Juve are back on top and people went to crumble the empire. So every time Juve win the Scudetto will there be a trial against players and managers?
on the 2nd August, 2012 at 11:02pm
thank you suzy! its about time someone stood up to this disgraceful justice system. Forza Conte!
on the 2nd August, 2012 at 10:42pm
The other players who "didn't hear" the comment aren't exactly disinterested witnesses though, are they? Why would Conte even consider a plea bargain if there was no real evidence against him?

He's not making a stand and it's cheap journalism to suggest that he's some sort of hero, he offered the plea bargain and now he has no alternative but to go through with the matter. Innocent or guilty, let's actually hear the evidence before we come to any conclusions.
on the 2nd August, 2012 at 10:42pm
Well-written article, but give me a break on Moggi.

The man is a crook and disgraced Serie A. I see your point about other teams doing it, but that doesn't excuse his blatent manipulation of referees. And it wasn't "everyone" doing it, as teams like Roma have been known for being honest whistleblowers (eg. Baldini and Zeman in 98).

Regarding Conte, the public doesn't know all the facts. Frankly, he might be unjustly made into a scapegoat to send a message, but we don't know for sure
on the 2nd August, 2012 at 10:41pm
@arjen - u are a bit of a numpty arnt u! have u not read the article? and more to the point do u know anytthing about the Italian Backward system??! this has nothing to do with Juve as a club biut an individual who has teh right fight this farce of a charge! so in ur world a bent lyin cheats word to get a lighter sentence against 24 others! is a fact? and should be taken as punishment? u fool! read the article! and go read up on some italian law..Geez pal! u sound like Moratti!
on the 2nd August, 2012 at 10:34pm
Great take on it Susy. Completely agree.

@Arjen. Did you not read the whole thing? In Italy you are not considered guilty if you accept a plea bargain. NOT, I repeat.

@Oliviero well said. Its an archaic system the Italian law system. It is so backwards that it risks blowing calcio back a few hundred years too.

Personally, this whole thing is just so disappointing. Italian football is eating itself from the inside out and soon there will be nothing left...but Inter.
on the 2nd August, 2012 at 10:23pm
I thought its only in Nigeria that we've a corrupt system of justice. But now I understand that the italian system is more corrupt than our own, because in Nigeria there is no way the judge can accept the words of one person who is already guilty and reject the words of 23 innocent men without charging them all. Because, if Carobbio is 2rue about what he said regarding Conte, then, all the 23 men also fail to report the attempted match fixing. Now, is ether the FIGC let conte go freely or they should charge all the 23 men equally as they charged him. Else, it'll be clear to every1 in the world that FiGC is nothing but anti-juventus!!! FORZA JUVE!
on the 2nd August, 2012 at 10:15pm
I have been reading news/blogs every day for the last 8-9 years on this page, but I have to say that this is the best blog ever. The way it's written is really amazing and even though I'm not a fan of Juve, this blog really shows how bad the Italian justice system is.. Worse system ever.
on the 2nd August, 2012 at 10:13pm
Crazy things in Italy.
on the 2nd August, 2012 at 10:12pm
The FIGC are conducting a witch-hunt on Juventus. The rejection of the original plea bargain confirms this. Kafka could not have imagined this turn of events. Absurd.
on the 2nd August, 2012 at 10:08pm
Well done, Susy. A spotlight really needs to be placed on this disgusting system of "justice". As a lawyer in the USA, the bolts fall out of my brain every morning as I follow these proceedings in the media. Forcing someone to prove that an event ddn't happen? Discarding the testimony of 24 law-abiding witnesses in favor of an admitted cheat? Juve's lawyers are fighting for all of us now.
on the 2nd August, 2012 at 10:05pm
Great article. Minus two parts:

1) "This man who had already been caught in contact with betting syndicates and confessed with the promise of bringing bigger names to the prosecutor in exchange for a large discount on his own punishment."

Him getting a reduced sentence by naming Conte is innuendo, which hasn't been documented

2) Do not ever say something like "Moggi had a point". I am not God, and I do not see all sin as being equal. Moggi's ring, was RIDICULOUSLY more far reaching, and criminal. Juventus were 'unfairly' punished as far as the charges that actually stuck, and the comparitive non-punishment, or punitive punishments for other teams. But the "charges that stuck" were a disgusting slap on the wrist for that crook called Moggi.
on the 2nd August, 2012 at 10:04pm
This is a good article and sums up my feelings on the case. It is important to point out that this isn't just about Juventus, because lots of people have been charged, and this whole process of plea bargaining to avoid the bother of a long court case doesn't sit comfortably.

Are the prosecutors interested in investigating this properly, or handing out punishments to create the illusion that they're sorting the problem?
on the 2nd August, 2012 at 10:02pm
By wanting to bargain 3 months, you directly admit being guilty, otherwise you wouldnt make such an offer when you KNOW you are innocent.

juve boys that keep on pretending their club is all clear are unbelievable: yes it is all a conspiracy and juve is as clean as a newly bought madonna statue... yeah sure.

a fox looses his hairs but never its trick... typical, one wonders why no one apart from juve fans take them seriously anymore... o yeah i do: because when there is smoke, there IS fire!
on the 2nd August, 2012 at 10:00pm
As a Juventus fan and an italian fan I think this is a disgrace how they can destroy one of italys brightest up and coming managers career on what one player says! The plea bargin was to lower his own ban which he doesnt deserve. Conte should fight for his innocents an get back to the Juventus bench. While the italian federation sort their own people out!! Froza juve!!
on the 2nd August, 2012 at 9:56pm
Great article. Thank you!
on the 2nd August, 2012 at 9:54pm
This case is so backwards, and to think of how the "responsible" persons/clubs have been given a slap on the wrist, while high profile bystanders have to defend themselves tooth and nail, is just ridiculous.

This is not justice, this is a mockery of true justice. Who initially set the game? who bet big money? who paid players off? Those are whom these prosecutors should be sentencing...
on the 2nd August, 2012 at 9:54pm
Great piece. Crisp and simple. Agreed.
on the 2nd August, 2012 at 9:49pm
The way this sounds to me is that Palazzi and the prosecutors are being allowed to try and convict people on hear-say evidence, which is something that hasn't been acceptable evidence in a serious justice system since the Middle Ages!
on the 2nd August, 2012 at 9:38pm
Now i start to believe that "real" mafia in italy are the FIGC & Commitee whose supported by law system...
on the 2nd August, 2012 at 9:36pm

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I'm working on a sun tracking project using mirrors to direct the sun into a skylight, but have struck a 3d geometry issue. You can check the project out if your interested here: http://arduinobeam.blogspot.com/
I didn't see this issue coming and still struggle a bit to visualise it but a 3d model helps.

See image below..

Because of the way the primary mirror is offset to prevent shadow being cast onto it from the secondary mirror, it turns out a few complications occur. The adjustment of the primary (elevation) mirror angle effects the azimuth alignment because the reflection plane is not vertical (as it would be if both mirrors were in line). To solve this I need to be able to calculate the two angles marked with ? from the elevation angle E and the mirror offset (currently 18.4deg). I know that the angles A are equal (this is the path of a ray in the plane of reflection).

I have had a go at this, but so far am struggling with the derivation. I assumed that the solid lines were of known length (1 for convenience) but this may not be necessary. If anyone feels inspired please give it a crack and let me know how you get on!  ;)

Forgive me if this is too naive but isn't it as simple as saying that 2A = E + ?   (where ? is the lower unknown angle), hence ? = 2A - E.

With this quantity known, A = 18.4 + ? (where ? is the upper angle...you really ought to use different symbols :)  hence  ? = A - 18.4.

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Ah but A is unknown as it increases and decreases with changed in E (the elevation of the sun). Sorry about the symbols bad form I know, try this one out:

E and 18.4 are known, that's all..

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I haven't used the Windows version, but under Linux you can run predict in server mode.
One of the things it broadcasts on port 1280 is the sun's current altitude and azimuth.
You could put an Ethernet shield on your Arduino and receive the Sun's or Moon's current position.

if there are right angle between the planes containing x and y and the planes containg x and E, you should have:

x = 2 * 18.4 = 36.8 and
y = E / 2

That will simplify your problem.

Hey Korman, there are right angles between the planes containing x and y and the planes containing x and E. But x does not equal 2*18.4. that seems intuitive, and is what I first thought as well, but the model I made shows how the projection of the two equal angles 'a' onto a second plane creates two new angles.. if that makes sense.

I may need to go back to the old text books, seems like this should be easily solvable with the right technique.

After tackeling the cad model in a different way it became clear that the tips of the incoming ray vectors all lay on a circle offset from the circle traced by the centre of the elevation mirror. Knowing this and using some similar triangles I came up with these two equations:

az = sin-1(sin(off)/cos(e))
em = tan-1(tan(off).tan(e)/(sin(az) + tan(off).cos(az)))

where :
az            =             additional azimuth angle added by primary mirror
em           =             required elevation of the primary mirror
off           =             offset of the primary mirror from centre
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just a quick question, specifically about a multiplexer but may just be a 'rule of thumb' for many ICs

with the  CD74HC4067E PDIP

Ive got a 100nF cap accross the power

but do i need a resistor along the 'enable pin to ground' connection

the schematic on the single SMD CD74HC4067 board here:  http://www.sparkfun.com/products/9056
has a 10k resistor

but the same chips here on a 3 chip board dont: http://mayhewlabs.com/products/arduino-mux-shield

is this resistor important??

tried searching and people mention building your own mux ect but no specifics on the resistor

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Logic chips like this can have the pins directly connected to either voltage rail. However a 10K to ground makes it look like a logic zero but allows you to easily pull it high later if you want to connect a signal to it.

Thanks! so I know its not essential, I'm just going to connect them direct to ground for now, as thats ok

but if I decide I want to enable/disable the chips for some reason, I add a resistor to ground ( is 10k enough for two chips?)  so its enabled by default but use a 5v 'digital out pin to 'HIGH' to this enable wire to dissable the chips?

have i got that right?

Yes that is right.  :)

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They are trying to make up their mind whether or not to supercede the queen.  Swarms often do since it's the old queen that leaves with the swarm.  I'd let them sort it out, unless you see some failing in the queen that needs to be rectified.
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int main( char[][] args )
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OK I know there has been many posts about this and I have read through, probably, most of them.  I cannot find the solution to my problem though.

I install Kubuntu and then LMCE.

Now I wish to install the latest video drivers for the card I have in the media box.

Goto nVidia website.  Download the drivers it says I need for my card.

Now I folow the driver wiki that has been pointed to before in many posts.

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Now I seem to get back into mce but I have flickering gfx.  So I goto advanced options to select AVWizard.  Machine reboots and just before loading up linux it gets stuck in a constant look declairing an image file canot be found and goes around and around in a loop.

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There seems to be a problem with the blended UI2 and the latest nVidia drivers. You will get better results with the overlay UI2. However there are some serious bugs in the .19 driver that nVidia have acknowledged and will be fixing in the next release. If you can get the older driver working you are better off. If you have one of the newer chipsets thats not supported your options are more limited.


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I don't know what happened to my front camera. I just saw block dots. What to do?

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hardware issue maybe?
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I'm new on the galaxy s4 forum.
Which is the best custom kernel for Galaxy S4 I9505 4.3 stock rom.....??

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Anytime I try to delete a photo, it reappears within a pretty short window or after reboot in my gallery. I have tried clearing data/cache for the gallery app, rebooting immediately afterwards, and this issue persists. Anyone else having this issue, or have any idea how to stop it? It also seems that when I try to move photos into different folders (on the SD card) they never show up in their new destination.
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[Q] CM 11.0 (Kitkat 4.4.2) downgrade to stock ROM?

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By zhangla, Junior Member on 3rd June 2014, 01:26 AM
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I have CM 11 flashed on my phone that is rooted. I wanted to downgrade back to any stock ROM for SIM card unlocking purposes. Obviously the CM 11 does not allow SIM card unlocking even with valid unlocking code.

My question is, is that possible? I think the CM 11 upgraded the modem and bootloader, which means there is no way back to older versions.

Can someone please provide some insights? Below are the settings of my phone:

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Use odin and flash back to 4.3
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I'm on cm11 too. Can I simply flash a 4.3 modem and bootloader?

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Since you have the 4.3 bootloader on your phone, you came flash any stock ROM in Odin unless that ROM had been compiled for use in Odin. Flashing a ROM that tries to downgrade the bootloader will brick your phone. Look in the development forum for methods to flash back to stock on a phone with a 4.3 bootloader.
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Can someone confirm that we can downgrade via ODIN.... i want to reset my phone back to its original settings.

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[Q] 4k video on Note Pro 12.2

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It is not true. I can watch 4k video on my 2k monitor The real reason is the processor for sure.

The real reason is that the needed codec has not been added to the framework!
I have seen phones like Sony Xperia L that the gpu has 1080p decoding power but I can't play 1080p videos with H/W decoder because of lacking the needed codec( VP8 ) .

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This exact same problem exists on the Note 3. (Same hardware) It's the Exynos, it's too weak. 1.9gHz is simply not enough, no matter how many cores it has. Cores do not stack. You need at least 2.2gHz individual for 4K.

The N9005 with the same hardware as the P905 handles 4K without issue (As does the P905).
The N900 has, from the very first day, been officially known to be unable to handle 4K. The P900 has identical hardware, and can't handle it either. The Exynos is simply not powerful enough.

Not to mention the Mali GPU is a graphical bottleneck.

Convert the video to a lower resolution. You can use Handbrake for it, it's open source.

This is one of the reasons I refuse to buy an Exynos device.
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I'm trying to do some animation with the shape manager on several objects. When I have the shape manager open, select another object and refresh it to load it into shape manager I see it, but when I create new keyframes nothing happens unless I open a new shape manager view.

Is this normal, or do I need to change a setting somewhere so I don't have to open a new shape manager view every time a want to animate another object ?

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make sure the panel lock is not on, and check the refresh button too.

I havn't seen this problem yet Just thinking of the simple things to check first :thumbsup:

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Thanks T4D, I checked both. Looks like the only way to see something happening here without opening a new view is to toggle the "create" "animate" Tabs.

Otherwise the shape at the top of the shape list will be active bacause it is selected instead of the "result" in the "create" tab.

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Hi all,

Is there a way to make it so that Maya's script editor will not clear the contents of the text input area after a command is sucessfully executed?

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There is no switch that I have ever found, but you can simply highlight the code, and when you execute it, it will leave it there.

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Dar Al Rahmah-Tajweed and Arabic courses

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    Dar Al Rahmah

    A Centre of Excellence in Quran, Tajweed and Islamic Education

    Assalamu Alaikum Warahmatullahi wabarakathahu

    Alhamdolillah, the moment many of you have been waiting for.... we are pleased to a announce that we have a very qualified Tajweed and Arabic Language teacher for Brothers (Adults)….

    * Adult Tajweed Course for Brothers (Level 1)

    o Classes will be taught by our new teacher Ahmad Faruq Siddiqi

    Teacher Profile - Born and raised in Bradford. Preliminary study of Islam and Islamic Sciences was with his father Maulana Abdul Qadir. He studied Arabic Language and memorised the Quran at the European Institute of Islamic Sciences (France).He has studied the classical Shari’ah Sciences with scholars in Syria and recently completed the BA Islamic Jurisprudence course from Mahd Al-Fath (Damascus).He has an Ijazah for teaching tajweed from Sheikh Zakariya Siddiqi (France) and Sheikh Ayman Swaid (Saudia Arabia). He has experience in teaching Tajweed and Arabic.

    o The course will be available for brothers aged 12+ and will last for 16 weeks starting 11/11/2007 Insha’Allah

    o On this course students will learn how to recite The Qur’an with its proper articulation and rules (tajweed) by combining theory and practice. Students will be expected to memorise selected Surahs with the correct rulings as they near the end of the course in preparation for the next level. Our aim in this course is to help students improve their recitation of the Qur’an and recite fluently with the rules learned in class

    o The cost of the course is £75

    o Classes will be in held at Gearies School on Sundays from 10am – 11.30am

    o Students are required to bring a Qur’an to the classes (Othmani font preferred) as well as pens/pencils and notebooks. Handouts are provided as necessary.

    * Adult Arabic Language Course for Brothers (Level 1)

    o The course will be available for brothers aged 12+ and will last for 20 weeks starting 11/11/2007

    o We will be using the Madinah Book Series - "The Arabic Course for English-Speaking Students is a comprehensive and popular course for the teaching of the Qur’anic and Traditional Arabic, originally devised and taught at the renowned Madinah Islamic University, catering for the non-Arabic speaking students from all over the world”

    o The cost of the course is £95 which includes the cost of the course text book

    o Classes will be in held at Gearies School on Saturdays / Sundays from 11.30am – 1pm (*timings could slightly change)

    o Students are expected to bring notebooks (including a separate one for vocab) as well as pens / paper.

    * Why should I learn Tajweed?

    o Introduction and Purpose - The word Tajweed linguistically means ‘proficiency’ or doing something well. It comes from the same root letters as ‘jayyid’ (meaning ‘good’). When applied to the Qur’an, it means giving every letter its rights & dues of characteristics during recitation and observing the rules that apply to the letters in different situations. We give the letters their rights by observing the essential characteristics of each letter. We give them their dues by observing the characteristics of each letter that are present in them in certain situations. Because the Qur’an is from Allah, its recitation must be taken very seriously. The purpose of the science of Tajweed is to make the reciter proficient in reciting the Qur’an, observing the correct pronunciation of every letter, without any exaggeration or deficiency. And so through this the reciter can recite the Qur’an upon the way of the Prophet (saw) who received it from Allah (SWT) via Jibreel in the classical Arabic dialect that it came down in.

    o Makhraj - Arabic letters each have a Makhraj (exit or articulation point) from which they originate and they also have a sifaat (attribute) associated to them. Knowing the Makhraj or sifaat is important to Tajweed. Sometimes 2 letters have very similar articulation points which makes mixing them up easy. So if a person does not know the attributes of each letter there is a danger that they will change the meaning of the words in Qur’an recitation. Observing the rules of tajweed in reciting protects the reciter from making mistakes in reciting the Qur’an.

    The scholars have divided the types of mistakes one might fall into when reciting the Qur’an into 2 types— 1. Clear Mistakes 2. Unobvious (hidden).

    Clear mistakes must be avoided by all and to avoid them, one must know the rules of tajweed, If a person falls into the clear mistakes, this is considered a sin and Ibn Taymiyyah even regarded it undesirable for a student of knowledge (knower of tajweed) to pray behind a person who makes clear mistakes in their Salah. As for the unobvious mistakes, then the ruling on them is lighter and the recitation of a person with unobvious mistakes is regarded as lacking in completeness.

    The Prophet (saw) said ‘beautify the Qur’an with your voices [for a fine voice increases the Qur’an in beauty]’ - (Bukhari)

    He (saw) also said ‘He who does not recite the Qur’an in a pleasant voice is not of us’ - (Abu Dawud)

    ‘Those who We have given the Book to, give it its right in recitation (recite it as it should be recited)’ - (Surah al-Baqarah, Ayah 121)

    * Location

    o All Classes are based at Gearies Infants School, Waremead Road, Gants Hill, Ilford IG2 6TF (Cental line tube) (map)

    o We have free parking facilities at the school

    o See below for our contact details

    o For registrations, please call us to arrange an appointment on 07912204928

    * Join our Teaching team

    o We are always looking to take on new experienced teachers

    o We have very competitive rates of pay

    o Work in a school environment with IT resources such as smart interactive boards, PC, projector, audio facilities etc.

    o Female Teachers – please email us on Zeenat@daralrahmah.co.uk or call on 07944664372

    o Male Teachers – please email us on mohammed@daralrahmah.co.uk or call on 07912204928

    * Contact details

    o Contact us by email as follows:

    o Sisters – Zeenat@daralrahmah.co.uk / Najeeba@daralrahmah.co.uk

    o Brothers – Mohammed@daralrahmah.co.uk

    o General enquiries – info@daralrahmah.co.uk

    o Visit our Website – www.daralrahmah.co.uk

    o Sisters can contact Zeenat on 07944664372 and brothers can contact Mohammed on 07912204928

    MAY ALLAH BLESS YOU – Dar Al Rahmah
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    Tajweed is the Science of reading Qur'an correctly.
    Learning how to recite the Qur'an correctly is an obligatory act upon EVERY Muslim.

    "Whoever recites a letter from the Book of Allah, he will be credited with a good deed, and a good deed gets a ten-fold reward. I do not say that Alif-Lam-Mim is one letter, but Alif is a letter, Lam is a letter and Mim is a letter.''

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iPad Happy iPad Mini owners, switch back to next 9.7 iPad if same weight?

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Happy Mini owner switch back to iPad 5 if its the same weight?

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  1. switch to light weight iPad 5

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  2. Stay with the mini

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  1. jqc
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    Jun 30, 2007
    Just curious, how many happy ipad mini owners (of which i am 1) would switch back to iPad 5 it it got close to the same weight as the current mini?

    For me, I switched mainly for the weight. The smaller form factor is nice but its not small enough to fit in most jacket pocket pockets so you most people will have to use a bag anyway. In that case 9.7 v.s 7.9 doesnt make a ton of difference...so why not have the extra screen real estate?

    Of course if that happens ipad mini 2 should be even MORE lighter, but maybe at that point its worth it for the bigger screen.

  2. macrumors 68020

    Jun 27, 2009
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    <--- staying with the Mini form factor
  3. macrumors 6502

    Nov 9, 2011
    Id rather have my mini non retina than a lighter revised full sized iPad...I prefer the mini
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    Jun 15, 2009
    Stick with the Mini.
    Form Factor, doesn't feel like I am holding a display in my face.
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    Sep 21, 2010
    I prefer the smaller form factor.

    "Switching back" implies that Mini owners started with the 9.7. I never liked the size of the 9.7 and so I didn't buy an iPad until the Mini came out.

    For those who prefer the larger size, I'd be really surprised if many of them switched to iPad Mini just because of a roughly 10% increase in size and weight. That's a very drastic change in screen size and resolution compared to a small change in size/weight.
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    May 15, 2008
    for me its the size (IT DOES MATTER AFTER ALL) ;)

    seriously, I love the size of the mini. perfect for my uses (reading and netflix) when I am at work. As I work in my car I needed it small and light to easily store when doing fares.

    If I had the money I would like a lightweight 10inch iPad for in the house, but alas thats noway gonna happen.
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    May 3, 2009
    The weight is not the reason I bought the mini, its the form factor. In fact I may go out on a limb and guess that many if not most mini owners purchased it because of the size not the weight.
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    Jul 17, 2008
    I'd have to try out the form factor to be sure, but I suspect that if the 9.7 iPad weighed the same as the current mini, I'd go back to using just the 9.7 iPad. But then, I'm not sure I count as a "happy" mini owner. I find the mini convenient for carrying outside the house, but I've always prefered the larger size screen.
  9. macrumors regular

    Nov 10, 2012
    While weight is a huge factor, I realize now that I simply don't enjoy a massive tablet anymore. The mini is the right size.
  10. macrumors regular

    Jul 6, 2011
    No because I can now hold a glass of wine in my left hand while actively using the Mini in my right hand at the same time.

    I haven't used our iPad2 since I picked up the Mini last week.
  11. macrumors member

    Dec 10, 2012
    I'm so happy of my Mini but I'm interested in the iPad 5 too.

    But it must have the same form factor, and the lowest weight as possibile to convince me to switch to the iPad 5 or I will wait the Mini 2 to upgrade.
  12. macrumors 68000

    Sep 28, 2007
    I would probably switch but I'm not sure that this is possible, and if it was wouldn't the mini get lighter too? In which case I'd stay with mini.
  13. macrumors 65816

    May 2, 2005
    Got both already, will get the 5th gen if it has must have features. For myself weight and form factor are non issues and I have uses for both sizes at present.

    The mini is good for browsing and reading, but the retina is indispensable for remote admin work.
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    Mar 19, 2012
    The only thing worth upgrading to from the current mini is when they have a retina mini. The form factor of the mini makes it infinitely more useful than the standard iPad. I've had every version of iPad, and always wanted to be able to bring it with me but it was just too big. Now with the mini it's soooo much more portable, it even fits in the pockets of several of my jackets.

    A retina mini would be the be all end all of tablets IMHO.
  15. macrumors 68000

    Nov 2, 2006
    And Yourself?
    I look to keep my mini for quite some time and prefer this size over the larger iPad.
  16. macrumors 65816

    Mar 10, 2008
    Right with ya. I'll always have a use for both. I enjoy both form factors for different reasons. I didn't respond to the poll as I'm a daily user of both iPads. The mini and the 4. We also use the regular iPads for our business and 'family room' entertainment.

    That said....if I absolutely HAD to get rid of one or the other, I'd keep the iPad 'Major'. It would be awfully hard to give up the mini though. We love ours! I'm fine with the bulk of the bigger iPad assuming they continue to put this type of power under the hood. The iPad 4 is getting very close to a competent laptop replacement. We often leave the MacBook Airs and Pros at home these days because of the convenience, power and app/software selection on the iPad.

  17. macrumors 6502a

    Jun 16, 2009
    I'd stay with my Mini. As much as I can appreciate Retina, it's not in any way a necessity for me. Size is perfect...
  18. macrumors member

    Jan 8, 2013
    I chose the ipad4 but I do see the appeal of the mini and it's here to stay.In Asia,the mini is sold out.In Hong Kong,you see people walking or standing around while using their mini and on public transport.You can't do that with the 9.7,at least not comfortably.You can hold the mini quite comfortably with one hand but the screen size looks way bigger than the 7in offerings.

    I use my ipad4 as a second laptop around the house so I enjoy the larger display.There is no debate that a larger display is nicer to use.I am hoping that Apple will make a bigger ipad while trimming the weight.
  19. macrumors 65816

    Apr 13, 2006
    Doubtful that I would switch back. I already have an iPad 3 and the only time it gets used is when the mini battery runs down or my son uses it because he has no iPad at all. The iPad 5 would have to be as light as the mini I think for me to even consider it.
  20. macrumors 6502a

    Jun 21, 2009
    Central, Louisiana
    No switching back, I love the mini's size period!
  21. macrumors 68040

    Sep 15, 2011
    Vilano Beach, FL
    For me, the most compelling thing about the Mini wasn't the external dimensions, it was the weight.

    Now a couple of potential future scenarios that will be interesting for me.

    iPad Mini, retina, A6x, same size/weight vs. current iPad4 ... for me, I'd say 70/30 preference toward the Mini.

    iPad Mini, retina, vs. iPad "5" that's ~300g ..., I think I'd probably flip it the other way, 30/70 :)
  22. macrumors regular

    Aug 8, 2012
    I bought the Mini for several reasons, but mostly because I wasn't entirely sure I wanted/needed an iPad in the first place. I have a Macbook pro for every day computing, a Mac Pro for my work needs, and a Mac Mini as an HTPC. It's hard to justify throwing an ultra-portable device like the iPad into the mix, especially if it doesn't have all of the capabilities of a Macbook Pro, but I got an Apple giftcard from my family so I thought I'd try it out and see if I really have a use for it.

    That being said, If I do decide that I NEED an iPad, it would be a toss up as to whether I upgrade to the full size machine or stay with a Mini. The big iPad isn't really that BIG in the first place, it's more of a want vs. need vs. cost decision for me.
  23. macrumors 6502

    Jan 5, 2013
    Staying with the mini, its not so much weight for me as the regular iPad isn't exactly heavy......but the form factor is what I like. I like how it fits in my hands and how its much easier to type on than a full sized iPad. If I didn't have a laptop as well I'd probably consider going back, but as is I don't think I'd ever go back to full sized.
  24. macrumors 65816

    Apr 21, 2004
    Mini! Love putting it in my jean Pocket.
  25. macrumors 6502a

    May 2, 2008
    Not an iPad mini owner YET, but having owned a 9.7 iPad, I prefer the footprint of the Mini. It's not just the weight that's appealing but the footprint as well.

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How feasible is an iMac Pro, to replace Mac Pro?

Discussion in 'Mac Pro' started by iBug2, Nov 2, 2012.

  1. macrumors 68040

    Jun 12, 2005
    I've been thinking about a possible iMac Pro in 2013 to replace the current Mac Pro.

    What I'll write is about my workflow and obviously may not be "ok" for others.

    First of all, I don't need 4 internal hard drives anymore. Before, I was using the internals as a RAID0 to speed up things, but nowadays we have SSD, so we don't need a RAID0 to boost OS/app performance. Single disk is ok for most stuff. If someone is doing video capture and requires a 6 disk RAID0 with SSD's, he/she can do that externally with thunderbolt now.

    I don't need 3 PCI slots. I've been using one except the GPU for eSata I/O, but now I don't need it due to USB 3.0. There are obviously some specialty PCI hardware which cannot be replaced today, but I'm pretty sure that if Apple dumps PCI altogether, most manufacturers will come out with Thunderbolt versions. GPU is one of the few places we need the PCI bandwidth. Sound/video editing cards can work with TB and give a similar performance.

    I don't need an internal optical drive, I bought and external Blu Ray drive 2 years ago and still use that instead of the internal drive on my Mac Pro.

    These were the stuff I don't need from Mac Pro.

    Now the stuff I need from Mac Pro.

    Dual Processor. Now, I don't really know if Apple can actually fit two Xeon's into an iMac chassis. If they can't, this is a deal breaker for most.

    Desktop GPU. I'm pretty sure a big GPU can be fit into an 33" iMac chassis. There's more than enough room for that one.

    Ram: I think newer Xeon's can use Non-EEC memory, so SO DIMM's should work with those. In that case, one can easily fit 64GB Memory into a 33" iMac.

    In this case, the biggest issue seems to be fitting dual xeons into an iMac chassis. If that can be done, I'd love a new 33" iMac, possibly with a 2.5k vertical resolution. Put a 4500$ price on that and I'll buy.
  2. macrumors regular

    Aug 14, 2012
    An iMac will never get Xeon processors or GPUs equivalent to current-gen workstations.

    But an iMac will probably suffice for a lot of people anyway.
  3. thread starter macrumors 68040

    Jun 12, 2005
    I don't really see why they wouldn't be able to fit a GPU into a possible iMac 33" which is as big as GTX580. The volume should be enough. Xeon is a different matter. Xeons are really big. That's why I said that it may not be a fit.
  4. macrumors regular

    Apr 14, 2004
    I don't see a desktop GPU in the iMac, especially in how they're going with the iMac design. Unless they figure out a way to thunderbolt it from an external case that is... And I don't know if that's enough speed and how it will work in Bootcamp in such a case.
  5. thread starter macrumors 68040

    Jun 12, 2005
    Not in a 27" one but should fit into a 33".
  6. macrumors 603

    Aug 5, 2010
    This focuses much more on what is possible than what would be a good idea. That display size alone would lock in a very high cost of entry. Displays kept getting larger for a long time. At 30" they backed off to 27" which was basically a wider version of the prior 25.5/26" (marketed both ways) display panels. The over 30" ones on the market right now are for displaying 4k content, and they're all quite expensive. Even if Apple brought it down to a $5k point of entry, I doubt they'd go for this. With the imac and notebooks as mainstream components have started to trend slightly downward in power consumption and somewhat in overall size, they were able to leverage in machines like we have there on the basis of being good enough.

    The high end of anything tends to be the most conservative in this regard. I don't think in the present year a $5k imac would sell. What you have now is potentially some people who used to buy $2-3k towers looking at $2k imacs with some cto options. Giving them that at the older price tag isn't likely to go over as well. It doesn't really leverage on price or functionality over the quasi-big iron at that point. It's just a slight step down for the same cost. If you look at the history of old graphics workstations, they died out in the 1990s. It wasn't that desktops were necessarily ahead of them. They were leveraged by the fact that they cost and performance were in better alignment.
  7. macrumors 6502

    Jan 22, 2012
    Sick to death of these threads. What you (OP) need is to build a custom PC to fit your needs.
  8. macrumors 6502a

    May 4, 2009
    Full size GPU in an iMac chassis? S-troll on.
    Apple are making iMac cases thinner not fatter, the existing GPUs are MMX laptop versions, the only method of full size GPU enhancement would be via the thunderbolt port when it becomes available, even then that would be for CUDA or OpenCL use or in a pipeline to an external monitor I assume.
    Want something in between? Hackintosh time.
    The current crop of i7 CPUs hyperthread to 8 virtual cores, future ones might go to 12, plenty for most users and overkill for the average.
  9. macrumors 6502a

    Jul 17, 2012
    PowerPC land
    My thought on this

    As mentioned before, we simply don't know what the 2013 Mac Pro will look like. For all we know it could be a hybrid of an iMac and xeon type processors. Again, speculation is something Apple has always been against in the past, but for those needing something quite fast and can't wait, my suggestion would be a 6-core and or 12-core depending on the type of work you do.

    In the end if the 6-core does what you need it to, then there is no need to keep harping on this subject of what the 2013 Mac Pro will look like or take the form of?

    I plan on staying with my 6-core 3.33 2010 as it does everything I need it to, but then again I only use my Mac Pro as a printer/file server and nothing really heavy. Therefore, the 2013 Mac Pro if any, wouldn't suit me for the tasks I do.
  10. macrumors 601

    Jul 17, 2010
    ^^^ You use the Hex for a server? What do you use for your main computer?
  11. macrumors 6502

    Jun 14, 2012
    Not very feasible.
  12. macrumors 68030

    Lesser Evets

    Jan 7, 2006
    I always wondered why the iMac never got a "pro" upgrade with dual processors. It doesn't need dual Xeons, but just dual whatever-it-has. At this time I'd switch to iMac if it had dual processing. The dual processors of the MacPro make it completely different from other Apple products in terms of productivity during high traffic and processing.

    However, be realistic: the Mac Pro with the Xeon processors is an excellent product... was an excellent product. They really need to upgrade this thing and step forward with modern interfaces like USB3 and TB.
  13. macrumors regular

    Jul 7, 2005
    That special mystical place.
    An iMac Pro would have a lot of disadvantages. The most obvious ones have already been named:
    - Lack of PCIe expansion
    - Lack of internal storage option
    - Less powerful GPU

    I would like to add the lack of a decent display, too.

    But the real question nobody could answer yet is: Whats the benefit of an iMac Pro? Wheres the beef? And please dont tell me just because Apple decides an iMac Pro should be sufficient for its Pro Users  because theres enough evidence that Apple has no longer any idea how diverse the Pro User scenery is.
  14. macrumors regular

    Sep 23, 2012
    The GTX680MX in the top spec'd iMac is effectively a lower clocked desktop GTX680. Same core counts and shaders, just lower clocks.
  15. macrumors regular

    Jul 7, 2005
    That special mystical place.
    Yeah, technically correct. But it has the ability to reduce clock speed if a certain thermal limit is reached. So in theory the GTX680MX can deliver 75% of the performance of GTX860. But is the GTX680MX able to deliver its performance on a sustained level?
  16. macrumors regular

    Sep 23, 2012
    We will have to wait and see, but Apples inclusion of this GPU shows that it is still interested in the (Semi?)pro market.
  17. macrumors member

    Mar 30, 2009
    Fort Worth
    I love all these theories! I hadn't considered an iMac Pro as a possibility, but given Tim Cook's vague comment, "We're working on something really great for next year," regarding a Mac Pro refresh, who knows? Considering the need for upgradability of components, I can't imagine that they could base an iMac Pro on the chassis of the new, or even old, iMac. It just seems like the sleek iMac look would get very bulky once they allowed for multiple drives, adequate cooling, etc.
  18. macrumors 68030

    Lesser Evets

    Jan 7, 2006
    If the iMarket is an indication of future possibilities, Apple will probably be attempting to transition away from Intel chips for their desktops as their Apple-designed chips and iOS reach some level of competency that can support a "pro" desktop.

    While this isn't going to be the case for the next 5 years, I am sure it is a strong possibility for circa 2020. A lot of work has to go into such plans, and they are progressing wildly on their A chips, so it wouldn't be a huge step to expand and transition crews to higher-end processors.

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