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THE Angling Trust has highlighted two reports that show that numbers of cormorants across Europe are their highest for 150 years. The Trust argues that the studies further strengthen the case for action to be taken to protect fish stocks in the UK from unsustainable predation by cormorants.

The first report was commissioned by the European Parliament's Fisheries Committee, from Professor Ian Cowx of Hull University's acclaimed Fisheries Institute; and the other is the European Commission's clarification on derogation under the Birds Directive, which provides important information to support any moves by the UK Government to open up the current licensing system for controlling cormorant numbers.

A review of the licensing of fish-eating birds has been carried out over the past two years, following pressure from the Angling Trust for the Environment Minister to act to protect fish stocks. One of the aims of Professor Cowx's report was to recommend a management strategy to reduce the damage caused by cormorants to fisheries and aquaculture.

Key findings of Professor Cowx's report were that:

· Cormorant numbers across Europe are now at their highest for at least 150 years, in excess of 500,000 birds.

· There has been an upsurge of cormorants in inland waters in Europe since the late 1980s.

· Cormorants are causing direct damage to fisheries and indirect damage to ecosystem dynamics including forestry, water quality and biodiversity.

· Countries need a structured management plan including lethal control A large scale management plan on Lake Huron in North America worked: cormorant populations in North America were reduced by 160,000 birds, nests in the Lake Huron area were reduced from a peak of 5,500 nests to 500. This resulted in a rapid recovery of fish stocks Each Member State should organise their response to cormorants drawing on lessons from the US Fish & Wildlife Service.

The second report provides the European Commission's clarification on derogations allowed under the Birds Directive. Key points included:

· It is allowed to protect fauna & flora and to prevent serious damage to crops, livestock, forests, fisheries and water.

· Annual report by Member States to EC required.

· There is a need to show "no other satisfactory solution" to lethal control

· Denmark & France have National Management Schemes Derogations to protect eels from predation in eel management plans which are acceptable.

· Derogations to protect marble trout, grayling and salmon are acceptable where their conservation status is at risk.

· Measures should be aimed not at maintaining specific population levels of cormorants but to provide necessary protection for fish and fisheries.

Chief executive of the Angling Trust, Mark Lloyd, said: "These two reports are highly significant as they clarify beyond argument that the EU Birds Directive is no barrier to allowing Member States to take the necessary action, including shooting, to protect fisheries from unsustainable predation by cormorants whose numbers have exploded in recent decades. Without healthy fish populations in our rivers, streams and lakes many other types of wildlife will suffer, and we will lose the huge benefits of angling to the economy and society. Cormorant numbers are doing untold damage to our fish and fishing, which is why the Angling Trust has persuaded the government to review the current and wholly inadequate system of licensing controls on their numbers and the damage they do. We urge the Minister to act as soon as possible now that the review has concluded."

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Master of Science in Biomedical Engineering

The master's program in biomedical engineering allows the engineer the opportunity to apply recent technological developments to the solution of current biomedical engineering problems in the areas of biomaterials, biotransport, bioinstrumentation and biomechanics. Electives in other areas to broaden the student's exposure are also required.

Admission Requirements

The applicant must have a Bachelor of Science in Biomedical Engineering or its equivalent. Applicants with degrees in other fields of engineering, or in science or mathematics, are ordinarily required to successfully complete preparatory undergraduate coursework before starting the program. These courses are established by the faculty advisor and the department head when the student is admitted to the program.

General admission requirements and the application process are presented in the Academic Overview section of the university catalog.

Degree Requirements

The Master of Science in Biomedical Engineering is offered with both thesis and nonthesis options. Each option requires satisfactory completion of 30 semester credit hours. Before completion of nine credit hours, the student must submit a master's degree program plan indicating specific courses to be taken. For the thesis option, up to six semester credit hours of thesis (BME 5999) may be included in the 30 credit hour requirement. For the nonthesis option a student will replace the thesis with three credit hours of a faculty-supervised graduate project (BME 5998) and an additional elective course.

The thesis option requires completion and successful defense of a thesis, while the nonthesis option requires a passing score on the final program examination based on both a written report and an oral presentation on the graduate project before the student's faculty committee. A thesis or graduate project proposal must be approved in advance by the faculty committee. All graduate students partly or fully supported by teaching or research assistantships are required to enroll in the thesis option. Generally, students wishing to pursue an academic career are encouraged to choose the thesis option. Required courses also include the zero-credit Biomedical Engineering Seminar (BME 5900) that all graduate students are required to register for and attend every semester.

The program requirements consist of two required courses, a zero-credit seminar and three core courses from a specified list; for a total of 15 semester credit hours. The remaining 15 credit hours consist of elective courses selected in consultation with the academic advisor and six credit hours of thesis, or three credit hours of a faculty-supervised graduate project.

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BME 5259 Medical Imaging
BME 5710 Orthopedic Biomechanics
BME 5720 Biomedical Instrumentation

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Well, after doing some research, it does seem vegan on-the-go is a hard hurdle to overcome.  I’m doing what everyone else does – relying on bars, nuts, fruits, nut butter, crackers and cut-up veggies.  Vegan cookies, chocolate and chips exist – but those aren’t my kind of snacks. So, for now, here’s my go-to list:

  • Lara bars are easy and readily accessible.
  • Raw Revolution and Vega nutrition bars are tasty – but on the pricey side. Vega bars might be an acquired taste.
  • Justin’s Nut Butter packs. Be wary of the chocolate hazelnut – so delicious it hurts.
  • Bananas and apples. The pre-cut organic apple slice packets are very handy.
  • Baby carrots, celery sticks and red pepper strips.
  • Pumpkin and sunflower seeds.
  • Raisins, dates and dried apricots.
  • Almonds, cashews, walnuts or pistachios
  • Dry cereal

This week, I’m branching out my portable snacks and will go for sweet potato fries, black bean and tomato salad and homemade vegan muffins. Recipes will follow.

As for the protein issue, I am still looking for the perfect post-workout protein. When I make notes about these products, remember – they are vegan protein powders. Deliciousness is relative.

BioChem Vegan Protein: In desperation, I invested in BioChem’s vegan protein powder. So far, I’ve only had it in a blueberry smoothie – but it was quite tasty. A combination of hemp, pea and cranberry (yes, cranberry) protein – it tastes pretty good and has 20 grams of protein per serving.  Not sure yet if I’ll be willing to try it mixed in almond milk or water alone.

Sun Warrior Raw protein powder is very good – I got a free sample – but I can’t find it here in the Springs except at Sammy’s Organics. I may break down and order it online, because it provides all the amino acids you need to form a complete protein. It is 83 percent protein (whey protein concentrate is 25 to 89 percent protein) and is also raw, which may mean you better absorb and digest it. Frankly, I think it is probably the best protein you can consume, but I have to get my hands on it.  It is pricey, however.

Hemp Protein: I like hemp protein, but I know it’s not for everyone. It has a bit of a plant-y taste, but I like it in smoothies. Hemp is close being a complete protein – meaning it offers almost all the amino acids you need to get from food.

Soy powder: Pure soy powder is a little controversial – once the food of the moment, it is now questioned as whether it is as miraculous as previous studies originally suggested. It also has estrogenic qualities. Soy powder has a distinct soy taste and, for me, makes my stomach a bit unhappy. Soy is a complete protein.

Pea Protein: ew. That’s all I have to say. I don’t mind it mixed with other proteins – but isolate pea, oh no. Pea is not complete when offered alone either.

Rice Protein: ew times two. Grainy and tasting distinctly of dirt, I can’t find any good reason to consume this. It is also incomplete, meaning it doesn’t even offer all the amino acids you need and isn’t very high in protein per serving.

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Puerto Rico punch ticket to Czech Republic

Puerto Rico's players went into a wild celebration following the victory over Cuba that earned them a ticket to FIVB Women's U20 World Championship in Brno, the Czech Republic

Havana, Cuba, March 20, 2013 - Puerto Rico clinched the last vacancy of NORCECA-South America to the FIVB Women’s U20 World Championship in the Czech Republic by defeating Cuba in straight sets (25-23, 25-19, 25-18) to conclude as leader of Pool B at the U-20 Pan American Cup on Wednesday.

The winners held a big margin in the blocking stats 12-5 with Paola Rojas compiling seven of her nine points via blocks. Puerto Rico was also slightly better in service winners 5-3.

Carlos J. Cruz, the Puerto Rican young debutant coach, could not hide his extreme joy for the success.

"We came here on a mission and fulfill it,” Cruz said “We ran our block and defense plan and controlled Cuba's offense and their attacking trends. Now we will continue with the same respect for all my rivals."

The winning captain Daly Santana, who finished with a match-high 14 points, had plenty to celebrate along with their joyful teammates. “We achieved the main goal, but we continue to compete.”

Pool A of the U-20 Pan American Cup featured teams - Colombia, Dominican Republic, Mexico and Peru - who had already qualified for the
FIVB U20 Women’s Volleyball World Championship prior to the tournament, while Pool B grouped together the teams who hadn't, putting on offer one ticket to Brno to the Pool B winner regardless of the quarterfinals, semifinals and finals.

In the quarterfinals on Thursday, Puerto Rico face Peru and Cuba take on Colombia, teams that finished third and fourth in Pool A. Mexico and the Dominican Republic, the first and second of Pool A, qualified directly to the semifinals.

Dominican Republic 3, Colombia 1
Dominican Republic scored its second win by defeating Colombia 3-1 (25-10, 20-25, 25-17, 25-23) to secure a place in the semifinals. The Dominicans won with excellent blocking and making the most out of the erratic serves of their opponents. Pamela Soriano and Brayelín Martinez topped the winners with 17 and 14 points respectively while Colombian Danna Escobar (18) was the best scorer of the match, followed by her teammates Maria Martinez (15) and Diana Arrechea (14).

Chile 3, Costa Rica 0
Chile beat Costa Rica in straight sets (25-15, 25-16, 25-12) to secure third place in Pool B. The South Americans had few problems to beat the Central Americans, who by the own words of coach Eladio Vargas arrived to the event with only six weeks of preparation. Chileans Catalina Melo (16) and Lucia Lozano (15) were the leading scorers of the match and the only to reach double figures. Costa Rican Tannia Pamerla Carazo had 9.

Mexico 3, Peru 0
Mexico defeated Peru in three sets (25-18, 25-12, 28-26) and advanced undefeated to the semifinals as leader of Pool A. In their third victory the Mexicans dominated in all departments to beat the Peruvians in attack, block and service. Mexican Alejandra Isiordia led with 22 points to maintain her good performance throughout the preliminary round, while teammate Lisbeth Sainz contributed 10. Peruvian Angela Leyva led her side with 10 tallies.

Puerto Rico 3, Cuba 0
Puerto Rico defeated Cuba in straight sets (25-23, 25-19, 25-18) to conclude as leader of Pool B with a 3-0 win-loss record.  It was a smooth victory for the Puerto Ricans where Daly Santana excelled with 14 points while the Cuban Sulian Matienzo had 12, the only players with double figures. Paola Rojas and Ana Jusino each contributed 9 points for Puerto Rico and Pilar Victoria added eight.

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Delicious Vietnam #10 – February Essen

    This month sees some of us travelling and visiting families for the Lunar New Year, so thank you all for spending time to write up your delicious pieces, which surprisingly comprise a very balanced and harmonious mix of courses, recipes, and reviews.

    From Los Angeles, California: Hong and Kim, the Ravenous Couple, slices out a beautiful assortment of papaya, carrot, daikon, garden herbs, and (my personal addiction) dried anchovies, in the name of Green Papaya Salad (Gỏi Đu Đủ)

    The salad, like all Vietnamese salads, is accompanied by Nước Mắm Pha, coincidentally also the dipping sauce that Penny at Jeroxie (Melbourne, Australia) uses for her BBQ lamb, fish, and beef! We wish her lemon tree the best. :-)

    Main courses

    From Sydney, Australia: Amy at Cookbook Maniac boils up a loving pot of Cà Ri Gà (chicken curry) as she recollects sweet memories of her mom’s homecooking.

    From Tennessee, USA: Pam at Sidewalk Shoes (Tennessee, US) combines Bò Lúc Lắc (shaken beef) with Xà Lách Xoong (watercress) to make an entrée full of “simple, clean, and fresh flavors”.

    From Melbourne, Australia: Anh, author of A Food Lover’s Journey, deconstructs Hanoian Vietnamese Coffee, brewing the old neighborhood’s filtering essence into your homemade cups. Her aromatic review of the vintage, “small, simply decorated [coffee] shops around town” makes me want to get on the next flight to Hanoi, and I don’t even drink coffee.

    From yours truly in Berkeley, USA: how about a small bowl of warm, sweet, luscious banana tapioca pudding (Chè Chuối Chưng) after meal?

    Good eats here and there

    From San Diego, California: Nam Nguyen recommends the best joint for Bánh Cuốn (steamed rice crepe roll) in Santa Ana on her blog The Culinary Chronicles.

    From Virginia, USA: Julia stumbles upon Dalat Vietnamese Cuisine and gets a “tasty, fresh, and filling” Bún Chạo Tôm Chả Giò, which results in a tasty review on her blog Beginner Mom on the Run.

    And lastly, from Houston, Texas: my mom discovers two new specialties unique to Kim Son Restaurant: Bánh Canh Cua Nam Phồ (Nam Phổ style crab-and-chewy-round-noodle soup) and Chả Ốc bọc lá chuối nướng (grilled snail sausage in banana leaf) this past week of the Lunar New Year. :-)

    That concludes this month’s Delicious Vietnam edition. So many thanks to the Food Lover Anh and the Ravenous Couple Hong and Kim for organizing the event.
    The next roundup, Delicious Vietnam #11, is hosted by Nam Nguyen at The Culinary Chronicles. Make sure to send your entries (post link and one 300-pixel-wide picture per entry) to her email theculinarychronicles [at] gmail [dot] com by Sunday March 13th. :-)

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Rams placed FB Brit Miller on injured reserve with a knee injury, ending his season.

Bad news for a player who ended 2010 on injured reserve with a torn ACL. Steven Jackson's lead blocker had been active for 12 of 13 games this season, carrying the ball five times for 14 yards. Although he's still just 25 years old, two major knee injuries in two seasons don't bode well for Miller's future.


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Take a break from work: watch a trailer…

If it’s Robert Rodriguez, it’s sure to feature tons of wacky greenscreen stuff: kids bouncing off pillows the size of planets to escape Day-glo monsters or somesuch. If Rodriguez can whip it on his Mac, he can slap a goofy kid into it and call it a movie.

James Spader as the transforming bad guy, though… that could be mildly amusing.

Since when do little kids make Scarface references? Who lets their gradeschooler watch that movie?

Shorts opens in the U.S. and the U.K. on August 21.

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    More to the point: since when did Scarface references become funny? And, honestly, kids don’t have to see Scarface to reference it; every movie with a big gun does the same “joke”, so they’ve seen that line (at this point) more often than we have.

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    What’s truly weird is that it’s the SECOND kids film to make that reference in memory. Aliens in the Attic made the same reference. My girlfriend and I saw both films trailers back to back and were a bit staggered.

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Airbus is to ease its production rate for the A380 in order to resolve the wing manufacturing issues which have resulted in the global fleet being checked for cracks in rib support brackets.

While the delivery target of 30 aircraft for 2012 is still achievable - mainly because most of these aircraft have already passed the Station 40 assembly point by which the airframer measures its production rate - Airbus is yet to assess any possible effect on 2013 deliveries.

New customers for the aircraft this year include Malaysia Airlines and Thai Airways but British Airways and Qatar Airways are among carriers scheduled to receive A380s in 2013.

The production rate currently stands at around 2.7 per month but Airbus is to ease this back to 2.3 over the next few weeks, and aims to recover the rate to its present level in the fourth quarter.

Airbus, which said earlier this year that it aimed to produce 30 A380s this year, states that it is "sticking" to this target, and is confident of reaching it.

Over the first quarter the airframer delivered four A380s: two to Singapore Airlines, and one apiece to Emirates and China Southern Airlines.

The airframer had intended A380 production this year to approach three per month. With the production rate slowing until the end of the year, there remains a question over the number of aircraft which will become available in 2013.

Airbus says it is too early to establish whether deliveries might be affected, because it has production options to help mitigate possible hold-ups.


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Tuesday, August 31, 2010

Nick vs Snake (Vid Clip)

Nick took a Quick Test Run...
As he was getting out of the water he made a new friend.
Check it!!!!

Monday, August 30, 2010

New Pics - Chris Dockstader

A few more new Shots Of Chris HERE

Sunday, August 29, 2010

Consider this Slam vid A Teaser to the main
vid we are working on for the end of the summer.
We have been collecting footage all summer long. Enjoy!!!

Rad, Kellen, Brady, Keith, Justin,
John, Savvy, Nick, Aaron, Trish,
Bubba, Corey, Kyle, Shawn, King...
Song By: Professor Kliq

Friday, August 27, 2010

Corey Sears - Boat Set Pics

More Pics HERE

Wednesday, August 25, 2010

Jared Simpson Vid Edit

Thanks to Jared Simpson For filming and editing this one for me..
3 Hits on the WSR Funbox from Sundays Sesh..
Thanks Man...
Check It....

Tuesday, August 24, 2010

New Pics - King

Pic By: Ryan Parker
Pic By: John Rogers
More Pics HERE

Monday, August 23, 2010

Woody Farmer Pics & Vids

Above: Couple Shots of Woody Farmer @ WSR.
Below: Check out some of Woodys Vid Edits.
This vid is 17 Minutes Featuring Sick Riding From:
Andrew Tarlton, Woody Farmer, Bret Little,
Jordan Coffey, Buster Woodham, Colton
Voswinkel, Andrew Pastura, and Clint Tompkins
Check the Rest of his Vids HERE

Couple New Shots of John Deere

More Shots of John HERE

Sunday, August 22, 2010

A day of Winching and Cable Vid

We Hit up Beer Run For a couple Hits each
until five0 showed and we had to move on.
Headed down to the Trinity Gaps and ended up
Hitting the New Cowtown Little bro Cable Park instead.
Good Times For SURE!!!!!!! Check It..
Riders - Corey, Wedge, and King
Song By - Tab

Friday, August 20, 2010

Joey Arcisz SHREDS!!!!!!!!!! (short vid)

Joey is always Behind the Camera Filming other people.
We turned the Cam around on him..
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Wednesday, August 18, 2010

LEGIT WAKE VID from kicker Sesh

Check Out LEGITs Latest Vid Clip From the kicker Sesh.
The Kicker is a BOOTER!!!
Corey and Brady Killed it..
Check it....

Monday, August 16, 2010

Ryan Smith @ WSR (Short Vid)

Film By Ryan Parker
Edit By King
Song By Professor Kliq

Caleb Kaker - NEW WSR Pics

Sunday, August 15, 2010

We Built Something New

Special Thanks To:
Bryan, Corey, Kyle, LEGIT,
John, Brady and Rad
for making this one work!
All building Pics By RAD
More Pics HERE
Vid soon...

Thursday, August 12, 2010

New Pics - John Deere

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I finally got a Gurgle Pop tied up in a size appropriate for LMBs, a size 2. Decided that with the cloudy weather, and wind shift this morning, that it was time to see if Sahoma had any LMBs that wanted to play.

I got my kayak in the water about 0930. Dropped a minnowbait into the water and trolled that over to where I planned on fishing. Never got a bite. Once I got to the spot, I pulled that in, and started throwing the foam bug around the weedline with my 8wt fly rod. I immediately started getting some hits from sunfish. I wasn?t really surprised, honestly. I managed to snag a small Bluegill there.

As I drifted down the shoreline, I started getting some really violent, but small, strikes on the bug. Then, I finally hooked up with a small LMB.

About 20 minutes later, I hooked up with a larger LMB.

The small fish made a pretty splashy hit on the bug, but the larger fish just barely sipped it down, go figure.

I finally started connecting with the fish that would really hit hard, for their small size. Green Sunfish. And a lot of them.

After a couple hours, I had managed to drift almost completely down that stretch of shoreline, and hit the first cove. About that time, the clouds moved off, the wind picked up, and the bite pretty much died. I rounded the corner into the small cover to escape the wind, and managed to pick up another Bluegill. This was a legitimate hookup, not a snag. How that little fish managed to get the point for a size 2 hook in its mouth is beyond me.

I decided to call it a day and trolled the minnowbait back to the ramp. Again, no takers. Water temp was 79.1?F, which is about 3 ? 4 degrees cooler than last week, according to Tom at the bait shop.


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Most overrated fly? [Archive] - Fly Fishing Forum

: Most overrated fly?

Dble Haul
03-29-2004, 10:08 AM
We constantly hear of what works in the way of fly patterns, and have our own experiences of success with certain types. But what in your experience is the most overrated fly? In other words, what fly is allegedly very good in a certain application but hasn't really done anything for you?

This question is for any type of flyfishing, for any species.

Willie Gunn
03-29-2004, 10:46 AM
It has to be the Ali Shrimp after all it is just a simplified dressing of a general Practictioneer. Now when you get Yellow/red whatever Alis give me patience.

03-29-2004, 10:48 AM
Any Fly tied By Dave Fix!:D :devil: :chuckle: ...Take it easy Dave...just kidding!

John Desjardins
03-29-2004, 10:56 AM
Hard foam or balsa poppers.

03-29-2004, 10:59 AM
Any beetle pattern. Hoppers and ants are a different story...;)

03-29-2004, 11:23 AM
Anything in saltwater with jungle cock.

The patented Teeny nymph.

Royal coachman.

Anything that has a person's name on it that the person himself coined. However, anything that has the persons name on it that others coined is usually under-rated.

03-29-2004, 11:42 AM
The patented Teeny nymph.

Royal coachman.

Used to 'swear by, now I 'swear at .....':devil:

John Desjardins
03-29-2004, 11:49 AM
Now that I think of it I don't think I've caught anything on a Royal Coachman either.

03-29-2004, 11:52 AM

03-29-2004, 11:52 AM
"patented" Teeny Nymph...I love it :hehe:

Othwise known as a "pheasant tail" which has been around since the dawn of flyfishing and is one of the deadliest patterns in the book!

North Island
03-29-2004, 12:23 PM
The Black Practitioner.

I have tied and lost hundreds and they have yet to produce!

In fact one summer day my wife was using an incredibly simple to tie Black Marabou Leech and I an exquisit example of a Black Practitioner. The summer run steelhead favoured the fly I could have tied with mittens on.

Dble Haul
03-29-2004, 12:32 PM
I've taken fish on a Royal Coachman streamer and Royal Coachman wet fly, but never on the dry version of it. That's definitely up there on my list.

I also have to list any deer hair bug that looks exactly like the prey it's supposed to imitate. If it's supposed to imitate a frog and looks like it just jumped off of a lily pad and into a flybin, it's almost useless in my book. I'll take impressionism over imitation any time with those patterns. Something that suggests life rather than painstakingly copying it.

03-29-2004, 01:01 PM
Usually if name is associated by the creator, usually a dud. Except the Brad's Brat and the Al's special. Have caught steelhead on both. But agreed on the royal coachman. Have caught fish on it, but have had better success with other patterns.

03-29-2004, 01:10 PM
Originally posted by striblue
Any Fly tied By Dave Fix!:D :devil: :chuckle: ...Take it easy Dave...just kidding!

03-29-2004, 01:49 PM
Muddler minnow - every box has one but none produce.

03-29-2004, 03:21 PM
Caught lots of trout on dry Royal Coachmans even the old fan wing versions.

Black Marabous are good, simple and effective.

Most overrated:

Steelhead skunk and GB skunk at least for me. Now a Black Bear Green Butt hair wing has worked but not a traditional white wing steelhead skunk hair wing, go figure.

Teeny Nymphs I guess them also but probably did not give them much of a chance after a half hour of nothing I am back to the old reliables like others.

03-29-2004, 04:14 PM
personaly i can't think of any flies that i have that haven't caught at least one fish for me

i'll get back to you on this

03-29-2004, 04:34 PM
Dahlberg Divers (style)
I kep tying them, fishing them, loosing them but I have yet to catch anything on THEM

03-29-2004, 04:53 PM
Muddler Minnow may be the one fly I would use if I was limited to one for all fresh water species. Well I would like to have it in a few colors though. its always been very successful for trout, salmon, and small mouth bass any way.

03-29-2004, 04:54 PM
Anything my brother in law ties.....,

03-29-2004, 05:26 PM
The most over-rated fly is the one you're fishing and ~not~ catching fish on! :devil: :devil:

03-29-2004, 08:40 PM
Most over rated steelhead by far is the green butt skunk

it's impossible for the muddler to be overrated it catches way to many fish..

Also for trout anything with cdc is WAY over rated also the Kaufmans stone nymph is over rated

03-29-2004, 09:59 PM
But river to river things can be different.

Fly #1: couldn't agree more;
Fly # 2: ditto
Fly #3: don't really know anyone 'down here' who uses cdc's;
Fly # 4: will take a LOT of fish on the upper Rogue. Probably local fav. right after the Otis Bug.

03-29-2004, 10:05 PM
THe GBS is not as bad as the ESL... at least it has a cooler name.

03-30-2004, 12:12 AM
For steelhead, I agree with roballen, the GB skunk is very overated. But if you put a black wing on it and make it a GB Black Bear, it is a very different animal.

For trout, the realistic stonefly nymphs. I tied and fished them for a couple of years back in the 70's, never caught a fish on one. I found the Charlies Brooks tied in-the-round stonefly nymphs were very effective.

Griffiths Gnat is not very good except if there is a lot of half-drowned Midges that haven't been able to fully extract themselves from the pupal shuck, and that is not a very common occurance.

I tie and fish the Ally's Shrimp and the G.P. and find the the Ally's is more effective in faster water and the G.P. more effective in slower water.

03-30-2004, 12:39 AM
In Defense of the "Royal Coachman"

I have only caught a few ( maybe 5) fish that were resident Rainbows in excess of 5 Pounds on a dry fly that was one of the various forms of a Royal Coachman. However I have been led by my own free spirit to test the limits of my abilitys to catch very large Steelheads on the surface with various versions of the "RoyalCoachmen.".
One of these attempts was on the Thompson River at Spences Bridge. It was a late afternoon in mid November I had been on the water since early in the morning and had been doing well not only this day but for several before, on occasion the "T" would reward those who put in there time on her waters!
This particular day I was fishing a Royal Coachman as I had been for the last three weeks. ("To be continued" )
I started this affair with the Royal Coachman in Northern B.C. in the Skeena Country and was just fishing my way South from Alaska. I had arrived at Spences Bridge on the 27th of September after a wonderful time on the Skeena River.
My good Friend Wes Drain had passed away recently and I had decided to fish only the Skunk for the fall season as he was the originator of that pattern and I had chosen to do this in his memory... As i fished my way South I realised that Wes and I were not entirely amused at how this was going.
Simply stated it doesn't matter who your friends, are or what there patterns are, the fish do not really care! I was tired of catching fish on black and white flies.
I arrived on the Thompson and decided that I would fish just one other pattern for the remainder of the season. It was the only other pattern that I had personally disscussed with Wes, the Royal Coachman.
Now it so happens that I arrived at Johns Rock about a half hour before Dark. The only other person there was Bob York it was not a dead heat to the water but Bob was walking with a two handed (over hand 17.5') 11 wt with a sink tip and "I " was fishing a 11' 8wt that required but 1 hand and the fly would be on top of the water.
. Bob being the easy going fellow that few others ever new suggested that I take the bottom half of Johns Rock. (I guess that meant he wanted the top half).
Bob went up! I waded out to position myself slightly upstream of the "Three rock set" a tough wade to be sure but not for the Thompsom regulars as myself. I waded up to my jacket pockets as was the norm and took my fly from the keeper.
There was a slight wind at my back and this was good as the three rock set was a good 115' from where I stood. I doubt the wind was more than 10 MPH ( I still do not know meters). I was casting a Cortland Line that was 115' with a 12' leader and the backing knot was about 6" beyond the reel when the cast was complete.
I gave the fly line a hefty toss to mend the fly over the closest of the three rocks (the one that was nearest to the main force of the river) There arose a "Huge bulge" in the surface film as a steelhead of great size rose to the surface and engulfed my "Royal Coachman". The huge Buck headed straight away for the mouth of the Nicola.
I really do not know how many times he jumped as I was headed towards the Spur and was trying desperatley to get my Cleats off as I knew the fish would soon follow.
Somewhere between where I hooked this Buck and the head of the Spur Bar it jumped (I'm told another dozen times) I myself was just trying to get my stream cleats off and run as fast as I could down stream!
When I made it to the top of the Spur I was dissapointed in that the fish was obviously entangled in the large rocks at the head of the pool. I had taken my stream cleats off at the bottom of Johns Rock thats a long way from the head of the spur (ouch). I waded slowly out to where the fish was "hung up" and I was astounded that I could all but reach down and touch it. The fish was not hung up it was just BIG and was not interested in me or my little Royal Coachman Fly.
The Spur is a good long pool of maybe 300 yards any way the fish decided to use the rest of the pool in his next run and jump sequence. Probably jumped less than a dozen times and only ran from the bottom of the Spur to the top once! I'll bet that the whole distance is close to a mile from GRAB to when I put my tape on the fish about 5 minutes later
Thompson River Royal Coachman on the surface there are several formulas for weight re. steelheads I always say the good ones are memorable. : 40.25X 25.75
You don't beleive in the "Royal Coachman" you must be a Metro Sexual":devil:

03-30-2004, 01:38 AM
Wonderful story Moonlight...absolutely wonderful! :)

03-30-2004, 05:28 AM
Ken Abrames flat wing flies. Well I have done it . I will probably get flamed by all the Moonies. I think that these flies are overrated. I have seen Moonies fish with these flies even when they are not working and refuse to use a Clouser when it's working. They are expensive to tie and for me are not the super killer fly that the Creator claims they are. Just my .02

03-30-2004, 07:22 AM
Mr FishHawk...
Please contact: ASAP for further instructions and "reassignment"...
It was nice knowing you! :D

John Desjardins
03-30-2004, 08:45 AM
Sprocket, The prototypical muddlers sold in shops do not work well in the Northeast IMHO. it just doesn't match the forrage. However tie them unweighted with white or brown maribou and a smaller head and its a different story.

03-30-2004, 09:09 AM
Moonlight -

After reading your lucid account of the very spot where I landed my first Thompson steelhead, I nearly jumped out of my leather pants and Gucci shoes, spilling my double half-caf vanilla latte on my silk blazer. HAHA

Seriously I loved the story yet I think you'd agree that any dry skated with the same caddissy (is that a word?) suggestive colors, including a muddler (muddlers were named as well) would have brought that fish to the skating presentation and in fact the fly itself, however credible with magical abilities in this context, was not in and of itself critical to hooking that buck.

Besides a fly can not be over-rated unless it's highly rated to begin with, and a steelhead coachman is not a highly rated fly so to your point perhaps it's under-rated.

For the record, I named the coachman in the context of trout flies and trout fishing, where despite my own passion for steelhead and John's Rock I do feel the 'trout' coachman is an over-rated fly for trout primarily because it is so highly rated in flyfishing lore.

Although it's a great thread one problem here is the interplay of perspectives - some guys are trouters, some die-hard steelhead swingers, some salty strip-retrievers. It's interesting but does create ambiguity FWIW.

The muddler (my variant the 'sedge' muddler) is one of my top flies for summer steelhead, my toenails curl thinking about some of the torpedo takes I've had from bright summer searun rainbows in the teens (pounds of course) on a flopping muddler in bright June rivers on Cascade Mtn rivers in Washington state... yet I could see how some would think it to be a 'dud' on a Vermont spring creek.

03-30-2004, 09:29 AM
Juro I agree that any fly would have worked I guess that was the point!
John D that marabou backside Muddler is a scary fly definitely "Under Rated" . I'm almost afraid to click on that witness protection sight what with Home Land Security and the NSA snooping around:D .

03-30-2004, 11:01 AM
Assuming this thread is mostly tongue in cheek I'll offer my thoughts...

My meagher experience, for where I've been fishing over the last several years, suggest anything other than a Clouser or Clouser varient is highly overated.

I find the jungle cock eyes to be attractive and durable on the flatwings I tied last year. On the other hand these flies were not molested by many fish so I'm not so sure about the durability.

Fishhawk, you broke a couple of Vito's rules and proverbs. To paraphrase:

"Never let anybody outside the family know what your thinking"

"Keep your friends close and your enimies closer"

03-30-2004, 12:06 PM
Following on from an earlier theme - anything that looks perfect out of the water is over-rated:devil:

03-30-2004, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by Adrian
Following on from an earlier theme - anything that looks perfect out of the water is over-rated:devil:

I noticed at the fly shows this year that you can almost tell the casual visitor fromt the avid fishermen by the flies they pick up. It was uncanny that almost without exception the flies that looked cool (the more elaborate the better) but were not neccessarily what I would consider to be a fishing tool were the most popular with the newcomer or casual spectator.

Oh and I think the deep eel is the most overrated fly!:tsk_tsk:

03-30-2004, 04:47 PM
Have to agree on the royal coachman, but not on the beetle. Out west here they are deadly. Also agree on the muddler. It is more of a throw back then a good fly, for that matter any atlantic salmon full dressed pattern. They are nice to look at but not to fish with

04-02-2004, 10:15 PM
This will definitely get at you. A Clouser. Its rod kill rate exceeds the total kill rate of the USAF in WW2. Its dangerous and bloody awful for beginners, yet people keep on shoving it at newbys.
It might be a very productive fly, in the hands of good casters, but thats not the whole story. The most productive version is a fluoro chartruse model, which is obviously obvious.
Its really a jig, and works very well on light spin gear. I'm not very picky about flies, but if a light castable spoon, the Spoon Flee, is not a fly then neither is a Clouser. Sorry Bob. Max

04-03-2004, 05:38 AM
This is an interesting thread. Some posts are true to the initial question, others have strayed but they are all interesting.

If we were to take a moment to define "over-rated" I would venture:

The general perception by the public far exceeds it's actual effectiveness.

Or something like that. :p

So therefore, in order to qualify for over-rated, we should assign a rating, 1-10 for (a) reputation and also for (b) effectiveness.

Reputation is subjective and would require averaging of many opinions (region, species, fresh/salt, etc).

Effectiveness is diluted by those who do not use the fly for it's design intent and we should ignore improper applications of the pattern (trying to fish a bunny dry, etc).

So let's take the controversial clouser for a first fly. The perception rating is probably about an 8, all told. That is to say 8 out of 10 with a valid opinion (proper application of fly) favor the fly and act on this by keeping it in their box.

The effectiveness rating is about 7, I would guess. Meaning that it's not the best, it's not the worst, but it's two ticks higher than average.

Therefore the rating and the effectiveness is very close togehter and I would conclude it is NOT over-rated however it is loved by some and hated by others, which lowers it's rating making it less likely to be over-rated. Let's not confuse controversy with rating.

Now lets apply this to the muddler, another controversial fly in this thread. It's rating for reputation is about a 9, and it's effectiveness rating is about 6 when considering all venues (western rivers, salmon, river bass, eastern trout, warmwater) and all other alternative patterns for the application. It's gap is also moderately close, so I would argue that it's not over-rated at all.

I would suggest that if you really want to provide a good example of an over-rated fly, provide the perception rating # and the effectiveness rating # based on design intent of the fly.

Those flies with a big gap (high/low) are truly over-rated. Otherwise it's just venting pet peeves, which is OK but of questionable valuable in actually determining over-rating of flies.

Dble Haul
04-03-2004, 08:49 AM
Yes, and let's please not turn this into one of those "what is or is not a fly" threads.....I seem to remember a certain troublemaker a few years ago who started such a thread, and I think he should have been banned. :p :devil:

04-03-2004, 06:59 PM
I think there is a valid argument about what constitutes a fly and what doesn't, but it's just opinion. I usually say that if you can cast it successfully on fly fishing tackle, it's a fly. I agree that a Clouser in the right place can be a good fly, for those who are not just entering the sport, or are short of funds to keep on buying rods. We are not all high flyers, nor are we well publicised gurus, and not all of us can break a rod a week, or two per day because the sponsor's can find another dozen post haste.
I think if we had a post which was titled, "Have you clousered your pet rod, and how many have you destroyed???" you might get a shock because there are a lot of beginners and old hands out there with loose pieces of graphite floating around. I can't cast all that well, and cannot afford to break rods, so Clousers are not in my fly box.
I regard flies as useful if they are easy to tie, catch fish of many species in many places, easy to cast and do not damage rods etc.
There are a lot of good flies like that, and a few which are disasters.
I think it's a valid point, but I understand that it will draw the flies.
Cheers Max

Greg Pavlov
04-03-2004, 08:05 PM
Originally posted by Sprocket
Muddler minnow - every box has one but none produce.
Same for me, but I'm thinkin' that with the Gobi infestation in Lake Erie, dark muddlers *should* be great for smallmouth.

Dble Haul
04-05-2004, 08:09 AM
Max- FYI, I was poking fun at myself in that last post. ;)

04-05-2004, 11:03 AM
Hey Mark, are you admitting an indescretion, or is it just stirring the pot. Join the club, that makes two of us. VBG. Max

04-05-2004, 11:43 AM
I have to say dry flies...mostly because it takes soooooooooooo long to tie them and then I almst never catch anything with them.:(

04-05-2004, 02:49 PM
Any fly that a steelhead was just caught with is over rated. We all know it is not the fly but the presentation.

04-06-2004, 12:51 PM
I have caught many trout on royal cochman dries in fact the ones I have left are chewed beyond recognition,time to tie more. also I would not be caught anywhere without my foam ant patterns exspeciely late in the season beetles also have a spot in my box.As for muddlers have had awsom action fishing them dry and wet. I think the dry fly I have caught the most trout on is the adams dry size 12-14. As for the salt cant beat Juros eel almost never take it off!! also grocrey flies in pink colors. As for overated patterns large wulff hair drys but have used them succsesfully for L.L salmon in fast water. I think alot of patterns and I am sure alot of you will agree are made to catch anglers not fish! I tend to fish more traditional patterns for trout. But is is fun to try new and different ( some times obscure) patterns.Some of the places I fish in northern maine it is a blast to use some of the strangest patterns in your box and you will be surprised at how wild brook trout will react:hehe:

04-08-2004, 05:00 PM
sorry for any misspelling....
a few poopoo's regarding the clouser and it's reputation as a rod destroying machine... while i certainly don't fish them exclusively, i've fished them enough to think i may have seen such a concern. and i haven't. and i think a big part of that "problem" and concern/reputation, and something that was touched on earlier in this thread/another, is the wide variety of "tying styles" in the commercial and pvt. clouser ties that are out there. in a fly fisherman magazine article i saw once, bob and the article's author lamented that too many of the clousers out there are poorly tied, meaning that the eyes and materials, both in quantity/density of hair and length were so often poorly matched, resulting in the casting abominations that many have talked about here. properly tied, with the right balance of eye weight, eye position on the hook (one of the most overlooked sins i've seen in commercial ties) and the length and density of hair material used is crucial to the performance of the fly, both in casting and fishing/in-the-water. i tied them with some of the heaviest lead eyes available, properly matched to the hook and hair length/density (per Bob C.'s instructions) and have never had problems with crashing into rods/back of my head/a$$/etc. true, your loop needs to open up a bit, but not to an extreme that casting performance is compromised. my $.02....
as far as over rated, i don't think so; like every fly, there are times when it's appropriate and versatile, and times when it isn't. but you can't argue with the fact that it has and continues to catch such a HUGE variety of fish species, fresh and saltwater, over a variety of fishing conditions. not many other flies out there that have demonstrated that kind of versatility!!!

04-09-2004, 07:19 AM
Well mebbe so, and I agree it catches fish, but it's not for every body and particularly newby's to the fly casting game. There are a few really good flies, that work everywhere, in fresh and salt water, out there and some are going to still be in use in the next century, if there are fish to catch. I guess a clouser, properly constructed and fished might be one of those, if it's Flourescent chartruse. Max

04-09-2004, 08:14 AM
Feiger -

You make an excellent point. When 6" of ultrahair is matched with a 7/32" tungsten eye about 1/2" back from the far end of the eye on a 1/0 811s TMC hook, the balance is good enough to create no sensation of slingshotting and very little air resistance. The only reason I use a weighted eye is to make the hook ride up on the shallow flats. This is a key design aspect for bonefish flies as well. Being a sight fishing dude on Cape Cod's flats a fly that rides hook up is often critical.

Besides, hitting oneself or the rod is a sign of dangerous casting style, most likely casting on the same side as the wind or casting with a vertical rod angle as opposed to the outward canted angle. Striped bass fishermen are a large community here on the northeast atlantic coast and the majority have learned to deal with crossing winds by casting their backcast in this situation. Two-handed afficionados (growing population) often use a cross-body cast which when performed with two hands throws a fierce loop with little energy, or puts the left hand up depending on preference.

Tying a balanced fly while dealing with wind conditions properly ensures that neither the rod nor the angler will be hit by the fly.

Robert Meiser
04-09-2004, 10:40 AM
While attending an FFF tying event a few years ago, I listened in on a heavy discussion concerning the Royal Coachman.

When the final tally was in on exactly what the Royal Coachman was.... Dave Roberts really nailed it......Explaing in great detail that the Royal Coachman is actually an adult Prince Nymph.

The Teeny Nymph was the first larval phase insect destined to emerge in a bubble pack......I've always assumed as a "Skykomish Flies" Drake.

"Lamire Fall Caddis...Lamire Greased Liner" and the "Quigley Cripple" are three named flies that I will ALWAYS have in my box.

...And I gotta admit that Poly's "Fuzzy Nymph" will always drew a pleasant Ruebenesque visual......!!!

04-09-2004, 06:27 PM
Easy Meiz! We, uh, middle-aged guys need to be careful about the thoughts we may have about "fuzzy nymphs". Something statutory I believe can get in the way.

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The walls of Poly Rosborough's tying room in his Chiloquin trailer were legendary....Proudly papered with fold-up "Fuzzy Nymphs"

My friend Jim Long filmed the video: "Tying the Fuzzy Nymph", and did so in Poly's home.

The back drop of the shooting area needed a few adjustments to keep it suitable for family viewing.....};^).....!!!

Many of the old timers in Down State Oregon always have some great stories to share about Poly.

I only had a chance to meet him a few times....Quite a guy....And truly an inventive tyer whose patterns still hold true if fished right.

His drowned Hex will still clobber the big boys on the Williamson !

04-09-2004, 08:31 PM

I've heard that about Polly from some other folk over the years. I only got the opportunity to see him tie at a gathering once. I do like his flies a lot because they are so darned effective when tied correctly. Unfortunately, too many folks tie his flies too purty and they loose their effectiveness.

As for the "fold-up fuzzy nymphs", you know we married folk have no need for such accoutrements.:devil:

05-01-2004, 05:35 PM
The coachman and bright Flor. bass poppers

05-03-2004, 12:55 PM
Mickey Finn.:
I know that it is supposed to be such a great brook trout fly and takes landlocked and slink salmon in New Brunswick (NB), but I have never caught a thing on it. I have given it a fair test too. I think I foul hooked a gaspereau on one once. My father loved Mickey Finns but he grew up in NB in the 40s and 50s when there were a lot more fish than there are now.

05-08-2004, 03:10 AM
the gbs is the best flie when tied low water on the snake and grand ronde until it gets colder than 45 degrees. what is the esl? english second language or extra special liver?

05-08-2004, 07:21 AM
ESl = egg sucking leech aka lawyer fly. LOL

05-09-2004, 03:13 AM
those big stonefly nymphs. all i do is leave them on the bottom of rivers.


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Eva was one of three children born to Jewish parents in Vertujeni, a Bessarabian town that was 90 percent Jewish. Eva attended a public school. Her family was religious, attending synagogue every day. Eva's father made his living as a kosher butcher, preparing chicken according to Jewish dietary laws.

1933-39: In 1936, when Eva was 15 years old, her family moved to Vysoka, where she later got a job as a seamstress. Vysoka was very different from her hometown. There were only about 15 Jewish families in Vysoka and Eva believed that people were less tolerant of Jews. While there were not any fights, tensions ran high.

1940-44: Eva married in 1940, the year the USSR annexed Bessarabia. Her husband was drafted into the Red Army a year later when Germany attacked the USSR. Eva, pregnant, remained in Vysoka and was deported with the town's Jews by the Romanian army, allies of the Germans. The Jews were marched for days without food or water. One day in a forest, the soldiers raped some of the girls. In the Vertujeni transit camp, Eva gave birth on the floor, without a doctor. A week later, during a march to Transnistria, her baby died.

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