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<civodul>nckx: weird, worth reporting
<nckx>Am I cursed? I'm cursed, aren't I.
<nckx>I'll do so if it's reproducible.
<viivien>I don’t understand why my SSL_CERT_DIR variable is set to /run/current-system/profile/etc/ssl/certs:/run/current-system/profile/etc/ssl/certs (thus, breaking guile’s web client). The "fix" is to define export GUILE_TLS_CERTIFICATE_DIRECTORY="/run/current-system/profile/etc/ssl/certs" in my profile, because it has precedence, but I think that’s wrong.
<viivien>Do you have only one entry in SSL_CERT_DIR on your own machine?
<viivien>Or do you have a duplicated one, like me?
<viivien>Do you have nss-certs installed globally (in config.scm)? In your profile?
<nckx>Only in my operating-system packages.
<viivien>Same :(
<viivien>The variable is untouched by .guix-profile/etc/profile
<nckx>Yes, I was just testing whether sourcing those made it happen (it didn't).
<viivien>It is set by /run/current-system/profile/etc/profile
<ixmpp>Guys what package gives me `man strncmp` etc?
<nckx>Probably man-pages.
<nckx>viivien: To the incorrect version?
<nckx>It adds no colon here and doesn't append to an existing value.
<ixmpp>nckx: <3
<viivien>No, it is set to export SSL_CERT_DIR="${GUIX_PROFILE:-/gnu/store/v7yks560hnm9zkjw1ynsavfdgwbvkq9w-profile}/etc/ssl/certs${SSL_CERT_DIR:+:}$SSL_CERT_DIR"
<viivien>So there’s another leak somewhere else
<nckx>But here it's export SSL_CERT_DIR="${GUIX_PROFILE:-/gnu/store/1az7h58qbj3zi3j6bncr64y0axrvv2sj-profile}/etc/ssl/certs"
<nckx>No appendage.
<nckx>Recently fixed bug or weird conditional at generation time?
<raghavgururajan>> nckx: raghavgururajan: Ah, OK, so it was a ‘real’ error.
<raghavgururajan>I started getting it after a recent git pull. Before that there wasn't such error. May be some qt-based changes made in master, after I sent the v7 patch-set.
<dstolfa>nckx: so uh, did my email go to the list or did it just go to the recipients? i could have sworn i replied to guix-devel too
<dstolfa>according to it's missing. trying to diagnose if that's on my part or the mailing list
<viivien>nckx, OK I finally found it.
<viivien>When I remove the cuirass service, the profile line is correct
<ixmpp>Naughty cuirass
<nckx>dstolfa: Done.
<viivien>So, my guess is that cuirass, even if I don’t install it, pollutes my global environment!
<dstolfa>nckx: thanks!
<nckx>raghavgururajan: Yes, qt-utils caused a bit of fallout.
<dstolfa>on that note, has anyone figured out exactly why?
<dstolfa>i dug a bit but i realized i would need to understand qt-utils to find it
<dstolfa>which... i don't :)
<raghavgururajan>nckx: Let me know if v9 looks good to you. I'll push it. :)
<robin__>Howd, #Guix. I managed to break my IceCat with Guix refresh a while back, and now fonts won't load lol.
<dstolfa>robin__: is this on guix system or a foreign distro?
<nckx>viivien: Yep. (service-extension profile-service-type …). At least here it's for a better reason than ‘you'll love this service so much you must want it in your profile’. Not sure how to fix it, and spinning too many plates already.
<nckx>s/it/it's commands/
<robin__>This is a foreign distro
<nckx>Here, it's for the info page so OK maybe I guess.
<dstolfa>robin__: hm, i recall having issues with that on trisquel, i think i just installed the recommended fonts and it just worked again. it's been a while so i don't remember :(
<southerntofu>hey folks is there a tool (or is someone working on one) to guix import dependencies from Cargo.toml instead of
<southerntofu>this is useful for software that's not (or not yet) published on, or is outdated there
<southerntofu>maybe cc jsoo (hi)
<leoprikler>thing is, Cargo.toml is not really a good source
<leoprikler>there's way too much going on in there
<leoprikler>other than that I think you'd have to start from square zero by writing a toml parser in Guile
<leoprikler>though with the ongoing work for python's new build system, you can probably soon take one for granted
<robin__>I notice refresh keeps failing due to rate-limiting by github
<dstolfa>robin__: that's certainly a possibility
<dstolfa>not sure what can be done about it, though :/
<robin__>GTK warns me the locale is "not supported by C library." When booting IceCat
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<robin__>Is it possible to make Guix finish if it fails to connect to Github? It also prevented linting.
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<nckx>dstolfa: You can set a token if you have an account. There's no way around the rate limit without one.
<nckx>Oh, robin__.
<Noisytoot>nckx, You can connect from another IP
<Noisytoot>use Tor
<nckx>*reasonable way. ☺
<nckx>GitHub doesn't block Tor?
<nckx>I'm low-key surprised.
*nckx will never grump about #mesonbuild again because their community is ridiculously helpful. Still: use autotools. But *if* you misplaced your floppy, maybe Meson's not so bad.
<The_tubular>Any reported Issue with the .iso on guix website ?a
<The_tubular>I got pass grub screen then it tells me : "waiting for partition 31390 .... "
<Noisytoot>nckx, I've cloned GitHub repositories via Tor
<nckx>Cool! Still, running a tor service just to be able to lint is a few bridges too far for me.
<nckx>The_tubular: Noo, and someone reported success with the ‘latest’ ISO only yesterday. Which one?
<The_tubular>What do you mean which one ?
<The_tubular>I just grabbed the ISO from the website 10 minutes ago
<nckx>Latest or 1.3.0?
<The_tubular>1.3.0 which is latest ...?
<nckx>Latest is
<nckx>Second in the top dropdown Download menu.
<nckx>1.3.0 is the stable release.
<The_tubular>I used that one :
<The_tubular>Booted in BIOS mode
<nckx>Hm. That one definitely ‘boots’.
<The_tubular>Got into grub
<nckx>Sounds like Linux is not finding your live medium (CD or USB).
<nckx>Bit weird.
<The_tubular>No, I booted into guix
<nckx>I didn't say you didn't.
<nckx>Try the ‘latest’ image then.
<The_tubular>I tried on 2 computers, and got the same problem
<nckx>Both BIOS?
<The_tubular>I mean, it dropped me in a shell, can I ignore that porblem and move on with the installation
<The_tubular>Yeah, both bios
<nckx>Wait wait. Is it stuck "waiting for partition 31390 .... ", or are you at a (bash) shell prompt.
<The_tubular>I though I was stuck at that, then it dropped me to a shell
<The_tubular>A guile shell I think
<nckx>> Sounds like Linux is not finding your live medium (CD or USB).
<nckx>ls /dev and see.
<nckx>Wait, first type ,bournish.
<nckx>Then ls /dev
<nckx>You should see your <device containing the Guix installer> there, whatever it is (e.g., sr0 for a CD, sdb or so for USB, …).
<The_tubular>A lot of output, there's like 30 disk connected to this machine
<nckx>RAID array?
<The_tubular>ZFS raid, yes
<The_tubular>Can I launch the installer from where I am ?
<nckx>Well (not trying to be funny) check if there are 30 or 31 devices, I guess.
<nckx>No, you're in the initrd.
<nckx>And it (probably: the kernel) can't find the device with the root file system by UUID.
<The_tubular>I can't scroll up, got like 90 ttys, filling up my screen too
<nckx>Bah, silly Linus removed terminal scrollback in 5.xx :-/
<The_tubular>I frogot what would my USB devices be named as ?
<The_tubular>sdx ?
<nckx>I don't even know what ‘modern Linux’ names SCSI devices after 26 (sdz?).
<The_tubular>But why is this happening on 2 machines ?
<The_tubular>Is my USB key dying ?
<nckx>I honestly don't know. They must have something in common. If I had a BIOS machine I'd test it.
<The_tubular>rufus only gives me the option for bios
<Noisytoot>The_tubular, use dd
<The_tubular>I only have a Winblows machine alive right now :/
<nckx>Oh. It is *extremely* likely that this is due to Rufus. I don't think it does the equivalent of simply dd'ing the bits.
<nckx>Doesn't Winblows come with a blowy subsystem for dd?
<nckx>Not that I know what ‘sdb’ is on Windows. You wouldn't want to overwrite your Windows drive with Guix. That would be soooo sad.
<nckx>This sounds like the much safer suggestion than either that or Rufus:
*raghavgururajan is making espresso with new beans from Brazil
<dstolfa>can guix offload to foreign distros? i assume it can as long as the daemon is running, right?
<nckx>Enjoy friend.
<nckx>dstolfa: Yes!
<dstolfa>nckx: nice, thanks!
<The_tubular>lol nckx "sooo bad" :P
<dstolfa>another, perhaps more interesting question: if i have a guix-jupyter notebook and i `guix pack` that, or perhaps even make a docker container out of it, will others be able to just run the docker container with the guix kernel in the jupyter playbook?
<dstolfa>if so, i assume that would also work on macos and windows then as docker spawns a linux VM there... which means i could distribute this playbook to colleagues and never worry about a thing
<dstolfa>(once i get guix-jupyter working, of course, it's still timing out)
<dstolfa>too much ansible for me
<nckx>I wish I could answer that.
*nckx knows some of those words.
<ss2>Just reading through the Guix Home docs. That'll be a huge step forward for Guix once it hits upstream.
<dstolfa>nckx: that's fine, i can just try it myself once i manage to get the damn guix kernel running properly in my environment
<dstolfa>i must be cursed
<raghavgururajan>drakonis: Any luck with GTK v4 (#48554)?
<drakonis>ah i was busy today
<raghavgururajan>No worries at all!
<podiki[m]>question: when you submit a patch or bug report, do you not get replies via email by default? do you have to sign up somewhere to the whole list?
<raghavgururajan>nckx: mbakke mentioned to me a while ago that GnuTLS is preferred over openssl, in Guix. Shall I push the following patch to core-updates?
<nckx>What was the advantage to having two TLS libraries as inputs in the first place?
<raghavgururajan>nckx: The apps that depend on glib-net can either choose or
<raghavgururajan>Apps <--> Glib-Net <--> GnuTLS/OpenSSL
<nckx>And nothing currently in Guix chooses glib-net… LGTM then.
<raghavgururajan>No. I added if so there are any future cases.
<nckx>Let's deal with theme if (ever) needed.
<raghavgururajan>jgart: Were you able to run bitmask on NixOS?
<raghavgururajan>s/bitmask/bitmask with polikit/
<The_tubular>I have yet another problem with the installer media :/
<The_tubular>I'm at the part where the installer asks to choose an Ethernet connection
<The_tubular>I've got 4 NICs, so I unplugged 3 so I could just choose the right one and it still says that it does not have an internet connection
<The_tubular>Any ideas ?
<ecbrown>yes reboot with other three unplugged
<The_tubular>Let me try that
<ecbrown>yes and if they are usb dongles unplug them too
<The_tubular>Rebooting didn't work
<The_tubular>But I still have 2 interfaces show in the gui
<ecbrown>that can happen and yet the hardware is not supported
<ecbrown>i am a witness to that gui options and still wont work
<The_tubular>What ?
<ecbrown>sorry, e.g. on my macbook pro i can plug in thunderbolt ethernet adaptor . it is presented as network option in gui, but it is not a supported peripheral
<ecbrown>what are the "nics" you are talking about? wireless probably wont work
<The_tubular>No, it's a dell server
<The_tubular>Nothing wireless
<ecbrown>ok, thanks for the info. fyi my hp proliants do not have working ethernet under linux-libre
<ecbrown>i had to install them with usb dongle
<The_tubular>I don't have a USB dongle :(
<ecbrown>(these are beast multiple nic blades)
<The_tubular>How can I tell if my NICs are officially supported or not ?
<The_tubular>On linux-libre ?
<ecbrown>trial and error is the only way
<The_tubular>Are you 100% sure this is the issue ?
<The_tubular>Also, why is there 2 choice of NICs, while only 1 is plugged in ?
<ecbrown>i am 100% sure that i had to use a usb dongle on the service port of my enterprise blades
<The_tubular>Damn :(
<The_tubular>That's not a blade server though, it's a powerdge 720
<The_tubular>If that matters
<ecbrown>well, it has some fancy pants nics that are meant to be bonded
<ecbrown>they're not e1000's
<ecbrown>10 giga
*ecbrown steps away for fireworks
<The_tubular>Does that mean I'll have to compile the whole kernel ?
<apteryx>ecbrown: happy independence day
<apteryx>(my guess ;-))
<apteryx>is anyone else having this problem with emms in Emacs: whenever I use ungoogled-chromium or another sound application, it stops being able to output sound itself?
<wirez>why trademark guix? isn't that infringing?
<nckx>wirez: At least one developer was made aware and didn't seem to care. I doubt Microsoft is interested in the trademark.
<ecbrown>apteryx: thanks! it was a nice show
<wirez>gnu should defend it
<wirez>or fsf or whatever
<nckx>Defend what?
<wirez>it's gonna dillute searches and make adoption harder
<wirez>guix trademark
<nckx>I think that would be a terrible idea.
<nckx>What if we lost?
<wirez>atleast you tried
<nckx>…and lost.
<nckx>Then we'll have to call it Sneek or something stupid.
<nckx>It doesn't seem to have hurt us much so far, wirez.
<wirez>it was a few days ago
<wirez>whatever if you dont care i dont
<nckx>I don't think the people calling it GUIX do so because of an old Renesas product ☺
<nckx>What was a few days ago, wirez?
<The_tubular>I'm having trouble with this Sneeze Linux Distribution /s
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<raghavgururajan>nckx: Hope I am not bothering you too much. Were you able to build bitmask? If v9 (#48729) looks good to you, let me know and I'll push it.
<The_tubular>Umm, I borked my installation again I think ...
<The_tubular>I installed it with UEFI I'm pretty sure.
<The_tubular>Yet I can only boot with BIOS
<The_tubular>When I try to boot with UEFI, it doesn't detect grub
<The_tubular>During the install, there was a EFI partition on my disk, so it should be UEFI right ?
<The_tubular>Also, when I booted with BIOS, I had internet access ... I'm so confuzzled
*The_tubular hurts itself in it's own confusion...!
<The_tubular>I'll go take some sleep, I'll be back tomorrow!
<Guest27>Hi! I'm very interested in using Guix. Is it ok to ask beginner-level questions here?
<zap1>Guest27: yes this is all things guix channel
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<Guest27>zap: Awesome :)
<Guest27>Suppose I need to quickly run a program that hasn't been packaged in Guix yet and I don't have the time/skills to package it myself. Is there a way to make it "just work"?
<Guest27>I tried to find a clear-cut answer to this but my Google-fu has failed me
<zap>It depends on which kind of program. You can still do 'pip install --user x' or 'npm install x' or 'go get x' etc and then modify PATH to use it
<zap>you can do preety much everything you would do on other distros if you had same problem. But with additional possibiliy to painlessly manage your own guix packages once you gain some practical skills
<Guest27>That's very reassuring, thanks! Where can I read more about this? I thought it would be really easy to find info on this but maybe I'm just not looking into the right places...
<maximed>or the usual "./configure --prefix=$HOME/stuff && make && make install; ~/stuff/bin/stuff", assuming you have installed the right tools
<zap>Guest27: There are two main sources of docs -- Guix Reference, and Guix Cookbook. You can access it on Guix website or with info command
<zap>there is also a great video series on guix
<zap>And the guix blog of course
<zap>another good resource:
<Guest27>Thank you! I've seen the reference and the blog, but not the others, so I'm gonna do that.
<Guest27>A more concrete question: I've been using NixOS for a few days and i ran into an issue where I get a "permission denied" error when a package from pip tries to write to a harcoded directory (like /home/<user>/<dotfile>). What would happen if I tried to run the same package in Guix using the method you said?
<Guest27>(And, by the way, how would I "modify the PATH to use it" as you said above?)
<solene>Guest27: that's a weird issue, are you sure you didn't miss --user in pip install command?
<zap>Yeah... I think NixOS should't restrict access to your home
<solene>it doesn't
<Guest27>Sorry, I forgot to say two important things
<zap>PATH is the environment variable that is used by your shell to know where to get executables. You can check it with `echo $PATH`
<efraim>it looks like grpc@1.16 needs an older protobuf, I'm testing the downgrade of its protobuf now
<Guest27>I didn't use `pip install`, but rather wrote a `shell.nix` using the pythonPackage function
<zap>Guest27: usually one sets it in .bash_profile or .bashrc
<Guest27>And the user that appeared in the path wasn't my own but rather "nixbld"
*zap there is also ~/.profile and I always forget which is which and endup with bloated .bashrc
<Guest27>But regardless of the cause of the error, from what I'm reading this should work in Guix then
<solene>Guest27: ah it's really different then, indeed a package definition should write on $HOME
<Guest27>zap: I know what PATH is, but I don't understand what I have to change to make `pip install --user` work in the solution you gave me
<zap>ah something like: export PYTHONBIN="$HOME/.local/bin"; export PATH="$PYTHONBIN:$PATH"
<zap>but it's language-package-manage-manager specific, they all put /bin in different places so you'll have to check
*zap haha language-package-manage-manager this is partially what guix is
<boeg>What package(s) do I need to be able to work with fat32 drives in e.g. parted?
<Guest27>zap: Got it! Thank you!
<zap>boeg: maybe dosfstools?
<boeg>zap: ah, perhaps, ill try!
<bricewge>boeg: Did you managed to use sysctl-service-type as you wanted?
<bricewge>I tried reproducing it yesterday, but I didn't managed to. It worked correctly without adding a requirements on "root-filesystem".
<boeg>bricewge: nope, not reliably at least. There is a myth that says, it works some times, and I swear that I have seen it work at least once, but right now, when I check, it doesn't work
<bricewge>Can you manage to build guix locally?
<bricewge>If so you could try the patch by yourself and see if it does fix it
<bricewge>I can't myself since I can't manage to trigger it
<bricewge>Does every package phases still need to return a boolean?
<boeg>I guess I can build guix locally? When I reconfigure based off my config.scm, I guess it uses a substitute for guix, right, so I don't think I've tried building guix, but I guess I could
<maximed>boeg: "guix build $PACKAGE --no-substitutes"
<maximed>and "guix system reconfigure ... --no-substitutes
<maximed>bricewge: Phases don't need to return booleans anymore, though you'll get a warning anyways until core-updates is merged
<bricewge>boeg: Cool, you need to follow 16.1 et 16.2 from the manual
<bricewge>maximed: Thanks
<bricewge>The warning got me confused
<boeg>maximed, bricewge: Ill write your comments down a give it a try next time I'm wrestling with this problem
<maximed>boeg: It is also possible to configure the daemon to _not_ accept substitutes from bordeaux.guix...., ci.guix.... (in case passing --no-substitutes every time is cumbersome)
<boeg>maximed: good to know
<maximed>See the 'authorize-key?', 'authorized-keys', 'use-substitutes?' and 'substitute-urls' fields of 'guix-service-type'
<southerntofu>leoprikler: thanks but that's precisely because a lot happens in Cargo.toml that an automated importer would be helpful! in particular when some dependencies are in the same repository and not published on (see zola SSG for example)
<leoprikler>What you're saying essentially boils down to "I want something, that simplifies this mess, because hoo boy,is it complicated", which is a sentiment one can get behind, but at the same time also the reason no one has both tried and been able to simplify it.
<southerntofu>sorry i'm pretty new to guix and guile, otherwise it's not so hard it's all specified here:
<southerntofu>to be fair the crates importer is awesome and worked fine once i got out of weird errors (no output) because of wrong use-module statements :P
<dstolfa>leoprikler: i think the fix you pushed for qt-utils is only partial, my `guix package -u` still fails after a pull for telegram-desktop
<leoprikler>does qt5ct build for you at least?
<dstolfa>yes, it does
<leoprikler>then it's some other package, that's breaking :P
<dstolfa>ah... this is a packages/qt.scm fix. i'm still waking up :D
<dstolfa>i saw a qt.scm and assumed it was a fix somewhere in the build utils
<leoprikler>though since qt5ct was submitted by raghav as a part of telegram it's likely that other packages up the chain share this issue
<dstolfa>yeah, nimf is an issue and potentially some others too
<dstolfa>leoprikler: i'll see if i can patch it
<dstolfa>alright, done
<dstolfa>that was easy
*dstolfa will send a patch
<dstolfa>leoprikler: sent it in
<dstolfa>leoprikler: i can also split it up into two commits if that's better, i just bundled it together because i don't really use nimf or hime on their own so i can only say that telegram-desktop works
<leoprikler>I don't see the patch yet, but one patch per package please :)
<dstolfa>leoprikler: gotcha, would you prefer me to split it up and re-transmit, or do you want to do it?
<dstolfa>in any case, brb, need to get some groceries... no food left :<
<leoprikler>the less work I have to do, the happier I'll be
<dstolfa>happiness is a good goal indeed, i'll do it when i'm back from the store :)
<dstolfa>leoprikler: done (i think at least :))
<dstolfa>note to self: don't use --compose with debbugs, how the hell did my "first message" end up in between the two patches on debbugs
<leoprikler>oh, right, messages might arrive out of order
<leoprikler>it's not a biggie
<dstolfa>hopefully the email clients locally will sort messages correctly :D
<leoprikler>oof, got an ABI mismatch
<dstolfa>yeah, i had one too earlier
<dstolfa>had to recompile everything :(
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<dstolfa>the rust compiler in guix is pretty badly outdated, to the point where it doesn't compile newer versions of some utilities
<dstolfa>i wanted to import hyperfine into guix, but ran into a build issue that requires updating rust itself, what should i do?
<nckx>Isn't rust regendary for requiring Tuesday's compiler to compile Wednesday's code?
<nckx>*legendary wtf.
<dstolfa>nckx: yes, but this isn't really a "need yesterday's compiler" kind of thing, it's more of a "need mid 2020 compiler"
<dstolfa>we have version 1.19, latest is 1.53
<nckx>Have you tried adding it?
<nckx>(Not updating 1.19; leave that one alone.)
<dstolfa>i can try
<yoctocell>dstolfa: I see rust-1.52 in (gnu packages rust)
<yoctocell>the default rust compiler is rust-1.45
<dstolfa>ah... the default is 1.45 actually
<dstolfa>i missed that part
<dstolfa>how would i say: "i don't really want that default in this package"
<nckx>Guix seems to have rust@1.52.1 though?
<nckx>Nvm yoctocell already noticed.
<yoctocell>there is probably a #:rust keyword argument for cargo-build-system or something
<dstolfa>presumably there's a way to tell (build-system cargo-build-system) to use a different rust
<nckx>dstolfa: #:rust ,rust-1.52
<dstolfa>yeah, let me take a look
<dstolfa>nckx: great, thanks!
<nckx>raghavgururajan: I'll try it now.
<dstolfa>nckx: is it a little bit crazy to send ~30 patches in a patch series? there were *a lot* of stuff to bottom out in this package...
<nckx>It is. It's also allowed, but it's in your own interest to split it up into smaller series that can be reviewed & merged one after the other. Few if any people volunteer to review 10+ patch series.
<nckx>raghavgururajan knows this 😉
<dstolfa>nckx: it's mostly just imports of individual packages that are required for hyperfine to work, not quite sure how to split it up. is there an example somewhere?
<dstolfa>i basically just did a `guix import crate hyperfine` and then had to bottom out all the dependencies and make sure they are specified sanely
<dstolfa>each patch is 1 of them
<nckx>Oh, no, you'd just submit the first 5, lure someone into reviewing & committing them, then submit the next 5.
<nckx>Submitting them all at once is fine! I'm just being honest about gaming the system.
*nckx is not available for luring today, to be clear.
<dstolfa>nckx: i'd rather not game the system since the build doesn't work without them, it's probably best to just submit something people can `git am` that just works (TM)
<dstolfa>(and seems to build reproducably with --rounds=5!)
<nckx>Okidoke 👍
*dstolfa notes that rust's ecosystem is pretty horrible
<dstolfa>this was certainly and experience, but guix made it much easier
<nckx>It's not very good no.
<nckx>I dread it coming to Linux.
<dstolfa>thankfully it'll be optional from what i've seen...
<nckx>The language itself is fine but it's the ‘no, but smoking is actually cool’ of software development practices.
*nckx goes in search of a bridge to sell to dstolfa.
<dstolfa>yeah, i have nothing against the language itself
<dstolfa>it's cargo
<nckx>I mean
<nckx>apt name.
<dstolfa>heh, yeah :P
<nckx>The SKS keyserver pool was *shut down*? How'd I miss this. GnuPG 2.2.29 now defaults to What a year.
<dstolfa>nckx: yikes, i hit a gmx email limit lol
<dstolfa>i got locked out for a while ahahah
<nckx>‘Due to even more GDPR takedown requests, the DNS records for the pool will no longer be provided at all.’ Huh.
<nckx>I remember asking you very nicely when we first met not to turn out to be a spammer, dstolfa.
<dstolfa>well, this was email to myself!
<nckx>Now you DDoS mail servers for no reason.
<dstolfa>the list is unaffected, i just DoS'd myself
<nckx>(What kind of provider limits their own users? Is this one of those… dodgy ones?)
<dstolfa>it's, normally it's pretty good but i guess 23 emails in a short span is "spam" to them
<nckx>It's just surprisingly low.
<dstolfa>i might just send it via my work email
*dstolfa sighs in disappointment
<jonsger>dstolfa: you need --batch-size=10 or something like this
<dstolfa>jonsger: yeah, but it locked me out before i realized that. now i just can't send a single email
<dstolfa>on the flip side, hyperfine works fine
<dstolfa>it works... hyper-fine!
<nckx>I knew it was coming and I still groaned.
<dstolfa>i'm going to scream if gmail locks me out after i attempt this
<dstolfa>nckx: so i sent the patches with my gmail, i assume that it's still hitting the mod queue, could you check if it arrived?
<dstolfa>i've contacted gmx about locking me out, hopefully they'll uh... increase the limit a little bit
<dstolfa>oh no... did git do what i didn't want it to do
<dstolfa>it did, didn't it
<dstolfa>it absolutely did
<dstolfa>and of course it did that because i ended up getting locked out of gmx and had to reconfigure for gmail and forgot to do the thing where it needs to send the message first and then reply to the nnn@...
<nckx>Hey thanks for fixing 21 new bugs dstolfa.
*dstolfa sighs
*nckx gets out the merge gun.
<dstolfa>nckx: sorry about that :<
*dstolfa restores the git config backup that does the right thing instead of opening 21 bugs
<nckx>Should be merged ☺
<dstolfa>thanks, my bad about that
<dstolfa>nckx: does `git am` work as expected now?
<nckx>I haven't actually received the bug mails.
<nckx>I did receive moderation requests. The moderation Web interface is empty.
<dstolfa>nckx: this might be because of my blunder with send-email
<nckx>It seems unlikely (but possible!) that the 2 other Guixers with moderation access beat me to it. More likely that you triggered some automated spam filter on the GNU side. But at least your mails made it to the tracker, and who knows, they might yet arrive.
<dstolfa>this would be the 3rd spam filter i triggered with these patches then
*dstolfa feels like a spammer
<nckx>I'm not sure if you're a very good one or a very bad one.
<nckx>Definitely one of those 😃
<nckx>Spammers wish they'd get this level of engagement with their #content.
<dstolfa>in my defense, i'd be less of a spammer if gmx didn't block me and force me to redo my send-email config
<dstolfa>which turned out to be wrong
<nckx>So you can't just drop in in place of GMX?
<dstolfa>so i did that, but i seem to have copy pasted some wrong things which just did a "send everything without asking anything"
<dstolfa>so 21 bugs were opened as a result
<dstolfa>i essentially used my git send-email config for transferring patches between laptop and desktop (and other machines potentially) instead of the one i should have used
<dstolfa>and that one is very liberal in how it sends things
<dstolfa>because i usually just spam myself with 2-3 patches and that's it
<maxwell_TGAP>Hi guys, does anyone have a link to the community guidelines for this place?
<maxwell_TGAP>didnt see it linked on and i dont want to put my foot in my mouth
<nckx>You'd think I'd have a link handy, but I don't 😳
<maximed>maxwell_TGAP: there isn't some exhaustive list of guideliness
<maximed>I'd say: guideline #1: be nice
<nckx>It's just your usual bog-standard contributor covenant, plus the GNU FSDG, which boils down to ‘don't recommend non-free stuff, and whilst Guix won't block you from running whatever you want, support for getting non-free stuff to work with Guix is off-topic’.
<nckx>But maximed's prime directive is by far the most important.
<maximed>The CODE-OF-CONDUCT mentions ‘wiki edits’, but Guix doesn't have a wiki
<nckx>It is indeed not Guix-specific in any way.
<Noisytoot>the wiki is the documentation. edits (patches) need to be approved (unlike most wikis, but like the free software directory)
<nckx>maxwell_TGAP: Just FYI I sent you a PM.
<nckx>If you're like me and never see those.
<maximed>maxwell_TGAP: there are also some guidelines for contributions though (in the manual)
<nckx>Well, we do have a Wiki link on the Web site, it just links to .
<nckx>Which hardly anyone uses TBH.
<maxwell_TGAP>18:07 < nckx> Well, we do have a Wiki link on the Web site, it just links to .
<maxwell_TGAP>18:07 < nckx> Which hardly anyone uses TBH.
<maxwell_TGAP>woops sorry, im new to using irssi
<maxwell_TGAP>honestly im finding the whole experiance quite bewildering :crying
<nckx>Chillax and take your time. We don't bite and are here to help.
<maxwell_TGAP>nckx: Thanks
<maxwell_TGAP>and thanks for the links everyone
<nckx>You bring up two good points, by the way. There should be a single link to a page that answers that question, since the policy applies to all our channels (mail/IRC/???). And there used to be a channel ‘entry message’, distinct from the channel topic, that mentioned that.
<nckx>I could've sworn we had both.
<nckx>??? is my general mood today.
<dstolfa>nckx: you and me both... though i have an ! at the back there because of the weirdness with email :D
<maxwell_TGAP>Hi, just to introduce my self. I live in the uk, am about to start a phd in computational physics, have just installed guix system on my laptop after useing arch for a long time. I am interested in mastering guix a system management tool. just FYI i have dyslexia so my spelling is often uuuu creative. Nice to meet you all :)
<dstolfa>maxwell_TGAP: nice to meet you! hope your phd turns out to be interesting & successful :)
<maximed>Hi maxwell_TGAP
<maxwell_TGAP>dstolfa: Thanks, me too!
<maxwell_TGAP>btw TGAP = the graet and powerfull, someone already had maxwell apparently
<nckx>If you're not aware (maybe it's how you found out about Guix), there's an HPC subproject <> with its own IRC channel (#guix-hpc on this network). But it's pretty quiet and HPC Guix is always on topic in #guix as well.
<nckx>I admit to looking it up but got no further than French environmental tax law.
<maxwell_TGAP>no i found out through a youtuber my firend recommended called systemcraft
<bricewge>Hello maxwell_TGAP
<maxwell_TGAP>i will deffinetly check that out tho thank you
<nckx>maxwell_TGAP: If you like you're welcome to introduce yourself and your goals on help-guix at as well.
<maxwell_TGAP>tyty, wd
<Noisytoot>We don't have an entry message
<nckx>No, I meant we used to.
<nckx>By which I mean I set one post-Libera so what the hell…
<cwebber>hi there
<nckx>Now there is once more.
<nckx>Hi cwebber.
<maximed>Hi cwebber
<dstolfa>hello cwebber
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<ebubekir-siddik>I've been having trouble getting gnome-disks to run. When I run gnome-disks from "sudo gnome-disks" the output is: "Could not find the icon 'open-menu-symbolic-ltr'. The 'hicolor' theme
<ebubekir-siddik>was not found either, perhaps you need to install it..." Any clue how to solve this error?
<ebubekir-siddik>Installing hicolor theme doesnt solve the problem.
<cbaines>I run gnome-disks as my user, rather than root. Why are you running it as root?
<nckx>(Maybe) interesting that both work fine here.
<ebubekir-siddik>For automount my encrypted disks.
<cbaines>I would expect gnome-disks uses polkit or otherwise to do things that require specific permissions
<nckx>Removing ‘sudo’ doesn't fix the error, or does it?
<boeg>I'm trying to stream via disney+ and are getting an error 83 in the disney+ player. Anyone know if there is some package that will fix it?
<char>boeg, what browser?
<char>yeah, that isn't going to work
<boeg>ah okay
<boeg>is it because of DRM or something?
<char>disney+ has drm, so try firefox installed through flatpak
<boeg>alright, thanks
<maximed>char: be aware that the DRM stuff entails downloading some non-free library which will be run on your computer
<maximed>at least, if disney+ uses Widevine
<dstolfa>boeg: ^
<maximed>tbf, IIUC, it will be run a container, which mitigates a lot of the security problems that entails. But still, non-free
<char>yea,that is why it isn't allows in gnu repos
<dstolfa>i did notice flatpak applications in guix have some issues with the window buttons
<dstolfa>i don't know why
<dstolfa>they are essentially invisible
<char>I also have noticed that
<boeg>yeah, i was contemplating just downloading what i want to watch as a "linux ISO" instead of bothering with streaming it
<maximed>videos can be downloaded as "linux ISOs"? How does that work?
<maximed>How would you boot a video?
<boeg>maximed: eerrr.... you know
<maximed>I want to note that ‘streaming’ is a special kind of ‘downloading’, where the downloaded parts of the video are thrown away later
<boeg>you know how people sometimes say one thing but mean another?
<maximed>boeg: No, I don't. If it's shady stuff, you can send a PM
<nckx>boeg: Guix has many fine torrent clients. Guix has zero DRM malware. Guix's position is quite clear 😉
<boeg>e.g. for many ages has "i only torrent linux ISOs" been used by people saying they pirate stuff via torrenting
<boeg>maximed: ^
<maximed>o you mean downloading the videos _outside_ disney+ web interface
<boeg>just an example
<nckx>maximed: You've legit never heard of ‘Linux ISOs'?
<nckx>Quotes inclus.
<maximed>... only in the sense of "linux ISO = disk image to burn on a CD (or an USB) which you can boot, containing a (part of) a GNU/Linux’ distribution
<nckx>Yeah no.
<maximed>I have heard of ISO's before in the ‘a disk image of some DVD, that actually contains video’
<maximed>though not as ‘_Linux_ ISOs’
<nckx>I mean like the 3 TB of legally downloaded Linux ISOs on my NAS that we watch on the weekend.
<danrobi70>I always boot my videos
<nckx>GNU/Linux was originally distributed on paper tape, and later on microfiche/film, hence the historical name of my Linux ISO directory, ‘Films/’.
<dstolfa>i'd just like to remind everyone that the channel is logged, we wouldn't want to give others the idea that we run anything but guix system in here
<dstolfa>all of these are guix isos
<nckx>There is also a directory for the original multi-floppy Slackware distribution, logically called Series/.
<boeg>dstolfa: well, i tried talking in code
<boeg>so much for my trouble
<maximed>I wouldn't be surprised if someone made a dual image, that can be feed to vlc (a video player), or burnt to a DVD which you can boot, that will automatically start a video player playing the video
<nckx>Bare-metal autoplay.
<maximed>In a similar notion, I've heard some interest in patching VLC in guix, such that if VLC is run on a guix iso, it will play the release song instead
<nckx>Your patch sounds overly complicated, just make it play the release song always.
<nckx>maximed: Surely you can hack the ISO further so it gets recognised as CD/DVD/whatever audio on all players…?
<nckx>I think OpenBSD managed to do that.
<pkill9>what's hte release song?
<char>doess anyone know to how get the openvpn interface in gnome-settings working?
<pkill9>rekado: how did you come up with that guitar tune?
<danrobi70>nckx: thats awesome! thanks for sharing
<nckx>My pleasure.
<civodul>hmm! Guile 3.0.7 fails test-stack-overflow on aarch64 on core-updates:
<sneek>civodul, you have 1 message!
<sneek>civodul, nckx says: Mystery solved:
<civodul>nckx: ooh, nice!
<nckx>And with <> applied, finally all Guix tests pass for me.
<nckx>Doesn't affect sane^Wregular users, of course, but might become babby's first kernel patch if it ever makes it in…
<civodul>was the device->number change needed?
<civodul>that one didn't assume a 16-bit quantity, at first sight
<civodul>(since it's all bignums)
<nckx>It handles them fine but produces a bogus result, since it's an oversimplification.
<civodul>because it keeps irrelevant bits?
<civodul>oh, there's a second device->number in linux-boot.scm :-)
<nckx>Well, no, (* major 256) is just not equivalent to the more complex bit shuffling that actually happens.
<nckx>It's just wrong 😛
<nckx>I mean, it was right for 16-bit devices.
<nckx>civodul: I was actually going to ask you about whether that's worth factoring out into a build module.
<nckx>And which one if so.
<civodul>nckx: that would be (guix build syscalls) i guess
<civodul>so yes, it could be factorized, we just need to check whether there's anything preventing it
<nckx>I thought syscalls was just for syscalls.
<civodul>yeah well :-)
<civodul>it's for all things system
<civodul>more like some sort of a libc
*nckx glibc.scm when


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No. 161914

Ashley thread, because we really needed one.

Sorry about your face, Ash.

No. 161915

best friend with barbie

No. 161916

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oh my

No. 161917

She looks like a Halloween mask.

No. 161918

Holy fuck, Barbie actually looks cute compared to this girl. Dat crone face.

No. 161919

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No. 161920

what's wrong with her?

No. 161921

i mean, what did she do? besides being ugly.

No. 161922

She reminds me of Haylie Duff.

No. 161923

isn't being ugly enough for us to laugh at her?

No. 161924

she's rich?

No. 161925

I've met Ashley a few times before. She IS nice but she also does and says a lot OC stupid crap. Like falling for ~*~host boyz~*~ in Japan

No. 161926

srsly what does this girl do. All she seems to do is go to visual kei lives, take purikura, and go to hair salons to get her hair set.

No. 161927

Even her tongue is ugly wtf

No. 161928

Ofc they're friends.

No. 161929

Damn, she's hideous. Doesn't she work out 2 hours every single day at the gym?

No. 161930

Yuup. Someone on Instagram asked her what she did to keep slim, and she said, "I eat 1,200 calories and work out two hours a day".

No. 161931

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No. 161932

actually I believe that she is working in japan but not 100% sure doing what. i just know she has to wear wigs for work L O L

No. 161933

wait wat

No. 161934

Man, she has no life

No. 161935

Yes! She made an Instagram post a little while ago can't be bothered to go look for it soz. Was wearing office clothes as well as a wig

No. 161936

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pic related.

Honestly, I mean, we all can see she's just not cute, but VK style really suits her. Her features kinda lend themselves to the theatrical makeup. She does not look good in kawaii/gyaru styles or even casual styles though. She needs some work done.

No. 161937

Legit, I would get a fundraiser for her ugly face, I'm not even being mean right now, she's so terrible looking, I'm not even sure what I can do to help.

No. 161938

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Oh man… I remember this chick from some of the reeeaalllyy old /cgl/ threads. From what I recall she was a spoiled rich bitch from Cali (??? probably wrong about the state) but I remember seeing her pics with some nice cars or some shit. Sorry this was years ago.

I recall her being a Lolita because she was rich enough to afford all the trendy prints but her face was just always the absolute worst. Jeez. Dat shin, dat nose, dat everything. I recall people saying she was a bitch and a snob but I don't have screencaps ofc.

No. 161939

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I agree that visual kei is the only style that can handle her features.

No. 161940

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No. 161941

i bet she would be able to fix her face with the money she spend in japan

No. 161942

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tried to make her look less like a horse/halloween mask… even photoshop can't save this bitch

No. 161943

gotta shoop her eyes smaller and nose shorter, then she might have some hope but i sincerely doubt it. poor girl :(

No. 161944

Truly if she just got a nosejob and shaved a bit of that chin off she would look miiiiles better. Her mouth and eyes aren't great but…not the worst things on her face.

No. 161945

she looks like andre the giant face wise

No. 161946

that God awful dress

No. 161947

it's funny because that other pic was already shooped

No. 161948

why can't she just use a nude lipstick or something when in gyaru? it's draw attention away from her problem areas…

No. 161949

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No. 161950

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I tried?

No. 161951

Her chin and nose are both equally bad, but at least if she got a nose job, she'd have hope.

No. 161952

Hold me, anons…I'm scared…

I really feel bad tho. If she's rich why can't she fix her face in Korea? She has such a big face, they'll definitely make it oval and cute. Plus she doesn't even need jaw shaving so that'll make it cheaper. Nose jobs are common place so that won't be a big deal. Isn't Korean plastic surgeons famous for reducing huge faces? I've seen lots of before and afters that work with horse faces.

No. 161953

Upon further looking, some jaw shaving is in order.

No. 161954

She does look a lot better without all that eye make up. And yes, i agree she makes a better vk/host boy than a kawaii lolita.

No. 161955

any photos of her real hair???

No. 161956

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Here you are, anon

No. 161957

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Ngl I do really wish I had all her male wardrobe. That shit must be so expensive. She has some nice shirts and blazers. Must be nice to be rich and in Japan with no worries about finance.

No. 161958

Trash begets trash.

No. 161959

is this the same girl who went by "ashface" in the scene days?

No. 161960

She never had a scene phase. She went to weeaboo straight to vk/lolita/gyaru.

No. 161961

she is actually very confident in her looks from what I gather

No. 161962

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Y'all motherfuckers need photoshop Jesus

No. 161963

God I thought this was Peacock Feather.

No. 161964

Eugh, terrifying

No. 161965

her hand looks so gross…

No. 161966

It does!

No. 161967

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My best efforts. Cba with those hands though.

No. 161968

I remember her from California conventions way back in the early 2000's. She used to do Yaoi skits with her father.

The one I saw that made me cringe the most was her father was Sasuke, sitting on a chair on the stage, and she was Itachi singing about being gay for him.

No. 161969

i wonder what her parents look like

No. 161970

When you're fucked for life with such shit face you have nothing else but to conform and assimilate it.

No. 161971

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pic of her and her dad from her instagram

can't find any of her mom, even though she went on a trip with both her parents and they aren't divorced

No. 161972

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She looks 1000x better without ginormous hair and all that shit caked on her face imo.

No. 161973

is she actually slow or something? why would her dad put up with that?

No. 161974

What?! Are you for real? That's…really kind of disturbing.

No. 161975

Is she seriously taking a selfie while driving?

No. 161976

Took me a few to try and find the video, granted it was back in 2006. But I believe she did something similar with her father at various convention masquerades.

No. 161977

fucking gold

No. 161978

lol I'm looking at all of these side by side and the original looks shooped to me because of hoe extreme her natural features are

No. 161979

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I do need photoshop Jesus

No. 161980

Oh my gosh… I'm so beyond uncomfortable watching this.

No. 161981

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They remind me of each other in terms of face.

No. 161982

evil bitch

No. 161983

big improvement but still ugly… very unfair

No. 161984

Yes! Exactly what I was going to say. It looks ridiculous, like someone took it into Photoshop and straight up stretched her head vertically…it's mind-blowing.

No. 161985

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I tried my darndest.

No. 161986

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Even better. :^)

No. 161987

omg, she's actually pretty cute here

No. 161988

Great job, anon

No. 161989

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holy shit that fucking bald patch

No. 161990

Is this recent? Ouch

No. 161991

Might just be where her hair is bleached blond. The filtering is making it disappear.

Also, channeling Marilyn Manson Mechanical Animals days here.

No. 161992

California. Or at least she was there for some time because I've met her at Fanime. I had no idea she was a lolcow or anything like that, I just thought her coord was cute and I complimented her. She was actually nice and she told me I looked pretty too. I really haven't seen much on this girl other than her unfortunate face though.

No. 161993

nah looking through her recent pics, she's definitely balding

No. 161994

I wanna hear horror stories gdi

No. 161995

Where do I start. This girl has a horror story history going back years back in the KH days. One of my favorite stories is when she customized her expensive rich girl convertible to be ~*axel themed*~ because of her AkuRoku obsession.

No. 161996

There are stories on getoffegl and old cgl archives with horrible encounters with the lolita community. Apparently she was abusive her ex who was also lolita.

No. 161997

Oh god, I remember her bragging about that shit being permanent. I'd never do that to a car unless it's something normal, like a butterfly not "AXEL" embedded everywhere including the license plate.

I also remember hearing they both stunk at an ALA con while wearing expensive ass Angelic Pretty's Sugary Carnival (when it was in style).

No. 161998

Doesn't she force herself on girls?

No. 161999

I think I've heard her name on Fuckyeahbangya but she's gaining a reputation in Tokyo for manipulating girls for money and sympathy

No. 162000

Oh man, really? Wouldn't be surprised. She's all over the Tokyo band scene. Seems like a whore.

No. 162001

I went on her twitter and noticed she's friends with that fat whore who got outed for fucking a bunch of band guys back sometime in Christmas. It looks like she can't make good friends.

No. 162002

I'd hate for this thread to die because Ashley is so many flavors of crazy.

No. 162003

Who are you even talking about?

No. 162004

Details please

No. 162005

you are talking about Heather right??? @theheavenshell on twitter

No. 162006

Oh jeez that crazy bitch
She's always complaining about foreigners when she's a foreigner herself

No. 162007

idk if you met some of the foreigners showing up lately you would bitch too lol so I give her a pass on that. mostly she is just a whore

No. 162008

Ugh gross

No. 162009

She's surprisingly cute here, in her original picture it's like she was stuck in the birth canal as a child and her face was squished

No. 162010

Maybe that's what happened.

No. 162011

Heather is super chill but got super bitchy to anyone she didn't know after foreign gya started saying she was fucking bandomen. She really isn't bad irl

No. 162012

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Is heather the girl on the left lol? Of course with bandmen

No. 162013

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I don't think so. Heather has longer, reddish pink hair and isn't so fat.

No. 162014

She is super cute. I'd fuck her.

No. 162015

The bandmen look like the Swedish vkei group Disreign.
They're currently in Japan, apparently living in Gackt's apartment and bragging about it.

No. 162016

wtf moustache

No. 162017

dafuq does Swedish people have with Japan and japanese fashion

No. 162018

>They're currently in Japan, apparently living in Gackt's apartment and bragging about it.

No. 162019

soooo anybody notice that Ashley is working at the host bar that sere is at now? Hahah

No. 162020

I'm envious of her vkei wardrobe, but her face without a filter on it still looks incredibly harsh.

No. 162021

Fitting that she works as a host now since all she has going for her is her desprate host obsession and love of forcing herself on girls

No. 162022

You would also be able to have all those clothing if your parents were rich and threw money at you too. What I dont get is why she wont get surgery to fix that horse face.

No. 162023

What the hell?! That guy looks so gross. He wants to try to be pretty boy /vk but insists on having that dirty stache? Nasty.

No. 162024

She's at a host bar? Who would want to be served by her?

No. 162025

what a unfortunate face

No. 162026

yes! "comfort bar". same one that sere/kabukireign is always pimping out haha. i think inuashley just began working there

No. 162027

It can be confirmed just by looking at her twitter. Ashley is doing a trial run there.

No. 162028

forcing herself on girls? deets plz

No. 162029

Hosts make a living off their looks and charm. Ashley is gonna starve.

No. 162030

examples of forcing? that would be scary to have this chick pawing at you

No. 162031

according to the rumors Ash tried raping that crazy avelcain fan but now they are dating. lolwhat

No. 162032

but you can't work at host/hostess clubs unless you have a certain visa
i know rein has a spouse visa so thats fine but isnt ashley just doing some office job ?

No. 162033

not the same anon but she also tried to rape her girlfriend after they broke up. old drama but ashley is a confirmed psychopath.

No. 162034

Yeah Ashley is an English teacher it's illegal for her to work there. She's not working there for money she's trying to work there because "being a host is her DREAM JOB" as said by her. What a joke.

No. 162035

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No. 162036

>this idiot teaches in Japan

No. 162037

I think this is the only look tgat actually kind of fits her

No. 162038

yeah, she looks better in this look. Lolita doesn't suit her at all.

No. 162039

Pretty sure she only got the job for the visa… her parents were paying for her to dick around there for months without a job.

No. 162040

She should stop trying to be kawaii and go with this style. Her features are too harsh for the kawaii baby look.

No. 162041

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but ashley, it's illegal

No. 162042

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So I try to do a more "manageable" shoops- I try to do things that they can achieve through surgery.
That said, she needs to widen and turn up her nose, shorten her chin, and get cheek fillers. The hair narrowing her face doesn't really help her out too much

No. 162043

She's so ugly it's amazing to me–like incredible. Her face is stretched like taffy. I was thinking about how widening her face, getting her chin deducted (and possibly a genioplasty) would help but damn that nose needs help. It makes her face so long too. It needs upturned more or s/t.

No. 162044

She doesn't look THAT b
Oh my.

No. 162045

Her face is so scary. Not to mention she must have some sort of Shallow Hal syndrome if she really spends so much time in Japan, a country that's obsessed with a specific beauty standard, looking that wrecked. She needs to stop spending that money on shitty clothes and trips to Nippon and fix her face.

No. 162046

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I swear she tries to looks like Hiko from Danger Gang.
(Maybe I think this bc of the hair, but idk)

No. 162047

fucking WRECKT it looks like somebody beat her with the ugly stick i'm sorry. she looks like a corrupted lady gaga

No. 162048

This bitch hung out with Charms at one point.

No. 162049

She's trying to look like Zen from Avel Cain she STALKS him and always sends him presents. It's weird that she's in love with him/obsessed over him but also wants to BE him

No. 162050

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No. 162051

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No. 162052

it's bad because her body is alright and her hair and make up are cool…. but her face….. her fucking face….

No. 162053

I like this new trend of hers trying to be sexy

No. 162054

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If I were her, I would make it my number one priority to save up and get jaw surgery/a chin shave and a nose job.
Her eyes are quite large and pretty, it's just…everything below them that's mad fucked up.
This could be you, Ashley!

No. 162055

She looks severely handicapped

No. 162056

She definitely has some of the worst genes I've ever seen. I wonder what her parents look like. Not only her chin, but her nose and beady eyes are just insanely unattractive. I kind of feel bad for her. But if I looked like, I would attempt to get SOME kind of surgery to lessen that ugly.

No. 162057

No. 162058

Neither of her parents is particularly ugly, I've seen them at anime conventions. They're pretty normal looking people. IDK what happened to Ashley.

No. 162059

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To be honest though it's not just her jaw that's the problem unlike that girl in your picture that appears to have Prognathism. Her entire face is elongated, so even if you corrected her jaw she'd still look weird because you'd need to balance her nose too, pictured related, original, jaw correction, jaw correction + nosejob.

I think in her case a wider, flatter nose would balance better to off set the elongation.

No. 162060

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I suppose in addition she could also have her maxillary teeth shortened but then she'd need braces to correct her bite and likely a retainer for life.

It's probably cheaper for her to just learn to accept herself for the way she is.

No. 162061

I hate looking at these shoops because when you go back and look at her real face >>161939 its hard to believe its legit

No. 162062

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No. 162063

Her face is literally a horse.

No. 162064

Damn, I guess there's not really any hope for her after all then. That's pretty sad.

No. 162065

she's disgustingly obsessed with zen. she keeps buying him things and makes him wear them. then tweets about it like OH MY GOD I CAN'T BREATHE

No. 162066

i don't even know how she teaches. her japanese is beyond horrible

No. 162067

You don't have to be good at japanese to teach english

No. 162068

is that the host she was "dating?" "He was different!"

No. 162069

What a creeper bitch. Her twitter handle atm is Avencain, I believe.

No. 162070

No it's still Inuashley she writes the next show in her "name box"

No. 162071

Zen is a guitarist of the visual key band Avel Cain. She dresses up like him and also tries to pass as him but also wants to fuck him???

No. 162072

File: 1438437351815.jpg (701.57 KB, 1002x1004, jfc.jpg)

This is terrifying

No. 162073

at least this style (although her hair looks ratty and her eyebrows suck but i'm not familiar with VK style, so idk if this is part of the fashion) suits her more than the kawaii lolita thing, but i think she looks best doing norm-core like in >>161972. maybe she could pull off the western goth look as well.

does she have a jaw malformalady? i've seen people get surgery to fix their jaws, and by that surgery alone, their noses and teeth are aligned as well.

No. 162074

Her usual "guy" vk look is better than this but she's trying to be "sexy" now for that Zen guy apparently? so she looks like a weird mix between styles and just looks ratchet

No. 162075

I actually kinda like the more guy visual kei style on her. it fits her features and she seems to like it well enough. she doesn't seem to really do anything to call for so much bashing…? idk.

No. 162076

Im scared now because she has been hanging out with one of my friends in Tokyo

No. 162077

Why does she have a thread? whats the drama?

No. 162078

She met up with someone i know in Japan recently and was all over him because he was a white dude who was good at hair/makeup. She's insane.

No. 162079

Her face.

No. 162080

Idk I think her face is fine. She was really sweet in person. Don't believe everything you read. Also, fucking with her face in photoshop a bit cruel since she's fine with her appearance.(necromancy)

No. 162081

Why the fuck did you necro this thread?

No. 162082

anon there is nothing fine with her face, she looks like fucking squidward.

No. 162083

She looks horrible in lolita, but okayish in visual key style

No. 162084

Her personality sucks too

No. 162085

Hi Ashley, you look like you have a face of a horse. Spend some of that money on plastic surgery for that large honker on your face why don'tcha?

No. 162086

Pretty sure this is a man
It's gotta be transsexual male to female

No. 162087

Why is this not in snow?

No. 162088

Because this thread was made years ago before we even had a /snow/, tard

No. 162089

Fuck off, newfag. Learn how to use imageboards.

No. 162090

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this chick is one of my favorite reaction images

No. 162091

What does the question have to do with using an image board correctly? Calm down anon.

No. 162092

File: 1519464912649.jpg (79.39 KB, 1919x384, inuash.jpg)

Guess whose back in America

No. 162093

>>162092 Yeah she was selling all her shit in the Tokyo facebook and VK groups lmao

No. 162094

Anyone knows what when down with her ex Kitsy?(Tokyo Rebel/BTSSB NYC)

No. 162095

I came here from the Tokyo rebel and BTSSB shop thread on /cgl/, someone there said they had more milk.

No. 162096

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No. 162097

She’s been back for at least 6 months

No. 162098

Why did she leave though? Did she finally get kicked out for trying to do night work or did she get tired of being forced to teach for a visa?

No. 162099

She never did night work? Just teaching. Pretty sure her job just didn't renew her

No. 162100

so, where's the milk?

No. 162101

she worked at lorenas bar

No. 162102

That and whoever works/worked for Lorena has always been involved in other night work activities too.

No. 162103

>ashley, rumored as forcing herself on girls, assaults girl
>where's the milk

So what do you consider milk?

No. 162104

I heard she says Ashley raped her but I think that was on her twitter account which is on private. Saged for no contribution but that's what someone told me.

No. 162105

She worked there one MAYBE two nights and pretended to be a host lol but that was still a few years before her having to leave Japan for some reason.

No. 162106

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No. 162107

That pic is horrifying

No. 162108

jfc this is some Junji ito shit

No. 162109

This is who you show to anyone going through a crisis

No. 162110

Borzoi human

No. 162111

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Her family must have a ton of money, every year on her birthday, she goes over the top with food gifts, spa ect. I don’t understand why she dresses up all nice and everything but she doesn’t wear a wig or try to make her hair pretty. It just doesn’t look good is all

No. 162112

How has she not gotten a nose job yet??

No. 162113

rofl this bitch is still around? And still has that hairline, huh

No. 162114

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legitimately tho

No. 162115

What an unfortunate looking human, christ on a bike.

No. 162116

Don’t know her but she looks like Alaska Thunderfuck kek

No. 162117

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No. 162118

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No. 163469

I literally don't understand why people hate Ash so much.

No. 163544

She's actually balding from all that bleach

No. 165319

I bet not a single one of her haters ever spoke to her, it's all just based on seing the cool things she does and the nice dresses she wears. If you are completely bored with your own life, you hate on those who succed in not being lazy and trying to live a partially good life.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 165471

Jfc she looks like those sims you randomly generate to “breed out the ugly”. She needs to pick a new aesthetic, this is ugly.

No. 165487

I agree that it might have been jealousy but she's comically ugly, and that naturally draws mockery no matter what your personality or financial status is like.

Welcome to the jungle, newfriend!

No. 165547

Oh definitely. Of course no one is perfect and I am sure she has fucked up in her life but so does everyone.

Even if that's the case it still isn't right.

No. 165606

>Even if that's the case it still isn't right.
Not what I said, but either way your post won't change anything so go pound sand.

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Free Jamie Oliver knife collection available at Sobeys

If you spend any time in the kitchen, you will know who Jamie Oliver is.  His professional quality, stainless steel knife collection is currently available  for free (sort of) at Sobeys grocery stores.

For every ten dollars spent on groceries at Sobeys, shoppers are given one coupon.  The yellow coupons have a sticky backing, so can easily be collected in a booklet, also provided at Sobeys…

Collectibles include paring, utility, bread, carving, santoku and chef’s knives, as well as a sharpening tool, scissors, a carving fork, and a knife block.  Items range from 30 to 70 coupons, although they can be purchased with a combination of cash and coupons or just cash.  The chart in the center picture above describes all of the options available.

I have collected two knives so far, an 8 inch bread knife (pictured at top) for 60 coupons and a 6.5 inch santoku knife (pictured below bread knife) for 70 coupons.  I am thrilled with both.  The bread knife slices baguettes and fresh bread without crushing them and the santoku slices through partially frozen chicken breasts like warm butter. I hope to collect as many as possible.

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    1. The knives are out-of-stock at the two Sobeys I went to in the Halifax area; Bedford & Clayton Park. The promotion ends in about 3 weeks and they don’t know when they’ll get more in. This shouldn’t have been a surprise to them they probably know how many stamps have been issued to a one – why run out of knives? – seems asinine, but I’ll trust Sobeys to honor the deal.

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  1. Went to the customer service counter , put in the request for the knife I want (same as the one you wanted) , and was told it would arrive at the store in about 2-3 weeks. Two weeks later they (the store) notified me it was there so I went in and picked it up , simple as that. Sobey’s [Empire] stayed true to their word of delivering on what they promised they would , nothing but total respect for the company.

    1. I do like Sobeys for many reasons. Was your knife experience recent? Haven’t seen them in the stores for quite a while now, wish they would come back as I am missing a few. Love the ones I did get!

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doctor-who-the-zygon-inversion-headerFor the fourth time this season, we have a two-part episode. While I was disappointed with the last two multi-episode stories, this one is a return to form. When you stretch a story over multiple episodes, there has to be enough content to fill those episodes. While The Zygon Inversion was a bit light compared to The Zygon Invasion, it certainly made the whole hour-and-a-half feel like it was worth watching.

So for all of the quite obvious comparisons between the uprising Zygons and ISIS, we certainly didn’t get a payoff that yields us any lessons. It came down to killing everyone will just psychologically torture you so the only solution is to forgive each other. If only solving all of life’s quarrels, not just wars, was that simple.

For Doctor Who, though, violence is seldom the solution. It would have been quite a shock for war to have broken out or for UNIT to have executed a genocide of the Zygon race. Even Kate downing the two Zygons with her pistol was unusually violent for the forces of good.

I guess what I’m trying to say is that the final resolution of the Zygon resolution wasn’t unexpected but it was lacking in a tie-back to the metaphor that the Zygons were being used for.

Fortunately for Steven Moffat and episode writer Peter Harness, they have the best Doctor of the modern era in Peter Capaldi at the control of the TARDIS. In the episode’s climactic scene as Kate and the Zygon Bonnie (AKA Zygella AKA Evil Clara) stare at each other across a table with Osgood boxes at the ready, Capaldi gives an absolute tour de force of a speech. Sure, he chewed through the scenery like it was no one’s business but I can’t see the scene being done any other way and being nearly as good.

Credit has to be given to Jenna Coleman as Bonnie/Zygella/Evil Clara. There was just enough of a change in attitude that she played a solid villainous character. Turn up your nose at people, act a little angry, change the makeup and instant villain. Okay, there’s more to it than that but she still did a good job of playing two characters.

I will give Harness some credit for doing a good job with some of the hints he dropped in the first episode. Who would have thought that Kate mentioning the Osgoods psychic link would have come back to affect the Claras? That even let him find a way to allow The Doctor and Osgood to escape the plane without some sort of Timelord magic. Half-a-point off for doing the “if you don’t see them die on-screen” trope. We didn’t see Kate die in T or C and the villains didn’t bother to check. A bit too cliché for my liking.

So while I didn’t think that The Zygon Inversion really settled any of the big real-life issues brought up in The Zygon Invasion, I think it was far and away the best two-parter of the season so far. Sure, we have the season finale coming up in three weeks as the last two-part episode of the year that will likely top this one but it’s good to have the bar set reasonably high.

Other random points of note:

  • I suppose the double Osgood ending means that she’s not going to be the next companion.
  • I’m almost disappointed that they didn’t acknowledge that The Doctor fixed Osgood’s glasses using duct tape. Not only is it the handyman’s secret weapon, it’s also the Timelord’s.
  • Do actors get extra pay for portraying more than one character?

Next week, we get a horror episode of Doctor Who. It’s a found footage style of episode with some new type of alien on a spaceship. It’s a cross between your generic found footage horror movie with Alien. Considering that we’ve already had the horror-ish Under the Lake / Before the Flood two-parter this season, I’m hoping that Sleep No More does something a little bit more than change the style of footage.

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Linkin Park Live - 2001.12.03 West Valley City, Utah

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December 03, 2001
West Valley City, UT  United States
E Center
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Countdown To Revolution Tour
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6 of 7
Other Bands:

(hed)p.e., The Apex Theory, X-Ecutioners, DJ Z-Trip

01. With You w/ Pre-Song Docklands Intro
02. Runaway
03. Papercut
04. Points Of Authority
05. Pushing Me Away
06. Step Up
07. Crawling
08. In The End Guitar Intro; Vocal Ending
09. And One Short Live Version; Wind Intro
10. A Place For My Head
11. By Myself
12. My December Acoustic Version #3
13. Forgotten Guitar + 2000 Beat Intro; Ext. Bridge
14. One Step Closer w/ Jared Gomes

Show Notes:

- 'High Voltage' was dropped from the setlist sometime after the Kansas City show on November 27, 2001 and 'And One' was added. This is the first confirmed show that 'And One' was played at on this tour. Also see the "Other Notes" below about the setlist order.

- Jared from (hed) p.e. came out on 'One Step Closer.'

Other Notes:

- The setlist for this show that has been around for years reportedly was in the order of 'With You', 'Runaway', 'Papercut', 'Points Of Authority', 'Pushing Me Away', 'Step Up', 'Crawling', 'In The End', 'And One', 'A Place For My Head', 'By Myself', 'My December', 'Forgotten', and 'One Step Closer'. That order is inconsistent with what the band was playing on this tour, but we left it the same since it was reported this way in 2001. With the 'And One' for 'High Voltage' swap, it's possible that the band swapped the order up a little bit. For example, 'Step Up' appeared three days later between 'Points Of Authority' and 'Pushing Me Away'. This order is unconfirmed and the only logical conclusion we can draw from this show is the addition of 'And One' for 'High Voltage'. It is entirely possible that 'Step Up' was moved up mid-set at this show and the encore was 'My December', 'Forgotten', and 'One Step Closer', but we are not going to assume anything and change what we have listed.

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