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Ultra Rugged Multi-Slot Portable PC with 20″ LCD

Model: StealthBOX-Warrior2-ATX-20

  • Rugged Metal Enclosure
  • 20.1″ Active Matrix TFT Display
  • 1600 x 1200 Native Resolution
  • Powerful Intel 6th Gen Core Processors
  • Industry Standard ATX or EATX Main Board
  • PCI/PCIe Expansion Slots
  • Multiple Drive Bays for Massive Storage
  • Built-in Keyboard and Touchpad Pointing Device
  • Custom Built to your Exact Specifications

$5,120.00 USD

StealthBOX Multi-slot Portable Expansion PCs are highly customizable rugged computer workstations designed for people who require the power and expansion capability of a desktop PC in a portable package. The sophisticated computer user cannot haul their desktop PC to customer sites, hostile environments or remote locations. The StealthBOX portable provides performance and expansion capability not found in Notebook and Laptop PCs.

The following are example applications that StealthBOX has been used in:

  • Instrumentation and Control
  • Field service & diagnostic application in many industries
  • Portable servers & workstations
  • Network and communications testing
  • Data acquisition
  • Geophysical exploration
  • Video and audio editing on location

Supporting Intel® 6th Generation Core™ i7, i5, i3 Processors / Supports Intel® 14nm CPUs
Optional support for Intel Xeon processors
Optional support for AMD Processors including Opteron

Dual-Channel memory architecture
4 DDR4 Memory Sockets Supporting up to 64GB of RAM / Memory
Additional customized solutions which include Triple-Channel or higher memory configurations available

Internal Storage

Supports all SATA (Serial-ATA) I, II & III Hard Drives (1.5Gb/s, 3Gb/s and 6Gb/s)
Optional support for SAS (Serial Attached SCSI), SCSI or Solid State Hard Drives (SSD)
Optional Onboard RAID configurations (0, 1, 5, 10), requires multiple drives (Note: this option may require a PCIe expansion slot)
Optional Intel Smart Response Technology on supported Processors

Drive Bays

(2) 3.5″ Removable Drive Bays (left side, covered with removable cover)
(2) 3.5″ Removable Drive Bays (right side, covered with removable cover)
(2) 3.5″ Drive Bays, fixed for Internal Hard drive, floppy drive, DAT, ZIP, or other drives
(2) 5.25″ Drive bay for optical drives, or other devices (Left and Right side)

Expansion Slot(s)

Standard offering includes (1) PCIe 3.0/2.0 x16, (1) PCIe 3.0/2.0 x16 (operates at x4 max), (2) PCIe 3.0/2.0 x1 and (2) PCI
Other options available, contact us for your needs.

Removable Storage

DVDRW/CDRW Optical Drive offered standard (uses 1 x 5.25″ Bay)
Optional support for all Standard 5.25″ Optical Disk Drives
Optional DVDRW/Blu-Ray Burner
Optional Removable drive bay with Key locking (uses 5.25″ expansion bay)

LCD Monitor

20.1″ TFT Display, 250 nits
1600 x 1200 Native Resolution
700:1 Contrast Ratio
View Angles, 85/85/85/85 (U/D/L/R degrees)
DVI or VGA controller board to interface to Video

Onboard integrated video, max. shared memory of 1GB, supports up to 3 displays simultaneously
Includes DVI-D (Digital Only), VGA / HD-15 and HDMI ports
DVI-D max. resolution 1920 x 1200 @ 60 Hz
VGA / HD15 max. resolution 1920 x 1200 @ 60 Hz
HDMI max. resolution 4096 x 2160 @ 24 Hz / 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz
Optional PCIe Graphics Adapter, Multiple monitor support, Quad or higher Video Options available

Onboard 8-Channel High Definition Audio CODEC
Built-in amplified Stereo Speakers

Onboard 10/100/1000Base-T Gigabit LAN, RJ-45
Optional support for Fiber, 10GB, Wireless and more

(1) Optional onboard DB9 Serial / RS232
(2) – USB 2.0 / 1.1 Ports (rear-mount)
(2) – USB 3.0 / 2.0 Ports (rear-mounted)
(2) – USB 2.0 / 1.1 ports (front-mount)
(1) – USB 5Gb/s port, Type C (supports 3A power output)
(1) RJ45 10/100/1000 BASE-T Gigabit LAN Port
(3) Audio Jacks (Input, Output and MIC)
(2) PS/2 ports for Keyboard & Mouse
(1) PS/2 Mouse port
(1) VGA / HD-15 Video
(1) DVI-D (Digital Only)
(1) HDMI

Power Supply

100-240 VAC, 50Hz – 60Hz, 650W power supply (standard)
Meets 80PLUS Bronze
Optional DC input available (Call Stealth for your requirement)

Operating Systems

Windows 7 (32 and 64-bit)
Windows 10 (64-bit)
Windows 8.1 (32 and 64-Bit)
Windows Server 2008
Windows Server 2012 R2
Ubuntu Linux
Please contact us directly for any special requirements

Solid State Drives (SSD) SATA
Removable drive bays
SCSI interface and hard drives
SAS (Serial attached SCSI) Drives and controllers
Slide Rails
DC input power options
3rd Party I/O Cards including RS232, RS485
3rd Party Video or Acceleration Cards
Video capture or input cards
Contact us with any request for configuration

Chassis Description

Rugged Heavy Duty Aluminum Alloy Chassis with Rubber Corner Bumpers

Cooling Fans

(2) 100mm Fans

Operating Relative Humidity (non condensing) 20-90%
Operating Temperature: 0 – 45C (32 to 113 F)
Storage Temperature: -20~60C (-4~140F)
Storage Relative Humidity (non condensing) 10-90%

20.0″ W x 15.25″ H x 9.25″ D (508mm x 387.35mm x 244.95mm)

Approx. 65 lbs depending on configuration

1 Year limited Warranty Standard

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Oceans: Some reef shark populations drop 90 percent

‘People and sharks don’t mix’

Curious gray reef sharks (Carcharhinus amlyrhynchos) at Kure Atoll in the Papahanaumokuakea Marine National Monument, Hawaii were studied as part of a study published April 25 in the journal Conservation Biology. PHOTO COURTESY P. AYOTTE.

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SUMMIT COUNTY — Reef shark numbers have plummeted by more than 90 percent around some populated islands in the Pacific, according to an international research team that surveyed 46 U.S. Pacific islands and atolls during the past decade.

The numbers are sobering, said Marc Nadon, a researcher at the Joint Institute for Marine and Atmospheric Research at the University of Hawaii.

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Client machines may fail to boot into PXE if System Center Configuration Manager Service Pack 2 has been applied

Consider the following scenario:

  • An operating system is deployed to a client computer in a System Center Configuration Manager 2007 Service Pack 2 (SP2) environment.
  • You try to deploy another operating system to the same client within one hour of the previous deployment.

In this scenario, the deployment process fails. On the client side, the computer tries to restart from the local hard disk instead of from the Pre-Boot Execution Environment (PXE) image.

Additionally, the following message may be logged in smspxe.log:

Loaded PXE settings from reg key HKLM\Software\Microsoft\SMS\PXE:
PXE Settings:
    IsActive: Yes
    SupportUnknownMachines: No
    MACIgnoreListFile: <empty>
    ResponseDelay: 0
    CacheExpire: 3600
    HTTP Port: 80
    HTTPS Port: 443
    IISSSLState: 0x0
    BindPolicy: Exclude <empty>
    TRK: <non empty>
    SiteSignCert: <empty>
    Root CA Certs: <empty>
    PXE GUID: fab8bfcc-3b15-431a-828d-fbfd184c3813
    PXEPassword: <empty>

This problem occurs because of a PXE cache limitation (of 1 hour) if System Center Configuration Manager 2007 Service Pack 1 (SP1) has been upgraded to SP2 after the hotfix that is described in KB 969113 has been applied in a Configuration Manager 2007 SP1 environment.

Important This article contains information about how to modify the registry. Make sure that you back up the registry before you modify it. Make sure that you know how to restore the registry if a problem occurs. For more information about how to back up, restore, and modify the registry, click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:

322756 How to back up and restore the registry in Windows

To resolve this cache limitation, you must change a registry value on the computer on which the ConfigMgr PXE service point role is installed. To do this, follow these steps:

  1. Click Start, type regedit in the Start Search box, and then click regedit in the Programs list.

    Note If you are prompted for an administrator password or for confirmation, type the password or provide confirmation.
  2. Locate and then select the following registry subkey:

  3. Right-click CacheExpire, and then click Modify.

  4. Configure the cache expire value. For example, set the value to 120 seconds (two minutes). To do this, follow these steps:

    1. In the Value data box, type 120.
    2. In the Base area, click decimal.
    3. Click OK.
  5. Exit Registry Editor.
  6. Restart the Windows Deployment Services Server service.

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Screws v. United States
325 U.S. 91 (1945)

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U.S. Supreme Court

Screws v. United States, 325 U.S. 91 (1945)

Screws v. United States

No. 42

Argued October 20, 1944

Decided May 7, 1945

325 U.S. 91

1. Upon review of a judgment affirming the conviction, for violation of § 20 of the Criminal Code and conspiracy thereunto, of local law enforcement officers who arrested a negro citizen for a state offense and wrongfully beat him to death, the judgment is reversed with directions for a new trial. Pp. 325 U. S. 92-94, 325 U. S. 113.

Opinion of DOUGLAS, J., in which the CHIEF JUSTICE, MR. JUSTICE BLACK and MR. JUSTICE REED concur:

2. Section 20 of the Criminal Code, so far as it penalizes acts which "willfully" deprive a person of any right secured to him by the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, is to be construed as requiring a specific intent to deprive of a right which has been made specific by the express terms of the Constitution or laws of the United States or by decisions interpreting them; and, as so construed, the section is not unconstitutional as lacking an ascertainable standard of guilt. P. 325 U. S. 101.

3. The trial court erred in not instructing the jury that, in order to convict, they must find that the defendants had the purpose to deprive the prisoner of a constitutional right. In determining whether that requisite bad purpose was present, the jury would be entitled to consider all the attendant circumstances -- the malice of the defendants, the weapons used in the assault, the character and duration of the assault, the provocation, if any, and the like. P. 325 U. S. 106.

4. Although no exception was taken to the trial court's charge, the error was so fundamental -- failure to submit to the jury the essential elements of the only offense on which the conviction could rest -- that this Court takes note of it sua sponte. P. 325 U. S. 107.

5. In making the arrest and in assaulting the prisoner, the defendants acted "under color of law," within the meaning of § 20 of the Criminal Code. P. 325 U. S. 107.

Defendants were officers of the law who had made an arrest, and it was their duty under the law of the State to make the arrest

Page 325 U. S. 92

effective. By their own admissions, they made the assault in order to protect themselves and to keep the prisoner from escaping.

140 F.2d 662, reversed.

CERTIORARI, 322 U.S. 718, to review a judgment affirming convictions for violation of § 20 of the Criminal Code and conspiracy.

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Sweeney Mole & Gopher Spray 32 oz

Mfg.# 8002
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Repelling moles and gophers quickly and easily. This hose-end spray contains 100% castor oil that repels unwanted yard destroyers. To use, attach garden hose to the self-dispensing container and spray over mole-infested area. A 32 oz container covers 10,000 square feet.
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Our pedestal drawers feature 2 dividers and the largest capacity, making it easy to store more and stay organized.
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Like much of Ireland, there are plenty of good deals on broadband in Culfadda, Sligo to be found, it's just a case of finding the right deal and the right package.

There are a number of internet service providers that offer broadband packages in Culfadda, with each of the big providers offering a number of different packages. Some of the larger providers in the area include:

The type of package to go for will depend on your preferences. Some people only want the highest speeds while others may prefer to sacrifice the highest speeds for a lower cost alternative. Price, speed, download usage and length of contract are usually the main factors to consider when it comes to your broadband choice.

The cheapest broadband in Culfadda

For consumers on a budget, the only thing they're concerned about when it comes to broadband is cost, cost, cost. Prices are coming down all the time, meaning that there are plenty of cheap broadband options in Culfadda.

For the absolute cheapest broadband in Culfadda, Sligo, consumers need look no further than Europasat and, more specifically, the Europasat SES L broadband package.

This broadband package will cost you €14.95 per month, saving you money in the long run against other more expensive options. For a lower price however, with lower cost broadband packages you will often get lower download speeds and or lower download limits compared with most higher spec packages.

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Many broadband users, especially those who watch videos online or download a lot of films and TV shows, are looking for speed over price. Broadband speeds are getting faster all the time, making it cheaper than ever to access high-speed internet.

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My Intro to Myths!!!

By Matthew Nguyen

What is a myth?

A myth is a traditional story created in ancient times. Myths often explain natural events like lightning storms or tornadoes. Some myths also have lessons of how to behave or to be treated. Others are just purely for entertainment. Many popular myths are from greek mythology.

Who is Dionysus?

Dionysus -or Bacchus- was the god of wine and grape-harvesting. He was the son of Zeus and a mortal named Semele. His mom, Semele died from Zeus's lightning bolt before she gave birth to Dionysus so Zeus developed Dionysus in his thigh and gave birth to the baby a second time. He was raised by nymphs after Zeus had sent Dionysus there. Dionysus was the youngest of the gods. He was not the wisest and was very hot-headed. Dionysus could create drinks in mid-air and harvest perfect grapes. He was normally seen bearded, wearing just a robe, and with a grapevine around his head, worn like a crown. He had brown hair and was very popular for hosting parties. Dionysus also represents the outstanding features of other religions. He was a shapeshifter. His favorite form was being a handsome, young man wearing beautiful, expensive jewels.

What Are Harpies?

Harpies are birdlike creatures who have stolen whatever the had.They have an ugly human face. They live on stealing. Harpies were sent to the world by Zeus after King Phineus revealed to much about the oracle and Theseus. Zeus punished him by blinding King Phineus and letting the harpies steal food out of his hands before he could get to it. They stole all of the kings goods but were driven off by the wind spirits, Caillas and Zetes. Harpies were once described as beautiful winged maidens. Now they are old lady monsters that are known for robbing. They were the personification of the storm winds.

What is the myth, "King Midas and his Golden Touch"?

Once upon a time, Dionysus and his friendly satyr, Silenus found themselves passing the city of Phrygia. Silenus was tired and wanted to rest so the duo walked into the city. The king of Phrygia, King Midas, recognized Dionysus for his outstanding jewels he wore on his clothes and robe. The king gladly invited Dionysus to stay the night at his castle and Dionysus and Silenus gladly excepted. For King Midas's generosity, Dionysus granted the king one wish. The king thought carefully. His favorite thing ever in the world was money, gold. He wished that anything he touched would become gold. Dionysus warned King Midas of what this could do but the king was sure of his wish. The next morning, Dionysus and Silenus set off. King Midas was super excited of his gift! He decided to touch his coffee table. To his delight, it turned gold! The king ran around his house, touching random things until he was really tired. He went to go grab a grape, but when he touched, it turned to solid gold! His daughter than came in the room, and King Midas was delighted to see her. He went to give her a hug, but when he touched her, she turned to gold. King Midas was scared and sad. He begged to Dionysus to free him of this curse and undo everything he had done. Dionysus told him to wash his hands of gold in the Pactolus river, so that is what he did. As soon as his hand's touched the water, golden water streamed out from his hands and onto the banks of the river. King Midas came back to his palace and it turned back to normal! His daughter was moving again! From that day on, he stopped being so greedy for money and he died a prosperous king, who his people mourned and loved.

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teen suicides...

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some feel like they have no choice

Some teenagers believe they have no choice but to commit suicide to deal with all their problems. Some kids think they have no friends and they get pushed around all the time. The main reason your bullied is to make themselves feel better. If you think that you are being bullied then you should tell your parents or a teacher. Don't let them hurt you though life's to short.

Well I have something to tell you. Don't let them get you down prove to them your strong show what you truly are made of. This may be the toughest battle of your short life but don't let them take your life its worth living you just have to be strong. Also remember don't let others convince you to do that sort of thing. I hope I can change your mind. I also hope that you put forward a effort to help others not even think about committing suicide.

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Smart talk, no action … hey it’s Obama trademark talking.

Well… Everyone but Barack and Michelle Obama.

Does he ever do any work? About that economy thingy?

The Obama family is currently on the vacation a month plan.

The Weekly Standard reported:

In the first three months of the year, members of the first family have been on three vacations, averaging a vacation a month. And now it’s being reported that the first daughters are on a spring break vacation in the Bahamas.

The Obamas began the new year in Hawaii. “Obama played FIVE rounds of golf with SEVEN different partners, spending roughly THIRTY hours on TWO different courses on Oahu. The president made FIVE early morning trips to the gym at the nearby Marine Base at Kaneohe Bay. The First Family spent TWO afternoons enjoying the beach on the base and went for ONE hike to a local waterfall. The president spent ONE father-daughter afternoon with Malia and Sasha, bowling and going out for shave ice, an annual tradition.”

Then the first lady and their daughters vacationed in Aspen over President’s Day weekend… While the rest of the family was in Colorado, Obama went to Florida for a golf weekend… And now it’s being reported that the first daughters are on Spring Break in the Bahamas.

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The Amazon Fire Phone comes with a 4.7-inch display, Android 4.2.2 Jelly Bean out of the box, a 13 megapixel rear facing snapper and is great value for money if your main strategy is buying a new smartphone with fast mobile data support, high RAM, Quad core processor and a large display. That said, it is getting older now and if you are getting bored with touring around the stock operating system you might prefer installing custom firmware.

Since this device is not getting timely updates, you want to check if third-party developers are creating custom firmware which boosts the OS to newer version such as KitKat or Lollipop.

Fire Phone

Before we advance that far it’s best to check out the essentials. That way you know what you are doing, everything you need, and what to do to get out of trouble. There’s also more links included to sources which you might find useful toward the end.

  • Enable the USB Debugging mode. The FP has its own version of Android OS namely the v3.5. You can still access the debugging mode after the guide here for Lollipop.
  • Backup the device by using a trusted third-party application from the Google Play store. We prefer the Helium application above all others. That said, there are loads of other great options. You can use any of them.
  • Usually we insist you use a Windows PC for most guides. However, that isn’t the case here. You can transfer the files from any operating system on any computer, notebook or laptop, so long as it comes with a working USB slot in the side.
  • You must connect the smartphone to the side of the computer and set up a connection that way.
  • Don’t start unless you have enough battery power to see through the flashing. You are not staying connected to the desktop PC during the guide. The rooting package is taking over the operating system independently on its own without a USB connection when we run the program.
  • The Amazon Fire phone was one of hour favorite smartphones last year which came from an unorthodox manufacturer. Most people lack respect for the Amazon name without understanding they are the largest online retailer.

How to use Towelroot to root the Amazon Fire Phone in under a few minutes

  1. Download the rooting package from here.
  2. Do not extract the zip file. leave it as it is on the desktop of the computer.
  3. Connect the fire Phone to the computer using the USB cable.
  4. Transfer the zip file over to the internal storage SD card.
  5. Run the rooting program on the phone.
  6. tap over the ‘make it ra1n’ button and wait for the flashing to start and finish.
  7. The smartphone should automatically reboot.
  8. Download SuperSU from the Google Play Store.

Once you are finished with unchaining the system internals you can download and install a root checker application from the same Google Play application store. You can check out our favorite version by reading up on it here.

Nice One! That’s all you need to start flashing custom ROMS and installing extra applications from GPS. There’s at least fifty apps worth installing. Some of them can help with performance such as boosting the GPU and overclocking the CPU. Otherwise are just fun and useful to use. There are no limits!


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Rumor: Call of Duty 5 takes place in…

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Rumors are trickling in about Treyarch’s next installment to the Call of Duty series will jump back to WWII, but it will set place somewhere in the Pacific. I don’t quite remember the happenings of the Pacific during WWII, but I’m sure whatever Treyarch has in mind will be off the charts. Well, at least I hope it is. COD 4 is pretty badass as well as previous versions so here’s to hoping, folks.

Call Of Duty 5 Heading For The Pacific? [Kotaku]

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Beyond The Maquiladora: A Look At Mexico’s Startup Scene

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Beyond The Maquiladora: A Look At Mexico’s Startup Scene

It doesn’t take an advanced finance degree to understand why Mexico is projected–by Goldman Sachs, among others–to represent the world’s fifth largest economy by 2050.

The most populous Spanish-speaking country in the world, Mexico has booming ports on both oceans, abundant natural resources, a longstanding, well-developed industrial sector, close business ties to the United States, and easy access to the burgeoning US Latino population (with their soon-to-be $1.5 trillion in buying power).

But one thing that tends to get lost in this predictive calculus is that, even after just a few years of gestation, Mexico already boasts one of the more dynamic startup scenes in Latin America.

If Mexico is indeed moving beyond the maquiladora manufacturers and their free trade zones in the process of building the world’s next great economy, technology and innovation will be a part of the foundation of that economy.

Startup Origin Story

In 2006, some 50 individuals were selected by TechBA, an international business development program birthed out of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), to make the 2,000-mile trip from Mexico to Silicon Valley and learn about startup entrepreneurship at its global proving grounds.

The result of this early cultural interchange was the Super Happy Dev House movement in Mexico City, which, despite the silly name, helped lay the groundwork for almost a decade of precipitous domestic growth in Mexico.

Following 2008’s Mexico Web 2.0 conference and the emergence of the new “Tequila Valley” movement, two of the first TechBA participants, Santiago Zavala and Cesar Salazar, who started the Super Happy Dev House, partnered with Silicon Valley entrepreneur David Weekly to found the Mexican.VC accelerator. It was an early attempt to address the nascent startup scene’s lack of funding.

Mexican.VC was eventually acquired by 500 Startups in 2012, and remains a fixture in country’s startup scene to this day. In the meantime, the fund played an important role, alongside the venture capital firm Alta Ventures in financing Mexico’s first batch of serious startups.

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From left to right: 500 Startups Partners Cesar Salazar, Juan Lopez Salaberry, Santiago Zavala, and Operations Director Rene Lomeli

Venture capital didn’t reach a meaningful threshold in Mexico until 2009, when the Mexican Association of Venture Capital and Private Equity (MEXCAP) held its first conference in Mexico City. Soon after, Hernan Fernandez, widely considered the most influential angel investor in Mexico, founded Angel Ventures, which established a network not just of angel investors but also traditional businessmen willing to contribute capital to innovation projects as limited partners.

The creation of the independent government policy center, the National Institute of Entrepreneurship (INADEM), in 2013, signaled the emergence of a self-sustaining–if still evolving–startup ecosystem.

Mexico City: The Capital

With over 22 million people and counting, Mexico City is one of the largest cities, not simply in Mexico, but the entire world. It’s a global financial center, cosmopolitan cultural mecca, and an important political capital. That it is also the focal point of Mexican entrepreneurship is only to be expected.

For Cesar Salazar, the city’s dominance extends beyond even Mexico’s expansive national territory. “Mexico City is by far the most active and rapidly growing startup hub in the Spanish-speaking world,” the 500 Startups partner told me.

Salazar oversees investments in over 25 companies that have raised over $200K in funding or that have revenues in the hundreds of thousands, and he estimates that nationally, 100 or more startups have emerged to meet this standard in the past four years alone. While the Mexican government did not respond to requests for exact national or local figures, Salazar agrees with other leaders that Mexico City sees the large bulk of those investments.

A well-recognized venture capitalist with a track-record that stretches across the United States, Latin America and Europe, Salazar brings valuable perspective to the Mexican startup culture. Since 2011, when he co-founded Mexican.VC, he’s watched the local landscape in the capital go from parched and disjointed to a flourishing young ecosystem as diverse and sprawling as the city itself, “a community driven effort that shows the world the power of citizen interconnectedness in creating a better future.”

“Mexico City is by far the most active and rapidly growing startup hub in the Spanish-speaking world.”
— Cesar Salazar

Many of the city’s startups are concentrated in the Roma and Condesa areas, although co-working spaces like the public-private accelerator StartupMexico; the well-regarded Centraal; and the social-leaning ImpactHub are important landmarks, creating a sense of unity in what can be an overwhelming metropolis.

Hackathons and community-building events offer another good setting to gauge the impressive range of ideas and talent the city has already accumulated. Startup Weekend, spearheaded by Gustavo Alvaro Moreno, opened its first international office in Mexico City in 2012, from which it organizes over 50 nationwide events a year. Entrepreneur Week, put on by the national government, features conferences and ecosystem-themed exhibitions and draws talent and experts from across the country.

Gustavo Moreno of UP Global (parent company of Startup Weekend), which hosts over 50 events annually in Mexico.

Gustavo Moreno of UP Global (the parent company of Startup Weekend), which hosts over 50 events annually in Mexico.

And even its detractors will acknowledge that the presence of the Mexican government makes a major difference in the Mexico City scene. INADEM’s focus may be national, but its headquarters are in the federal capital, and entrepreneurs say that makes it easier to access the officials responsible for top-down planning and integrated support.

In 2014, INADEM distributed some $658M to an estimated 620,000 entrepreneurs, micro, small, and medium businesses, leading to the creation of 6,000 new companies and 73,000 new jobs, according to government statistics. Itzel Villa, a high-level INADEM official, explained to me that public spending in the sector is prioritized by region and allocated across five key discretionary frameworks–regional development, business development, high-impact financial and entrepreneurial culture (in which the government often supplements private fundraising rounds), medium and small business projects, and technology access for micro business.

“INADEM is supporting around 20 seed funds, and has partially participated in probably 8-10 other funds as investors,” Diego Serebrisky, from Alta Ventures, told me.

More than anything else, though, what sets Mexico City apart is its track record of producing successful companies and attracting prominent sources of capital.

Conekta, an online payment technology aggregator, is one of a number of local startups to eventually expand nationally, now working with some of Mexico’s top companies. Kichink, an e-commerce platform, has helped over 20,000 companies take their businesses digital, and Clip, a mobile payment mechanism, raised $1.5M in funding in 2013.

One of the city’s well-regarded entrepreneurs, Cristina Palacio has co-founded two noteworthy startup successes: Aventones, a now-international carpooling app originally designed as a solution to Mexico City’s notorious congestion and smog problems, and Rides, another collaborative travel app that connects people planning longer trips to common destinations.

Santiago Zavala, one of Cesar Salazar’s partners at 500 Startups, is another major figure in the city, as are Hernan Fernandez of Angel Ventures, Adriana Tortajada of INADEM, Erik Perez Grovas of Jaguar Ventures, Pilar Aguilar of Endeavour, and Fernando Lelo de Larrea of Venture Partners.

Monterrey: The Money Center

Cesar Salazar, the 500 Startups Partner, is adamant that, because of the country’s location, Mexico’s startup ecosystem is uniquely positioned to “work in conjunction with the Bay Area in a way no other economy or ecosystem can.”

It follows that Monterrey, tucked against the Gulf of Mexico just below San Antonio, stands to benefit more than most.

Serebrisky, the Managing Director of Monterrey’s Alta Ventures, certainly thinks so. “Each large city has its own characteristics,” he told me. Mexico City may have the “most dynamic tech startup scene.” But, due in part to its proximity to the United States, Monterrey “is booming,” too.

That said, any explanation for how Monterrey, with just over one million people, has managed to keep pace with its capital megacity counterpart also has to highlight what Diego refers to as the city’s “entrepreneurial spirit.”

Mexicans from across the country know the people of Monterrey to be industrious and driven, perhaps a bit more insular than the rest of the country but always ahead of the ball business-wise. Not for nothing is “work tempers the spirit” the city’s official motto.

What the Monterrey scene lacks in sheer size and variability, it makes up for with a high density of investment, particularly for family offices.

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Diego Serebrisky of Alta Ventures.

Alta Ventures, founded by Rogelio de los Santos, is one of the country’s most reputable venture capital firms, standing squarely in the center of a nation’s investment ecosystem that, last year, produced at least 35 deals that raised over $20M, according to Diego. Naranya, an accelerator and early-stage co-investor led by Pablo Salazar, is another common name throughout the country.

Cowork is the city’s most recognized co-working space, and the most cited institutional leader at the university level is the Instituto Tecnologico de Monterrey, which, with 28 campuses across the country, is one of the most prestigious universities in all of Latin America.

“Tec de Monterrey”, as it’s known, has taken an active role in fomenting startup entrepreneurship and sponsoring events, not just in Monterrey, but also at its various other campuses throughout the country.

To understand the potential waiting to be unlocked in the city’s engineering sector, you need look no further than WePow, a leader in video and mobile recruitment, Sidengo, a DIY website builder, and the local ImpactHub incubator, the latter two both founded by traditional engineers–Jorge Gonzalez in the former case and Andrea Yriberry in the latter.

 Guadalajara: The Engineering Hub

Forty years before anyone had heard the word “startup,” back when Silicon Valley itself was still in its early stages, Hewlett-Packard became the first in a long line of major US tech companies to set up an operation in Guadalajara.

General Electric, IBM, Intel, Oracle, and Kodak have all followed suit since, leading an influx of direct foreign investment that, starting in the 1990s, has transformed Guadalajara into one of the leading tech manufacturing and service centers in the world.

This process has snowballed, bolstering Guadalajara’s deserved reputation for putting out some of the best engineers in Mexico. With a three-year, $177M investment into a new research and development facility, Intel is leading a trend of companies looking to Guadalajara.

“We need more specialized entrepreneurs, because many of the things I’ve seen that startups are creating are very general–e-commerce, etc–so I think as a region we need to find a real niche, and Internet of Things could really be that.”
— Ruy Cervantes

The local economy is still oriented toward fulfilling the needs of these big foreign investors rather than leveraging the city’s logistical advantages and favorable labor market for its own purposes, but currently the government is working on changing that.

As part of an attempt to set Guadalajara apart as its most specialized tech hub, the Mexican government is investing millions in a new downtown tech district for the country’s second biggest city. Ongoing construction in the Ciudad Creativa Digital is budgeted at almost $20M this year, according to government figures. Once finished, the district will feature co-working spaces, development and research labs, and other facilities oriented toward bringing Jalisco’s growing community together.

Already, there are encouraging signs that the city is heading in the right direction. The city is “light years away difference from what we had 3 years ago,” Ruy Cervantes, a University of California Irvine PHD who wrote his doctorate on the history of the Mexican innovation ecology, told me.

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Former President Felipe Calderón Hinojosa giving a presentation at the Ciudad Creativa Digital.

Whereas in 2011, there was just one venture capital firm in the city, with little more than a nominal interest in tech investments, today Guadalajara now boasts four sizable firms investing in the tech sector.

Cervantes, who has since signed on to lead the state of Jalisco’s Center for Innovation and Economic Development (CIADE), estimates there are around 26 communities throughout Jalisco, with 3,000-5,000 participants, depending on how you measure participation. As many as 10 startups have reached A or B funding rounds. One hundred more, he said, are transitioning through earlier stages.

Originally founded by Cervantes himself, HackerGarage, the first co-working space in the Guadalajara metropolitan area, is still an important site. Reto Zapopan, a government-funded promotional agency and accelerator, has regular incoming startup batches and an annual events calendar that draws international attention.

Mak Gutierrez, the general director of Hackers & Founders’ local group, is another figure who has helped shaped the Guadalajara scene, along with Rodrigo Ramirez, the general director of Gain, an angel investor network, and Andy Keiffer, who created the Agave Lab development agency.

Like Monterrey, Guadalajara boasts an excellent engineering school in the Universidad de Guadalajara. Cervantes hopes that with the right encouragement, today’s engineering students will emerge from Guadalajara’s manufacturing sector as tomorrow’s internet of things innovators.

“We need more specialized entrepreneurs, because many of the things I’ve seen that startups are creating are very general–e-commerce, etc–so I think as a region we need to find a real niche, and Internet of Things could really be that.”

Closing Thoughts

Mexico, of course, is not without its problems, and these invariably carry over into the startup scene. Corruption and indifference, as evidenced most dramatically in the case of Mexico’s missing “43,” are still pervasive.

And investors are still far too averse to risk–too wedded to traditional investment strategies, based on numbers, to capitalize on good ideas in the innovation sector. According to 500 Startups partner Juan López Salaberry, it remains very challenging for startups looking to raise more than $500,000 in funding.

Some in the investment community have complained that the large investments from the government have discouraged private sector capital.

And as is the case in much of Latin America, there is the classic chicken and egg dilemma holding back overall growth: There aren’t enough success stories to draw enough venture capital for there to be more success stories…and so on.

That isn’t to say that success stories don’t exist, or that the country isn’t poised to produce more. Metros Cubicos, an online marketplace, was bought by CNN, Medio Tiempo, the sports news website, was sold to Grupo Expansion, and has since been acquired by Warner Brothers. Jordi Munoz, alongside Wired founder Chris Anderson, co-founded 3DRobotics.

Mexican entrepreneurs have these and other models to aspire to. Infighting within the scene is down, and there has never been such an extensive pool of talent to draw from–Mexico produces some 130,000 engineers per year, more than Canada, Brazil, or even Germany.

Crossover from global industry has never been higher, either, and top-down promotional, educational, and entrepreneurial programs throughout the country are fleshing out the startup landscape. With any luck, today’s engineers will become tomorrow’s innovators.

Editor’s Note: Conrad Egusa is the CEO of PublicizeSteven Cohen is a freelance writer and earlier was an Editor at Colombia Reports.

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When a user connects to a public folder store that does not contain a copy of the public folder content that the user is looking for, Exchange redirects or refers the user to another public folder store that does have a copy of the content. By default, Exchange tries to redirect the user to a server in the local routing group. If those servers do not have the required content, Exchange follows the organization's routing group topology to find an appropriate server. Exchange finds an appropriate server based on the most efficient routing path, using costs of connectors between routing groups.

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Posted by Miqe on April 4, 2007

TEN years ago, Phil Elliott got bored with breeding fish. From that, developed a penchant for pythons.

It started with two baby pythons. Now his backyard reptile haven accommodates 30 pythons, four dragon species of lizard, two legless lizards, five goannas and two geckos.

In addition, he has a dozen guinea pigs, a couple of rosellas and two cats.

“It’s quite a little menagerie,” Mr Elliott said last week.

The modest Newport home he shares with his “very understanding” partner is soon to be extended, along with the wildlife accommodation

During peak season, Mr Elliott breeds up to 100 mice and rats each week just to feed the pythons.

“It’s a full time job on its own,” says the former engineer and now maintenance manager.

He is treasurer of the Victorian Herpetological Society, a reptile appreciation group with 130 members.

Members share a love for creatures regarded by many as slimy and damp.

“In actual fact they are clean and smooth,” Mr Elliott said affectionately.

Mr Elliott has always had some sort of animal, but first discovered his love for fish and reptiles during high school in Wales.

“I started to expand 10 years ago with fish, but I wanted to breed a more difficult species.”

“When I achieved that I lost interest in them, so I went back to reptiles with the thought of two.

“I found out fairly quickly it was even more addictive than fish.”

These days, the pythons occupy the couple’s spare room, the lizards have taken over the back shed, and the rodents sleep in the laundry.

The reptiles are treated as if they were in the wild, some weeks being fed a lot, other weeks not at all.

“It’s constant research – I’m building up a collection of books,” Mr Elliott said.

Visitors to the couple’s home tend to end up in one of two categories: freaked out or converted.

Because Mr Elliott “never shuts up” about his unusual passion, most of his friends know what to expect.

But when it comes to visiting tradesmen – of whom there have been a few lately – things can get interesting.

Mr Elliott said a kitchen renovator recently left the house with a new-found love of snakes, swearing he would soon start his own collection.

On the other hand, a visiting air conditioning expert couldn’t pack up fast enough, not even cleaning up after himself before darting out the front door.

For more information on reptiles, see the Victorian Herpetological Society website at

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Meditations on Sanctification As An Objective Act

September 13, 2011

The recent Edinburgh Dogmatics Conference provided me (and several of my compadres) with the opportunity to do some extended reflection upon the Christian doctrine of sanctification, and especially its relation to Christ’s work of justification and the rest of the ordo salutis. A number of papers (mine included) drew upon such figures as Karl Barth, Dietrich Bonhoeffer, and T.F. Torrance as resources for thinking a bit outside the traditional Protestant box on this topic. What I’d like to do here is simply cap off my conference experience with a bit of extended reflection on this.

Christian Perfection As Performance

First, a bit of biographical context: I was reared not just in the Wesleyan-Arminian tradition but in a very particular stream of it, one in which the doctrine of sanctification is absolutely central. The Church of the Nazarene is one of the major denominational inheritors of the holiness movement, which originated in the United States in the first half of the nineteenth century. Early holiness teachers like Phoebe Palmer drew upon Methodist resources in preaching a doctrine of “entire sanctification.” In brief: According to Arminian theology, God first works upon the heart to convert the sinner (viz. the gift of prevenient grace, enabling her to mortify the flesh and turn to Christ) and lead her to justification. As historic Protestantism teaches, this inaugurates the process of sanctification, or Christian perfection, through which the believer is continually purified and shaped into the likeness of Christ.

The original stamp of the holiness movement, however, was to suggest a “second work of divine grace,” subsequent to justification, by virtue of which the believer may be entirely sanctified. Rather than a lifetime of working out one’s salvation, entire sanctification can come in a moment as a result of earnest prayer and openness to the fullness of God’s desire to bless and empower His people.  This should certainly be the goal of all believers.

Pair this with a child’s black-and-white worldview and sensibilities of doing good, and the shame of doing wrong, and you have a formula for legalism and sanctification portrayed in terms of human responsibility — and the guilt that inevitably comes from failure. Perfection in holiness (understood entirely in moral and performative terms) is the goal of living as a Christian man or woman, and every sin of commission and of omission, including every failure to maintain spiritual disciplines of Bible reading, prayer, church attendance, etc., is a profoundly deep failure to be a Christian.

Now I’m not suggesting that this is the normative or inevitable end of Wesleyan holiness teaching. But, in the absence of a well-balanced teaching ministry, it seems to me that children and young believers such as I was will likely end up with such an understanding of their own Christian life and their relationship with God. (Let’s teach our Wesleyan kids about the power of grace and forgiveness, the depravity of human nature, and the importance of eschatological consummation of their redemption, for example.)

As a result of my conversion to Reformed thinking in my mid-20s, I found it necessary to push to the topic of sanctification far from my eyes. I was basking in the freedom of divine grace — I had no patience to work out a more properly oriented and balanced doctrine of Christian perfection. I still find this subject difficult to reflect upon, and I confess that this is entirely because of my biography. And so I am seeking a doctrine of sanctification that is liberating (it ought to be a positive doctrine, right?!) and not condemning.

Sanctification Done For You

One theme that emerged from the conference, then, is a belief shared by many twentieth century thinkers that sanctification belongs with justification as a work that is already accomplished, objectively — without us and for our sake — by Jesus Christ. Rather than sanctification being anchored by the cross but effectively worked out on the subjective pole by the Holy Spirit (with the cooperation of the faithful believer), it is a part of the fuller work of redemption that Christ has already finished and made true of us. Just as we are justified in Christ, we are already sanctified in Christ.

At first blush this move has a lot to offer, but also some potential problems in how it might be worked out with respect to the Christian life. Does what we do matter at all to God? What of all the imperatives of Scripture — “be holy” and “be perfect”? I have some at least preliminary thoughts on this aspect of the discussion, if anyone wants to pick it up in the comments thread or thinks it is worth a second post.

To begin with, however, I’d like to focus on the benefits of this shift in thinking of sanctification as an objective, completed act of God in Christ. Certainly there is a subjective pole in the reconciliation of men and women with God — for as much as we live in community as the body of Christ (and not in and of and for ourselves), we are still individual men and women striving to life lives of faithful obedience to our Lord. And certainly there are biblical imperatives that direct us to this end. But the nagging sense I always had while in the Wesleyan tradition was that my reconciliation with God — my “salvation” itself, if you will — was contingent, if ever so slightly, upon my own contribution to it. Rather than saving me, Christ enabled me to be saved. Even where Christian perfection was pushed out of the sphere of salvation, the synergistic picture of my life in Christ remained.

Today, I don’t think this squares with the gospel. The work of Christ is not merely about opening the door of heaven to me; nor is it about merely getting me inside, leaving me to get my life transformed a little further on down the line. The work of Christ is reconciling, what Karl Barth described as the exaltation of human existence to fellowship with God. This is the sanctification of the Christian — returning her, as a prodigal, to the loving embrace of the Father. And not only returning her home, but putting on her the finest robes and a ring on her finger, making her fit for fellowship with God. She may still have a “part to play,” as it were: she must repent and live according to the new life she has been given, the favored state in which she has been placed by the Father’s grace. But the point of the gospel as I see it is that this is a work that has been done to her and for her. Her sanctification, in every theological sense of the word, comes to her from outside of herself and affects her transformation, and not vice versa.

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  1. September 14, 2011 3:04 am

    Sounds like some fruitful discussion. Yes, any subjective pole must rest on and draw from the objective. The objective work of Christ is revealed in our subjectivity, but not actualized by it. There are so many Christians who say Christ plus nothing, but that’s not really what they mean.

  2. September 14, 2011 4:00 am

    Hi Darren…
    Thanks for your post. I found your reflection on your own experience in growing up within the Holiness Tradition both honest but also consistent with many others I’ve heard. As a Salvation Army Officer, I’m very familiar with what you’ve described, but would suggest that it’s not necessarily the case for all. I’m sure you’ll agree with that.
    I’m not comfortable with sharp distinction between objective/subjective sanctification as I think it’s built upon a dualistic understanding of the relationship between God/Christ and creation, and indeed grace and nature. I find this underlying theology much more problematic than the suggestion that I may (or may not) be subjectively involved in my own justification/sanctification to any degree. This dualistic understanding of the relationship between God and creation, grace and nature, suggests that salvation is in fact “super-natural” (an adding of grace to nature), whereas I would suggest it’s better stated that it’s truly natural (and the opposite being that sin and evil are “un-natural”). So I can affirm the suggestion that I am involved in my salvation (call that subjectivism if you must), but only because I view grace and true nature as one. There is no nature apart from grace. Any ability that I have to do anything is, in fact, a graced ability, and so any “working out of one’s salvation”, any sanctification, any response to God is ultimately a work of grace.

  3. September 14, 2011 9:57 am

    Thank you for this inspiring post! Speaking for myself, I’m impressed by the work of Torrance (and also Barth and Bonhoeffer) in this regard. It has changed my talking about regeneration, for example.
    However, in the Netherlands we had A.A. van Ruler, who kept saying that in the end the ‘appropriation’ of our salvation can’t be understood in pure christological terms. What we need, is a pneumatological approach. I’m inclined to agree with him.
    The key question, so it seems to me, is how we can relate these two ‘poles’: the fulfilment of our sanctification in Christ and the ‘working out’ of that sanctification in our lives by the Holy Spirit.

  4. September 14, 2011 11:11 am

    One more remark (in addition to my former comment): I don’t mean with a pneumatological approach that our salvation becomes dependent upon our subjective efforts. But in the light of the New Testament, we should be able to articulate the way in which we may share in the salvation in Christ and how it is worked out in our lives. But, I realize, that’s nothing different from what you said yourself…😉

  5. September 14, 2011 4:05 pm

    Thanks Darren. Stirs up lots of stuff I’m thinking about too.

    As a fellow child of the holiness tradition I share similar biography with you, although in my particular stream it was the “crisis experience” (or baptism of the Holy Spirit) and the call to “deeper life” that were the emphasis rather than a presumed state of “entire sanctification” (although that was a clear and compelling hope). In this there were always differences of opinion about whether the “crisis experience” or the the “second blessing” was a one-time event or a progressive or recurrent experience, and to this extent I think there was something really valuable in it which might blend well with the emphasis you want to promote. More on that in a second.

    I resonate with the problem of legalism and guilt, and even though I don’t think it is unique to the holiness tradition, it takes on a prominent flavour since there is this need (via prayer or enthusiasm or what have you) to seek this crisis experience and so to enter this other part of Christianity. I think the big problem, probably even where legalism is not an issue, is that the connection of that “other part” (i.e. sanctification) with the first part (justification) is not wholly clear. Its like Jesus does this one thing, then we do this other thing. The forgiveness inspires the follow through, and gives a reboot, but the follow through is pretty much wholly on our shoulders as human agents.

    And so this is where I too find Barth and co. helpful. The sanctification and the justification both have God as the primary agent, and their “entirety” or actuality is not in doubt since God has indeed reconciled us to Godself in Christ (this being more than a statement of legal standing but also a reorientation of our entire being). But where does human agency come back in? What does the road of sanctification actually look like? That seems to me the question. And that’s where the holiness tradition might have something helpful to say.

    Inasmuch as justification and sanctification are a work of God in Christ that we accept by faith, then so the daily life of growth in God consists of that ongoing act of faith. There are, if you will, daily “crisis experiences” in which we must either obey in faith or go our own way. Prayer and Bible reading and life in Christian community and witness to the world — these are all options before us as we face the road of faith-ful living open before us by God’s grace — but they are not prerequisites to getting on that road, nor are they means to either an experience or an accomplishment of sanctification. They are simply what that road looks like, since Jesus is on that road ahead of us, having accomplished it on our behalf. Our place on that road is not in doubt, since it is new every morning, and so it is a matter of following, not ascending.

    Anyway, that’s a long response, but that’s where I think I want to go with what you are presenting.

  6. September 15, 2011 9:54 am

    Thanks for the comments, everyone. Athanasius96, I like your preference for “realized” over “actualized.” In this respect the conversion of the Christian is predominantly (though, I would argue, by no means exclusively) noetic. Through the work of the Holy Spirit, men and women come to recognize in faith that not only their status before God has been changed (their ‘forensic’ justification) but their nature as human subjects has, as well. The challenge of the Christian life is therefore not to become more and more sanctified, but to live according to one’s sanctification.

    Jon, you’re surely right to press in that direction. Faithful living, or the imperative of following Christ as one who obeys the will of the Father, is “what the road looks like.” I guess the point I’m wanting to stress now is that this subjective side emphasized by the Wesleyan tradition — which is wholly necessary and important for life in Christ — ought to be excluded from the doctrine of reconciliation. It is not the ‘subjective pole’ of the salvation we have in Christ; it is the result of that salvation, the road upon which we are placed.

    Adam, I’m not sure if that sort of redefinition of the objective/subjective dynamic satisfies your concern. But I take your point about sin and human nature (which is very much in line with Barth’s view) — that being sinners in need of redemption is not our ‘natural’ state but an imposition and subversion of the created order. Grace is the means of its restoration … though I wouldn’t be comfortable speaking of this grace as innately present in nature (a la Kuyper, et al) or otherwise accessible to us apart from God’s radical inbreaking in Jesus Christ.

    Arjen, thanks for sounding the pneumatological alarm. It’s important to keep the work of the Spirit in view here (whereas my original post could give the impression that the question is over whether or not the believer can attain to her sanctification all by herself). Whatever good I’m able to do in being a little better Christian today than I was yesterday is rightly attributed to the Spirit of God who is in me — and that’s another function of the one grace of God, that He does not save us and then leave us to go on our merry way as we were.

    I think the implied distinction between christology and pneumatology, however, is false: the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Christ, and the fact that the Spirit has His own mission or work shouldn’t suggest to us that this is a “second work” that is separate from the one work of redemption. That work is accomplished by Christ at all points, not by Christ and the Spirit working as a tag team to cover the objective and subjective poles.

  7. September 15, 2011 1:38 pm

    Darren, thanks for your reply. I appreciate your insistence on the one work of Christ. A division between Christ’s work and the work of the Spirit results all too often in an underestimation of the work of Christ.
    However, the question can be posed the other way around as well. What about the work of the Spirit? He hasn’t been poured out on all flesh in vain, has He?
    Let me put it otherwise. In his book ‘Incarnation Anyway’ Edwin Chr. van Driel claims that the category of ‘assumption’ is unhelpful for explaining the way in which we, human beings, share in salvation. Therefore, we need pneumatological categories like ‘inspiration’, ‘renewal’, ‘re-creation’, ‘imitation’ (p.141).
    In addition to his remarks I would mention somewhat different categories however, like ‘participation’, ‘sharing’, ‘union’. The question remains how to conceptualize that.

  8. September 15, 2011 3:12 pm

    Darren, I don’t see how you can exclude the subjective pole from the doctrine of reconciliation without excluding sanctification from it as well. By that do you just mean that it comes under another category, such as the doctrine of revelation? But aren’t we right back where we began, in that Jesus does this one thing and then the road that we’re placed on (ie. living a sanctified life) is this whole other thing? I don’t see how we can exclude the subjective from the doctrine of reconciliation without basically excluding ourselves in the process. Perhaps I just need to dig further into what you mean.

    Also, it should be noted that most of what we’re talking about here seems to gravitate toward an individualistic register. I think it informative to think about a people being sanctified (washed with pure water, as Ephesians 5 puts it), and us as individuals finding our way forward in Christ’s accomplishment as a part of that community which is realizing Christ’s sanctification of humanity as He goes on His way to full redemption. Something like that.

  9. Cody Lee permalink
    September 16, 2011 12:11 am

    Jon, I don’t mean to speak for Darren, but you don’t exclude the subjective pole from reconciliation, it is included in Christ. He has accomplished both sides, objective as well as subjective, and that is objective to us. Then our subjective side is a participation in all that Christ has accomplished on our behalf, thereby putting the full weight onto the Lamb. Reconciliation is objective to us, both the subjective as well as objective aspects are in Christ. I think that is the point.

  10. September 16, 2011 12:41 am

    That’s not what it sounded like, and you still have to talk about what the subjective participation looks like, no?

  11. Cody Lee permalink
    September 16, 2011 1:25 am

    Yes but his point is that the subjective side has nothing to do with the reality that we already are reconciled in Christ apart from even our own participation. Why that is precisely what we participate in.

  12. September 16, 2011 2:13 am

    I get that the work is done by Christ, I guess its this language of “excluded” and “nothing to do with” that is tripping me up. To me it seems like we are excluded altogether.

  13. September 16, 2011 8:45 am

    Cody, I think that’s right. Barth’s point (as an example) seems to be to exclude human activity from the locus of reconciliation (justification + sanctification), but not to exclude the subjective pole. If the objective side of redemption is what Christ did for the world, and the subjective side is how I as an individual am included in that, then both are complete in Christ, according to Barth.

    Now that doesn’t mean that there is nothing left for me to do. The gospel has an imperatival mood, as well, and this too we might locate at the ‘subjective pole.’ The difference is that this is excluded from the one work of reconciliation, and thus from the sanctification of men and women, as well. It’s still present; but dogmatically speaking it is located elsewhere.

    All this is to carefully specify that men and women are objects of reconciliation, and not in any way co-subjects (or prepositional modifiers, e.g. “God saved us … through our acceptance of Jesus Christ.”). Even at the subjective pole of reconciliation, the work is being done in and for them.

    And Jon, if you point out to me that Barth’s threefold form of the doctrine of reconciliation also includes the vocation of men and women, I won’t have an answer.😉 I suppose that ought to be run in terms of our being reconciled to God in Christ (our justification), through his exaltation of humanity (our sanctification), for obedience to the Father’s command (our vocation). That includes the objective and the subjective, the indicative and even the imperatival, but without allowing human agency or activity to be a constitutive part. Insofar as vocation is an aspect of our reconciliation, it is not because we do but because we are summoned to do. (But you’ve read more of IV.3 than I have, so tell me if any of this gives with your reading of volume IV as a whole.)

    The individualist critique is certainly worth making, but since I’ve been reading some odd covenant theology this week I’m not eager to speak strictly in terms of the community, either. But surely the subjective, individualized aspect of reconciliation is subordinate to the objective, universal work of Christ.

  14. September 16, 2011 8:56 am

    Arjen: The language of human inclusion is important to get right, I agree. I’d want to defer to a careful exegesis of Scripture to find the best language to refer to this. The Protestant traditions have certainly latched on to Paul’s “being in Christ” language to address this, but obviously even that needs to be worked out a bit further. One of the works of the Holy Spirit is to unite us with Christ (cf. Romans 8:9-11f.) and with one another (Phil. 2:1) — thereby, I would think, making Christ (or actualizing Christ as?) our true, representative head.

    The work of the Spirit is further implicated in the locus of Christian vocation. Believers are sent to the world to declare Jesus Christ in and by the power of the Holy Spirit (Acts 1:8 … actually, pretty much all of the book of Acts).

  15. Cody Lee permalink
    September 16, 2011 2:22 pm

    Darren, since salvation is both objective and subjective, would you agree that everyone is saved in one sense, but they are saved so that they will participate, and that is the one we have a role in making a response. The response does not cause anything ontologic to happen. It is where we are able by the Spirit to experience what is already true. By Christ being both the God-humanward, and the human-Godward acts of salvation, He has taken us with Him before and apart from anything we can do.

    The Spirit has been poured out upon all flesh, and now the Spirit is drawing all people to Christ. One can resist the Spiirit, or make the free response to follow Christ. I want to say that all people are already in Christ apart from the Spirit’s work, but that the Spirit brings another sort of inclusion, namely participation and experience of what is already true via the incarnation,

    What do you think?

  16. September 16, 2011 3:19 pm

    Darren, I guess I want to amplify Barth’s emphasis on the prophetic office of Christ (and yes, that’s in the volume on vocation) wherein we pay attention to what exactly Christ’s taking on of the subjective pole entails. Christ not only has accomplished our sanctification but is bringing it about, or is active in its realization today. In other words, Christ not only does the reconciling but also the revealing. And so He takes the subjective pole without taking it away from us. Rather he provides it for us not only once and for all but in an ongoing sense. This revelation is more than just noetic but is transformative, even though in our case the realization is provisional, being as we are in this time between the times (this middle parousia, if you will).

    Interesting here is the fact that Torrance’s critique (shared by many) of Barth’s fourth part-volume (on baptism) is that he too far divides the work of the Spirit from the response of the believer. But those critics also tend to think Barth gets this better in the posthumously published stuff when he puts human agency or participation under the rubric of invocation. The accomplishment of Christ as to our sanctification is not in doubt, but our participation involves our invocation of Christ’s work in our daily lives. I don’t know if this is making sense or even if you think I’m saying something different from you, but it does seem to me that we have to figure out how to hold together Christ’s accomplishment and our participation so that the realization of our sanctification is not some other thing wherein we are responding (i.e., imitatio) to a completed act that, for all intents and purposes, only informs our response but does not carry into it in the dynamic sense.

  17. September 16, 2011 8:52 pm

    I like what you’re saying, Jon! This is an important nuance to take not of. My concern, as well, as that there no longer remains any active aspect of sanctification for us; even if that us is given telos and trajectory in the humanity of Christ by the Spirit (Eph. 2). I think the way you just sketched this is fruitful.

  18. September 16, 2011 8:52 pm

    *take “note” of

  19. Cody Lee permalink
    September 17, 2011 3:13 am

    Jon, you said,

    ” Rather he provides it for us not only once and for all but in an ongoing sense. This revelation is more than just noetic but is transformative”

    Yes He provides it for us, but that’s not the same thing as what He has done. Let me explain. When He accomplished our sanctification, that was completely perfect and in our place because we couldn’t do it. So now what we are doing is not something different from what He has done for us, but by the Spirit we can participate in what has been done for us. It was done for us so that we could do it, but the hinge is not on us to ‘do it’, the Hinge is on Christ. Our salvation lies in Christ, not in our participation. Now granit, we cannot experience that salvation without participating, but our sanctification is a completed work. I think that is what Darren is trying to say. It’s objective to us, and we can participate in that, and should, and need to, but our salvation is not dependant upon us, but in what Christ has accomplished for us.

  20. Cody Lee permalink
    September 17, 2011 3:17 am

    Jon, I would also say that ‘now’ the problem does seem to be ‘noetic’ since ‘ontologically’ meaning in reality, we are not who we seem to be, but our lives are hidden in Christ, that would mean everyone. So the alienation of our minds is what the Spirit is breaking through in order for us to experience the salvation that is already ours.

    Like you said we live in the time between the times, and looks can be decieving. What is true, doesn’t show completely but is constantly breaking in by the Spirit. So yes there is a sense where ‘real’ changes are occuring, but they were already true.

  21. September 17, 2011 9:34 pm

    “we cannot experience that salvation without participating, but our sanctification is a completed work” — I thought that was what I was saying. Are we disagreeing here? I want to also say that this work is a work that Jesus is effecting in our day to day lives as well, and if we can’t describe this then I’m not sure we’ve really talked about sanctification all the way yet. The legalist can have a field day with the already-accomplished sanctification too.

    I think we need to be able to talk about what participation in our sanctification is … and how we as subjects are not excluded from this. And I think this is more than noetic, otherwise aren’t we saying that all it takes is a cognitive realization and then we follow suit with participation? I don’t feel very well served by that image of participation in sanctification. It doesn’t really ring true in my experience, and it doesn’t seem to do justice to the great commandment(s), among other things.

  22. Cody Lee permalink
    September 17, 2011 11:03 pm

    “And I think this is more than noetic, otherwise aren’t we saying that all it takes is a cognitive realization and then we follow suit with participation? I don’t feel very well served by that image of participation in sanctification. It doesn’t really ring true in my experience,”

    you shouldn’t build your theology from your experience. It’s not just a mental ‘realiztion’ though it is that, there is somehting about participation where we are actually becoming what we already are. The already is breaking into the not yet. The point though is that it is already complete, my sanctification that is, and we participate in that. It’s not as if my sanctification hinges on my participation, only the subjective aspect of it does.

  23. September 18, 2011 12:12 am

    Like I said at my site; I think a purely noetic understanding of salvation appeals to an intellectualist anthropology that needs some “affective” help. There has got to be more to this (not less, eh); and so I think Jon is onto something.

  24. Cody Lee permalink
    September 18, 2011 3:51 am

    Bobby I think your missing what I am really saying, let me try to explain.

    When I say the problem is “now” noetic, I don’t mean that there is not the aspect where the ‘already’ isn’t breaking into the ‘not yet’, as if we are already experiencing our ‘glorification’ and we just need to open our eyes. No sin is still running rampet and last time I checked people are still dying, and satan is still doing his thing. The thing I am saying is that what God has accomplished in Christ even though it doesn’t look like it is already true, and now it is slowly being ‘actualized’ and one day it will be completely ‘actualized’ wether you like it or not, know it or not, or participate or not. What God has accomplished in Christ is true about us wether or not it is our ‘experience’ and one day Christ will be all in all, and at that point yes it will be ‘noetic’, and in that case it is now as well, but now in this life by the Spirit we are participating in that already existant reality before it is actually fully realized. We are as Christians the people trapped in the time between the times, yet we are experiencing already the times to come, yet not fully.

    Christ has taken up our life in a way that what He has accomplished is true of us apart from any appropriation of that fact. You seem to really only want it to be true about Christ, and somewhat true about us. The fact of it is, is yes in this life more is going on than a ‘realization’ because by the Spirit we are participating in the new reality before it is actually completely revealed. The thing I am saying is that it will be ‘fully’ revealed, we will partake of the new humanity wether or not we even know Christ, and the only barrier at that point to then must be noetic. That would mean to say then, that is really the problem now, since this is an already existant reality, though yet not fully actualized.

    We are in it, yet not in it, but participate in it by the Spirit, and will be fully in it in the future.

    Therefor our salvation does not depend on anything we do. Christ is our savior, we need to realize that and trust in Him. He will actualize what He has already accomplished in due time, and it will be true of everyone, and yet not everyone will follow Christ for some strange reason. Alienation of the mind is the only problem now, and yet even that has been overcome, but yet we must accept Christ as our savior in order to experience it.

    This time between the times mystery is crucial for understanding this. Just because there is a not yet does not mean that it is our job to bring about the already. It will come around, you can participate now, and then, or not, that is purely up to the person, but their salvation does not hinge upon it, only their experience of their salvation.

  25. September 18, 2011 5:12 am

    I understand times between the times; or not now/not-yet. That’s not what I’m getting at. I simply believe there is more that needs to be said, in the vein that Jon is tapping into; and so that’s what I think. It’s not that I’m missing it.

    I think there are scriptural realities that need to be brought into your thinking—like the Great Commandment[s]—which will only help to thicken what you are saying.

    Plus, there is the anthropological issues that I think are important to consider further. That’s all I’m saying.

  26. September 18, 2011 5:13 am

    *I meant now/not yet; not “not now”😉 hehe.

  27. September 18, 2011 7:04 pm

    Cody, I appreciate the sharpening here. I feel like I’m pretty much on board with most of what you and Darren are saying. But I’m trying to figure out where we disagree.

    When you say “It’s not as if my sanctification hinges on my participation, only the subjective aspect of it does” I just want to say yes. But I actually want to go further and say that in the ongoing subjective aspect we are dealing with Christ’s work on our behalf as well. I would consider this ongoing subjective aspect as also a part of Christ’s sanctifying work in us. So it is not at all the case that I “only want it to be true about Christ, and somewhat true about us.” I agree that “our salvation does not depend on anything we do.”

    I think that we do have something to do with the subjective realisation of our sanctification in Christ, and it is more than noetic but involves our whole person and in fact our social environment too. That part that we play doesn’t add anything which Christ lacks, as if this is a zero-sum game between God’s agency and ours, and as such is our participation in His accomplished work, by our surrender to his ongoing actualization of it.

    Maybe this is where we differ? Basically I want to include an account of our agency in the doctrine of sanctification and I don’t think that necessitates a departure from God’s primary agency and accomplishement in that regard. I’m pretty sure I’m with Barth on this one, but I am open to those who might disagree. To be clear (I hope), I want to say that the work of Christ carries on in us, He is the primary agent and we have a secondary, participatory agency in it. Thus we can affirm that our sanctification is an accomplishment of Christ, but there is no dilemma between this and his ongoing revelation of Himself in our lives and communities.

    I don’t think I’m building theology off of experience, but trying to understand sanctification as something Jesus does once and for all times. Since an experiential deficit was how Darren framed his approach to the topic I thought I’d refer to the experiential fallout again. Actually, one of the things I like about what you and Darren are saying is precisely that I think it overflows in a better account of this subjective experience. Without this account I think we are prone to fill in the subjective aspect of sanctification with our own less-than-Christological self-help strategies (i.e. legalism, etc).

  28. Cody Lee permalink
    September 19, 2011 3:37 am

    Jon, I actually like what you’ve said here. There is the aspect where if we want to ‘experience’ our new life in Christ we must participate. We must have faith, repent, and live that life of obedience. The thing about that though is that is our response. That is how we enjoy what is ours. We actually by having faith are already participating in Christ’s faith by the Spirit. No one says Jesus is Lord except by the Spirit. The sheer fact that you may repent is your participation in Christ’s repentance on your behalf.

    The point is that we can do these things because Christ has already done them for us, and in our place. When He did it in our place, that means that in Him we are already the new man. The Spirit comes to help us live out that reality, not to make it a reality, because it already is.

    Christ has fulfilled both sides. He is God’s grace poured out for us, and our reception of that Grace. Sanctification is a done deal, as with justification and everything else. We are there, and by the Spirit we are able to live it. So you could say that our salvation is dependant upon our subjective sactification through our participation, but that would only be the subjective aspect of it, meaning our experience, because our salvation is an objective reality. All have been saved, in one sense, and yet we need to experience it, and that takes our participation.

    Christ has already sanctified us, and so now by the Spirit we participate in that sanctification and partake of it as our subjective experience.

  29. Cody Lee permalink
    September 19, 2011 3:44 am

    Jon, what do you think about the fact that all will be resurected? All will participate in the One resurection, wether or not they believe or even know who Christ is. This also implies that they will be resurected into that new humanity that Christ created through His death and resurection.

    So what do you think the problem for the reprobate will be at that point? The new humanity, and creation will be fully actualized, so do you think at that point the problem will be ‘noetic’?

  30. September 19, 2011 6:48 pm

    Cody, I don’t know if I want to go too far afield in Darren’s post without his participation, but the resurrection question definitely brings an interesting angle to the issues we’ve been talking about. My initial thought is that the “problem” at the resurrection for those who remain non-participants in Christ’s reconciliation is not stricly noetic. I imagine the resurrection would be to a new body of some kind but I can’t imagine it thriving in all the ways (social, emotional, intellectual, spiritual) that the resurrected bodies of the participants would. Might we not have some reason to believe that the resurrected will actually have the noetic part taken care of? In other words, they’ll recognize Jesus as Lord (ie. every tongue confess)? So then the issue would be their participation or lack thereof. I have found myself resonating with ideas I’ve heard recently which depicted the resurrected unsaved in similar terms as to those sent outside the city in the Old Testament. But those are just initial impressions from your question. Happy to hear others.

  31. September 20, 2011 2:21 am

    That sounds something like Robin Parry’s ideas on such things.

  32. Cody Lee permalink
    September 20, 2011 2:40 am

    Not really, Robin Parry thinks everyone will participate, no one has said that here.

  33. September 20, 2011 9:03 am

    Apologies to all for my absence from this thread these past few days. Let me just say a few things by way of catch-up, which I hope won’t be too repetitive or beating a dead horse.

    My main point is to exclude an active human participation in any aspect of the work of reconciliation, which is from start to finish a work of Jesus Christ (by the will of the Father, through the power of the Holy Spirit) alone. I see how this could be misunderstood, as if we have nothing to do with this reconciliation at all. What I’m talking about is active participation — i.e. we do something, will something, choose or accept something, in order to make our justification and/or our sanctification take place. In contrast, we certainly do participate passively — i.e. Christ is our head, the true man, and the work that he does, he does for us. Dogmatically speaking, if sanctification is properly a part of reconciliation, then Barth has seized sanctification out of the hands of striving men and women and restored it to its proper place. If it is our perfection, or the ‘exaltation’ of human existence, it belongs with the exalted Christ (and then us with him).

    Note that this trades on two less-than-traditional moves: 1) the objective work of Christ is not just our justification (one ‘moment’ in the ordo salutis, but our reconciliation (comprehending the whole of the ordo); 2) sanctification is defined in terms of the exaltation of human essence, i.e. the restoration of prodigal sons and daughters to the Father. Other aspects usually pinned to sanctification, such as Scriptures call to obedience, etc., ought to be relocated because they are not a part of the ordo salutis (even if they result from it).

    Whatever we describe in terms of human moral responsibility and imperative, then — and Scripture is clear that we must! — it needs to be called something else, and described in such a way that there is no suggestion of our active, causal participation in our reconciliation to God. So in IV/2 Barth turns to language of ‘conversion,’ which seems to be noetic but not strictly noetic. That’s at least a place to start. It’s subjective, it involves our wills and our agency, but it is not a secondary cause of our reconciliation.

    On this account, we are excluded from the ’cause’ of our reconciliation, but included (radically so) in its ‘effect’ — because, of course, it is for us. Christ’s humanity is ‘vicarious,’ etc. And the doctrine of sanctification has been relocated from (mostly) the subjective side to (entirely) the objective side of his work, so that we benefit from its occurrence but do not contribute to it.

    Cody: Yes, I’d say that the proper role of the human person is her subjective response to what has been done for her. Offhand, it seems that this should take two forms: 1) a response directed toward God, in gratitude; 2) a response directed toward other men and women, in proclamation. The Spirit enables both.

    Jon: You’re right to push this into dynamic terms of the ongoing work of Christ. I’m a neophyte when it comes to eschatology (and prefer to always remain so), but as much as the work of Christ is objectively ‘there and then’ it is also ‘here and now,’ viz. his Spirit poured out on the church. That may help to make it a tiny bit clearer that I’m not attempting to exclude human participation in the regenerated Christian life, but in the accomplishment of reconciliation.

  34. Cody Lee permalink
    September 20, 2011 2:15 pm

    Good stuff Darren!

  35. September 20, 2011 3:51 pm

    Darren, methinks that you are right, but that the accomplishment and the actualization or revelation of reconciliation are overly polarized (and not inclusive enough of the third term Barth thinks essential: vocation). but I think I’ve covered that in my comments already so I digress.

  36. Cody Lee permalink
    September 20, 2011 6:47 pm

    Watch this, I think Gary Deddo has some great words that are relevant to this topic.

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