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Windows Media Player and Windows Explorer won't read some ID3v2.3
I had posted this on another forum, but they couldn't help me there no matter how much they tried (this problem is kind of weird), so they told me to ask for help here. I'll try to describe my problem in detail here, as well as talk about what was already suggested to me and didn't work.

I had hundreds of tagged MP3 files on my old notebook (which broke a few days ago), whose tags showed correctly both on iTunes and on Windows Media Player. I bought a new computer recently and, when I transferred the files from the old to the new one, most of the tags were gone. Well, they're still being shown on iTunes, which means my ID3v2.4 tags are safe, and if I open them on Mp3tag it'll show all the correct tags, and it'll say they're ID3v2.3, which means that, in thesis, Windows Media Player and Windows Explorer should have no trouble reading them, but most songs have absolutely no info on both. There doesn't seem to be a pattern as to which files' tags can and can't be read; some are fine and some gone, for no apparent reason. If I try to add tags using Windows Media Player, they're correct for a few seconds, but then they're back to being blank. I can't edit tags using the Details tab on the Properties menu of the files; when I click on the tag I want to edit, instead of a text box appearing, nothing happens; I just can't type. This happens on both the tagless files and the OK ones. It's as if the files were read only, but they're not. I'm not getting error messages nor anything like that; I just can't change tags. I've also tried saving the tags on Mp3tag, but nothing happens. I mean, if I make any changes, they do show on Mp3tag itself, but the tags are still wrong (or nowhere to be seen) on Windows Explorer and Windows Media Player.

Also, there's an odd detail: when I opened the contents of the external HD my old computers' songs are in using Windows Explorer on that old computer itself, the files would all be OK; if I open them on the new one, they'd be wrong.

I think I know how this mess started: a few weeks ago, I was trying to find a way of making Devnagri (a non-Unicode script) song and album titles and artist names show correctly on iTunes. I Google it, and got to a website that had rather confuse instructions. It looked like the site was telling me to change the ID3 version of the files. As I had no idea what that was by then (see? There's always a bright side: all this crap has at least taught me something about MP3 file tagging! Yeah, thank you, Lord, though I still think you could've found a better way to teach me about that), I thought it could do no harm, and selected all files (why, oh, why all? Couldn't I have tested it with only ONE?), right-clicked, selected "Convert ID3 Tags..." and changed the ID3 version lots of times. I think I tried all available versions, and none did what I wanted it to (i.e., make Devnagri text not show as little squares). The problem started when I converted the tags to ID3v1.0; since it has a character limit, all tags that were longer than X characters were partially lost and I spent a few hours retying everything (do I even need to comment on how pissed off I was? This should teach me to test first, THEN risk my whole music folder). So, perhaps that caused this issue; I mean, before that happened, I had successfully transferred MP3 files from my old computer to other ones (including this very same one) with no tag problem, and also, the MP3 files I downloaded AFTER all that happened have all their info correct, and their tags CAN be edited using the Properties thing on Windows Explorer. However, why only some files of the files that had they tags messed up that day, and not all of them, lost their tags, is beyond my knowledge. And since I can't use that old laptop any more, I can't restore that computer to an earlier date and try to get the "unmessed up" versions of the files, so I MUST find a way to fix the files I currently have, unless I have to redownload everything - which would be nearly impossible, as I have 300+ broken MP3s.

Could anyone please, please, please help me?

ETA: If this helps, here are the files on Mp3tag; here you can see the very same files on Windows Explorer, and here, on iTunes.
  • Last Edit: 07 May, 2011, 04:34:00 PM by rajkumari

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Hrmm. It is possible that the files ended up with chained ID3 tags? In other words, an ID3v2.3 tag followed by an ID3v2.4 tag? This could explain some of the behaviour you're seeing. You can check for this by opening the file in a hex editor and looking for the sequence 0x49 0x44 0x33. This will be followed by the version bytes, 0x03 0x00 for 2.3, 0x04 0x00 for 2.4 respectively. Generally these will appear before the first MPEG frame. If you find more than one of these, you ended up with chained tags.

Since you already have MP3Tag installed, you can also test for this by going into the options and telling MP3Tag to remove ID3v2 tags (tools -> options -> tags, check "remove ID3v2").  If you then right-click on one of your files and select "remove tag", you should see the ID3v2.3 tag disappear and the 2.4 return. If that's not the case, something else is going on. This works because MP3Tag only "sees" the first ID3v2 tag and ignores anything after. So if you remove it, MP3Tag will then "see" the 2.4 tag. Obviously any kind of potentially destructive editing should be done on copies or test files.

If you've added your music to the "Music" folder in Windows, it's possible that WMP will scan these files for artist info and album art. In this case it will continue to modify files only tagged using ID3v2.4.
  • Last Edit: 07 May, 2011, 08:01:31 PM by 2thumbs

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OMG, thank you, thank you, thank you!  Now I can add info manually!  I couldn't get the right info back, but I had already lost my hopes of ever seeing those tags again; at least I can re-add everything now. I'm so happy! Seriously, you don't know how much you've helped me! I have OCD, and not having tags was driving me completely crazy. I never thought I'd ever say this, but I can't wait for tomorrow afternoon, when I'll retype everything.  Thanks a lot, one more time!

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Wouldn't Foobar2000 do this a bit easier? By right-clicking and selecting:
'Tagging'->'MP3 tag types'->and then make a proper selection of the preferred tags by using 'Override ID3v2 revision'.

I don't know off hand if it would work or not since I don't have the issue the original poster is having. In any event please do what's already suggested by working on copies first.

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If only I had seen this a few hours ago! Now I've already retyped everything.  Well, what matters is: I've finally solved my problem

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I am so happy that I found this thread.  This is one of the great perks of forums.  I have been experiencing the same problems with my mp3 files when I transferred all of my files from my computer to a cloud hosting service. I thought it would make things easier to plug in my ipod to other people's home theater systems when visiting their homes.  That way I could upload my files from anyone's computer.  I soon realized that I had made a huge mistake.  I had thought I had lost those files for ever.  Thank you rajkumari for asking this question.  I can't wait to see if the same solution will fix my mp3 files.  I'm so thrilled that I found this! Yay!
  • Last Edit: 27 June, 2011, 01:32:11 PM by whitejason

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Is this happening because extra tags are getting into the file and the tag software (or player) isn't reading them or merging the data from them together correctly?

Are there really that many applications that aren't smart enough to scan the entire MP3 for tags and just look for a V1 at the end and V2 at the beginning?  I suppose that's the norm, but with sync-safe IDv2 tags, an IDv2 tag can be anywhere in an MP3 file and not hurt its playback.  Then again, I've never seen a software write a sync-safe maybe the software doesn't support it.

A non-sync-safe tag in the middle of the file would/could certainly hose a player that's not knowledgeable about ID3 tags...wonder how many decoders/players could handle that?
  • Last Edit: 27 June, 2011, 03:37:25 PM by DreamWarrior

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I was able to tweak it to get it to work.  I think it had to be because there were extra tags getting into the file. Thanks to the advice earlier on this thread and yours, I know have it working again.
  • Last Edit: 28 June, 2011, 04:30:22 PM by greynol

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i found another solution to the problem, open foobar2000, add the folder with your songs, then select them all, right click, select utilities and then Rebuild MP3 Stream and later Fix VBR MP3 Header, it solved the problem and windows now sees the tags!!!


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  6. Ron Boschma & Asier Minondo & Mikel Navarro, 2013. "The Emergence of New Industries at the Regional Level in S pain: A Proximity Approach Based on Product Relatedness," Economic Geography, Clark University, vol. 89(1), pages 29-51, 01.
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  8. Michaela Trippl, 2009. "Islands of Innovation and Internationally Networked Labor Markets: Magnetic Centers for Star Scientists?," SRE-Disc sre-disc-2009_06, Institute for Multilevel Governance and Development, Department of Socioeconomics, Vienna University of Economics and Business.
  9. Lambiotte, R. & Panzarasa, P., 2009. "Communities, knowledge creation, and information diffusion," Journal of Informetrics, Elsevier, vol. 3(3), pages 180-190.
  10. Philip McCann, 2007. "Globalization and economic geography: the world is curved, not flat," Cambridge Journal of Regions, Economy and Society, Cambridge Political Economy Society, vol. 1(3), pages 351-370.
  11. C. A. Hidalgo & B. Klinger & A. -L. Barabasi & R. Hausmann, 2007. "The Product Space Conditions the Development of Nations," Papers 0708.2090,
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  13. Breschi, Stefano & Lissoni, Francesco & Malerba, Franco, 2003. "Knowledge-relatedness in firm technological diversification," Research Policy, Elsevier, vol. 32(1), pages 69-87, January.
  14. Ron Boschma & Simona Iammarino, 2009. "Related Variety, Trade Linkages, and Regional Growth in Italy," Economic Geography, Clark University, vol. 85(3), pages 289-311, 07.
  15. Lucio-Arias, Diana & Leydesdorff, Loet, 2009. "The dynamics of exchanges and references among scientific texts, and the autopoiesis of discursive knowledge," Journal of Informetrics, Elsevier, vol. 3(3), pages 261-271.
  16. Frank Neffke & Martin Henning & Ron Boschma, 2011. "How Do Regions Diversify over Time? Industry Relatedness and the Development of New Growth Paths in Regions," Economic Geography, Clark University, vol. 87(3), pages 237-265, 07.
  17. Trippl, Michaela, 2009. ": Islands of Innovation and Internationally Networked Labor Markets. Magnetic Centers for Star Scientists?," WU Library - ePub - Series 009 138, WU Library - ePub.
  18. Phil Cooke, 2006. "Global Bioregions: Knowledge Domains, Capabilities and Innovation System Networks," Industry and Innovation, Taylor & Francis Journals, vol. 13(4), pages 437-458.
  19. Ron Boschma & Ron Martin (ed.), 2010. "The Handbook of Evolutionary Economic Geography," Books, Edward Elgar Publishing, number 12864.
  20. Philip Cooke, 2006. "Global Bioregional Networks: A New Economic Geography of Bioscientific Knowledge," European Planning Studies, Taylor & Francis Journals, vol. 14(9), pages 1265-1285, April.
  21. M. S. Gertler & Y. M. Levitte, 2005. "Local Nodes in Global Networks: The Geography of Knowledge Flows in Biotechnology Innovation," Industry and Innovation, Taylor & Francis Journals, vol. 12(4), pages 487-507.
  22. Munawar Iqbal & David T. Llewellyn, 2002. "Introduction," Chapters, in: Islamic Banking and Finance, chapter 1 Edward Elgar Publishing.
  23. Frenken, Koen & Hardeman, Sjoerd & Hoekman, Jarno, 2009. "Spatial scientometrics: Towards a cumulative research program," Journal of Informetrics, Elsevier, vol. 3(3), pages 222-232.
  24. Bjørn Asheim, "undated". "Industrial Districts as 'learning regions'. A condition for prosperity," STEP Report series 199503, The STEP Group, Studies in technology, innovation and economic policy.
  25. Stefano Breschi & Francesco Lissoni, 2009. "Mobility of skilled workers and co-invention networks: an anatomy of localized knowledge flows," Journal of Economic Geography, Oxford University Press, vol. 9(4), pages 439-468, July.
  26. Cooke, Philip, 2001. "Regional Innovation Systems, Clusters, and the Knowledge Economy," Industrial and Corporate Change, Oxford University Press, vol. 10(4), pages 945-974, December.
  27. Meric S. Gertler, 2003. "Tacit knowledge and the economic geography of context, or The undefinable tacitness of being (there)," Journal of Economic Geography, Oxford University Press, vol. 3(1), pages 75-99, January.
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Instinctive Response in the Ultimatum Game

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  • Pablo Brañas-Garza

    (Department of Economic Theory and Economic History, University of Granada.)

  • Debrah Meloso

    (Dpt. of Decision Sciences and Dondena Center, Bocconi University)

  • Luis M. Miller

    (Departamento de Fundamentos del Análisis Económico II,Facultad de Ciencias Económicas y Empresariales, Universidad del País Vasco)

In a series of recent papers, Ariel Rubinstein claims that the study of response time sheds light on the process of reasoning involved in classical economic decision problems. In particular, he considers that a distinction can be drawn between instinc- tive and cognitive reasoning. This paper complements and expands upon Rubinstein's study on time responses. We show that strategic risk is the key element in explaining differences in median response time in ultimatum behavior.

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  1. Geanakoplos, John & Pearce, David & Stacchetti, Ennio, 1989. "Psychological games and sequential rationality," Games and Economic Behavior, Elsevier, vol. 1(1), pages 60-79, March.
  2. Isabelle Brocas & Juan D. Carillo, 2006. "The Brain as a Hierarchical Organization," IEPR Working Papers 06.48, Institute of Economic Policy Research (IEPR).
  3. Guth, Werner & Schmittberger, Rolf & Schwarze, Bernd, 1982. "An experimental analysis of ultimatum bargaining," Journal of Economic Behavior & Organization, Elsevier, vol. 3(4), pages 367-388, December.
  4. Urs Fischbacher, 2007. "z-Tree: Zurich toolbox for ready-made economic experiments," Experimental Economics, Springer;Economic Science Association, vol. 10(2), pages 171-178, June.
  5. Ariel Rubinstein, 2006. "Instinctive and Cognitive Reasoning: A Study of Response Times," Working Papers 2006.36, Fondazione Eni Enrico Mattei.
  6. Gary Bolton, 1998. "Bargaining and Dilemma Games: From Laboratory Data Towards Theoretical Synthesis," Experimental Economics, Springer;Economic Science Association, vol. 1(3), pages 257-281, December.
  7. Piovesan, Marco & Wengström, Erik, 2009. "Fast or fair? A study of response times," Economics Letters, Elsevier, vol. 105(2), pages 193-196, November.
  8. Pierpaolo Battigalli & Martin Dufwenberg, 2005. "Dynamic Psychological Games," Levine's Bibliography 784828000000000046, UCLA Department of Economics.
  9. Guth, Werner, 1995. "On ultimatum bargaining experiments -- A personal review," Journal of Economic Behavior & Organization, Elsevier, vol. 27(3), pages 329-344, August.
  10. Nagel, Rosemarie, 1995. "Unraveling in Guessing Games: An Experimental Study," American Economic Review, American Economic Association, vol. 85(5), pages 1313-1326, December.
  11. M. Rabin, 2001. "Incorporating Fairness into Game Theory and Economics," Levine's Working Paper Archive 511, David K. Levine.
  12. ATTANASI Giuseppe & NAGEL Rosemarie, 2008. "A Survey of Psychological Games: Theoretical Findings and Experimental Evidence," LERNA Working Papers 08.07.251, LERNA, University of Toulouse.
  13. Greiner, Ben, 2004. "An Online Recruitment System for Economic Experiments," MPRA Paper 13513, University Library of Munich, Germany.
  14. Ken Binmore, 2007. "Does Game Theory Work? The Bargaining Challenge," MIT Press Books, The MIT Press, edition 1, volume 1, number 0262026074.
  15. Kahneman, Daniel & Knetsch, Jack L & Thaler, Richard H, 1986. "Fairness and the Assumptions of Economics," The Journal of Business, University of Chicago Press, vol. 59(4), pages 285-300, October.
  16. Ariel Rubinstein, 2008. "Comments on Neuroeconomics," Levine's Working Paper Archive 122247000000001984, David K. Levine.
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Why Do Leaders Matter? The Role of Expert Knowledge

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  • Goodall, Amanda H.

    (Cass Business School)

  • Kahn, Lawrence M.

    (Cornell University)

  • Oswald, Andrew J.

    (University of Warwick)

Why do some leaders succeed while others fail? This question is important, but its complexity makes it hard to study systematically. We examine an industry in which there are well-defined objectives, small teams, and exact measures of leaders’ characteristics. We show that a strong predictor of a leader’s success in year T is that person’s own level of attainment, in the underlying activity, in approximately year T-20. Our data come from 15,000 professional basketball games. The effect on team performance of the coach’s ‘expert knowledge’ is large and is discernible in the data within 12 months of his being hired.

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  1. Sumon Majumdar & Sharun Mukand, 2008. "The Leader as Catalyst – on Leadership and the Mechanics of Institutional Change," CESifo Working Paper Series 2337, CESifo Group Munich.
  2. Lawrence M. Kahn, 1993. "Managerial Quality, Team Success, and Individual Player Performance in Major League Baseball," ILR Review, Cornell University, ILR School, vol. 46(3), pages 531-547, April.
  3. Simon Rottenberg, 1956. "The Baseball Players' Labor Market," Journal of Political Economy, University of Chicago Press, vol. 64, pages 242-242.
  4. Goodall, Amanda H., 2009. "Highly cited leaders and the performance of research universities," Research Policy, Elsevier, vol. 38(7), pages 1079-1092, September.
  5. David G. Blanchflower & Andrew J. Oswald & Peter Sanfey, 1992. "Wages, Profits and Rent-Sharing," NBER Working Papers 4222, National Bureau of Economic Research, Inc.
  6. Hilderth, A.K. & Oswald, A.J., 1993. "Rent-Sharing and Wages: Evidence form Company and Establishment Panels," Economics Series Working Papers 99154, University of Oxford, Department of Economics.
  7. David P. Myatt & Torun Dewan, 2007. "The Qualities of Leadership: Direction, Communication, and Obfuscation," Economics Series Working Papers 311, University of Oxford, Department of Economics.
  8. Kahn, Lawrence M & Sherer, Peter D, 1988. "Racial Differences in Professional Basketball Players' Compensation," Journal of Labor Economics, University of Chicago Press, vol. 6(1), pages 40-61, January.
  9. Hermalin, Benjamin E, 1998. "Toward an Economic Theory of Leadership: Leading by Example," American Economic Review, American Economic Association, vol. 88(5), pages 1188-1206, December.
  10. Benjamin F. Jones & Benjamin A. Olken, 2005. "Do Leaders Matter? National Leadership and Growth Since World War II," The Quarterly Journal of Economics, Oxford University Press, vol. 120(3), pages 835-864.
  11. Hermalin, Benjamin E., 2007. "Leading for the long term," Journal of Economic Behavior & Organization, Elsevier, vol. 62(1), pages 1-19, January.
  12. Chifeng Dai & Tracy R. Lewis & Giuseppe Lopomo, 2006. "Delegating management to experts," RAND Journal of Economics, RAND Corporation, vol. 37(3), pages 503-520, 09.
  13. Stefan Szymanski, 2000. "A Market Test for Discrimination in the English Professional Soccer Leagues," Journal of Political Economy, University of Chicago Press, vol. 108(3), pages 590-603, June.
  14. Amanda H Goodall, 2005. "Should Research Universities be Led by Top Researchers? Part 1: Are they?," HEW 0506003, EconWPA.
  15. Morten Bennedsen & Kasper Meisner Nielsen & Francisco Perez-Gonzalez & Daniel Wolfenzon, 2007. "Inside the Family Firm: The Role of Families in Succession Decisions and Performance," The Quarterly Journal of Economics, Oxford University Press, vol. 122(2), pages 647-691.
  16. Francisco Pérez-González, 2006. "Inherited Control and Firm Performance," American Economic Review, American Economic Association, vol. 96(5), pages 1559-1588, December.
  17. Aidt, Toke S. & Leong, Bernard & Saslaw, William C. & Sgroi, Daniel, 2006. "A power-law distribution for tenure lengths of sports managers," Physica A: Statistical Mechanics and its Applications, Elsevier, vol. 370(2), pages 697-703.
  18. Julio Rotemberg & Garth Saloner, 2000. "Visionaries, Managers, and Strategic Direction," RAND Journal of Economics, The RAND Corporation, vol. 31(4), pages 693-716, Winter.
  19. Lawrence M. Kahn, 2000. "The Sports Business as a Labor Market Laboratory," Journal of Economic Perspectives, American Economic Association, vol. 14(3), pages 75-94, Summer.
  20. Bertrand, Marianne & Schoar, Antoinette, 2003. "Managing With Style: The Effect of Managers on Firm Policies," Working papers 4280-02, Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), Sloan School of Management.
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100 Ideas on 100 Thoughts: an open research project

Documenta 13 notebooks

Documenta 13 notebooks

Last week i posted about the talk between Luca Massimo Barbero and Carolyn Christov-Bakargiev. Today i’m writing you a follow up because a very interesting thing happened.

Thanks to this post i was invited to take part of the project 100 Ideas on 100 Thoughts ideated by ” a.r.t.e.s. Research School”, the Interdisciplinary Graduate School of the Arts and Humanities Faculty of the University of Cologne.

The project consist in inviting  students and young scholars from different fields of study to analyse,discuss, and question the thoughts proposed in the notebooks 100 Notes – 100 Thoughts /100 Notizen – 100 Gedanke. Indeed, as prelude to dOCUMENTA (13) (Kassel, 9th June – 16th September 2012), the artistic direction, in collaboration with Hatje Cantz is publishing a series of notebooks commissioning essays, collaborations and conversations to professionals from different disciplines (art, science, anthropology, philosophy, psychology, economic, political theory, language, literature studies and poetry).
 Due to the strong participatory and international spirit of the project, brainstorming, dialogue and debate will be realised primarily through a blog.
People are invited to Read and critically approach one notebook, briefly presenting on the blog its content as well as the thoughts, reflections, and ideas which arise while reading, Interact with other participants, discussing and  debating, and meet during two appointments in Cologne and Kassel.
I personally think that this is really an interesting project that prove how new tools like blogs can be used by artistic institution to avoid and expand the limit of the distance, to actively involve people of different countries, to create a broad discussion and communication about the event.
I will partecipate, and you?

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Fire Phone reduced in price…by 99.5%

Fire Phone reduced in price…by 99.5%

I bought my

Amazon Fire Phone (at AmazonSmile: benefit a non-profit of your choice by shopping*)

when it was recently released for about $200.

In this

press release

Amazon announced the new price…of ninety-nine cents (with a two-year contract…same requirement I had)!

Wow, a drop of that much in about a month and a half! That makes me want to…smile. 😉

Yup, I’m happy that other people will be able to get such a great deal.

As I’ve written in previous Fire Phone posts, it took me a while to warm up to it…but I like it now.

The biggest plus for me is the easy access to things you’ve done before. I go a lot of different places, and I really like having access to previous navigations right from the Carousel.

Of course, I couldn’t get a feel for that until I’d been there, done that a few times.

Certainly, I’m looking forward to a software update to the voice assistant. It’s still pretty limited, although it understands what I say well.

Generally, I think one thing that makes it a good phone for many people is Mayday, the live, onscreen technical help. This is the first phone you can give to someone who is not at all tech savvy, and they’ll be able to really use it to send texts and e-mails.

I think we’ll see tremendous improvements to the phone over the next year, in the way of software updates.

So, why the big drop?

Rumors suggest it wasn’t selling well. One speculation I saw mentioned a figure of 15,000 phones…which would make me one in about 200.

They need to get them into people’s hands…they can’t have this be seen as a failure. Well, they could…pretty much every company has had failures, but they don’t want Fire Phone to be to Amazon as the Newton is to Apple. 😉

I suspect adoption will be slow, but will get up there. The included year of Prime (even for current Prime members) will mean some folks will try it as another phone at the holidays. I suspect we may see this some kids’ first phones…and that’s part of why their advertising campaign with the two children makes sense.

The press release also says,

“In the U.S., Fire is available exclusively on AT&T – the nation’s most reliable 4G LTE network. Fire with 32GB is available for 99 cents with a two-year contract or $0 down and $18.75 per month (for 24 months) with AT&T NEXT 18.”

Readers Edward Boyhan and Tom Semple have also pointed out that you can now buy the Fire Phone without a service plan for $449.

We’ll know after the holidays how effective this was…even if Amazon doesn’t release figures, people can do some analysis and make some guesses.

Bonus story

I didn’t want to do a story just on the Fire Phone…I know a lot of you reading this blog may see it as somewhat outside “…the Kindle and the world of e-books”, as I say on the masthead for the blog. It is in some ways involved with e-books, and certainly affects Amazon (and that affects the Kindle’s fortunes), but I understand.

So, here’s a purely book story. 🙂

Annotated Classics series (at AmazonSmile*)

This is a series of low-priced (but not free) public domain classics.

The reviews are generally good, and they do seem to be pretty inclusive for the given author. They also have quite a bit of other material…not just pulling one essay off Wikipedia, as some books do.

For example, for the Shakespeare collection, they say:

“* NEW: Easily look up text that is linked to local Shakespeare glossary.
* Illustrated with the original images.
* Annotated with concise introduction, including analysis of William Shakespeare’s works as well as modern view on Shakespeare’s historical background.
* Original footnotes are hyperlinked for easy reference.
* The collection includes alphabetical and chronological indexes of Shakespeare’s works.
* Each book features its own active Table of Contents.
* Includes William Shakespeare’s Biography.
* Includes William Shakespeare’s most famous quotes.
* Includes famous quotes about William Shakespeare.
* Includes analysis of William Shakespeare’s literary style.
* Includes analysis of English Renaissance theatre.
* Includes analysis of characters of Shakespeare’s Plays.
* Includes glossary of Shakespeare’s words.
* All Annotated Classics books are beautifully designed for easy reading and navigation on e-Readers and mobile devices.”

In terms of completeness, here is the listing for the H.G. Wells set…nothing is standing out as missing to me:

Ann Veronica
The First Men in the Moon
The Food of the Gods and How It Came to Earth
The History of Mr Polly
In the Days of the Comet
The Invisible Man
The Island of Dr Moreau
Joan and Peter
Little Wars
Love and Mr Lewisham
Mr. Britling Sees It Through
The New Machiavelli
The Passionate Friends
The Research Magnificent
The Sea Lady Illustrated
The Secret Places of the Heart
The Sleeper Awakes
The Soul of a Bishop
The Time Machine
The War in the Air
The War of the Worlds
The Wheels of Chance
When the Sleeper Wakes
The Wife of Sir Isaac Harman
The Wonderful Visit
The World Set Free

The Stolen Bacillus and Other Incidents
Twelve Stories and a Dream

Aepyornis Island
The Apple
The Argonauts of the Air
The Beautiful Suit
A Catastrophe
The Chronic Argonauts
The Cone
The Country of the Blind
The Crystal Egg
A Deal in Ostriches
The Diamond Maker
The Door in the Wall
A Dream of Armageddon
The Empire of the Ants
A Family Elopement
The Flowering of the Strange Orchid
The Flying Man
The Grisly Folk
The Hammerpond Park Burglary
How Gabriel Became Thompson
In the Abyss
In the Avu Observatory
In the Modern Vein: An Unsympathetic Love Story
The Jilting of Jane
Jimmy Goggles the God
The Land Ironclads
Le Mari Terrible
Little Mother Up the Morderberg
The Lord of the Dynamos
The Lost Inheritance
The Man Who Could Work Miracles
The Man With a Nose
The Magic Shop
Miss Winchelsea’s Heart
A Misunderstood Artist
The Moth
A Moonlight Fable
Mr. Brisher’s Treasure
Mr. Ledbetter’s Vacation
Mr. Marshall’s Doppelgänger
Mr. Skelmersdale in Fairyland
My First Aeroplane
The New Accelerator
The Obliterated Man
A Perfect Gentleman
The Plattner Story
Pollock and the Porroh Man
The Purple Pileus
The Rajah’s Treasure
The Reconciliation
The Red Room
The Remarkable Case of Davidson’s Eyes
The Sad Story of a Dramatic Critic
The Sea Raiders
A Slip under the Microscope
The Star
The Stolen Body
The Stolen Bacillus
A Story of the Days To Come
The Story of the Inexperienced Ghost
The Story of the Last Trump
The Story of the Late Mr. Elvesham
A Story of the Stone Age
The Temptation of Harringay
The Treasure in the Forest
The Triumphs of a Taxidermist
Through a Window
The Truth About Pyecraft
Under the Knife
A Vision of Judgment
The Valley of Spiders
The Wild Asses of the Devil

Certain Personal Matters
An Englishman Looks at the World
First and Last Things
Floor Games
God the Invisible King
In the Fourth Year
Mankind in the Making
A Modern Utopia
New Worlds for Old
Russia in the Shadows
The Salvaging of Civilization
A Short History of the World Illustrated
War and the Future
What is Coming?

Works’ Analysis
History of science fiction

I checked a sample, and it does look good. With the H.G. Wells, sample, I got more than one full book, by the way…and one of them was The First Men in the Moon.

These might be good gifts, or could be a good way for you to be an e-completist. 😉

This post was updated and improved with comments from readers…and I also caught one of my own mistakes. 😉

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  1. Tom Semple Says:

    I think that in answer to your question ‘Don’t want that two year contract?’ surely you meant to quote the off-contract, unlocked price, which is also $200 less at $449/$549. This should allow you to go to a BYOP wireless provider (e.g. Cricket, owned by AT&T) for some more savings on calling plans. Personally, I would prefer not to be locked into a contract even if that meant more money up front. It’s not ’99 cents’ after all: you are making payments on the phone until you actually can say you own it.

    The price drop had to happen today because of Apple’s event tomorrow, where they are expected to announce availability of the new iPhone 6 models (and whatever ‘new thing’ they are rumored to be announcing). Amazon is hoping that anyone that was holding off on buying a Fire Phone until seeing what the new iPhones will now have some reason to hesitate. But I don’t think it is going to spike Fire Phone sales very much. In retrospect, I think Amazon would have done better to have these prices at launch.

    • Bufo Calvin Says:

      Thanks for writing, Tom!

      I clarified the article…you were right, that wasn’t clear.

      I’m not convinced that the Apple announcement drove the price drop, although it may have (as you suggest) affected the timing. In terms of PR (Public Relations), though, what it did was ensure that the price drop info got buried, or only got covered as a sign that Amazon was running scared…neither of those are great for sales.

  2. Harold Delk Says:

    I would not buy a Fire phone until AT&T is out of the picture. When it becomes available the a Telco I have some trust in then I will consider it. I cannot conceive of a company with such poor customer service being linked to one with excellent customer service. Amazon needs to choose its partners with more care.

    • Bufo Calvin Says:

      Thanks for writing, Harold!

      I would expect it to be open to other carriers after the first year…just guessing, though. As to it being a poor choice of partner, I think it depends on how much subsidy Amazon got. If AT&T offered (effectively) complete launch insurance, it would be worth the risk, I think.

  3. Stephen Says:

    I don’t suppose they dropped the price because of Apples announcement?

    • Bufo Calvin Says:

      Thanks for writing, Stephen!

      I actually think that didn’t have much of an impact, since it would have been wholly anticipated even at the launch of the Fire Phone. I wrote a post where I addressed that more, thanks in part to you raising the question.

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Tuesday, June 19, 2012

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A few minutes ago, the weekly email from San Francisco Symphony landed in my mailbox. Besides urging us to buy tickets to Bluebeard's Castle, there's the news that Compose Your Own subscriptions are available as of today.

You know what's coming, right? Yes, another complaint about the deficiencies of the SFS ticketing system. Because it seems to be set up pretty much the way it was set up last year, which is to say, the only way to buy a Compose Your Own right now is to pick the number of tickets, the concerts, and the sections you want.

I will have to wait until later in the year, I guess, to do what I want, unless I can bring myself to go to the ticketing window at Davies some Saturday. I'd really rather not. It's a big chunk of time out of my day; I'd rather do it on line; I'm not the most patient person in the world, and why should a perfectly nice person at SFS suffer because of me? Better I should get annoyed at the software.

The thing you need to know is that Tessitura, SFS's ticketing system, can be programmed to do whatever they damn well please. It just takes some cash. If the ticketing system doesn't do this, it's because a decision someone made, whether because they think what they have is good enough or because they're not willing to write the check.

Also, this is a big, big mistake:

See the button that says GET STARTED and the button that says CONTINUE?

They do the same thing. Way to confuse your customers!

A bit further down the page is a flip book, which is a slow and clumsy way to let people flip through a booklike representation of a brochure or book. I can't tell you how much I hate them, not to mention, they're Flash-drive and completely inaccessible to people who use screen readers.

I haven't gotten far enough into the ticket purchase flow to see whether there are any further UX errors like this, but I bet there are.

Last but not least, this is the 2,000th posting published to Iron Tongue of Midnight. If you're reading this, whether you've read 3, 10, 300, or every last one, you have my deepest thanks and gratitude for your time, thought, and comments.

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Congratulations on 2k posts.

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Congratulations --or condolences?-- on 2000 posts. I'm in awe of bloggers like you, La Cieca and some of the gay (Joe. My. God.) and politics (Atrios at Eschaton) blogs I go to for their longevity. I've tried blogging twice and gave up both times the second it felt like an obligation.

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Parser not seeing alternative, how to resolve

Nov 13, 2012 at 5:45 PM
Edited Nov 13, 2012 at 5:46 PM

Hi,  I'm not sure if this is the place to ask grammar questions but here goes.  I have a grammar that is not recognizing a valid path when a certain alternative is present.

Background definitions (partial):

valueTerm = bracketedProp | optBracketedProp | expr;

optBracketedProp.Rule = bracketedProp + "?";

expr.Rule = valueExpr | parExpr;

parExpr.Rule = "(" + expr + ")";

valueExpr.Rule = strOrNum | binValueExpr | valueUnExpr;

binValueExpr.Rule = valueTerm + binOpValue + valueTerm;

binOpValue.Rule = ToTerm("+") | "-" | "*" | "/" | "%";

optNot.Rule = Empty | not;

The breaking case is when valueTerm is an optBracketedProp and the optNot is present then the following path is recognized only when the "existsExpr" definition is absent.  When the "existsExpr" is included then I get a syntax error "expecting 'exists'" error during parsing.

inExpr.Rule = valueTerm + optNot + in_ + funcOrParStrOrNumOrNullList;

existsExpr.Rule = optBracketedProp + optNot + "exists";

Breaking Example:

[1234]? not in (1,2,3)

These always work even when both definitions are present

[1234]? in (1,2,3)

[1234] not in (1,2,3)

[1234] in (1,2,3)

Thanks in advance for any pointers.

Nov 13, 2012 at 7:23 PM

too many things are missing from your rules extract, hard to see what's going on

Main question - when you load the grammar into Grammar Explorer, are there any Grammar Errors (conflicts)?

Nov 13, 2012 at 7:53 PM

Unfortunately, there aren't any conflicts.  I was hoping that the required definitions were included.

In the state diagram I do see a few Inadequate's at the point of interest.  Here is an attempt to reduce to critical definitions:

X.Rule = val + not + in + list;

Y.Rule = prop + not + exists

val.Rule = prop | expr

expr.Rule = val + op + val

op.Rule = "+" | "-"

And the parser always follows rule "Y" expecting "exists" after "not" (never "in") unless the Y.Rule is deleted or modified (e.g. add keyword before "not").

Nov 13, 2012 at 7:55 PM

missing prop.Rule; also, what is the 'root', top-level expression?

Nov 13, 2012 at 8:31 PM

I'm not saying this simplified example will exhibit the problem (it may be close though).  I'm just trying to get across the relationships and if you can guess at the problem maybe I can resolve or refactor the original.

Root = statement;

statement.Rule = X | Y;

For prop:  Easy version:

prop.Rule = NumberLiteral("propIntegerId", NumberOptions.IntOnly);

For prop:  Closer to reality:

prop.Rule = bracketedProp | optBracketedProp

optBracketedProp.Rule = bracketedProp + "?"

bracketedProp.Rule = "[" + propId + "]"

propId = NumberLiteral("propIntegerId", NumberOptions.IntOnly);

Nov 13, 2012 at 9:02 PM

for this simplified version, looks like there must be a conflict, shift/reduce conflict on 'not' lookahead.

When parser has in stack the 'prop' node containing

and lookahead (next input) is 'not', it might be beginning of rule X - in this case parser should REDUCE 'val <-- prop', or it might be rule Y - in this case parser should SHIFT the 'not' token.

Does not look like this simplified versions help, you'd better paste the entire grammar if possible.

Nov 14, 2012 at 6:53 PM
Edited Nov 14, 2012 at 9:39 PM

I may be able to make a simplified test case from the grammar if I get some time later (doubtful though).

However the problem you found may help to understand...  Since both X and Y are valid and the correct choice can be made on encountering the token _after_ the 'not' ('in' vs 'exists'), could you explain how to adjust the simple grammar to support both X and Y?

Nov 18, 2012 at 11:45 PM

sorry, i'm lost a bit in fragments here and there. Can you please repost a full grammar constructor (simplified and without conflicts in grammar explorer), and with input samples that do not work correctly


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