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nick_in_ssp 03-07-2009 6:45 PM

DIY swim platform
Well my old teak platform is cracked and I got nothing to do so I started making a swim platform. 3/4" non treated ply wood and a couple 2x4's cut lengthwise and this is how far I have got. Today I put on the first layer of fiberglass resin. Another layer of that tomorrow then to finish it up I will put two layers of the Rhino liner on. I'll put up pics when I'm done.

treycleaton 03-07-2009 7:31 PM

Man, that's actually nice looking. Crafty....

wackbag 03-08-2009 5:22 PM

Nice Nick! I've been thinking about making a fiberglass platform, but not sure if I want to take that on. I cant wait to see how yours turns out.

wakesk8er2 03-08-2009 5:32 PM

Build in some white LED lights while you're at it

wakesk8er2 03-08-2009 5:32 PM

looks nice BTW

saceone 03-08-2009 5:54 PM

looking good!
how are you going to mount the brackets? before or after glass? how thick is the glass going to be? can't wait to see the final product!

nick_in_ssp 03-08-2009 6:33 PM

Today I finished brushing on the second layer of fiberglass resin. I just mixed the resin with the hardener and brushed it on with a thick coat. When it says "resin sets up in 15 minutes" they're not kidding. First time I mixed up 12 0nces or so and only got to use half of it because it started turning into jelly. It reminds me of those rustic coffee tables you see in log cabins or in ski condos. Tomorrow I am going to cover the whole thing in truck bed coating. I plan to mount the brackets after everything is done and put some silicon into the screw holes after predrilling them.

lovin_the_wake 03-09-2009 7:44 AM

Very Nice

rio_sanger 03-09-2009 9:27 AM

Nick, you mention "fiberglass resin" Did you use fiberglass mat, or just resin only? Hard to tell from your description.

 Resin without fiberglass lamination, resin is not very strong, and will likely crack with any flexing at all, allowing water to seep into the wood.

Are those stainless screws?

 Looks good though, keep posting pics of your progress!

(Message edited by rio_sanger on March 09, 2009)

sparks426 03-09-2009 10:45 AM

I did a platform for my V210 last year in a very similar fashion. Two layers of plywood sandwiched back to back, cut to shape and edges smoothed. I thought about doing like Nick did on the bottom to lighten it up, but in the end decided I wanted as few places as possible for water to get in. It's light enough I can put it on myself, but still solid.

I did three coats of west system epoxy as a barrier coat (no fabric, just rolled it on), sanded smooth, and then painted it with marine paint. I drilled for the mounts after the epoxy, and used marine silicone in the holes with stainless screws and a rubber gasket between the mounts and the platform to seal it up. No cracks yet.

nick_in_ssp 03-09-2009 10:51 AM

This thing is pretty solid and doesn't flex much. I thought about using a fiberglass mat but didn't think it was critical to do. They are not stainless screws but the ones that will hold the brackets on will be.
Andy, what did you use for the traction on top of the platform? I am going to do the bed liner stuff today and I think I will be set.

hunterw 03-09-2009 11:12 AM

Nick... I would go with either seadeck or aquaturf for the top deck. They both offer a nice range in colors and style. You can cut to fit any size or shape.

sparks426 03-09-2009 4:11 PM

I used gator grip, so far seems to be holding up well, and the edges aren't lifting. Not sure how well it would adhere to the bedliner, but if it was an issue maybe some spray adhesive would help.

salty87 03-10-2009 9:55 AM

unfortunately, chris is right. poly resin won't last long by itself without any glass. the resin is brittle by itself.

epoxy would work but it must be painted or uv protected.

seven20 03-11-2009 11:25 AM

completed pics?

silvermustang35 03-11-2009 11:49 AM

Nick,
if you are still looking for non slip matting, I wanted to suggest something that I used and for the cost its not too terrible
http://forums.wakeboarder.com/viewtopic.php?t=80767
Thats the DIY non slip matting I did.

nick_in_ssp 03-12-2009 1:41 PM

Well I just got finished with this thing today and installed the brackets back on. I think it should work, and I'm really happy with the truck bed coating from Dupli-Color. I will get to try it this weekend and see if things will work out. The finish on the Dupli-Color feels like a hard plastic when fully dry and I don't think it will have any problem scratching boards or body parts.

silvermustang35 03-12-2009 1:42 PM

wow, that looks pretty nice, good job!

nick_in_ssp 03-12-2009 1:44 PM

I havn't stood on it yet but when it dries I will try it out. Before I put the resin on I stood on it and it had a little flex but way less than the old teak one. I also used Marine grade sealant with the screws that hold the brackets on.

wackbag 03-12-2009 1:46 PM

I like it. A lot of the commercially done bed liners can make the finish as smooth or rough as you want. Is the Dupli-color that way? How much do you have into that project? Good job Nick.

nick_in_ssp 03-12-2009 2:11 PM

I figure about $120 at most. The Dupli-Color is like thick paint and it is sprayable so is has no texture. But when you roll it on with a paint roller it gives it a sort of small even bumpy feel. Not sure how it will feel when below the water line but hope it's not to slippy.

wakemikey 03-12-2009 2:26 PM

Put a sick pad on it!

saceone 03-12-2009 3:18 PM

i just hope you wont have any issues with paint sticking under your feet/getting inside the boat.

looks very nice in picture though!

lovin_the_wake 03-13-2009 8:52 AM

Looks great good work

I used roll on bed liner on mine as well and after a couple seasons of use it still looks the same as the day I did it I love that stuff. I made mine a little more rough though just to add a some more durability

bill_airjunky 03-13-2009 9:34 AM

Very nice on the finished swim platform, Nick. It's a perfect finish for a GatorGrip/Traxx-like pad on top.

I hope it proves to be durable for you. I asked a buddy of mine who presses boards at Hyperlite. He didn't think that resin alone would add any strength to it & suggested some matting be added. He said it might flake off in big sections at some point..... sort of like bondo on a car fender repair.

But if you've ever seen the Rhinolined pop can at the boat show, you KNOW that stuff is tough as nails.

nick_in_ssp 03-13-2009 10:53 AM

I never intended for the resin to make it stronger, I just used it to seal the wood from the water. I've put all my #220 pound ass on it and it flexes just a hair. Super strong and I think it will work out good. If it seems to slippy I will look into getting the Gator grip for it. I had it on my old boat and it was very nice.

wackbag 03-13-2009 2:20 PM

I would'nt think it would flex much looking at your supports underneath. The ripped 2x's are a great back bone.

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rrw71 02-28-2010 8:53 PM

What are your thoughts on the Supreme v226?
Considering this boat along with an Enzo 230, Tige 22ve, and maybe a used X-30. What are your thoughts? Family boat for 5, dog, plus friends. Wakesurfing, wakeboarding, tubing...

duffymahoney 02-28-2010 9:48 PM

The Enzo, Tige and Supreme will have great waves. The supreme v226 and the enzo-avalanche share a similar hull design. The same guy designed both. The supreme is just deeper(deepest in the industry) and has a larger top cap. This means bigger custom sacs and a nice big waves. Same basicallly goes for the enzo (which is an amazing surf boat). The mastercraft is an amazing wakeboard boat and an ok surf boat.

Which is the most important feature for you? If it's wakeboarding then go with the mastercraft. If it's surfing again the Enzo, Tige and supreme will be great.

rrw71 03-01-2010 9:14 AM

Thanks for the input. Surfing is probably #1, along with the kids learning to wakeboard, surf and tubing. I hope to get some demo rides in the next couple weeks if the weather cooperates.

westsidarider 03-01-2010 9:53 AM

I really dig the new V226. It has an incredible surf wake and the wakeboard wake is pretty good too. I would describe it as a steeper version of the xstar. Very meaty with a little bit of a lip to it. Very fun

duffymahoney 03-01-2010 10:24 AM

V226 could be the greatist wakesurf boat out. With custom enzo sacs and some time dialing in the wave. But to my knowledge no one has done this yet. The enzo and the Tige have been proven to have great waves. If you surf both sides I would go with the Tige or the V226. If you just surf the port or regular side I would go with the enzo. All these boats are amazing good luck!

westsidarider 03-01-2010 11:11 AM

We have had the surf wake more than dialed behind the 226 every time I have been out in it. I actually found it very easy to dial it in. The first time out a year ago we were surfing at 17 mph and way back on the wave.

duffymahoney 03-01-2010 2:18 PM

Post some v226 pictures. I would love to see more. Or even better would be some video. Please post what weight you are running etc.. Thanks

islander033 03-01-2010 4:46 PM

Originally Posted by duffymahoney (Post 1556670)
Post some v226 pictures. I would love to see more. Or even better would be some video. Please post what weight you are running etc.. Thanks

westsidarider 03-01-2010 4:55 PM

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Here are 2 pics of possible color options on the optional all in gel color that is offered. The other 2 pics the boat is loaded as follows: rear stock ballast full, additional 350 v-drive sac in the locker, one 350 v-drive sac under the passenger side seats as full as possible, another 350 v-drive sac in the passenger compartment, and another 350 v-drive sac in the bow. Only 3 people in the boat

duffymahoney 03-01-2010 5:06 PM

Last picture looks like a turn? Any more pictures? I got supreme to measure for a custom enzo type sacs and it was going to be huge! I think like 1800 or so pounds. If and when it's time for a new boat I am going to look at the v226. Where is the cooler? I know that sounds dumb but it's very important to me:)

westsidarider 03-01-2010 5:15 PM

Cant find anymore pics right now but I know there are some more floating around that I should be able to get my hands on.

That last pic looks like it was on a slight turn based on the prop wash but it was pretty slow anyways so its not really a good representation. it was all I had so I posted it.

There are 2 coolers in the bow, one on each side under the seats. And no, it doesn't sounds dumb, at least not to me. Hahaha

westsidarider 03-01-2010 5:45 PM

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This was 2 weeks ago at lake yosemeti I believe

duffymahoney 03-01-2010 5:54 PM

Sick! What speed is that?

westsidarider 03-01-2010 6:05 PM

Couldnt tell ya. I wasnt there. My buddy just sent me that picture.

duffymahoney 03-01-2010 6:11 PM

Keep the pictures coming!

ralph 03-01-2010 7:34 PM

Wow! Impressive

duffymahoney 03-01-2010 8:30 PM

This boat has the potential to be the best surf boat out. Love the pictures, thanks!

westsidarider 03-01-2010 10:33 PM

Yea unfortunately I was not there the day they took that last pic I posted but from the looks of it they could have loaded the front down more and made that huge wave twice as long

taft 03-01-2010 11:54 PM

I was gonna say the wave looks pretty stubby, but ya maybe weight up front would help out quite a bit.

rrw71 03-02-2010 9:17 AM

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What do you think? I hope the price is right...

Picture courtesy of Lynnwood Motoplex (WA)

westsidarider 03-02-2010 12:40 PM

WOW! I havent seen that color combo. Looks super sick. I think that just sold me on the in gel paint. Super clean.

lakesurfer 03-02-2010 1:57 PM

The biggest problems with that boat is the dash. I dont think they could make it uglier if they tried. Surf wake looks like it has a lot of potential!

westsidarider 03-02-2010 5:29 PM

The current dash is being completely re-designed so dont get too hung up on how horrible the dash is right now. I saw the digital rendition of the new dash and its pretty sick. Very modern, clean and functional

bac 03-02-2010 6:07 PM

After seeing that last pic, I'd be interested to see what that wake would like with some more bow weight. Looks crazy steep, but it looks very promising. These are the first pics I've ever even seen of anyone surfing a supreme

rrw71 03-02-2010 6:59 PM

Anyone have a pic of the new dash? I'm sure it's different than the 11/08 post...

westsidarider 03-02-2010 7:16 PM

As of right now there is only a digital rendition of the new dash. From what I understand the mold for it is being made right now.

wakebrdjay 03-02-2010 10:28 PM

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My V 212 wake.

rrw71 03-03-2010 5:52 AM

Nice. How is it loaded?

BTW - I got to do a demo ride on a 2010 Enzo 230 with tab. Nice boat, but wasn't able to get anything that looked surfable with 2 people and stock balast(4 tanks).

lakesurfer 03-03-2010 12:19 PM

^^^^^^^ Why would you think you are going to get a good surf wake with stock ballast. Four tanks and no Switch Blade is only about 500 lbs on each side. I dont think you can get a good surf wake on any boat with stock ballast. You have to put to much weight on one side to surf and I cant imagine any boat maker is going to do that. However, take that Enzo 230 and add 1,500lb Enzo sacs and Switch Blade and you will have a very solid surf wake.

motogod77 03-04-2010 9:46 AM

I've surfed the 226 a lot and the boat really likes weight since it is so big/deep. I can ride all day with the stock ballast, but the thing really comes alive with about 2500 lbs and I can't wait to dial the thing in with a switchblade. I think the 226 is superior to the Enzo considering price and what you get for your dollar.

rrw71 03-05-2010 3:44 PM

Does an Enzo Sack fit in the 226?

duffymahoney 03-05-2010 3:51 PM

You just need a custom version of the enzo sac. The lockers are much bigger then the enzo's.

westsidarider 03-05-2010 7:54 PM

I have been using the FlyHigh V-drive sacks in the 226 and they have been working great. They fill just about the entire V-drive compartment up.

jdjjamesz 03-06-2010 6:00 PM

what up
Hey jason where does your buddy live that sent you that picture I wan to go try that wake and do a write up on that boat.

gunz 03-06-2010 6:19 PM

Wake envy:eek:

westsidarider 03-06-2010 11:05 PM

James- I tried sending you a PM but I think there are still a few glitches in the new WW site. Email me and we can figure something out. callenj@ymail.com

desotodave 03-09-2010 7:22 AM

If they could change the graphics on the boat, and the interior and dash then i might look at it. They are trying to just to WAYYYYY too much with the graphics and it just makes you dizzy!

bac 03-09-2010 7:56 AM

Originally Posted by desotodave (Post 1560082)
If they could change the graphics on the boat, and the interior and dash then i might look at it. They are trying to just to WAYYYYY too much with the graphics and it just makes you dizzy!

I agree with you that thats not my first choice either. But they do offer quite a few other options when it comes to graphics

desotodave 03-09-2010 8:33 AM

Oh yeah one other general comment. I have a Centurion Enzo and it only has like 40-45 gallons of fuel. My buddy's X30 has 80 or ninety. When we go to Lake Powell we sometimes drive and hour or 2 just to find the glass. Just the round trip uses up half my fuel. Seems to make sense to me that you would put larger tanks in these boats not only for range, and need to refuel on a long day, but for weight as well!!!

Anyone with me on this?

duffymahoney 03-15-2010 8:17 PM

Keep the wave pictures coming! I want to see what this boat can do.

westsidarider 03-16-2010 2:21 PM

In about a month I should have some new pics ready to post, NEW DASH included. The next time we get one out were going to re-prop is and really see what this beast can do.

duffymahoney 03-16-2010 3:03 PM

You should get custom enzo type sacs for it.

duffymahoney 03-28-2010 7:36 PM

Any more pictures?

rrw71 04-16-2010 2:29 PM

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Here's some. I've been told the dash has been revised a couple more times, so this is not going to be the exact dash. I hope to see the final design soon. I wonder what the swim step will look like? Should be another week or two till I get to see the first delivery.

duffymahoney 04-16-2010 2:37 PM

That is one crazy deep boat! Can't wait to see it with custom enzo type surf sacs. I think it's gonna make everything else lame!

rrw71 04-16-2010 3:31 PM

I'm can't wait to do a demo...

bac 04-16-2010 4:55 PM

Originally Posted by duffymahoney (Post 1574237)
That is one crazy deep boat! !

That made me stop and stare when I got to that picture. Thats a very deep hull

I agree with the potential for this boat. Especially with that one pic above.

motogod77 04-16-2010 5:43 PM

^^^^^ - Agreed Duffy - I had a demo V226 last year and ran it against an Enzo with the same weight and it does make everything else look lame. Our next one is being built as we speak - can't wait for its arrival!

dennish 04-17-2010 10:04 AM

I heard a rumor that there will be a V226 at the Wake9 wakesurf festival in May.

duffymahoney 04-17-2010 11:06 AM

That would be sweet! Someone really needs to spend some time dialing it in take some notes on weight, location etc....

dennish 04-17-2010 11:17 AM

I think that is the plan before the event. I will be dialing it in hopefully prior to the event.

duffymahoney 04-17-2010 12:43 PM

Sacs or lead? Do you access to an enzo sac? The lockers are much bigger then an enzo but the sac would be a great start.

ralph 04-18-2010 1:20 PM

Love the dash render. If they can make it look like that in reality then they have a winner IMO

bjeremi 04-19-2010 10:37 AM

Anybody have any idea on the wakeboarding wake?

duffymahoney 04-19-2010 10:52 AM

Wakeboarding magazine said it was great. It was included in the reviews edition.

younguns44 04-26-2010 8:58 PM

go with x30

duffymahoney 04-26-2010 9:06 PM

What, X30? This supreme is the deepest boat out. Should be awesome! Any more pictures?

ralph 04-26-2010 9:53 PM

What a Mastecraft X30? Ha ha ha. Great insight, I think you are in the wrong place, try mymastercraft.com.

colombiansurfer 04-27-2010 10:42 AM

Holy **** that wake is huge!!! I have to agree with duffy in that that just might be the largest wake out there for now.

islander033 04-27-2010 11:50 AM

I won't buy into it until it pulls a competition or two and see what the pros think about it.

duffymahoney 04-27-2010 11:57 AM

Yeah for sure. Dennis said on this thread that wake9 might get to test one. I talked to one of the designers and it's deeper then an enzo and the deep part of the hull starts sooner on the boat thus displacing more water. The angles are a mix between an enzo and an avalanche. The designer was also the enzo designer, which is a huge plus in my book. Lockers will hold a 1800 pound enzo type fat sac. At least that's from my measurements. I can't wait to see what this boat can do.

dennish 04-27-2010 3:51 PM

Actually the testing will be done for California Marine Sports in Suisun. They will be using the Supreme to pull their board demos at the Festival.

duffymahoney 04-27-2010 4:54 PM

Are you going to help weight it?

dennish 04-27-2010 7:30 PM

Yes I will be the one weighting it. and getting it dialed in. The festival will be pulled by Tige 2010 RZ2. We have two identical boats coming from the factory one for each side.

desotodave 04-29-2010 8:02 AM

So, what is the deal with this boat. I have seen a couple pictures, it is on their web site, but does not seem like it is readily available? Has anyone actually surfed behind this boat, or seen anything but promotional info? I would like to see a few NON FACTORY people just go out for a day and try it out.

duffymahoney 04-29-2010 8:06 AM

David, I think Dennis is one of the best people out to test this boat. Take lots of pictures and notes. It might be weight sensitive like the Avy?

desotodave 04-29-2010 9:37 AM

Just weird to me that they "launched" the boat in November of 2008 (18 months ago) and we don't really have any good feedback from owners. Did they launch the boat, and then not make any?

From the Supreme website:

2009 will be the most exciting year Supreme Boats has ever embarked on.

The New highly anticipated V226 is completed! The design team developed the V226 from a clean sheet of paper. We now have snap out carpet / swivel drivers seat and a ride that is second to none. The 226 has the deepest V on the market today! Also the V226 has been engineered to have the most stable wake platform ever created with the most advanced styling in the industry. The team of engineers has developed what other companies could not, a 22 ft boat that has more interior room than a 24. We are very proud of our R&D departments' effort in making sure everything is exactly how we wanted it. Schedule your test drive today.

duffymahoney 04-29-2010 9:45 AM

I have talked to a few. Also a wakeboard-surf school in europe has one. Supreme isn't a huge company. I think it will take time, and remember that the last couple of years have been very very tough on the boat manu's. A dealer in Lynnwood WA is getting one. My local dealer also might get one.

desotodave 04-29-2010 11:40 AM

I have also heard rumors about a local dealer getting them, but it all seems so quite. If you have a boat that is the "Boat of the Year" it should be out there and getting more pub. You thinking of getting one?

duffymahoney 04-29-2010 12:08 PM

Well only if I could get enough out of my Avalanche. Maybe next year. I think this design with it's depth will be the new standard. Safer boats for as much weight as we run.

liljohn 04-29-2010 12:31 PM

Does anyone have a contact for the lynwood washington dealer? I live here in the state and have done a few reviews for malibu. I would be more than willing to put one together for the supreme. let me know if anyone has an in.

duffymahoney 04-29-2010 2:41 PM

Lynnwood Motolpex.

425 774 0505

liljohn 04-29-2010 7:07 PM

LMAO! Thanx Duffy I know that much. I was wondering if any one had a personal relationship with one of the people working there. When I did the reviews for Malibu it was spured by a sales man and had to be blessed by the owner. Then when Malibu found out about it we were doing the 23lsv a month later. I will give them a call and see what they have to say.

ragboy 04-29-2010 8:25 PM

Wow, that looks like a nice wake, and a nice boat. Does anyone know what they cost? roughly? Sorry if I am missing it, I know I have been away for a bit.

wakebrdjay 04-30-2010 4:42 AM

There was 1 on Onlyinboards listed at $49,999.00.

liljohn 04-30-2010 8:40 AM

Ok Lynwood moto plex has Email. lets see if they will let us review it!

Ragboy if you do a search you will find that it looks like only 4 have been built or at least I cant find anymore then 4 different gel styles.

desotodave 04-30-2010 12:43 PM

That kind of makes sense that only a few boats have been built. I have looked for one for sale, tried to find pictures etc. but it seems like they don't really exist. I think that is so strange where 18 months ago they were supposedly voted BOAT OF THE YEAR. You would think they would capitalize on that press. I understand the market has tanked, and don't blame them if they put off true production of the boat, just curious about the boat.

Seems like there are a group of people on here who are interested as well, if someone works for Supreme fee free to jump in here and let us all know the scoop!!!

duffymahoney 04-30-2010 12:56 PM

I talked to the ceo. He is suppose to get me more info.

desotodave 04-30-2010 1:06 PM

Funny!! I just called too!

duffymahoney 04-30-2010 2:15 PM

I usually email him. What did he say?

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Old     (CTXxRoss)      Join Date: Apr 2013       06-23-2013, 10:04 AM Reply
So I was running two battery's in the boat.. Yesterday I moved my house battery up front to under the glove box in that storage area to make room for extra fat sacs I bought and I moved the amps from under the steering wheel to that same compartment as the house battery. Problem is that now both my alpine amps are going into protect mode when I flip them on. I thought it was a problem with the remote wire so I ran a single wire to just one amp and same thing... I'm confused and have no clue what the problem is. Could it have something to do with a shorter length of wire between the amps and battery and maybe the wrong gauge wire? It all worked just fine before I moved it all and I haven't changed anything other than where the battery and amps were.. Any ideas guys?:bang head:
Old     (brichter14)      Join Date: Jul 2010       06-23-2013, 10:10 AM Reply
Sounds like a bad ground.
Old     (ian_ashton)      Join Date: Jul 2008       06-23-2013, 10:15 AM Reply
I bet you've got a short in speaker wires. Check we're they connect to the amp first, make sure none of the +/- are touching.

If your good there disconnect one at a time from the amp, flip it on - if it goes into protect keep going, if not you just found the shorted channel, trace the wires and go from there.
Old     (CTXxRoss)      Join Date: Apr 2013       06-23-2013, 10:39 AM Reply
Ok... Ill try the speaker wires first. I don't think its a bad ground bc its all right there, I don't see how it could not be grounding. I really really hope its not a short inside the tower
Old     (Camsquared211)      Join Date: Jun 2013       06-23-2013, 11:51 AM Reply
If its not your ground, speaker wires, or fuses...
Try testing the voltage on the terminals to the amp. Some amps go into protection mode when the voltage is low. I would try recharging your battery anyway. Something could have been left on while you were working on your boat. Amps don't like running when the battery doesn't have a good charge.
Old     (CTXxRoss)      Join Date: Apr 2013       06-23-2013, 12:01 PM Reply
I used a small jumper wire and jumped from the remote hook up on the amp to the 12volt+ and the amp came on and speakers work just perfect. So I'm thinking the remote is the problem. Could the head unit not have enough power to push current through a long stretch of remote wire to reach the amps? I'm going from the head unit, out the front into the bow storage, across the bow storage, and into the storage compartment under the glove box.
Old     (CTXxRoss)      Join Date: Apr 2013       06-23-2013, 12:16 PM Reply
I'm also not getting any power from the remote wire on the hu.. Hooked up a test light to it grounded to the battery and flipped my acc switch and got nothing.
Old     (chpthril)      Join Date: Oct 2007       06-23-2013, 2:17 PM Reply
If you used a 12v test lamp on the head-units remote turn-on wire to test it, you may have shorted it. That test lamp could possibly pull more current then that circuit is intended to carry. But, I do not see a lack of voltage on the turn-on circuit putting an amp into protect mode. No voltage means no turn on. The amp wont know the head-unit is trying to turn on, it just knows when there is or isnt voltage on that circuit.

I would get a volt meter and start at the battery, then go to the amp's B+ anf B- terminals, then the head-unit's yellow B+ and B- and red turn-on wire. Next, text the blue-wht amp turn-on wire for voltage with the meter at the amp, then at the head-unit if the amps do not turn on.
Old     (david_e_m)      Join Date: Jul 2008       06-23-2013, 5:42 PM Reply
If two amplifiers are both showing the same behavior then you have already narrowed it down to something they both have in common. Any shared speaker wires would be a major mistake.
Re-establish that all supply B+, grounds, and the remote turn-on are good as those are all common to both amplifiers. Connections/terminations that look good visually may not be as tight as they should be. Voltages that measure fine with no load may measure differently under load. Make sure that ALL audio equipment is supplied from the same battery. Verify that the source unit has a solid ground.
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Old     (CTXxRoss)      Join Date: Apr 2013       06-23-2013, 8:25 PM Reply
The amps don't share any connection except the remote wire. The house battery isn't hooked up to the drive battery at the moment bc i didn't get around to running wires from the drive battery to the house battery yet. I was just using the battery unhooked to test the amps out.. I don[t get why the remote isn't working off the back of the head unit. Like i said i can jump from the 12V+ to the remote and amp powers on and everything works fine. I even tried jumping the remote wire to the power wire that goes from the head unit to the aux switch and it did the same thing.. Wouldn't power on the amp..
Old     (Camsquared211)      Join Date: Jun 2013       06-23-2013, 8:38 PM Reply
Did you have both your amps spliced to the same remote wire coming out of the deck? If so the remote wire on the deck may have been fried. Some decks are meant to only power 1 amp remote wire. To avoid this problem people usually install a relay so it does not strain the deck. There are other ways to hook up your remote wire if the head unit remote output is fried so dont worry!
Old     (CTXxRoss)      Join Date: Apr 2013       06-23-2013, 9:09 PM Reply
yea im about 90% sure i fried the remote wire with the 2 amps... But what confused me more is that when I spliced into the power wire going from the HU to the aux switch with the remote wire on the amp it still didn't power up the amp...
Old     (Camsquared211)      Join Date: Jun 2013       06-23-2013, 9:17 PM Reply
So from my understanding you have a 12 v switch that turns on and off the hu? And you tried to splice the amp remote into there? Did you check the voltage of the closed switch?
Old     (CTXxRoss)      Join Date: Apr 2013       06-24-2013, 6:19 AM Reply
No... Shouldn't the voltage on the closed switch be nothing? But your are correct, it's a 12V aux switch that turns my HU on and off.
Old     (Camsquared211)      Join Date: Jun 2013       06-24-2013, 12:37 PM Reply
Well the voltage of a closed switch means the circuit is "closed" meaning it is in the "on" position. I think thats what you meant tho. One important thing to think about before you connect the remote wire of the amps to the aux switch you have... Is the aux switch supplying power to the head unit or is it supplying power to the remote switch of the hu? also (sometimes the power and the remote wire is spliced together). If the aux switch is supplying power to the unit there should be no problem with running the remote wire to the aux switch because that power line is meant to drive the hu. (its a good Idea to make sure the line is supplying a constant 12v)
On the other hand, if the aux switch is only supplying power to the remote switch of the hu, then you should check the specs of that switch and see how much that one line can support. (You dont want to fry the power line if it is only rated for one remote line; just like the back of the head unit).
The safest way to go is to make switches to turn on and off each amp all on seperate power lines. This is so you can choose what amp you want to run at any given moment. We all know, no one likes the jerk blasting tower speakers coming out of a residential marina on a Sunday morning!
The problem you are having seems odd to me. I hope this helps!

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Old    Nick Tomsyck (sidekicknicholas)      Join Date: Mar 2007       03-15-2011, 11:33 AM Reply
Not to long ago I bought a Lexus IS250 - with the current rim/tire setup I have more wheel well gap than I would like.... my problem is that its really hard for me to try and justify lowering an already low car in Wisconsin.

My options seem to be:

I figured I could do coil-overs and go up and down every spring/fall but thats a PITA (no airbags - to much $$$)

Larger tires to fill in the gap but might look just as odd when all said and done

Just deal with the gap

Anyone have/had this problem with wanting to lower a car in an area that can get hammered by snow

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Old    Joe B (sailing216)      Join Date: Oct 2007       03-15-2011, 12:26 PM Reply
I'm the one with the lowered Black IS posted when you were shopping.

As already stated, seperate wheels with snowtires is a great move. I have stock 17" with snows, and 18" better offset and summer tires.

Ask yourself, are you really going to drive that car in over 4" of snow????

So you got 5" clearance now and lowered on Eibach springs makes it 4". I just stay home with that much snow on the roads or wait for the plows.

BTW, I replaced stock struts at 80k miles with 65k of them on eibach springs only. Picked up a slightly used set of stock struts (not f-sport) for $150 and my car rides great again and at 125k miles now. No wheel gap and rides the same as a sport setup (firm, no bounce). go to clublexus.com and lower that beast
Old    Dave (bcrider)      Join Date: Apr 2006       03-15-2011, 12:32 PM Reply
A 1" lowering spring isn't really going to make much of a difference that would justify the $$ to do so. I personally don't think it looks that bad as the gap atleast looks about even all of the way around opposed having more of a gap on top then sides.

I found this on a site

Standard Rim f/r = 17"x7"
Standard Tyre f/r = 215/45-17
(A -40mm drop is possible with this combination)

18" upgrade f/r =18"x7 1/2"
18" upgrade f/r =225/40/18
18" upgrade f/r =18"x8"
18" upgrade f/r =225/40/18
18" upgrade r =18"x8.5"
18" upgrade r =255/35-18
(A -30mm drop is possible with these combinations, however minor arch rolling is needed with the 255/35 combination)

19" upgrade f/r =19"x8"
19" upgrade f/r = 235/35-19
(A -25mm drop is possible with these combinations)
With 19's don't run any rim bigger than 8" on the front as it will hit the strut.19's will rub on the front inner arch at full lock, but this can be solved by cutting or bending away some of the plastic trim
Old    Nick Tomsyck (sidekicknicholas)      Join Date: Mar 2007       03-15-2011, 12:43 PM Reply
I was thinking about a 1" or 1.5" drop all around if I did lower it (as low as I can go w/o any other mods) which looks possible from @Dave's numbers (thanks for that!)....

I usually take "the back way" to work - then I can haul ass and not worry about cops, but you bring up a good point -- if there is weather/snow odds are I would take the highways which are clear pretty early.... odds are it wouldn't bother me more than maybe like 1/2 times a year.

Odds are I'll end up doing it once I'm home from school and have a garage.... Thanks guys.

@JoeB - have you done anything else to yours you would recommend - I plan on a roof spoiler really soon - I love they way they look on this car....
I'm really glad I went with this car, its just beautiful!!!!
Old    Ian Ashton (ian_ashton)      Join Date: Jul 2008       03-15-2011, 1:51 PM Reply
Just lower it with some Eibachs or whatever, as stated above. A few years ago I had a Chrysler 300 that I put Eibach's on (I live in Michigan) and it was fine - only in the very worst of snow storms would it be even remotely an issue - sometimes the exhaust would drag on the high center part of the road if ruts were really bad, but that might have been once or twice, driving home from work when it would snow a ton during the day.

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Old    Hate N Pain (hatepain)      Join Date: Aug 2006       03-15-2011, 2:14 PM Reply
I did an Eibach kit on my Acuar back in the day. It was 1" front 1.4" in the back if I recall correctly. It worked out great and I love it, I feel you could benefit from the same thing.
Old    Tyler (lseghatch)      Join Date: Aug 2005       03-16-2011, 5:29 PM Reply
Nick, If go with springs you may want to look at how much new struts are going to cost.

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New Cardiff player-coach Andrew Lord sends message to fans, saying: "It's going to be one heck of a season."

Lord of the Devils pledges 'passion, hard work, desire, speed, skill, size, grit and toughness' for the 2014-15 Elite League season

Cardiff Devils' player-coach Andrew Lord

ANDREW Lord, Cardiff Devils' new player-coach, answers questions on his new role from his home in Canada.

Devils have signed 10 players so far - five imports including Lord plus five British guys including goaltender Ben Bowns. They can have have 12 imports in total, at least one of whom must be a British passport holder.

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1 Have you always wanted to get into coaching?

Lord: Absolutely.  I’ve been coaching in some capacity from a very young age.  Whether it was drawing up on-ice drills for a few buddies in the summer, helping run full skills sessions during the off-season or helping coach in Oklahoma City (American League) when I missed a season due to injury.

I’ve always had a passion for coaching. There is no better feeling than helping someone improve and seeing how excited they get about bettering themselves.

2 Your experience of Cardiff Devils last season could not have been the best When the chance came up to become player/coach how did that impact on your decision? Was it difficult or could you see the passion of Devils fans and the potential under new owners?

Lord: When I lined up on the goal line for my first exhibition game in Cardiff I could not believe how loud it was. Since that day I have been in awe of Devils fans’ passion and overall excitement for the game.

The fans in Cardiff love hockey and so do I. No question. I instantly loved playing in front of them.

I always hoped for everyone involved things would get better - and then they did!  When I was approached about the player/coach position I jumped at it and was more excited then I could ever explain.

The new ownership is incredible and I have two great people in Todd Kelman and Neil Francis to work with. That is a rare opportunity.  I still don’t think it has sunk in to be honest just how this all came about and how lucky I am.!

3: Ten players have signed now including yourself, five of them imports. Are you working with Neil Francis and Todd Kelman on recruitment?

Lord: Yes, Todd, Neil and I are working extremely hard recruiting.  It really is a great dynamic because we all have our different contacts and we all work extremely well together.

I don’t know if any of us are getting much sleep right now, but it will all be worth it in the end.  Because I am eight hours behind with the time change, I think at least one of us is always awake and working.

4: What sort of team will Andrew Lord’s Cardiff Devils’ be? Physical? Aggressive? Quick? Full of passion? How would you describe your philosophy?

Lord: Our team will be made up of guys who are passionate, hard working, want to improve and have a great desire to win.

After that, each player will help cover a balanced attack of speed, skill, size, grit and toughness.  If you look at any Championship team they always have a great balance of different types of players and we are doing everything we can to find the best possible players for each role.

5 What are your expectations for 2014-15, Devils’ last season in the Big Blue Tent? The fans are fired up and the atmosphere should be fantastic, but will it take time to really push Giants, Panthers, Steelers and Co for the top honours?

Lord: We will try to win every match. In all seriousness that is how we are going to approach the season.

We are going to have the mentality of 'we will win our next game'.

Quite often there can be a lot of wasted energy thinking about past performances or things in the future which cannot be controlledl.

I want a consistent team and in order to have that we need to focus on only the next game through great preparation and focus.  If we can block out everything else and focus on each individual game our chance of success will be very high.

Over the course of the season if we maintain our focus we will have lots of success and I firmly believe we can challenge anybody in our league.  I would love nothing more than to bring a championship back to our great fans and city.

6 Do you have a message for Cardiff Devils' fans?

Lord: I thank many of you for your personal messages!  I’m really sorry if I haven’t responded yet, but things have been pretty wild. I do have every intention to get back to everybody.

This is truly the start of a new era in Cardiff Devils hockey.

We are doing everything we possibly can to make this a team and organisation that people will be proud to call their own.

We want to add value to people's entertainment and lives.

I would ask all supporters to spread the word that it is a new day and time for people to get excited, come together and be a part of something that means so much to so many people.

I can’t wait to get back to Cardiff and see you all at our first game!  It is going to be one heck of a night and one heck of a season!  Go Devils.

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Regardless of their analytical approach, the same result rose to top — the new dog park is best suited for the former Lanning Farm on the western city limits of Wapakoneta.
During a brief 15-minute meeting Thursday, Wapakoneta City Council Parks and Recreation Committee members recommended city administrators — Mayor Rodney Metz and Safety-Service Director Bill Rains — work with local Boy Scout Travis Rohrbach and a group of citizens to develop between 1 and 1 1/2 acres of ground for a dog park.
“The reasons for us choosing the Lanning Farm is the land is immediately available, there is a lot of ground available for the park, there is room to create a parking area and there is water at the site,” 1st Ward Councilor and Parks and Recreation Chair Jim Neumeier said, noting the only land off limits at the property is the required area around the water wells. “If we look at it from the other way, there wasn’t land available at Veterans Memorial Park, land at the Centennial property is spoken for except for a small area which I don’t think would have been large enough and the Ohio Department of Natural Resources (ODNR) squashed our plans for Harmon Park ground.”
Neumeier, who wanted to determine an area for the dog park by Aug. 1, said he also favors the Lanning Farm because it gives them the potential for a park on the western edge of the city. He and fellow committee member 4th Ward Councilor Chad Doll discussed placing some stored playground equipment at the Lanning Farm, located on Herbstritt Street, to make it more attractive.
Neumeier also likes the fact an existing fence can be used for the dog park and enough fencing may be available to separate the small and large dog areas. Two gates also exist at the property which could be used as part of the dog park.
Doll remarked a water source already exists at the Lanning Farm for drinking water for the dogs and dog owners and the water could eventually be tapped if restrooms were added at a later date.
Another positive to creating the dog park at the Lanning Farm is many of the supporters voiced displeasure with the ground at Harmon Park possibly being flooded at times when the Auglaize River swelled.
During the meeting, Rains explained ODNR officials would likely not have approved building fences for the dog park at Harmon Park. ODNR rules restrict fences being built perpendicular to a river where it could catch and hold debris.
“The land proposed at Harmon Park is indeed in the flood plain and it would cost a relatively significant amount in engineering fees just to do the hydrology study so it is not really practical to expend those funds when we are told we can’t run a fence that is perpendicular to the river,” Rains said.
Neumeier also liked the savings that could arise from placing the dog park at the Lanning Farm.
“I like the fact that the fundraising efforts by Rohrbach and dog park supporters can be used for something other than fencing if the fencing at the site can be used,” Neumeier said. “They should be able to use the fencing because I think it is still in pretty good shape.”
Metz said the city could use asphalt grindings from a fall street project to develop a parking lot area. He also proposed the idea of possibly moving some trees at the Lanning Farm to provide shade for the park — but only if it was feasible and money was available.
Neumeier said he intended to discuss the next steps with Rohrbach and other dog park supporters.
“I want them to go out and look at the land with city administrators and help us determine what is the best location for the dog park and if it flies with the city’s plans for the land,” Neumeier told the Wapakoneta Daily News. “If we can get plans done, then I want them to be able to get started on it as soon as possible. I am glad the city can help with getting the fence down and reinstalling it and doing the parking lot area.”


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MINSTER – Both of Auglaize County’s remaining teams in the ACME district tournament overcame dicey early innings to pick up wins on Monday night at Hanover Street Park and set up a match-up tonight.

Minster fell behind by four runs early before scoring 14 unanswered runs in a 14-4 run-rule win over Anna while Auglaize County sectional champ Wapakoneta escaped from a bases-loaded jam in the fourth inning with a double play and went on to defeat Fort Loramie 9-2 in the nightcap.

Minster and Wapakoneta will play tonight at 6:30 p.m. at Minster.

Fort Loramie and Anna will play each other on Wednesday night in an elimination game.

Chandler Kaeck came on in relief in the fourth inning and  got Wapakoneta out of a bases-loaded jam with the go-ahead run on base.

After Brandon Miller departed with the bases loaded and Wapak clinging to a 4-2 lead, Kaeck coaxed Fort Loramie leadoff hitter Aaron Boerger to ground to Wapak shortstop Josh Apple. Apple stepped on second for the force out and threw on to first to end the threat.

Wapakoneta rolled from that point on.

The Redskins extended their lead with two runs in the fifth on a Brandon Miller RBI grounder and Marshall Gerlach’s RBI single for a 6-2 lead.

Wapak scored three runs in the sixth. Brandon Schreiber’s grounder brought home Apple and Kaeck’s opposite field double down the left field line plated Schreiber and Miller to put the Redskins up 6-2.

Kaeck worked three and 2-3 innings of relief, striking out six and walking two. He struck out the side to end the game in the seventh.

Fort Loramie’s runs came in the third and fourth innings.

A throwing error by Wapakoneta in the third allowed Boerger to go all the way around the bases from first base after a Zach Brandewie one-out single to right field got under the glove.

Fort Loramie scored just one run in the fourth despite loading the bases twice in the inning.

After Devon Braun reached on an error, Darren Gephart was hit by a pitch and Tanner Rittenhouse singled softly into left field to load the bases, Grant Olberding brought home a run with a sacrifice fly to medium deep center that brought home Braun. After a walk to ninth hitter Blake Gaier re-loaded the bases, Wapak starter Brandon MIller departed in favor of Kaeck. Kaeck got the game-changing double play.

The whole tenor of the opening game changed in the bottom of the fourth inning with Minster’s two-out rally.

Trailing 4-3 in a tight game, Minster had four straight players reach base after the first two batters were out in the inning.

Max Huber singled, Jay Eilerman walked and then Andrew Knapke blasted a two-run double over the head of the Anna left fielder to give the Wildcats their first lead of the game at 5-4. Knapke came around from second to score on an Anna error.

Minster followed that up with an eight-run fifth inning that triggered the 10-run rule.

Devon Poeppelman singled in a run and four runs scored on wild pitches in the inning.

Clay Brown’s two-run single drove in J.R. Nixon and Brandon Hoying to end the game.

Minster got three runs in the second inning on an RBI groundout by Jacob Wuebker, an RBI single by Eilerman and an infield RBI single by Andrew Knapke.

Knapke finished the game 2 for 2 with three runs batted in. Clay Brown was 2 for 3 with two runs batted in. Eilerman scored three runs.

Hoying started the game for MInster on the mound and worked the complete game. He gave up four runs — only one of them earned — on seven hits. He struck out eight and walked two.

Anna’a Josh Robinson took the loss. He worked four and one-third innings, giving up 11 runs on nine hits. He struck out three and walked four.

Luke Cummings led the Rockets at the plate. He went 2 for 3 with two runs batted in.


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  • Profile picture of the author perswealth
    Actually that VIP membership just went up to 3 payments of 197. I guess alot of people were joining the VIP membership, so he increased it.

    Just to clarify, the front-end product is $77, but the upsell is if you want more in depth coaching, which WAS the 2 payments of $197, but has now been increased to 3 payments of $197.
  • Profile picture of the author seanybyrne
    Interesting all right...

    How do you get traffic to your number? Is this all about paid traffic?

  • Profile picture of the author Hans Klein
    >>> How do you get traffic to your number? Is this all about paid traffic?

    There's a free section where he gives away 11 free promotion tactics. Justin recommends that section if you have less than $100 to spend. He said that he has some campaigns that do $400 a day with just free traffic.
  • Profile picture of the author TPFLegionaire
    Originally Posted by StarT View Post

    Pay per call is a relatively new field in IM, I have found some offers on Offermobi that pay up to $45 per call, maybe fellow warriors can add more networks. .

    Just had a look at the sales page (which, as sales page go, is pretty awesome). If you close the page you will be presented with an optin giving you access to a list of 22 companies and network. This should help you in your research.

    I am not going to buy it just now as i am unfocused enough as it is but it's a clickbank offer so you can take a look at no risk and bit of your time.

    hope this helps.
  • Profile picture of the author ChadH
    It's a good course... I promoted it with success and I RARELY promote stuff to my list that is not my own. I had access to it back in November. I have very very in depth experience with paid traffic.

    So that has probably helped... I have hit over $1,000 days with his methodology. I was so impressed I have been giving away my entire Traffic Blackbook series as a bonus for it. All in all, impressive!
  • Profile picture of the author TrafficBot
    ChadH: Great to see you here from Mobile Money Bandit JV blog on facebook. Like Chad said Justin Elenburg is the real deal and his course is excellent. His support staff is great and they get back to you in a timely fashion if you have a question. This is not your typical mobile marketing course that has hit the internet in recent weeks and months. He really knows his stuff and actually practices what he teaches in his course unlike many of the other mobile marketing launches out there.
  • Profile picture of the author aminur
    it's a brilliant course to be honest. i got the training and the vip upsell. Awesome content packed together.
  • Profile picture of the author johnchristopher
    I don't think it would bring any traffic to your number... would it?? Is there anyone with personal experience??
  • Profile picture of the author mge
    If Chad recommends a product that is good enough for me.
  • Profile picture of the author Blazon1
    There was a WSO earlier last year that covered pay-per-call. If you find this one too pricey, maybe you can find that one in the WSO forum (if it is still open). I think it had pretty good reviews.
  • Profile picture of the author marceauct
    If you are having trouble getting someone to click on your adsense ad imagine how hard it is to get someone to pick up the phone and dial your number.
  • Profile picture of the author Woody C
    Originally Posted by mjzivko View Post

    All these WSO and Clickbank products are worthless. The only people making big money are the people peddling this stuff.
    I'm confused.

    Did you actually purchase the product and not like it?

    Can you go into more detail as to why you didn't like it?

    If you haven't purchased it, why are you commenting on the thread?
  • Profile picture of the author mjzivko
    Originally Posted by Woody C View Post

    I'm confused.

    Did you actually purchase the product and not like it?

    Can you go into more detail as to why you didn't like it?

    If you haven't purchased it, why are you commenting on the thread?
    I did not buy the Mobile Money Bandit. I almost did. I have bought so many WSO offers and I finally realized what was happening to me. The way they advertise them is genious. They get me all pumped and whipping out the credit card in minutes. But the truth is no of these WSO has ever contributed to my bottom line.

    Look, some of these WSO offers are good. There is one now for auto blog commenting for $15, that would be a good benefit to some people. Its also has to do what you do with them after you buy them. Unfortunetly they always advertise them as "next big thing" and it turns out to be a let down in the end. (for me that is). And I almost bought the Auto Blog Software! LOL. The marketing is just soooo effective. But resist the temptation and take a day to think and research the product. It will save you time and money

    I beleive that the Mobile Money Bandit will give you a list of Pay Per Call campaigns that you can find for Free (look at Ringrevenue, then sign up for the companies using Ringrevenue) I also believe that MMB will tell you how to tap into Mobile PPC. Just go to Google Mobile Ads or Microsoft Ad Center. And then they will rehas the same old Google Places, website building and link building info that is readily available to all of us for free on the web (and warriorforum is a great resource)

    Correct me if Im wrong about MMB, but what are they really going to show us? Why would they risk their current success by selling the system to rest of the world. So do the math. they claim to make 145K per month using this system. The system cost $77. So if they are making abot 3K per day, they would need to sell 40 WSO a day to match that effort and warrent this HUGE risk. 40 a day is 14,600 sales a year. It just doesnt make sense why they would sell their system for so cheap if they are making so much money. How in the world could they maintain a 40 sales per day number? And how long could this program be relavent?

    The only answer could be the following:
    1. They are NOT really making 145K a month from this system
    2. The system is untested and unproven, but in theory would work
    3. Is a waste of time and money

    If you interested in Pay Per Call it is nothing different the Pay Per Click. All the same rules apply. You have to build good sites and get good traffic. If your looking for Pay Per Call clients just do a quick Google search.

    Hope this helps
  • Profile picture of the author perswealth

    I get what you're saying, but given that you haven't purchased the product, then you really have no business commenting on this thread, as it is for people that have actually bought the product and used it and have a USEFUL opinion.

    Look, we've all been suckered into buying worthless stuff that didn't do anything for our bottom line, I'm with you on that. It's an experience i'm sure everyone on this forum has had. If you haven't, consider yourself in the minority, and you probably haven't been around the block that long.

    And are there bad people out there selling junk to separate you from your money, unfortunately, yes. That's the world we live in. It is what it is.

    BUT, to say that EVERYONE is peddling junk without even trying the product is not only doing a disservice to the people that are interested in buying the product, but also to the product owner that created the product.

    You say that you have generated several million dollars online? Congratulations. Personally, I applaud you. I assume it wasn't easy. I do OK online (not millions), and it has been VERY hard, and VERY frustrating, but worth it.

    So i'll also make an assumption that you are a product owner in some form or another. Now let me ask you this. What if you had put your blood, sweat, and tears into a product to genuinely help people in a niche that you were targeting

    Then one day you visit a forum (about your niche) and come upon a post from a bitter poster who hasn't even purchased your product, and says this:

    "Yeah, don't even waste your time with mjzivko,'s product. It's probably rehashed junk that you could get somewhere else for free. Another B.S. product. Don't waste your money."

    How fair do you think that would be to your hard work? How would that make you feel? Do you think that's right? I hope you don't, because it's not.

    And as to your comment about it being nothing new, maybe there are people out there that have never done pay per call? I being one of them. So i have no point of reference. And if you do have PPCall experience and are doing well, then obviously this is not for you.

    And they don't only talk about free ways to make money with this, they talk about the paid ways, which is the main reason i bought the course in the first place. I'm already well versed in SEO and stuff like that so I didn't really look at that part of the course. Yes, i purchased and i will get to my review in a minute.

    But the point is that not everyone that gets on Warrior know about the different products and all the strategies to make money that come out in the marketplace, PPCall may be one of them. So they are new and looking for guidance. Could they get the information for free about PPCall form the net?

    Personally, i haven't seen any, but i'm sure if i really looked I might find something from different places on the net. But you know what? That takes time and effort and you said yourself to not waste time. I completely agree. Time is a luxury that we don't have an infinite amount of (and some less than others depending on age).

    So I'd rather buy a course and learn all in one place, than to have to scour the internet to find all the "disjointed" information where it won't be all uniform, and i'll have to put the jigsaw puzzle of information together, which will take even MORE time, and may even confuse me even more than before.

    And if i have questions about the "free" information that i find on the net (which i most definitely will), can i ask questions to the guys that put that "free" information out there? No

    And about the wasting money part, if I decided to try and teach myself in order to save on the $77, then blew through $1k trying to learn how to do this, did i really save money?
    That's why i never really understood the "Save your money and don't waste your time" argument, when, in fact, you're doing neither when you go it alone dong it the free way.

    And if the product sucks? Get a refund. They have a 60 day no questions asked refund if you aren't satisfied. So where is the risk?

    And about the selling of the course to the world for $77 (Much more if you take the upsell), you realize that he is building a list that that YOU are paying him to be on, right? And that list is another asset in his business, that will pay him for the rest of time by promoting affiliate offers. And you can't really put a price on what that is worth, given that the list will increase over time (as more people purchase the product) and monetizing that list through affiliate offers.

    It's just another revenue stream for him, mjzivko. Nothing more, nothing less. It's just a good business decision

    OK, enough of that. The review. I won't make this long as this post is already lengthy. Personally, i liked the product. As someone might have mentioned, you can do this either the paid way (my reason for purchasing) or the "free" way.

    He says he makes about $400 the free way, but I'm assuming he has virtual workers doing the work that he lays out because i imagine it takes a GARGANTUAN amount of work to get to $400 a day with the methods that he describes. Like Craigslist posting, yahoo answers posting, forum posting, email signatures, Facebook posting, etc.,

    And for the newbies who are really new, he teaches you how to not only how to sign up to the different networks, but also how to sign up to the PPCall networks WITHIN the network. A little tricky for some of them, but he shows you step by step on video.

    And the paid methods. Now PPCall works the same, IN THEORY, to regular PPC, but there are nuances, in terms of keywords that you use, and the methods on how to set the campaigns up correctly.

    He also talks about using "extensions" in your campaigns and how to do it. I would not have known about this if i didn't take the course. Would i have figured it out on my own? Probably, but not right away.

    He also gives great tips on how to get keyword lists, and ALOT of them, from different sources. Some free, some not. But they are good sources, all of them.

    But just make sure that you have a budget. Remember, this is PAID traffic. He recommends about $100 ( i believe he said). I don't agree. To do paid traffic, you'll need at least $500 plus to start, because remember, not all campaigns will be a success. And you need to pay for data in order to split-test and find what works.

    I could go on, but i don't want this to be a book. Bottom line, in MY opinion, this is a good product, and i won't be refunding this, unlike most products i get from Clickbank.
  • Profile picture of the author Mr Ex
    Hey Perswealth,

    A Great Response. I just purchased Mobile Money Bandit and the Upsell. I have some IM experience but I want to learn from someone who has had Success instead of trying to figure it out myself.

    Rock On,
    Mr Ex
  • Profile picture of the author rbaltiss
    excellent comment, that's exactly what I think, too.
  • Profile picture of the author MobApps
    Just watched the video this evening. Wish I could draw that good
  • Profile picture of the author xxxJamesxxx
    Thanks for reviews guys. Might take a stab at this as it's all new to me and it'll be quite exciting to try something new out.

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May 24, 2007

Ethics rules now allow ‘de minimis’ use of UW resources for approved outside work

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On the one hand, UW faculty are encouraged to help disseminate UW-created innovations beyond the world of academe. That’s what Technology Transfer is all about.

But it’s also true that state and UW policies historically limit how researchers can communicate and work with outside agencies without conflicts of interest or being seen as misusing public funds. That leaves something of a mixed message.

But legislation passed in 2005 and made effective this February — an amendment to the State Ethics Act — has slightly relaxed those ethics rules, allowing researchers a bit more leeway in consulting and other outside work, given that it is approved by the UW.

This was done by creating a new category of state employee called University Research Employee, and approving a separate system of compliance with the Ethics Act for that category. A University Research Employee can be a faculty researcher, a research scientist or even, though less often, a professional staff member who has been granted Principal Investigator status for a research grant.

“The law expressly created a new definition that allows faculty and some of our staff to engage in research and Technology Transfer-related activity using University resources that otherwise would be restricted,” explained Jeff Cheek, UW associate vice provost for research compliance and operations.

The central idea of the change is a focus on de minimus — or minimal and relatively insignificant — impact to the UW’s resources. That is, a faculty researcher or other PI may under the new rules engage in minimal communication or use of UW materials without being in violation of the ethics policies.

Certain conditions apply, however. These include:

  • That the outside work has been approved by the UW,
  • That no consumable UW resources (materials or the time of another UW employee) are used.
  • That no other UW employees are involved except those approved for the same outside work activity.
  • That the employee is not using UW resources to run a private business (other than a consulting business directly pertinent to the research and Technology Transfer efforts.)
  • That the effort does not interfere with the normal duties of the UW employee.

To clarify, here are some examples of permittable uses of UW resources by University Research Employees engaged in approved outside work:

  • Making local or toll-free phone calls on personally assigned UW phone numbers to discuss approved outside work.
  • Using a personally assigned computer and e-mail account to correspond about an outside work matter.
  • Meeting and discussing approved outside work in a personally assigned UW office.
  • Preparing a report or presentation on a personally assigned UW computer to be submitted as part of an approved outside work matter.
  • Doing research for an outside work project using UW Internet access and the UW Libraries (providing no additional charges are incurred.)

Here are some examples of use still prohibited by the Ethics Act and UW policy, even for approved outside work activities:

  • Incurring long-distance or other toll charges on a UW phone to discuss outside work matters.
  • Using UW-purchased consumables (including paper, toner, pens and other supplies) to conduct outside work.
  • Using UW laboratories, lab supplies or hardware to conduct experiments or carry out projects for outside work.
  • Using University cost centers (i.e. services for which there is a charge) for tests, assays or analyses that are part of outside work.
  • Transferring or using UW-owned intellectual property for an outside work assignment.

The new language reflects changes to The Faculty Outside Work Policy, in the University Handbook; the Personal Use of University Facilities, Computers, and Equipment by University Employees and Outside Consulting Activities and Part-Time Employment by Professional or Classified Staff Employees in the Administrative Policy Statements and the Significant Financial Interest Disclosure Policy in the Grants Information Memoranda.

The bottom line, said Cheek, is that “faculty are being asked to interact with the private sector to try to get knowledge out into the community. Does it make sense if we’re telling them that they can’t use an office telephone or computer to make the contact?”

Additional information on the rule change is available online at www.washington.edu/research/ethics.html


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- Associated Press - Sunday, April 6, 2014

BAY CITY, Texas (AP) - Brothers Stewart and Kirby Savage should be out right now, planting rice, a crop that their family has grown in Matagorda County for nearly a century. But here they sit, in their low-slung office along Texas 60, talking water, or the lack of it.

The Savage family, like many rice farmers, are facing a third year in a row without irrigation water from the Colorado River. That’s because Texas officials have cut off deliveries to maintain reservoirs near drought-stricken Austin, more than 100 miles away.

This would have seemed ludicrous not too long ago. For decades, farmers had all the water they could use from the Colorado. They now are idling land, laying off workers and wondering whether they have a future in cultivating rice.

The Savage family, for one, will try for the first time to grow corn, a less profitable crop but one that does not require the copious amounts of water that rice does.

“We have to diversify if we still want to farm,” said Stewart Savage, an affable 53-year-old who has worked at the farm nearly his entire life. “But we can’t grow enough corn to sustain (the five-family operation). We are not swapping dollars” by switching crops.

In a season of hard decisions in the Texas rice belt, growers and owners of related business say they are trying just to get to next year. Maybe it will rain by then. But it’s clear farming’s hold on the land is fragile.

“Farmers are seeing the nasty end of population growth,” in Austin and other places upstream, Ronald Kaiser, a professor of water law and policy at Texas A&M; University, told the Houston Chronicle (http://bit.ly/1fBPCau). “We are probably looking at a long-term transition” for agriculture.

The Colorado rises in West Texas, winds through the Hill Country and bisects Matagorda County before emptying into the Gulf of Mexico. Farmers on the coastal plains began drawing from the rain-fed river in the 1880s.

A half-century later, the Lower Colorado River Authority built a chain of reservoirs in Central Texas to generate power, tame floods and provide a reliable supply of water for farmers and others. The state’s population has surged since then, with more and more people moving into communities that barely existed, if at all, when the dams were constructed.

Texas projects the population of the lower Colorado watershed to double to nearly 3 million people by 2060, and it’s apparent that there is not enough water to meet everyone’s needs. The persistent drought only has heightened tensions among those who rely on the river.

Historically, growers are the largest users of Colorado water. Rice is a water-intensive crop, grown in fields flooded at 3 to 4 inches deep. In Matagorda County alone, farmers have built about 400 miles of canals to carry the river water to the cropland.

With enough water, rice farmers can harvest twice, once in July and again in October. But their supply is interruptible during dry times - unlike shares for municipalities and industry, which pay a significantly higher rate than irrigators.

In 2012, with low water levels in the reservoirs, the river authority took the unprecedented step of withholding water from the farmers. It happened again last year. And again earlier this month, the start of the growing season.

The river authority said it could not deliver water to farmers because of record low flows into the reservoirs. The lakes are now 38 percent full, meaning any release would threaten the water supply for more than 1 million people living in and around Austin, state officials said.

The river authority plans to build at least one reservoir in rice country to store rainfall on the coastal plain and ease the burden on the Central Texas lakes, but the first one will not be completed until 2017.

Its emergency orders, meanwhile, have sent a jolt through Colorado, Matagorda and Wharton counties, which usually produce 5 percent of the nation’s rice crop. The three-county area lost more than 1,200 jobs in the first year without irrigation water from the river, according to a Texas A&M; analysis released this month.

The hardest hit was Matagorda County, where more than 90 percent of its rice acreage went unplanted in the first year without water from the Colorado. As a result, the direct value of its rice production plunged from $20.7 million to $2.4 million, the Texas A&M; study found.

“The Colorado River is the economic lifeblood of Matagorda County,” said Haskell Simon, a longtime rice farmer who has been unable to grow a crop since the restrictions began.

And it’s not only the farmers who are hurting. A crop-duster went out of business, and a fuel supplier stopped making bulk deliveries to farms in Matagorda County.

BU Growers, for one, expects to see sales for seed rice and its drying and storage services drop 75 percent this year from levels three years ago. The company is looking more to Louisiana for rice to meet its brokerage contracts.

“I feel like I have one foot in the grave,” said Joe Crane, BU Grower’s managing partner.

Still, the consensus seems to be that Bay City, Matagorda County’s seat, won’t die soon. But the 17,500-person town understands that its future remains intertwined with the farmers.

The businesses tied to agriculture “can come and go,” Crane said. “But if the growers go, we won’t be back.”

In the Savage family’s office hangs a framed poster-size photograph of three combine harvesters moving across fields full of nearly waist-high rice plants. The scene is from 2011, the last year the farm received irrigation water from the Colorado.

Since then, the family has returned two of the leased machines to the dealership. There’s no reason to keep all of them when there isn’t as much rice to harvest, Stewart Savage said as he looked at the picture.

The family, like others, survived the last two years with the help of crop insurance, but that’s going away. The payments for equipment and land and taxes are not.

This year, the Savage family will be able to pump groundwater for about 500 acres of rice, an organic variety of long-grain American basmati. But the new water supply won’t be enough to cover all of the land planted in past years.

That’s why the family is planting about 700 acres of corn, a crop that isn’t as thirsty as rice. “We’re hoping this is a one-year deal because we want to go back to rice,” Stewart Savage said. “Our land is for rice.”

Upstream interests have criticized the rice farmers for growing crops that required too much water and for exporting their product - some of the grain is shipped to Mexico and South America, among other places.

But the Savage family and other farmers say Matagorda County is uniquely suited for rice because of the clay layer under the thin topsoil, as well as the climate. The price for rice is also better than other crops.

Rice generates about two times more revenue per acre than corn, said Brent Batchelor, a Bay City-based agent for the Texas A&M; AgriLife Extension Service, which assists farmers.

In all, Matagorda County farmers will grow about 25,000 acres of corn this year, up from about 15,000 acres before the restrictions on Colorado water, Batchelor said.

Meanwhile, farmers will cultivate about 2,500 acres of rice, down from 25,000 acres three years ago.

Rather than switch crops and invest in new expensive equipment or a water well, Billy Mann will let cattle graze where he once grew rice. “The payout will take too long for me,” said Mann, 73, whose two sons are not interested in following him into farming.

The grim situation keeps Harley Savage, the 83-year-old patriarch who followed his father and grandfather into rice farming, awake at night. He worries about the future for his sons, as well as his two grandsons, Scott and Stew, both in their 20s, who have joined the family business.

“You never think this is going to happen, that someone is going to tell you that you can’t farm,” Harley Savage said. “I think about how we can keep this all together. I just don’t know if we can support five families on corn.”

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- Associated Press - Saturday, March 8, 2014

WASHINGTON (AP) - It took the Washington Capitals nearly four years to sign Russian forward Evgeny Kuznetsov. When they finally did on Saturday, general manager George McPhee compared the new forward to a mythical creature.

“It’s kind of like seeing the Loch Ness Monster when he walked in,” McPhee said. “We’ve heard you, but we haven’t seen you. And there he was. I found it hard to believe he was standing there after all this.”

Kuznetsov. selected in the first round - 26th overall - in the 2010 NHL draft, is a 6-foot-3, 200-pound winger who spent the last four years playing for his hometown team, Chelyabinsk Traktor of Russia’s Kontinental Hockey League.

Kuznetsov led the team in scoring each season from 2010-13 and made the 2012 KHL All-Star team.

He now joins the struggling Capitals (29-25-10), who have lost three straight and are three points out of eighth place in the Eastern Conference. Kuznetsov didn’t play in Saturday night’s home game against Phoenix.

McPhee said he expects Kuznetsov to make his NHL debut on Monday at home against the Pittsburgh Penguins.

Kuznetsov has signed a deal for this season and next. McPhee said he wouldn’t discuss terms of the contract until early next week.

“When we first drafted him, I really thought that he could play with us, if not right away, within a year,” McPhee said. “I told him that and he mentioned at that time that he thought he needed two years in the KHL.”

But after completing his second season with Chelyabinsk, Kuznetsov signed to stay home for another two years.

“That was hard on us,” McPhee said.

But earlier this season, McPhee traveled to Russia and got an assurance from Kuznetsov that he would join the Capitals after his season was over. His contract with Chelyabinsk ran through May 1 and the team is participating in a consolation playoff tournament, but Kuznetsov was granted his release.

McPhee said that when Washington selected him, he believed Kuznetsov was one of the three or four best players in the draft.

“His hockey sense is really outstanding. He’s a creative player who can score goals or distribute the puck, make things happen,” McPhee said. “The construction of our team is that we’ve got big wingers and guys who can control the wall and everything else. I wanted some skill guys in the mix.”

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Beppe Sannino has not given up hope of reaching the play-offs but passionately stated Watford’s supporters – and not a top-six finish – should be the players’ motivation heading into the crunch game with Ipswich Town.

The Hornets are seven points below the play-offs with five games remaining. But the form of the sides around them and the fact they have a game in hand means the dream of a top-six finish is still alive, just.

Tomorrow’s (Saturday’s) opponents, Ipswich Town, are eighth in the Championship, level on points with Reading who occupy the final play-off place.

Watford would be sixth on goal difference had they not conceded after the 85th minute in four of their last eight matches.

Sannino made no secret of his frustration at Saturday’s injury-time goal against Millwall, which cost them another two points, after conceding late against Burnley, Blackburn Rovers and Doncaster Rovers in the last five weeks.

The Italian was still noticeably annoyed when he spoke to the media yesterday (Thursday) afternoon ahead of the Ipswich game, with Vicarage Road expected to be a sell-out.

Sannino was asked if reaching the play-offs was being used as motivation when addressing his players.

He responded with: “My players must have the motivation of thinking about how many goals we have conceded late in matches, although we are still in contention. This is a motivation.

“For me, I am not the kind of person who gives players the reasons for motivation and by talking. I would like them to watch the situation and feel the situation.

“One of the motivations should be that our stadium will be full. This [the supporters] is motivation,” Sannino stated loudly as he thumped the table.

The corresponding fixture with Ipswich on December 21 was Sannino’s first game in England.

Tractor Boys manager Mick McCarthy was impressed with Sannino’s passion during their first meeting and defended the Italian when the fourth official complained about the Hornets boss straying from his technical area.

Sannino stated McCarthy’s welcome was his overriding memory from his debut match in charge of the Golden Boys.

He explained: “I met Mick McCarthy that day and I have a good memory of that because he welcomed me into the Championship.”

Sannino went on to add: “I am perfectly aware that we now face a very good team on a very good run and they are battling for a play-off spot.

“But we are still in contention for a play-off spot until the mathematics tell us otherwise.”

Ipswich will be without their top scorer as David McGoldrick, who has netted 16 times in all competitions, had a cartilage operation yesterday and has been ruled out for the rest of the season.

McCarthy says Aaron Cresswell will be fit enough to return to his regular left-back role but Tommy Smith, Paul Anderson and Sylvan Ebanks-Blake all have niggles. Jack Marriott has been recalled from his loan spell at Skrill Premier side Woking. Watford’s injury news can be seen below.

The Hornets also travel to fourth-placed Queens Park Rangers on Monday, with kick-off at 3pm, and have five games remaining.

“Honestly, I don’t think about five matches. I think about one match; the next match,” Sannino stated when asked if his team needed to win all of their games to finish in the top six.

“But I am perfectly aware that if we win all five matches then we have a chance and if we only win three then it is unlikely.”


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Taipei: Two Chinese military planes entered Taiwan's air defence identification zone on August 25, island Defence Minister Yen Ming said.

"We responded immediately, asking them to leave," Mr Yen said in an interview in Taipei. Taiwan dispatched fighter jets to intercept the surveillance aircraft, the Taipei-based Central News Agency reported yesterday.

China rejected Taiwan's claim that two Chinese military aircraft had breached Taiwan's airspace, saying it was a "routine flight".

Taiwan scrambled its jets to intercept two Chinese military aircraft, identified as Yun-8 transport aircraft, on Monday.

The Chinese planes left without incident, Xiong Ho-ji, major general of Taiwan's Air Force Combatant Command, told reporters on Tuesday.

"Our military aircraft carried out a routine flight on the 25th in the relevant airspace, there was no occurrence of any abnormality," China's Defence Ministry said in a faxed statement to Reuters late on Tuesday.

China and Taiwan have been separately governed since 1949 when the Nationalist government retreated across the Taiwan Strait to the island. China still claims Taiwan as part of its territory, which it says it will take by force if necessary.

A Chinese fighter jet in international waters last week buzzed a US Navy surveillance aircraft within six metres feet and did a barrel roll over it in what the White House called a provocation. The August 19 incident took place about 217 kilometres east of Hainan Island, the southernmost tip of China, amid international tensions over China's increasingly assertive territorial claims.

Bloomberg, Reuters


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Chinese revellers put on their metal

Nuanquan, China: Fireworks lit up the sky across China and straw-hatted farmers in one village hurled molten metal into the air, as the country marked the end of Lunar New Year festivities.

China's Lantern Festival traditionally signals the close of 15 days of rest and feasting during the Lunar New Year, the country's biggest holiday, which sees hundreds of millions return to their ancestral homes.

Sparks will fly ... Chinese blacksmiths wait their turn to throw molten metal against a cold stone wall to create ...
Sparks will fly ... Chinese blacksmiths wait their turn to throw molten metal against a cold stone wall to create sparks, part of festivities to end the Lunar New Year celebrations, in Nuanquan, Hebei province on Sunday. Photo: AFP

Across the country, cities echoed with explosions as millions took to the streets to set off fireworks, and one village hosted a molten metal throwing festival, one of a host of ancient customs revived in recent decades.

With little more than a straw hat and goggles for protection, a team of farmers spooned molten hot metal from buckets before hurling it at a brick wall, where it rained down in fountains of glowing shards.

The spectacle brought roars of approval from the audience in Nuanquan village, a few hours drive from Beijing, which has revived the centuries-old festival in a bid to boost tourism, building a dedicated amphitheatre for the purpose.

Scrap iron collected from households in the village is melted down in primitive furnaces, which shoot flames and torrents of sparks into the night sky behind the Technicolor stage.

Donning a straw hat and a woolly jacket, one 49-year-old maize farmer completed his transition to a fire-thrower, telling AFP: "I love doing it... there's no danger at all."

The fiery festival is said to have been invented over 300 years ago by poor blacksmiths in the village who could not afford the fireworks traditionally used during the season.

"We have an ancient saying, 'If you don't set off fireworks or throw molten metal ... the village won't be peaceful'. We still believe that," festival performer Liu Yueqing said, before taking to the stage in a bright yellow uniform.

But the festival was banned during the tumultuous decade of the Cultural Revolution from 1966 to 1976. "If you took part, you could be arrested," a resident surnamed Zou said.

While hot metal sparks fizzed under the full moon, others in China set off fireworks and ate sweet dumplings to mark the festival.

Agence France-Presse


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Wallace Osborn Ewers of Louisa

Wallace Osborn Ewers, 76, of Louisa, Ky., died Dec. 27, 2011, in Three Rivers Medical Center. He was born Jan. 26, 1935, in Pikeville, Ky., a son of the late Ossie and Minnie Dixon Ewers. He was the owner and operator of Shoneys Restaurant. He served in the U.S. Army and was a member of Louisa United Methodist Church, Odd Fellows, Apperson Lodge No. 195, F.&A.M. Shriners and Masons. He is survived by his wife of 22 years, Brenda Lou Ewers; daughter, Amy Ewers; son, Wally Ewers II, all of Louisa; stepdaughter, Rhonda Fisher of Summersville, S.C.; two stepsons, Duane Thaxton of Charleston and Ronnie Thaxton of Roanoke, Va.; sister, Alice queen of Louisa; and 11 grandchildren. Funeral services were at 11 a.m. Friday, Dec. 30, in Young Funeral Home Chapel with Bill Copley officiating. Burial was in Greenlawn Cemetery, Louisa. Visitation was 5-9 p.m. Thursday in Young Funeral Home, Louisa.


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