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Seahawkers UK podcast & Barnwell’s trade scenarios

October 15th, 2020 | Written by Rob Staton

Firstly, I was invited onto the Seahawkers UK podcast this week. We had a good, long discussion about the Minnesota game and the season so far. Please check it out and have a listen below:

ESPN published an article today by Bill Barnwell running through 13 different trade scenarios before the deadline later this month.

I thought it was interesting for a couple of reasons. Firstly, the Seahawks are included in one of Barnwell’s proposals. Secondly, it gives us an idea of who might be available.

It’s pretty clear the Seahawks could use someone to rush off the edge, provide some wins 1v1 and try to increase their ugly 3.6% sack rate.

Barnwell mentions something we’ve been talking about for a few weeks. Many teams face massive cap problems in 2021. We could see some big names cut or dealt this year as a consequence. However, it’s still difficult to project who might be available. Especially with the teams in the biggest trouble — New Orleans and Philadelphia — both seeing a reasonable pathway to the playoffs.

The two defensive ends listed are Takk McKinley (who Barnwell has going to Seattle) and Ryan Kerrigan (who goes to the 49ers).

Let’s start with Seattle’s deal:

Seattle Seahawks get: C Alex Mack, DE Takkarist McKinley (from Falcons)
Atlanta Falcons get: C B.J. Finney, 2021 sixth-round pick (from Seahawks), 2021 seventh-round pick (from Ravens)
Baltimore Ravens get: TE Jacob Hollister

Always good to mix a three-team trade into the picture. The 0-5 Falcons are out of the playoff picture, and while they’re not going to rebuild, I don’t think either Mack or McKinley figure into their future. Mack is 34 and in the final year of a five-year, $45 million deal, while McKinley is in the last year of his rookie deal after having his fifth-year option declined. The cap-strapped Falcons will likely be moving on from both Mack and McKinley after the season, giving them some motivation to make a move now.

The Seahawks, on the other hand, are candidates for the top spot in the NFC after starting 5-0. Ethan Pocic has impressed at center after an inconsistent start to his career, but Mack would give the Seahawks a top-tier pivot as they try to win a Super Bowl. Pocic would move back into a utility lineman role, and the Seahawks would move on from Finney, who didn’t impress in camp after signing as a free agent and hasn’t played an offensive snap so far this season. Finney would be a low-cost option for the Falcons at center in 2020.

Seattle badly needs bodies along the defensive line; McKinley has struggled with a groin injury this season, but he racked up a sack and six knockdowns of Russell Wilson during the opening-week loss to these very Seahawks. We’re not likely to see a star edge rusher come available at the trade deadline, so the Seahawks will probably look to add multiple players up front and try to win with depth.

For the Seahawks, moving on from Hollister is more about cap space than anything else, given that the 2019 contributor has played just 48 offensive snaps this season and has a cap hold of $3.3 million. The Ravens have disappointed a bit on offense this season, and while trading away Hayden Hurst probably wasn’t the difference between what we’ve seen in 2020 and what we saw in 2019, they are down to two tight ends in Mark Andrews and Nick Boyle. Hollister would fill the Hurst role from a year ago and give Baltimore some insurance if Andrews gets banged up in an expanded role. Baltimore would need to free up some short-term cap space to get the deal done.

Obviously a three-way trade is pretty unlikely in the NFL but the purpose of Barnwell’s piece isn’t to predict the future it’s to propose some interesting talking points. There is a thought process that makes sense within this deal.

For starters, the Seahawks would be best to write-off the B.J. Finney signing. It hasn’t worked and he’s been a fairly expensive flop. He’s not even getting snaps at backup guard. It seems fairly inevitable he’ll be cut at the end of the season anyway to save $3.5m so they might as well make that $4.5m and eat his salary for 2020.

However, that only works if your depth is bolstered at center. Alex Mack has been a blog favourite ever since the 2009 draft. He’s still one of the top centers in the league. The problem is he’s still due about $6m in salary for this season. It’d also be harsh on Ethan Pocic to shove him out of the line-up given the way he’s played so far. I suppose the question is — how much is it worth to have Mack/Pocic as your center depth instead of Pocic/Finney? At the moment things are fine but a Pocic injury could cause problems.

Jacob Hollister has been a big talking point for many months. The Seahawks clearly value him and gave him a second round tender worth $3.25m for this season. I’m not sure anyone would’ve pushed to sign him on the original round tender which would’ve saved Seattle $1.1m but they seemingly didn’t want to take that chance.

Aside from scoring a touchdown and a two-point conversion against Dallas — he’s been anonymous. The Seahawks haven’t done a particularly good job getting their tight ends involved which is a big surprise given the massive outlay on the position.

The Seahawks are over a quarter of the season in now and 48 snaps for his sizeable salary is just not making best use of your cap. Clearly Seattle is cautious of being caught out at the position (as they were last season) and maybe Hollister will show his worth in future weeks?

Although it’s a creative idea from Barnwell, the most likely aspect of the deal might simply be McKinley to the Seahawks.

The Falcons insist they won’t blow things up and will let a new GM decide who stays and goes. However, they face a $37.5m black hole for the cap next year and need to make savings. Any cost cutting done now will help.

Atlanta’s new regime deserves the chance to decide on the future of Matt Ryan, Julio Jones and Grady Jarrett. Other players who are set to be free agents anyway — such as McKinley and Keanu Neal — could be traded for draft compensation they otherwise might not get.

And let’s be right here — they don’t need to worry too much about weakening the team. They’re 0-5 and fired their coach and GM. The best thing for the Falcons right now is to gain a top-five draft pick in order to make it a really attractive proposition for the new front office.

Barnwell makes a good point — if the Seahawks can’t acquire a top edge rusher, they might have to collect players and roll with it. They started the 2020 season without even a proper rotation. Adding McKinley to go with Jonathan Bullard and presumably Snacks Harrison means greater depth.

McKinley fits a lot of what Seattle likes at the position. He has nearly 35-inch arms and he ran a 1.60 10-yard split. His 40-yard dash was an excellent 4.59. He’s quick and explosive — something they badly lack.

He never put it together in Atlanta. He had 13 sacks in his first two years but only has 4.5 since. Can he come to Seattle and replace the production they were banking on from Bruce Irvin? Perhaps.

A three-team trade might be unrealistic but a straight trade for a day-three pick could be reasonable for a rental. The cost in terms of cap hit is minimal.

I’d also be pushing for the Seahawks to pursue Keanu Neal too — one of my favourite players to cover in the draft over the last 12 years. However, the Falcons wouldn’t save any money from trading him on his fifth year option. Quandre Diggs has not played well so far but I can’t imagine the Seahawks moving on from him. He simply has to play better — although I’m not sure all the shifting between blitzing/not blitzing has done much for players like Diggs.

The other defensive end Barnwell suggests could be moved is Ryan Kerrigan, who he has going to San Francisco in exchange for Dante Pettis. Given that Pettis has practically no value currently, this would be another deal the Seahawks could and should pursue.

After registering two sacks in week one, Kerrigan has been very quiet since. However, he has a proven ability to get after the quarterback and rush the edge. That is what the Seahawks need right now — and he’s much more proven than McKinley. You know what you’re going to get. He’d also be a lot more expensive and the Seahawks would need to create some space to bring him in. Perhaps they could send a couple of players Washington’s way?

There seems to be some growing momentum around the trade deadline this year. In previous seasons there’s been an increase in activity. We’re seeing big trades completed mid-season. We’ve seen surprise trades. With such an uncertain economic future for the NFL in 2021, things could get pretty interesting in the next 7-10 days.

The Seahawks, surely, have to be active. They’ve never gone quietly into the night. The cost of the Jamal Adams trade has hampered their ability to make further deals but now isn’t the time to be conservative. Not at 5-0 with a big opportunity to finally launch a serious Super Bowl run.

They created the need to be aggressive with a confusing off-season where they failed to address the D-line properly. As a consequence the defense is struggling. The deadline is coming and it’ll be the last possible opportunity to make an upgrade.

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151 Responses to “Seahawkers UK podcast & Barnwell’s trade scenarios”

  1. Volume12 says:

    If they could fit Mack in, cap wise, I’d think you gotta pull the trigger. This is where I wish the NFL was more like the NBA. Get Takk, flip Mack for some assets.

  2. CaptainJack says:

    Takk makes too much sense. Moving Hollister would be great considering they reportedly like what they have in Sullivan. Anything to get Finney out of town would be fantastic.

    All these ideas sound good, I just worry the front office doesn’t see the pass rush as much of a problem, like we do.

  3. Rob Staton says:

    FYI — There won’t be any more PFF grade articles on the blog. They sent me an email today saying we’re not allowed to post the data.

    So no more articles discussing PFF. Shame.

  4. L80 says:

    I’m not advocating or anything just reporting that Marsh was cut today by Jax.

    • TomLPDX says:

      Hey, he’s a warm body that can fill in the rotation, seeing that we don’t really have a rotation…just sayin’

      • Chris Alexander says:

        And he has some familiarity with the system. Could double up and also poach Jabaal Sheard off the Jaguars’ practice squad. I mean, they’re supposed to be tanking for the #1 pick, right? We’d be doing them a favor.

      • BobbyK says:

        No. He’s terrible. I guess that means he’d fit right in, but I don’t want someone to fit in. Although McKinley isn’t a stud and Kerrigan isn’t as young as he used to be… at least those to guys would actually be good for the Seahawks.

  5. cha says:

    It hasn’t worked and it’s been a fairly expensive flop. He’s not even getting snaps at backup guard.

    I imagine that has as much to do with Finney being the only backup center active as it does with his play.

    Look what you made me do, Rob. I’m defending BJ Finney.

    I’ll leave now.

    • CaptainJack says:

      A scenario exists where Pocic goes out late in the season with an injury and Finney leads the oline to a Super Bowl victory.

      • Volume12 says:

        Man, don’t put that out into the universe.

      • Volume12 says:

        NM, I thought u said ‘cost us a SB.’

      • Sea Mode says:

        They’d probably just bring back Joey Hunt…

      • cha says:

        That’s like 1985A where Biff Tannen is married to Marty’s mom.

      • Mike says:

        Im glad Pocic has stepped up and is outplaying expectations. We needed that. But injuries to the line crippled us last year in the playoffs. We cant afford a repeat, and center is the biggest liability other than if duane brown goes down.

        Id take that trade. Mack could always be the backup for a few weeks to learn the offense, and in wouldn’t even be mad. Better to make sure he gels well and knows the system before he would take over. Also lights a fire under pocic to keep growing his game.

        But dropping from pocic to finney would be devastating.

        • Chris Alexander says:

          Hunt and Britt are both still available. If Seattle were able to move on from Finney, I’d say do it. Roll the dice, keep Kyle Fuller active on game days, and keep Britt and/or Hunt on speed dial.

          That said, I wouldn’t be too torn up if they traded for Mack (and if Finney was part of that deal).

  6. Ukhawk says:

    Rob. When I previously brought up Takk as a target, you argued pretty hard that it wouldn’t happen. Have u changed your mind?? I’d still love to see it happen.

  7. Chris says:

    Do you think Seattle and Dallas could do a little trade dance? With Dak out for the season and Dallas not pulling the trigger with a contract with him this last off season, I wouldn’t be surprised if Dallas tries the tank for Trevor Lawrence or even Justin Fields. I know Dalton was decent in Cincy but he took a backup job for a reason.

    Dallas’s defense is awful and was curious if you thought about trading Barton and Hill for Aldon Smith? Dallas’s Linebackers keep getting hurt and their secondary is pretty light too. I don’t know anything about Smith but he sure seems to be lighting it up this year.

    • Rob Staton says:

      Jerry won’t tank and I’m pretty sure he intends to keep Dak for the long term.

      • Chris Alexander says:

        Seconded. Pretty sure Jerry not-so-secretly despises any team that deliberately loses. And Dak is his guy. 4-6 months recovery time for the ankle injury isn’t bad – especially as bad as it looked. Dak will still be starting there a decade from now if Jerry has his way.

        Would NOT MIND seeing Aldon Smith in a Seahawks uniform though. If nothing else, it would mean he couldn’t sack Russ in the playoffs.

      • Ryan says:

        Not to mention they’re in a division where 6-10 might win it and they have one of the top 3 backup QB situations in the league. They aren’t tanking.

  8. Rob Staton says:

    Nothing sums up Seahawks fans in 2020 like a few days pissing and moaning about Dan Hanzus putting Seattle at #6 in his power rankings — a perfectly acceptable ranking.

    • Uncle Bob says:

      Amen. His reasoning that the defense scares him is sound. 6ish seems reasonable to me as well.

      • Whit21 says:

        I think all of the NFC west hasn’t played quality opponents yet. NE is always pretty good.. but the rams have gotten to play the Giants and Jets, and really didn’t blow away the Giants like most people thought they would have. 6th ranked means nothing right now, anyway.. None of the rankings mean anything. It matters who wins and loses in the post season.

        • Chris Alexander says:

          The Rams didn’t play the Jets (yet). Their 4 wins are against the NFC Least teams – Washington, Dallas, NYG, and Philly. Their loss was to the Bills.

    • I’m surprised were ranked number 6. We are like the Packer 5 years ago. We have a great quarterback but no defense. We will start losing these games we are winning when the weather gets cold if we don’t get someone who can get after the QB, and if we don’t find some way to stop the run. We are pretenders until the defense gets something or our players start over achieving.

  9. Aaron says:

    Five or six seems fair to me given their clear lack to talent and production on defense. I think Cowherd had them around there too in his weekly Herd Hierarchy. They can’t go higher than four imo until they do whatever it takes to bring in more defensive help.

    • Rob Staton says:

      It’s disappointing how whiney a section of the fan base has become.

      ‘How dare you say the Seahawks are only the sixth best team in the world’

      • TomLPDX says:

        I actually give more credence to those that rank the Seahawks in a more balanced way. Offensively they are #1 but defensively…#32. Fortunately our ST unit is doing well and probably top 5 and that is important as well. I actually think the Packers should be higher than us and we don’t know enough about the Rams to say they aren’t a better balanced team either. BTW, I’m a realist diehard fan!

        • Chris Alexander says:

          They’re really only #32 on defense in yards – both passing yards and total yards. In most other defensive categories they’re in the 16-26 range. Still not “good” but certainly not last.

      • 12th chuck says:

        I wont mention any sites, but they have seahawks as number one ranking. There is no way, no how they are that good, and I thought it might and should tarnish their reputation a bit.

        • Chris Alexander says:

          That unnamed site, and others like it, have the tendency of doing their regular season rankings based on their preseason rankings – i.e. if they think KC is going to be #1 then they were going to be #1 even if their starting QB had opted out due to COVID. Add to that their historical reluctance to leapfrog teams over other teams that haven’t yet lost and you end up with Seattle at #1 because they’re 5-0 and the teams that were between them and the #1 spot to start the season have all lost – some of them 3 times (*cough* San Francisco *cough*).

          At least they got the “Biggest Weakness” right – The defense.

          Personally, I think Seattle would/should rank between 4 and 7 in most “objective” polls.

  10. John seahawk says:

    Kerrigan or McKinley? I’ll go with the Dion Sanders answer, both. No idea how that could happen. But I subscribe to the theory that what is between us and a legit shot at a superbowl this year, is the secondary pieces we already have coming together and ability to rush the passer.

    • Scot04 says:

      I’m sure many of us would like to see both added. Chances of both happening about 0. I hate to say it, but I don’t see them adding a guy like Kerrigan at all. I hope they prove me wrong.

      • Sean-O says:

        I think Kerrigan makes sense (veteran not in the plans for the future, last year of his deal) but the way the NFC East is going, WFT might be buyers at the deadline. 8-8 might get it done. I think benching Haskins & going with Allen, a guy who know Rivera’s system, alludes to that.

      • John seahawk says:

        You are probably right, it is just so rare that you have a team that on both offense and special teams screams “WE CAN WIN A SUPERBOWL NOW!!!” and on defense at linebacker you can see Bobby, KJ and a first round pick being capable. You can imagine Adams, Griffin, Dunbar and Diggs doing it. But I can’t see it with the line we have, to many rotational guys being asked for more than they have to give. If Pete Carrol can win a super bowl with this group it will be his defensive masterpiece.

        • Rob Staton says:

          “If Pete Carrol can win a super bowl with this group it will be his defensive masterpiece.”

          If the Seahawks win a Super Bowl with this group, it’ll be because Wilson pulled off a miracle.

  11. Spectator says:

    Awesome podcast Rob. Such fun to listen to while in car.

    Quick question, I recently saw reports people are inquiring about quinnen williams form jets. Any thought that we might be one of those inquiring? They owe us for the deal we gave for Adams, and maybe they want the rest of our draft picks lol

    • Rob Staton says:

      I suspect the Jets would expect at least a second round pick. Not sure I’d do it for a player who has been inconsistent and nothing like what he was at Alabama. I’d be more inclined to take the risk if he was an EDGE.

      • Spectator says:

        Thank you for the response, Rob. I was thinking that he would be worth a 2nd initially, but you are right.

  12. charlietheunicorn says:

    DE Takkarist McKinley

    Here is the major reason why he would not be coming to Seattle….the dude has been injured multiple games now, groin strain, which can knock a guy out for weeks or months if not managed properly. Would you sacrifice some cap space for a guy who is damaged goods? Ultimately, just to dump some sunken cost on the team cap already and compound that with less resources later?

    At 6’2″ 250, where would he fit? He is smaller than a traditional 3 down DE or is he more a pass rushing specialist in the Seattle scheme?

    • 12th chuck says:

      unfortunately, I don’t think pc/js consider being injury prone high enough on their value chart evaluating players. The fact he has an groin injury now should be a consideration

    • Steve Nelsen says:

      McKinley’s 10-yard split is one of the key measurements Rob has identified that Seattle seems to value in their LEO prospects. So, he would fit in a rotation at that spot with Benson Mayowa. He would seem to be a reasonable gamble for a Day 3 pick.

      Kerrigan is a bit more of a risk-reward proposition given his past production, salary and current production.

  13. Nathan says:

    I don’t know enough to speak about nearly anything, but I will talk a bit anyways lol. I really hope JS makes a legit move to find us some pass rush. Kerrigan is definitely the #1 name I have heard about and have been paying attention to. But I’m because of the cap space situation many teams will be in, deals will abound. Here’s hoping we get someone good who can add some spark to our rush, allowing our other rushers to play less snaps and get less attention.

    And our trade compensation? Finney and Hollister really do come to mind. My issue with trading Finney would be if Pocic got hurt later in the season or even in the playoffs, Finney should be ready to step in and quite possibly be a slight upgrade in play quality. However, if PCJS are good with say signing Britt to be our backup C and trading Finney, I don’t believe I’d hate that move. If I remember correctly we shouldn’t bet on Kyle Fuller (C/G) being a quality C who can take over if Pocic got hurt.

    Trading away Hollister makes sense given his price. I agree he hasn’t lived up to his price and is a small use weapon but we use him pretty uniquely and to lose that would sorta suck. But I’m very open to trading both. We’re supposedly deep at TE, with Olsen, Greg, Willson and hopefully Parkinson is ready to go when he can get off NFI (week 9?).

    • Robbie says:

      Keep in mind Britt is still available as well.

      • Steve Nelsen says:

        Yes. PRt of what set Finney behind was trying to learn the line calls in a new scheme during an on-line training camp. If Britt is healthy, he would be plug and play.

      • Nathan says:

        Exactly, I mentioned him. He’s likely an average C but he knows Russ, the offense and as a backup or starter (if Pocic got hurt and Fuller isn’t good enough to start) I think we’d all be accepting of that.

        I’d rather have a good pass rusher than a late round pick and Finney on the roster. Find pass rush please John.

  14. Nathan says:

    I look at our defense and I really think we are a #1 pass rusher and staying healthy away from going from bad to pretty good. I think about our guys;

    Corners: Dunbar who’s look better last we saw him and same with Quill. Ugo has looked good vs the run and pass which is fantastic news after losing Blair.

    Safeties: Diggs I suspect has been goodish and has the potential to be much better, especially once he gets Adams back. Adams is Adams. And Neal has really show up, earning Nickel snaps when Adams gets back.

    Linebackers: KJ is dope. Bobby is dope. Cody is a backup but let’s get Brooks back. And let’s keep using Quem.

    DL: So far it seems like everyone is doing what you should expect of them (in a good way). The only one with a higher ceiling than he is playing is Reed, but he is playing well. So if you add a DE1 along with getting Green back and hopefully Taylor at some point you’ve got a rotation. You’ve got the guys playing now playing less snaps per game. You’ve also got them playing the roles they should be (like Mayowa being a DE2) and that helping them because opposing teams will need to focus their pass pro on our new DE1, resulting in less attention (additional blockers, double teams, etc) being put on our other rushers. That should allow them to make more of an impact.

    I really think a low-key huge piece on our def is Dunbar. He’s gotta stay healthy. Flowers has been flaming trash that opposing offenses pick on once he comes in and don’t stop because he gives up everything.

  15. CaptainJack says:

    A 6th in the league ranking is fine, and even generous considering our strength of schedule and historically bad defensive stats. A ranking shouldn’t be only based off of record, especially in football, but on how confident you feel that team would beat the teams ranked below it. Right now, I wouldn’t want to watch a seahawks game vs the chiefs, titans, packers, ravens, or even steelers. I just wouldn’t. Not after needing an improbable comeback drive to put away the lowly 1-4 vikings. We need some dominant or at least comfortable wins to build up confidence. The cardinals are a good team but they’re in no means great, they turn over the ball on offense and they’re shaky on third down. They just lost Candler Jones and behind him there’s not much generating a pass-rush in Arizona. This is a team the Seahawks have the capability to soundly defeat. So don’t mess around, strike early and often. Put them away. Create turnovers on defense and make third down stops. Gain that respect and confidence.

  16. Aaron says:

    Bell to the Chiefs per Schefter

    They can have his ego and overpriced production. I’m glad the Bell to Seattle talk is over.

    • TomLPDX says:

      Is it me or does this seem like overkill for offensive players on the Chiefs? Only one guy gets to touch it at a time.

      • Rusty says:

        They’re not particularly great/deep at RB though. Well … weren’t

      • CaptainJack says:

        They have Clyde Edwards-Helaire, who is awesome and averaging 103 total yards/ game, but they could use more depth at running back.

      • Troy says:

        If you are Mahomes and EVER complain about lack of weapons you would be out of your god damn mind. Got to appreciate how well they surround and support Mahomes with talent/weapons.

        • Chase says:

          Is it just me or are we a frank clark away from being the chiefs?

        • Big Mike says:

          Chiefs actually aren’t real deep at RB. They’ve got Clyde E-H and Darrell Williams and that’s about it. Damian Williams (last year’s #1 back) opted out this season.

          • Volume12 says:

            Agreed. CEH is good, might even end up being great. They needed another RB though. Think it’s a great fit w/ Andy Reid’s offense.

      • Chris Alexander says:

        Yeah … scary to think about the Chiefs adding another weapon but I put the over/under on Bell bitching about his snap count and touches at 6 games.

        Seattle did well to avoid that headache.

    • Steve Nelsen says:

      I was totally wrong about Le’Veon. I thought there was no way any team would pay him more than he was getting from the Jets and no way he’d play for free. If he has ANYTHING left in the tank, KC will find a way to get it out of him.

  17. GoHawksDani says:

    How about R2+Hollister for Kerrigan and R4 AND
    R5 for Tak?
    Boost inside and outside?
    That would be good times and show that Schneider didn’t lose his mojo.
    I doubt Sweat is available but wow just watched the Rams game and that man is awesome.
    Even without a chance to win he run down Akers for a tackle and hassled all game. I’d happily give up like R2+Hollister for him. Even some R5-R6 to top it off

  18. Troy says:

    I don’t see the Mack deal as making any sense. Pocic is finally looking good (after we put him back at his natural spot), and it wouldn’t make sense to bring on 6 mil for a back up center, OR switch starting centers midway through the season.

    For center depth, we have both Joey Hunt and Justin Britt on the ghost roster (I believe).

    I would love us to get ANY good DE who can rush the passer. If we can give up a 5th or 6th rd pick and get a guy who can give us 6-8 sacks the rest of the way, and put consistent pressure on the QB for the rest of the year I would take that in a heart beat, even if its a one year rental.

    • Troy says:

      I agree with you Rob that we should try and get rid of Finney if possible that was a terrible signing and the sooner they move on the better.

    • GoHawksDani says:

      You won’t get a guy after 1/3 of the season is done for an R2 or later that will bring you around 7 sacks. At least I doubt it. That would mean that he would’ve been able to get 10+ sacks for the full year. Maybe some miracle can happen, but I’d think more in the 4-5 sacks for 10-11 games range

      • Rob Staton says:

        Well it depends how often they play.

        There are 11 games left. Six or seven sacks in 11 games isn’t out of the question if the player is good enough.

  19. AlphaDK says:

    Is Takkarist even an improvement to Mayowa? when I compare their production, I do not see McKinley as a superior player. Haven’t broken down any tape.

    Might be nice to have Mack as a backup and replacement starter, but if we trade BJ Finney away, we have zero centers on the roster for 2021. Maybe the BJ signing is a disaster, but it seems premature to accept that as fact.

  20. BruceN says:

    Kerrigan would be a better trade for both teams. He’s still capable to be a productive edge rusher, an older player who is not in the main rotation and an expensive player on a last year contract. So we get a player we need and Washington can move an expensive player who is not in their future plans and get cap relief plus draft picks. But they are only one game out of the top of the NFC Least division. The last part was more of a sarcasm.

    • Chris Alexander says:

      With Dak out for the season and Dallas’s defense playing as badly as it has, I’d actually put money on Washington finishing ahead of them in the standings. Not that finishing first in the NFC Least means anything other than hosting a wild card game and then watching the rest of the playoffs on TV. Still, that might be enough to convince the team to hang onto their guys at the deadline.

  21. Ashish says:

    If any trade to happen this week will be ideal. Hope we find a good DE young or vet.

    • Chris Alexander says:

      Agreed. As was pointed out in the ESPN piece about Bell joining KC, players have to go through a 6-day COVID protocol so it basically takes a week to even get them on the practice field.

  22. dcd2 says:

    Had a 3 hour drive today and 2/3 of it sucked. The other hour I thoroughly enjoyed this podcast. Really appreciate that it’s available via the standard mediums (Apple for me). Is there any chance you and Robbie can get your Pod’s onto Apple/Spotify/etc.?

    Tell Stuart and Adam that the ‘prep’ and ‘glamor’ were top notch!

  23. Chris Alexander says:

    Of all the players listed in the Barnwell article, I’d vote for grabbing Kerrigan. He’s pricey – almost $700k per game; he’d count about $6.91M against our cap if we got him after the Arizona game.

    McKinley would be a nice “value” pickup; he would cost us about $110k per game (~$1.1M, depending on when the trade was made).

    Could definitely see JS bringing in 2 or 3 guys at the deadline this season.

    Should be interesting.

    • Chris Alexander says:

      Other players in the Barnwell piece that stand out to me:

      LB Haasan Reddick from Arizona – he’s a former 1st round pick who, by most accounts, hasn’t lived up to his draft status. But he’d provide quality depth for our linebackers and he’s an affordable 1/2-year rental – assuming, of course, that Arizona would trade him to a division rival.

      CB Justin Layne from the Steelers – would love to see him on the field instead of Flowers – and he actually makes a hair LESS than Tre does.

      S Bradley McDougald from the Jets – not that we “need” him per se, but I feel for the guy – through no fault of his own he ended up having to play for the Jets . . . and I like him as a player. C’mon home, Bradley.

  24. Lukas says:

    Maybe I missed it in the comments but what it is your personal opinion on the value of the trades suggested? To me they sound incredible cheap, both the Takk and the Kerrigan deal. I would agree in a second as a Seahawks fan. Do you agree as well of are there some concerns I‘m missing?

    • Rob Staton says:

      I suppose a year ago we might’ve thought a R5 for Quandre Diggs was cheap.

      It’s hard to project value, especially with the financial uncertainty in the league currently.

  25. Trevor says:

    Does anyone else still finding incredible that we are paying the more in cap space for Hollister and Finney than the Falcons are paying for Dante Fowler

    Fowler 2020 Cap $6.6mil
    Quinn $6.1 mil

    Finney $3.5 mil
    Hollister $3.2 mil

    I know neither of those guys is having a career year but they would be enormous upgrades to what we currently have in place of 2 guys who have played about 60 snaps total.

  26. Tree says:

    I know everyone had their own view of the off-season and I am sure everyone got some things right and wrong (I was dead wrong on thinking they should move along from KJ). But in light of the cap going down and the lack of sacks, strong PFF grades and/or even playing from Clowney, Quinn, Fowler and Griffin, would you really want those guys knowing the effect on the cap next year or not having a guy like KJ this year? I think all the finger pointing over Finney is over blown. $3.5 is not a ton of money and we couldn’t go all in on Pocic without having a veteran hedge. That said,
    I am all in on moving him and Hollister now (resign Britt as a backup) and it will be interesting to see if we get a better guy on a better contract by being patient and not overpaying in FA (which usually doesn’t workout). In terms of adding our annual vet DT, I think that we are 5-0 and got the best option out there (plus added Rush in the meantime) that strategy worked out.

    • Jimbo says:

      I think the problem people had was that they seemed to prioritize those backup caliber talents like finney, ahead of the starting caliber talents for the pass rush. If you don’t have enough cash to sign a vet like finney, after securing the vital needs for pass rush, then so be it. Wilson found ways to get it done with Joey freaking Hunt at center. It was the first half gameplan/playcalling that screwed them.

      Start with the stud pass rushers, then anything else like Greg Olsen, Finney, Ogbuehi ect are just luxuries if they can still fit them under the cap.

    • Logan Lynch says:

      My view on Finney is the same as it was with Flynn. The signing made sense at the time and gave them an option. Someone else stepped up, took the job, and ran with it. If you can get value for him and have a backup plan (Fuller, Britt, etc.), go for it.

    • cha says:

      I don’t accept your premise that it was “the Hawks must choose between KJ and a pass rusher”. KJ was never getting cut, and there were plenty of other ways to get a pass rusher on board.

      As for the options and their FPP grades (that’s what I’m calling them now to avoid the internet police) I would LOVE to have a Clowney absorbing double teams and having low sack numbers and fielding complaints from fans that Reed and Mayowa and Adams have more sacks than our highly-paid pass rusher if it means a less putrid defense.

  27. Jimbo says:

    Is Kerrigan better suited for 5T or Leo if the Hawks got him?

    Takkarist McKinley is a Leo, but do you see him as a SLB as well?

  28. clbradley17 says:

    Speaking of numbers, Brady Henderson and ESPN had a variety of good with the O and ST, and the flip side with the D today. Some surprises: “66.7% — Seattle’s pass block win rate
    That’s fifth best. You read that right: The Seahawks — based on ESPN’s metric that uses NFL Next Gen Stats to measure how frequently linemen sustain blocks for 2.5 seconds or longer — have been one of the league’s best pass-blocking teams through five weeks. They were 28th last year at 53.5%.

    They have a league-high 56 points off turnovers this season, turning eight of them into touchdowns. The other two allowed them to kneel out the clock.

    The Seahawks have downed a league-high 15 of Michael Dickson’s 22 punts inside the 20. They also have the most punts downed inside the 10 (eight) and 5 (three).”

    • dcd2 says:

      We haven’t exactly faced a murderer’s row of defenses, but that’s certainly nice to see. I doubt any of the teams we have faced are in the top half of the league for rushing the passer (maybe NE).

      As Rob said on the podcast, the LAR game will be very telling… for a number of reasons, including if we can keep RW clean. That will likely be the best defense we face all year, and they have had our number of late with their OFF vs our DEF as well.

    • Lewis says:

      Most of the times Russ was sacked, he held the ball quite a long time. At least, it seemed that way to me. Personally I’d like to see them using more outlet stuff when teams are taking away the deep ball, as they did in the Vikings game. More TE involvement and passes to RBs like at the start of the season, less dependence on 40 yard bombs

  29. cha says:

    Jamal Adams
    Life will mature you!

    And the Seahawk defense will give you nausea, diarrhea, dry mouth, dizziness, weak spells and uncontrollable falling down.

  30. Volume12 says:

    Is it true Joe Burrows hasn’t completed a pass of 20+ yds?

    Watched some Georgia last night. Azeez Ojulari, who Rob profiled, is absolutely exciting. Love his flexibility & ability to soften edges/angles. Plays hard too.

    Their corners caught my eye. #27 Eric Stokes & #3 Tyson Campbell. Campbell probably has more traits & definitely size, but has yet to put it all together. Stokes plays physical all the way through routes, locates the ball well, has a nice intensity about him, good size & speed. Just a damn good cover corner.

  31. juju says:

    Mentioned this as an option last week…

    “Former Cowboys DE David Irving has been conditionally reinstated by the NFL, per source. He is a free agent and can sign with a team at any time.”

    • Steve Nelsen says:

      He would be a low-cost option. He was an effective pass rusher when he played. 6 teams are interested. How many are in states where recreational marijuana is legal? That might give the Seahawks an edge.

    • charlietheunicorn says:

      He comes with a considerable amount of baggage. He had a DV charge (I believe) and multiple substance abuse issues. He also has 2 or 3 seasons where he picked up an injury and ended up on IR by the end of the year. Nothing freak, just little injuries that finished his season. At 6’7″ 290, he would clog up the middle, but I’m not sure where he is in his headspace.

      • Lewis says:

        He tested positive for marijuana multiple times, a substance they no longer test for. Doesn’t sound like a major issue to me.

    • Chase says:

      Can’t be worse than what we are fielding right now

    • Trevor says:

      Seems like a bonehead and lots of baggage but when he is on that boy is a flat out beast. Worth kicking the tires I think. Look how the Aldon Smith gamble is working out so far.

      • Lewis says:

        His baggage seems pretty minor, honestly. Nor do I think he is a bonehead, given he started a CBD business and a marijuana activism newsletter after he left the league. It is, however, clear he cares more about being able to use cannabis than play football. But if that’s the only issue, I’m not sure that’s a problem.

        I guess the real question is, how much does he care about football. But desperate times call for desperate measures.

        • Big Mike says:

          Sign him, room him with Flash when he gets reinstated. I foresee no issues in that situation.

          I kid, I kid

        • CaptainJack says:

          From the Iowa State Daily

          “Facing various charges stemming from the Veishea riot, ISU defensive tackle David Irving has been dismissed from the ISU football team.

          Irving was photographed carrying a stop sign and seen on video helping take down a light pole during the riot in Campustown in Ames on April 8 and was criminally charged with fifth degree theft, disorderly conduct and criminal mischief in the second degree, a Class ‘D’ felony April 11.

          One day after being suspended indefinitely for a violation of the ISU student-athlete code of conduct policy, ISU coach Paul Rhoads announced April 12 after his team’s spring game that Irving had been dismissed from the team.”

          So he was suspended from college ball for some shenanigans that happened during a protest/riot? Oh, and he “quit” football to advocate for the players ability to smoke weed. Sounds like he’s the perfect fit for seattle.

    • DC says:

      The best part of that potential signing is that we would finally have a ‘true’ Irving on the roster. Folks have been writing about Bruce Irving, on & off, for the better part of a decade.

    • CaptainJack says:

      Sign me up, love Irving’s game.

    • Darnell says:

      I’d be very interested in Irving.

      With Randy Gregory coming back I wonder if Everson Griffen becomes available considering how poorly he has played (not that I would want him on the Hawks with how he’s looked thus far).

  32. jed says:

    Fun podcast … thanks for sharing.

    That Cliff Avril made me miss him on the DL and he would have been a perfect player for this team. Probably because they were on the same team, that story got me thinking about Doug Baldwin. How fun would this year’s offense be with Doug, Tyler, and DK as the top 3 WR?

    • Sea Mode says:

      I too have thought about Doug with Tyler and DK, though I’m equally convinced of Rob’s observation that removing Doug was certainly part of the Russell Wilson explosion we’ve seen these past two seasons.

      • Darnell says:

        Doug was heavily involved (14 tds in 2015) during Russ’s previous explosion. Not sure I see a correlation.

        • Rob Staton says:

          Doug Baldwin also thought he had to hold Wilson to account, constantly offered backhanded compliments and seemed to be very much part of a movement within the locker room that never quite ‘got’ Wilson.

          Since he retired, Wilson has taken control of the team. He’s the unchallenged face of the franchise, the leader. And he’s played his best football.

          • jed says:

            Totally agree Doug in the locker room wouldn’t work and maybe Doug retiring & Wilson’s ascent are related more than just timing. I have no real insight though.

            I was more thinking of what it would look like on field, but maybe that would be difficult for the same reason. I also happened to watch the gif of Doug and Josh Norman recently.

  33. BobbyK says:

    The Giants are 0-5 and Kyler Fackrell only signed a 1-year deal this past off-season. I’m totally up for getting him (I wanted the Hawks to draft him but he didn’t meet their criteria of being a good use of a pick). He has a couple sacks already and a bunch of tackles for a loss. Though he didn’t have sack numbers last year because of the scheme fit with the new DC in Green Bay, he did have 10.5 sacks just two years ago. He’d positively impact the Seahawks.

  34. charlietheunicorn says:

    Next gen stats

    Most Expected Yards Per Carry (2020)

    Cardinals (4.8)
    Eagles (4.8)
    Chiefs (4.7)
    Patriots (4.7)
    Seahawks (4.7)

    I didn’t realize they were so efficient rushing the ball in 2020.

  35. Richard She says:

    Remember how Rob’s been talking about how ambitious and assertive Russell Wilson’s become? You can hear it for yourself here on Bill Simmons’s podcast:

    He talks about wanting to play until he’s 45. He talks about owning 2 hyperbaric chambers and spending roughly a million dollars a year on his body, from PTs to cooks to his own personal masseuse. He talks about taking a bigger role in the leadership of the team and being the face of the franchise. He’s working behind the scenes and the new success of this years offense has Russ’s fingerprints all over it. This new media blitz just highlights how ambitious he is. Russ wants to win titles with an S. And then he wants to own a team, just like Rob’s been saying.

    Couple interesting tidbits:
    1) Russ talks about how competitive the practices were in 2012, with the LoB talking trash and starting fights damn near every day. He says going against that defense in practice prepared him to succeed in any real game.

    2) Russ refers to how deep the team was in 2012-2015. Remember when our 2s and 3s were killing people in preseason? What happened to that? People talk about JS’s misses in R1, but what happened to our depth? We talk a lot on the blog how the Hawks are one good edge rusher away from being a decent D. But happens if you have a Nick Bosa and then you lose him for the year? What happens if Cliff Avril goes down in the super bowl? You can’t just fall apart. I think schematically, you have to build a team that can field a competent D even if a couple key players get hurt, because that always happens.

    3) I can’t help but imagine if we could have had a couple more titles if we’d opened the offense up all the way back in 2012. Look at what Saban’s done at Alabama. The conservative approach that PC took just removed all of our margin for error. When you’re the better team, you want more possessions. Combine a generational QB with an all-time D (Russ + LoB), and one title is just not enough. We could have been Tua + Alabama.

  36. Roger Davis says:

    This Sunday the Rams and 49ers go at it. For us Hawks fans there is a VERY IMPORTANT situation I suggest we should place close attention to.

    Last year the Rams invested 2 First Round picks and a 4th round pick in Jalen Ramsey. They have now signed him to a $105 million dollar contract. Sound a lot like our Jamal Adams situation? Here’s a quote from David Lombardi over at The Athletic: “The Rams rank #1 in net yards allowed per pass attempt, and they’re doing so by deploying Ramsey… – all over the defensive formation.”

    In (M(H)O), it seems to me that our use of Adams has resulted in as much noise and confusion as it has in solid accomplishments. Blitzes being attempted while uncovered receivers are running terrifyingly open way too much.

    It will be interesting to see how the Rams use their wild card multi-millionaire man of all trades so we can compare it to how the Hawks will be using our (soon to be) multi-millionaire man of all trades.

    I tape the Hawk games and then re-watch them a couple of times over the next week, mostly to see how the O and D lines have played. Ill be taping the Rams/49ers and re-watching how they use Ramsey. It will be interesting the following week to see how our use of Adams compares.

    • Lewis says:

      This a direct result of not having someone that can win with speed on the edge. They were trying to cover for that deficiency but blitzing Adams far too much.

      • Roger Davis says:

        Lewis – at this point it doesn’t matter WHY we are doing it, at this point it matters HOW to use a brilliant player in multiple positions, play by play, and how to make it work. If it can work.

        Sunday, we’ve got the Rams with a guy like Jamal – playing “all over the defensive formation”, like Jamal does and I WANT to see how the Rams coaches DO THIS – WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE, does it work, how do the other 10 players on the team react???

        Remember, they also have Aaron Donald doing more or less the same thing on the Dline. How is this all schemed? How is it orchestrated? Is the way forward a defensive back and defensive lineman playing independently of the other 9 players an actual scheme?

        Is chaos the new scheme? Can it be made to work?

        Tune in Sunday to the Rams/49ers – by the games end I’ll know more than I do now! Hopefully, we see something constructive Pete can use going forward. If he future is just to release the Kraken – then let the beast loose!


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We have purchased a large commercial grade copier and are making copies for the schools and people of Ranquitte, Haiti. Our business is located at the school of Renac Jean. Our employees are Richard and Rosales. We are working with them training them to keep good business records and we hope to grow our business to include selling office and school supplies. Eventually we may even be able to use the profit to start giving microloans to those who would like to start businesses of their own.

UPDATE- Our copy machine is currently broken and we are in need of $600 to get it up and running again.

Vetiver Latrines-

18 families now have a latrine (a pit with a concrete slab and cover covering it). Previously these families had no outhouse or place to go to the bathroom and would just use a corner of their yard or field. This is helping with sanitation and increasing their dignity. We would love to provide more families with a latrine if this is on your heart to help with this project, please contact us. This can be done for less than $100 each.


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Dpcumentary MEdia: History, Theory, PracticeWhether you are a professional filmmaker, an educator, or someone curious about the history and practice of documentary, DOCUMENTARY MEDIA: History, Theory, Practice, now out in its second editing from Routledge, will open up your perceptions of documentary and its social functions.

The book grounds production within history, culture, technique, and ethics. Each chapter’s “Into Practice” section serves up three distinct types of activities, fostering:

• Analysis of existing media

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• Production exercises that do not require access to specialized equipment

The book has been adopted as the official text of several undergraduate and graduate documentary studies professors in the United States and Australia.

I hope that reading the book and engaging in its exercises inspires you to become a more active spectator and an innovative maker of documentary media in a digital age where the art, politics, and possibilities of representing reality have never been more diverse and vital.

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Weaver out of Alien Prequel and Ghostbusters 3

Sigourney Weaver has ruled out a return to the Alien film franchise, insisting she’s finished with director Ridley Scott’s sci-fi blockbusters.

Weaver’s iconic character Ellen Ripley died in the third Alien film after battling a horrific space creature in three big-budget epics. She returned for 1997’s Aliens Resurrection – but opted out of two Alien Vs Predator spin-offs.

The actress wishes Scott well but insists it wouldn’t be realistic for her to appear in a planned prequel.

She tells TVSquad.com, “I don’t think that Ripley could appear in an Alien prequel because she doesn’t have any access to the creature until the first Alien. But Ridley (Scott) is producing it and that makes me happy.”

Sigourney Weaver has pulled out of the second Ghostbusters sequel.

The actress was reported to be joining former co-stars Bill Murray and Dan Aykroyd in a spooky new movie, 20 years after Ghostbusters II – but she insists she isn’t part of producers’ plans.

The actress tells TVSquad.com, “I think they’re trying to create something new completely with the Ghostbusters, although I know Bill is in it. I don’t expect to have anything to do with it, although I wish them well.”

Aykroyd has suggested the new film, in which the original Ghostbusters hand over control of their spook-chasing responsibilities to a team of hot young ladies, could start shooting before the end of the year.

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Announcement of the first Conference

Announcement of the first Conference

Call for Papers
Socio-cultural learning of youth in mobile societies (SLYMS, ERASMUS +) Conference
April 9-11, 2019

University of Thessaly, Volos, Greece

Youth on the move: Social inclusion through informal and non-formal learning

The focus of the conference is on social inclusion of disadvantaged mobile young people through informal and non-formal education. Effective education of displaced, disadvantaged, and marginalized young populations should be based on informal and non formal learning models that add to formal education and stand on the values of mutual acceptance and understanding, intercultural sensitivity, solidarity, cooperativeness, and on the right to cultural and linguistic diversity. Exploring the differences as well as the similarities between countries and localities and how young people experience and deal with their own situation, culture, work and education lie at the heart of this conference.

We invite abstracts from experienced as well as young and precariously employed researchers, youth workers, and teachers, concerned with informal and non-formal education, the sociology of youth, and youth studies in general. Although presentations and discussions will mainly revolve around youth mobility and social inclusion through informal and non-formal learning, participants are welcome to discuss theoretical and practical implications of work on precarious youth on the move.

Presentations can be related to the following areas:

  • Youth mobility and transnational mobile transitions.
  • Youth from vulnerable social settings: Young precariat, NEET, Refugees, Migrants.
  • Social Inclusion of young people via informal and non formal learning pathways
  • Youth work and inclusion
  • Socio-cultural Events and youth participation: skills and competences development, empowerment, resilience and inclusion

The papers will be selected according to relevance to the areas of the conference.

The conference will be organised around short presentations (20 min max) with space for open discussion.

The three-day conference itself will be dedicated to paper sessions and round tables.

There will be no conference fee.

The venue is the Lab of Sociology of Education (, which is located in the main campus of the University of Thessaly (UTh) in Volos. The Lab belongs to the Department of Early Childhood Education at the University of Thessaly. UTh, and specifically the Lab of Sociology of Education has a significant expertise on the field of childhood, youth, and education, children and youth’s policy, minorities, intercultural education etc., as well as a vast experience in innovative educational interventions with the participation of young people and children. UTh is one of Greece’s leading Social Sciences and Humanities academic units.

In the organization of the workings of the conference are also involved the other partners of SLYMS: the Pompeu Fabra University (Barcelona, Spain), and more specifically the Centre of Youth, Society and Communication Studies (, and the Network on Youth and Society Studies ( Moreover, ARSIS, a Greek N.G.O., which deals with the support and service of young people from vulnerable social settings. Furthermore, Conversas Associação Internacional (CAI), which involves in Youth, Non- Formal Education, and Adult Education and finally, the Municipality of Thessaloniki through the Department of Education and Sport.

Abstracts must be written in English in no more than 200 words and include 3-5 keywords. Please submit your abstract and full contact details as electronic files no later than the 8th of January 2019. Send the abstract to

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Smash Pages Q&A: Carol Tyler’s ‘Fab4Mania’

The creator of ‘Soldier’s Heart’ discusses her latest graphic novel from Fantagraphics, which looks back at her own experiences with Beatlemania.

Carol Tyler has for many years been one of our great cartoonists. Her book Soldier’s Heart is quite simply one of the great comics of the 21st Century. After spending a decade tracing her family history and examining postwar culture, mental illness and many other issues, Tyler wanted to make something lighter.

Her new book Fab4Mania began more than 50 years ago, when Tyler became a Beatles fan. She was a fanatic, attended their 1965 concert at Comisky Park in Chicago, and in the months leading up to the anniversary of the concert, she crafted a blog about her life as a 13-year-old and life leading up to the concert. In what should be no surprise, she managed to capture that young voice in a truly striking way. We spoke recently about the book, about how she began to make sculpture and thinking like an engineer.

This weekend Tyler is a special guest at the Small Press Expo in Bethesda, and on Friday afternoon she will give a talk about her work at the Library of Congress.

So, The Beatles. When we’ve talked in the past we’ve talked about music and how you think musically. Were you always listening to the radio? Was music always one of your outlets?

My parents always had a radio on. My dad always had some sort of radio in every room of the house and in the car. He said it needed to be on in case a bulletin came in from the authorities. [laughs] At the time I didn’t think too much about it, I just went, okay. It was during the ’50s and that strange era of duck and cover. It was my parents and their world; I just didn’t question it. My parents also loved to dance so there was music and the channel that played Sinatra and all that. They weren’t playing rock, that didn’t exist, they were playing what my mom called “beautiful, good music.” [laughs] My older sister – we shared a room – had a crackly little transistor radio and she loved the radio. She loved Paul Anka and stuff like that. We watched Hit Parade on TV. My parents always had something on.

You grew up surrounded by music, even if it wasn’t the radio as we think of it today.

It was very common in that era to have that access and that connection to the radio. TV was there, but it wasn’t like today. I remember the TV going off at a certain time and then coming back on at a certain hour. It wasn’t broadcasting all the time. We would watch the news, and it was 15 minutes.

The story about the Beatles that gets repeated is about them arriving in the states and performing on Ed Sullivan, and the country goes crazy.

Everybody tuned into Ed Sullivan. It was a variety show on Sunday night, and everybody watched it before going to bed for school the next day. It was phenomenal. Everyone knows the story of the Beatles and their impact and the affect it had. I’ve thought about that, too. What was so intense about it? I’ve pretty much decided that we became a monoculture because of World War II and we were the children of WWII. We were ripe and ready. It was the perfect thing at the perfect time.

Do you want to talk about putting this book together?

When I was in elementary school – I went to Catholic school – the nuns said to make a booklet about anything of value. That for me in earnest began we’d been given these special bic ballpoint pens – these were new – and we wrote in our own handwriting about Vatican II and we made a cover and then we gave it to our parents. The parents needed to know what their tuition was paying for. [laughs] I made a booklet about eighth grade and then a week before seeing the Beatles in concert I made a booklet about the week leading up to it and seeing them. Because by god there wasn’t anything more important in my mind than that event. [laughs] That’s how it came about.

I love that the nuns taught you how to make zines and minicomics. [laughs]

[laughs] Right!?

So you had the booklet, it was the 50th anniversary of the concert, and you decided to start a blog to tell the story.

2014 was the fiftieth anniversary that the Beatles were on Ed Sullivan. I was thinking, I’ve got that booklet and I bet people who were fans would be into it. I started reading the booklet, and what it reads like is a first hand account by a girl who saw them, but I should do some backstory. I started the blog in February of 2015. I was excited because I was thinking about the year before when I saw them on Ed Sullivan so the blog started with a look back. It was the fiftieth anniversary of my becoming a Beatlemaniac. I was trying to put on my 13-year-old girl mind. I took all the material from the booklets – I had an eighth grade one, a summertime scrapbook, various other booklets. I figured out the calendar and I had to work up to the material in August, which is when the concert was. Every couple of days I would post something and I would make illustrations. I did not draw back then like I do today, so the drawings that you see in the book are the older me doing illustrations of back then. The writing, the raw materials were there, so I had to frame it and put things together.

I started it in February. I had just gone through a very terrible patch at age 64 of my mother’ death, my sister’s death, my brother in law’s death. One of the only people from my family of origin still around was my dad. His cancer came back. This is 2015. I’d be with him and then I’d come back home – it was a four drive – and I would sit down at the drawing table. I had just come from taking my dad to the VA and I went back to being 13 in my mind and dad is fine and he’s in the dining room after work. My dad didn’t have cancer here. That was tricky, especially when he passed away two months later.

Was writing about your parents and your sister harder after all that?

They were all alive and safe in the book. I’ve been working with my parents and my family all my life and career so I’ve been used to the mental transport of that. But I’ll tell you what was hard, I was working on the blog and going back and forth to see my dad. I had a blog entry that I had to time between all these trips. Dad passed away and I had to run home to get ready for the funeral so I came home and did a blog posting. It turned out it was when I talk about going to my grandfather’s funeral. So the emotion that I put in that memory of grandpa’s funeral was really my dad’s. Then when I came back from the funeral on a Wednesday somebody at Fantagraphics called and said we need to have art for the Soldier’s Heart cover by Friday. So I came home on a Wednesday and after burying my dad, I sat to write a blog entry, and then draw his picture for the [Soldier’s Heart] cover. It was tough, but I got it done.

I was going to say that one the things that is so notable about the book is how you capture that age.

[laughs] Did you feel it? Did you feel thirteen?

I did. That adolescent craziness. How we thought we knew a lot, but looking back on it, we were complete innocents.

I know! That’s what was so amazing. I had to be really careful because I didn’t want to project any sign of overt maturity. I didn’t want it to feel like a nostalgic trip back. I wanted this book to be like it’s 1965.

It definitely has that immediacy. So how did you go from the blog to the book?

For the blog I was using notebook paper and using my ballpoint pen – what we used at that era in school. The blog was cursive because the booklet – the actual written account of the concert – was done in red ballpoint pen on notebook paper, so I wanted to be consistent. Then I’d post the pages on the blog. When I put the book together it occurred to me that a lot of people don’t read cursive. It’s hard for many many people, especially the young text oriented types with their thumbs going. I hate that they don’t teach cursive anymore. Kids are missing out. They’re going to miss out on the historical record. They’re not going to be able to read their grandparents love letters. It’s a real abrupt hatchet to the past to not know cursive. So I made the choice to print. That’s what I did for the book. I printed entries. I did it so it’s almost one step toward cursive with rounded tails to the letters at times. I modified my printing somewhat. I also taught the lessons of preparation for reading cursive all throughout the text – this is me the teacher – so that when you did get to the actual account which was in cursive, I had prepared you with peppered words and phrases all throughout the book, so hopefully it wasn’t so abrupt.

So the last section of the book, in red ink on notebook paper, is a reproduction of the booklet you made in 1965.

Exactly. I couldn’t just make a copy cause I had written back to back and the ink showed through from the front to the back, so I just wrote it over. It was great because I started thinking about the concert. I read it over and over I was playing all kinds of Beatles songs. I was a nutcase. I was in my 13-year-old mind, and I just banged that out. It was so much fun. [laughs]

You did those pages on notebook paper, but the rest of the book is on your dad’s old stationary.

From their old plumbing business. [laughs] My mom was not going to allow us to buy new stuff. Ever. We had to reuse and reuse. People can relate to this. I had to wear somebody else’s clothes. My sister’s old bathing suits that never fit right and there would be safety pins holding up one side or tied up. We had the plumbing paper. I remember drawing on the backs of their envelopes. I drew pictures inside the margins of catalog supply books. I was always doodling. Because I was reconstructing the backstory [of the booklet] one of my old booklets from that time was written and pasted on that C.W. Tyler paper. I used that with the address and phone number visible, and I wondered if anyone would actually try to go to that address. I went by there and I saw it and I saw my grandparents house and it’s hard to think that there was once a thriving plumbing at this address, which is now a million dollar row house in Chicago.

The book reads differently from your other work. It’s a combination of text and illustration and comics. Why did you decide to work that way?

I spent ten years on Soldier’s Heart. Ten years breaking everything down into panels and moving the action along and doing flashbacks. It is crazy if you think about it to have to juggle all that and tell the story all in pictures. When I ran across the booklet I’d made – which I called “37 Minutes of Madness,” because they were on stage for 37 minutes – that was written. I thought, do I abandon this look? At 13 I was not breaking things down into comics sequences; I was writing. I had to figure out how I would convey the writing. How to manage time. That’s what panels do, they break down time. The time management component was in a sense the dates leading up to the big date, Aug. 20. I really was just talking in a breezy way what happened that day. The voice did not really require that I break everything down in panels. So I didn’t have the tedium of that. And it is tedious. If I had done this and tried to figure out how to break it down into panel sequences it would have taken another five years or whatever.

The other thing about it was I’m in mourning. I lost people and I needed a lift. I’m not saying it was an excuse – I’ll bang this out and it’ll make me happy – but that’s what it did. I banged something out quickly. Which goes with pop. It goes with the flash and quickness of the two and a half minute song. I was 13, and I wasn’t elaborating. I was living in an uncomplicated world and the only drama was whether or not they were going to be No. 1 this week. [laughs]

It was part of capturing that feeling. How you would have written about it back then.

I had to keep today out of it. I had to keep my adult mind and the way I approach work now out of it as much as possible. I was amazed at how simple it was. You know what it is? I was truly happy in this period of time when I found this music. I was in eighth grade. When you’re in eighth grade, you’re top dog. Of course I was powerless. I couldn’t drive a car. I didn’t have transit. I was out there in the middle of nowhere, honestly. A lot of girls at the same time were in the same spot. We were powerless. And here they came to deliver us from boredom. [laughs]

We’re friends on facebook so I wanted to ask about some of the sculptures that you’ve been making recently.

I was going through the estate and it was tough to look at all the items that my parents had accumulated over the years. My sister, too, because her death was completely unexpected. It fell on me. I’ve got two brothers but they just didn’t really want to deal with my parents’ stuff. They had lives. I have a life, but I also have a relationship to stuff. And to their stuff. Maybe it’s a daughters job, but I was just not prepared to toss it all. I spent the summer after dad was gone at their house cleaning it up pretty much by myself. I was making stuff and finding crazy shit that dad had. For me it was some sort of heaven. It’s been like that ever since I had access to this shop. The switch came on. I’ve been finding ways to build, attach, connect. Something happened in my head that made me see things differently. I don’t think it was a stroke. I’m not questioning it, but I entered a new way of perceiving the world. In my 60s, sculpture was triggered. I can’t explain it but I’ve been having this three dimensional sense of things and making sculptures and putting things together. I’m trying to rehab this farmhouse and I need to get to work but I stop to make things. I’m going to need to take one of the barns and turn it into a workshop just for the sculptures that I’ve been making. It’s fun.

I remember last time we spoke you said that you had come to understand that you and your dad had a similar sense of making things and that really you have the mind of a mechanical engineer.

I do. Today it would have been recognized early and nurtured and I probably would have gone to engineering school. About once a week somebody in my family says, I never would have thought of that. I know how to invent stuff and figure things out. My friend down the street Rose had this fan. She passed away and her family was of the same mind, let’s throw all this old junk away, but Rose took care of things. She was my best friend and she was like me in so many ways – or I’m like her. I got a lot of Rose’s stuff, some really cool stuff including this big J.C. Penney window fan from the sixties. The window fans today are dinky and shrunk down. She had one of these serious fans but it had a problem. I liked it because it was so solid and I did not want to let it go. I took it apart and figured out where the fan was hitting a bolt, shaved it down, got it cleaned up, turned it on, and it was perfect. About ten minutes later, small fire. [laughs] The motor burned up. There was just too much mud in the motor and it overheated. I love this fan. I didn’t want to give it up. I thought, okay, I went to the piece of shit Walmart box fan from China and took that apart and the mount for the motor is the same set of screws, the same width. I took the motor off a new fan and put it in the old one and it fit like a glove. It works like a charm. I’m fascinated by stuff like that. I want motors to work. People made things to last back in the day it was a different ethos. Not the disposable culture. I lucked out with the fan. Even if it wasn’t the right size, I would have found a way to get the motor in there. So now I have a beautiful old box fan. There’s no need for this because I have almost a dozen old fans. What I was desperate to do was save something that I loved about Rose’s life on Earth. I still have my sister’s car. I was amazed at how mortified I was at the idea that I wouldn’t be able to have her car.

The fan, the car, I know I have to part with these things. But for a moment this summer I had the fan fixed, I got the car running, and I felt like I pulled something back from the brink. Cause I’m still in mourning. I think this Beatles book has helped a lot with that. It kept me from tipping over into places none of us want to go to. It’s hard when we lose loved ones. I lost so many all at once like a tsunami wave. It’s been terrible. That’s the subject of my next book. I’m preparing myself for that. The Beatles is like dessert before this heavy entree I’ve started on. It includes sculpture and this whole foray into this other thinking coupled with mourning and missing people. That’s my next book. It’s a promise to the people who say the Beatles book is too much fluff. Well, you better enjoy it, because you’re going to have to get out your crying towel for the next book!

You wanted to make something fun.

Yeah! I’m a lot of fun to be with and I enjoy life. [laughs]

Well, you captured adolescence so well.

I don’t know that 13-year-olds are like that anymore. The experiences that they have to deal with and their access to information and the adult burdens they end up having to carry because of that. I mean we had bullying, but it wasn’t like today. I really wanted people to understand that it really was a simpler time.

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How I Got a Fastpass for Rise of the Resistance

Let me start with this. I've been avoiding all video ride throughs, reviews and as many photos as I could about the Rise of the Resistance, so that I could get the full effect of my initial experience.

Last week (Feb 26th), I journeyed over to the Disney Hollywood Studios to partake in the ritual of the Rise of the Resistance lottery.

If you've been following this ride since its opening, you know that it's impossible to ride it without a boarding pass. There is no Fastpass, no standby line and no single rider loopholes. The only way to experience this attraction is to get into the park before park opening and attempt to snag a boarding pass via the My Disney Experience app before they are all gone. Most boarding passes get scooped up in less than a couple minutes... so yeah, it's not easy.

I got the family up early, hopped in the car, and headed out from the Pop Century resort at 6:45am, in the hopes of getting a boarding pass to see what all the hype is about.

We arrived at the Disney Hollywood Studios around 7am and made our way through security and bunched up into the mass of humanity that is the new normal for park opening at the Disney Hollywood Studios.

They began letting guests into the park and we were let into Disney Hollywood Studios well before the 8am opening, so we had plenty of time to get ready for the lottery.

The clock hit 7:59am and there was a nervous tension throughout the entire area of the park where I was. Everyone able bodied party planner was glued to their phones. The announcement could be heard all over DHS and the lottery had begun. I clicked once, and did not get in, clicked back and clicked again... nothing. On my third try, the boarding pass button lit up and I was able to snag one. Boarding Group 95. My daughter jumped for joy and I could hear cheers accompanied by moans throughout the Animation Courtyard area.

I could not bring myself to cheer. The family of four to my left, stood there with their heads down. The father looked defeated and his two kids looked on as he told them that they did not get in. I felt horrible for them. They went through this process, just like we did, and they were left out. I know that this is the process, but there has to be a better way.

We looked around at the mass of people and how long the lines were and we decided to go back to the room for a bit.

As the day wore on, I found myself looking at the "now boarding" groups and trying to predict when we would get the call. My wife searched the internet to see how often group 95 gets on the ride and it looked like we would have a very good shot. I was predicting 4-5pm, and that was fine by me.

We made it back to the park and knocked out our Fastpasses for the day. Slinky Dog, Toy Story Mania and Star Tours were a great way to pass the time. We tried to go about our business, but I'd be lying if I told you that I was not obsessed about which group was "now boarding."

It was now 4pm and I was getting a little frustrated. The boarding groups were not loading as quickly as we had seen in the research that we'd done online. Did the ride break down? What is going on?

I did a little research on social media and found out that something bizarre had happened that morning when we were all vying for boarding passes. Apparently a glitch had occurred in the system, and people who were not in the park were able to to get boarding passes. Two people from thousands of miles away from Disney bragged online about how they scooped up their boarding groups. Both of them had better spots than us and they were miles away! WOAH!

As we exited Frozen Sing-Along Celebration, I turned to my wife and said, I don't think we're getting the call. The boarding groups had stalled at 75. It was now 5pm and the park closes at 8pm. Feeling deflated, we decided to go on Star Tours. I started to now know how that father felt this morning.

As we exited Star Tours, it was about 6pm and my phone buzzed. I looked down and "OMG", it was an update from the My Disney Experience app. It read something to the effect that they were sorry that they would not be able to honor our boarding pass, but that they would be giving us a Multi-Experience Fastpass for any ride in the Walt Disney Parks for the next day, and that also included Rise of the Resistance.

There was no further explanation as to why we received this, but my guess is that it had to do with the glitch that morning, which gave an influx of non-visitors boarding passes. I was ecstatic and mostly relieved. It was not all for naught.

The next day, we headed back to the Disney Hollywood Studios and were one of the first to experience Rise of the Resistance that day. I know my experience of getting the Rise of the Resistance Fastpass is rare, but that's how it happened for my family.

After experiencing Rise of the Resistance, I would say that it's most certainly worth the early morning headache and possible heartache that is sure to come to many who "lose" in the lottery. The ride is spectacular and something that is head and shoulders above any other attraction on this planet. That being said, I hope that Disney can figure out a better system for regular everyday families that show up hoping to experience this attraction.

Let me know your thoughts or what you think that Disney could do to make this a more "fair" process?

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