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Sensitive Systems Formula Adult Premium Dog Food

Rated 4.8 out of 5 by 83reviewers.
Rated 5 out of 5 by great food Rosco our bloodhound/lab mix that we rescued has done real well with this food. I started feeding him a more expensive food, but wanted to find something more economical. At 4 cups a day, it gets expensive! After trying a few other less expensive brands (which worked well Brittany but not Rosco), I found this food and it has been a great match. He is very healthy, loves it and I get a lot of compliments on how soft his coat is. The only downside like someone else mentioned is the dog/fish breath.....lol! It can be a little difficult to find in major retailers (Walmart, Meijers), but fortunately there are a lot of pet stores around that I can purchase it from. I also agree that it would be nice to find some coupons for this food, it sounds like it has a prety dedicated customer base. May 2, 2013
Rated 5 out of 5 by FINALLY a food that ALL of our Huskies can enjoy! After spending hundreds of dollars trying to figure out WHY our huskies had diarrhea (we thought worms, parasite, etc) we finally learned it was their dog food :/ So we started with a bag of some expensive dog food and kept trying different brands until we found Purina One Sensitive Systems (we should have known to start with them in the first place). Now ALL four of our huskies can eat the same foods without an upset stomach or diarrhea afterwards. We've never seen an advertisement for JUST the sensitive systems and I think it would def. benefit Purina to do so... had we seen a commercial for it, we probably would have tried it first :) Great Product and I DEF recommend it! July 3, 2013
Rated 5 out of 5 by Best food yet! I have 3 dogs total, my two that have issues are American Bullies. My female is allergic to nearly everything and has always had patchy fur and chews herself raw. We tried high end expensive brand dog foods, prescription dog foods, everything and nothing helped. We then were recommended to try this by our vet and within just 2 weeks saw a HUGE difference. My male also suffered from loose stools, not ever fully formed and many tests were done to make sure no parasites or infections were causing it, once we started feeding this food that resolved fast too. I LOVE this food and will never get anything else again. I would highly recommend this food to anyone. October 27, 2014
Rated 5 out of 5 by Stomach issues resolved with Sensitive System Our 2-1/2 year old German Shorthair Pointer came to us from the Animal Humane Society at 11 months. His diet at the shelter, as well for his first six months with us, was Chicken and Rice Purina One. After several bouts with upset tummy issues, we switched him to the Sensitive System line and Tahoe has since been bout free. There were no issues switching from the Chicken and Rice to the Salmon - Tahoe eat it readily. We recently gave him a sample of the new One beyOnd line with no side affects and will probably switch over to that when the existing food runs out. Like the idea of natural ingredients in dog food. July 10, 2013
Rated 5 out of 5 by My English Springer and Cocker Spaniel both love this food!!! It has been hard finding a food that both of my babies like and agrees with their tummies. This one fits the ticket. The Cocker has always had issues with what she eats and has had no problems with Purina One. December 16, 2015
Rated 5 out of 5 by Wow! We tried a free bag of food as a skeptic but not we love this food and would recommend it to anyone. One of our dogs is a diabetic and the other dog we were told that he would never walk again. The diabetic dog has maintained his numbers and after taking the other to a chiropractor and using this food, he acts like a puppy again. Both dogs are 6 years old.Thank you for such a great product! October 23, 2015
Rated 5 out of 5 by Best food yet We have always had bad luck with any dog food that contains chicken. Our dog, Lucky (R.I.P.), was allergic to chicken and would break out in hives. We had a time finding food for her that would not upset her system. Wish Purina ONE Sensitive Systems Salmon would have been around when she was here. We now have two dogs, Jimmy (mixed breed) and Jack (Jack Russell). Jack has sensitive skin and is always scratching, so this food works well for him. Jimmy will eat anything that is put down in front of him, so it is nice not to have to purchase different food. One thing we noticed when they are on Purina ONE Sensitive Systems Salmon they do not have 'fishy butt', which is a real plus! November 21, 2013
Rated 5 out of 5 by IT WORKS I used the SmartBlends Sensitive Skin & Stomach formula, this food works as advertised. There's no hidden secret or agenda, it does what it's advertisement states it will do and that's help a dog's digestive tract and coat health. The only problem with this formula is that the 31lb bags of the Sensitive Skin & Stomach formula are not readily available at most locations in my area, so sometimes it's a chore finding it in the larger bag size. June 13, 2014
Rated 5 out of 5 by No more allergies LOVE this product Shih tzu had horrendous skin/food allergy and on horrible Prednisone and Antibiotics for secondary infections. I tried special much more expensive percribtion diets giving no relief and made of corn.Sensitive systems FISH was recommended to me by my Vet and if I give my dog only this NO other dog treats or people food HIS Problems are COMPLEATLY gone!I do give him frozen green beans and frozen carrot slices.I wish they would make this in can also.Please never stop making this food.Another nice thing they sell it at Kroger and I don't need to run all over town to find it. February 8, 2014
Rated 5 out of 5 by Cost of product We have been buying Purina One Sensitive Systems for years. We have four Jack Russell's who are very picky about what they eat, so I cannot substitute a different brand, they will catch me on that. I buy the 31.1 pound bag.This is the best dog food on the market. I was hoping to find coupons for this brand and can never find any. There are always coupons for Purina dog food everywhere. Is there a reason why you don't offer them on the Purina One ?? April 27, 2013
Rated 5 out of 5 by Sensitive Systems literally a life saver When I adopted my dog Lily, 6 years ago, I learned the hard way that arctic dogs often suffer from digestive issues. She refused to eat, and had become dehydrated. Thankfully, I found Purina One salmon and rice formula. Within days she was feeling better. She loves the taste, and her coat is shiny and beautiful. June 7, 2013
Rated 5 out of 5 by Sensitive Systems calmed my dogs itchy skin My three mini schnauzers had very itchy skin before switching to purina sensitive systems. They previously rubbed and chew parts of their skin raw. Their itching has just about completely stopped since switching foods. We are thrilled with purina sensitive systems and would recommend it. September 26, 2013
Rated 3 out of 5 by High palatibility I was unfortunately not able to keep my dog on this food for long as he had to switch to a prescription diet for allergies. However, I will say that my dog loved the taste of the food. He did get that fishy smelling breath, but that seems to come with the ingredients. I have had the opportunity to tour the Purina Research Center in St. Louis and was impressed. Overall I would probably recommend the food to other dog owners. August 16, 2016
Rated 5 out of 5 by super-sensitive pit mix I have a now 3 year old pit/mix. She has always been underweight. She would get sick if she ate two days in a row and we were constantly testing for worms or other ailments. As a last ditch effort before major testing and possible surgery, I tried a few sensitive formulas and this has been the ONLY one I can feed her every day without sickness!! After 3 years she is gaining weight and I can no longer see her ribs!!! So Happy!!! June 10, 2016
Rated 1 out of 5 by Distasteful for my dogs I purchased the big bag of the Sensitive Systems Salmon. Both of my dogs walked away from their bowls. They have sensitive stomachs but have never been fussy. I have been using Purina products for years and never had a problem with them turning a meal down. After a week, I gave in and threw out the whole bag. They are now on Purina Lamb and rice and love it. May 31, 2016
Rated 5 out of 5 by Excellent food This food is excellent and amazing. My schanauzer had diarrhea will not be controlled with any medication prescribed by the veterinarian. When I gave this meal was improved in only 4 days is wonderful. Loves food and their coats shiny and more beautiful than ever. May 30, 2016
Rated 5 out of 5 by A God send for our dog Our schnauzer, Charlie, had something affecting his skin on his back and inside of his legs that was causing him to lose his hair and have flaky, itchy skin. I saw this product while looking for more food for Charlie. Since he has a sensitive stomach, I thought I'd try it out. He loved the taste and two weeks later, when I took him to the groomers they were astounded that the flakiness was gone, his coat was healthy and shiny, but most astonishing was his hair had grown back. We have recommended this food to friends and family and all have had similar success. Thanks Purina!! Well Done!!!! April 10, 2016
Rated 4 out of 5 by good for the price My Australian Shepherd has a very sensitive stomach. He and my other dog will eat anything I give them, but his stomach gets upset from any high corn content food. Lately there are many new "grain free" dog foods on the market, but they are extremely expensive. I do beleive the "sensitive system by Purina One" is a better product than the "Pro Plan" version, but it is much harder to find and costs more. I don't know the difference between the 2 since they are both from Purina, but I think they like the Purina One better, and the Ausies coat seems thicker and healthier when eating the Pro Plan vrs Purina One. Either way, purina is offering us 2 good options for a decent price compared to the other companies out there.But... since almost everyone sticks with a brand for life once they find one that works, I think we should see more rebates and coupons to help out with high prices these days. October 29, 2013
Rated 5 out of 5 by Quality food my dogs enjoy Before switching my 3 dogs to purina one, they were picky eaters and they had some health issues. My one dog developed acid reflex and needed to be given a Pepcid daily, and the other two dogs had very dry sensitive skin. Since switching their food their coats have been shiny, dandruff free, and not itchy! The other dog hasn't needed her Pepcid daily! Also their pickiness stopped! Thank you purina for making a food that they can enjoy! April 8, 2016
Rated 5 out of 5 by Changed my dogs life So when my dog Mia got older, around a year old, she started getting really bad skin allergies. Not only this, but the food I had been feeding her (pedigree) was not agreeing with her stomach and her stools were the polar opposite from solid. After a couple of accidents in the house I called East Carolina Vet in Greenville NC, and they recommended Purina One for Sensitive Skin and Digestion. After slowly switching over to this brand, I shortly noticed a difference in not only her stools, but her itching was less frequent as well. This product agrees with her and she loves it. She is now a little over 3 and I haven't given her any other brand of dog food since!! February 20, 2016
Rated 5 out of 5 by The ONLY food my 10 year old black lab can eat!! I started feeding my almost 10 year old black lab, Kokanee, Purina One Sensitive System Salmon formula about two years ago.... This all started when she was diagnosed with canine acid reflux disease... She couldn't keep any food down, especially anything with chicken or lamb....so by raising her food dish, and switching to this Purina Sensitive System formula...she's been doing great and hasn't had to take her acid reflux medicine. She is a happy, healthy senior citizen who loves her Salmon food :)I think the only thing that I have to complain about is that there is only one place I can find the food in town.. which means sometimes they run out and I have to buy more than a bag at a time to secure not having to feed her a interim food...I rave about this food- and I'm so happy it's not made from corn, fillers and other things that make her sick. January 14, 2015
Rated 5 out of 5 by only food without some kind of chicken product My staffie has a chicken allergy this food put her back on track. This is the only brand I buy. Affordable and perfect for my dogs. Wish it was available at more retail outlets though. April 2, 2016
Rated 5 out of 5 by Resolved dogs' allergy problems Originally I purchased this product because our Collie was licking his feet raw. That stopped immediately after we changed to this food. Also, our Cockerdoodle had draining eyes. That also has pretty much stopped. Both dogs love the food and really look good on it. I wish that it was easier to find in larger size bags. I am a believer. March 15, 2016
Rated 5 out of 5 by My 3 dogs love it My dogs were not doing so good with other food it was always 1 sometimes 2 throwing up so we tried a lot of different foods and finally this is the one and they love it. March 8, 2016
Rated 5 out of 5 by No more "fish butts" My jack russell ate about anything i put in front of her, no digestive issue, but she's always had problem with gland not emptying when she goes to the bathroom. So once every other week, it would suddenly "leak", very unpleasant, it gets on the carpet on her bed etc... This salmon based purina one sensitive dog food is the ONLY kind, i repeat, the ONLY kind that has solved her problem. Since switching about a year ago, not a single fish butt episode ever!My other dog rottie/lab mix has a sensitive stomach, along with the fish butt issue. With other kinds of dog food, he sometimes throw up the entire content about a hour after he eats it, also problem with diarrhea and fish butt. Again, since switching, no more fish butt, and rarely rarely does his stomach gets upset anymore. Another bonus- he has the most beautiful shiny black coat now! Gets compliments on it all the time.One minor complain- cost is a bit high, wish it is more affordable with a 40 lb bag offered. Since jan 2014, the supply of this dog food has been so low in all my local grocery store and pet supply stores, what is going on? Would love to see more manufacturing coupon on Purina one. February 4, 2014
Rated 5 out of 5 by The search for my best friends food is finally over!! My rescue Pitbull has terrible stomach issues along with multiple allergies, very dry skin and hip/shoulder/joint problems. After 2 adult years on another brand's lamb & rice formula, he became intolerant to it. He was on an expensive vet prescribed diet then I transitioned him to a specific brand that was for sensitive stomachs and expensive. He was allergic to something in the new food so I took him to the vet, a NEW VET. More antibiotics, steroids & medicated bath's.. But the greatest thing happened that day, the vet told me about this dog food! He said he gives it to his dog's & highly recommends it for dogs like mine with stomach/allergy problems. Not vet prescribed, not insanely expensive! I can find it at my local Walmart without difficulty. "Rocky" has not had any problems at all with this food. He loves to eat it, no allergies to it, he digests it well & doesn't have loose doggy poo anymore!! I do still supplement him with additional fish oil and glucosamine and chondroitin as discussed with my new vet, but that's because his other medical conditions are rather severe. We are so happy that our search for a safe & nutritious dog food is over!! Thank you Purina!! September 11, 2014
Rated 5 out of 5 by Recently switched - Extremely Happy! Recently I switched from "Blue" to this product. I was very happy to see that Purina had Salmon, as my two Pit mixes love the Salmon from "Blue". I needed an affordable alternative and did extensive research before switching to Purina Smartblend for Sensitive Systems.Both my dogs have allergies and sensitive stomachs and switching is never a good experience. BUT--THIS FOOD IS UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!! We have noticed their coat shines like never before! Also, they don't pick their head up from their bowls until it's gone and barely can contain themselves when I'm scooping it into their bowls!They have had no complications at all when switching and they seem livelier and their coat is like that of a prized stallion!I HIGHLY recommend this product for the optimum health and happiness of your dogs! September 5, 2013
Rated 4 out of 5 by dog food for sensitive tummy My older small dogs do very well on this food. They digest it well February 7, 2016
Rated 5 out of 5 by My dog has changed I have a beagle who was eating Iams and he was constantly itching. A friend told me to try purina one. He no longer itches and his coat looks awesome. He is a much happier and healthier dog January 26, 2016
Rated 5 out of 5 by Excellent for dogs with sensitive stomachs My 3 year old lab was having issues with her previous food, all sorts of stomach and digestive issues. We switched her to this food and it has made a huge difference. No more getting up in the middle of the night to let her outside, she is acting like a puppy again, full of energy and as playful as ever. I would highly recommend this food to anyone who has a dog that has a sensitive stomach. December 19, 2015
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    In our Sensitive Systems Dog Food, we start with real salmon as our first ingredient plus rice and oat meal. Why? Because a tasty blend with salmon and other ingredients provides nutrition that's easy to digest, nurturing your dog's sensitive side. And a generous addition of Vitamin E and Omega-6 helps him be comfortable in his skin. We asked, Mother Nature answered. It's choosing ingredients that work better together than they ever could on their own that inspired us to call this dry dog food SMARTBLEND.

    Get $3 off* your first bag when you register for the 28-Day Challenge.

    What's A Dual Defense Antioxidant Blend? One That Works Inside & Out.
    It's probably not something your dog thinks about, but his SMARTBLEND is working around the clock. It starts with a dual defense antioxidant blend of Vitamins E & A along with minerals zinc and selenium in a 100% complete diet for your adult dog. Together, they make a healthy difference on the inside by supporting your dog's strong immune system and on the outside by supporting healthy skin and a radiant coat.

    We're inspired by the science in nature, discovering the power of smart ingredients that work together for your dog's whole body health.

    *Good only in U.S.A., A.P.O.'s, F.P.O.'s. Void where taxed, prohibited, and restricted. LIMIT ONE PER INDIVIDUAL, HOUSEHOLD OR E-MAIL ADDRESS. FULL LEGAL COPY

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Growth | April 2012 | By John Morell

Bankruptcy Could Save Your Business

Filing for bankruptcy isn’t always a bad thing. Here’s how to do it right.

Sbarro's emerged from Chapter 11 bankruptcy early this year.
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The term bankruptcy tends to elicit doom-and-gloom thoughts from business owners. But experts say bankruptcy doesn’t have to be a bad thing. In fact, by filing for bankruptcy, operators can shed the weight of their debts and get back on the course toward success.

Just ask Sbarro. The leading Italian quick-serve chain filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy in April 2011, citing high wholesale food costs as the primary reason for its trouble. The company emerged from bankruptcy last November without 70 percent of its previous debt and with an infusion of $35 million from a new ownership group.

James Greco, Sbarro’s new CEO, says the restructuring saved the brand.

“We’re going to remake this into a new, thriving company in the marketplace, and it couldn’t have happened without the bankruptcy filing,” he says.

Of course, bankruptcy doesn’t rescue every brand. Operators who don’t know how to navigate the process appropriately won’t always find sunnier skies on the other side of bankruptcy.

“Business people don’t dream of failing, they dream of succeeding and they consider what it takes to get there,” says Anthony Calamunci, an expert on franchise law with law firm Roetzel & Andress. “That may be why when things do fail, it can get very complicated.”

Along with Sbarro, there have been other well-known restaurant brand names on the court docket the last couple of years, many because they were unable to survive the economic turmoil that set in four years ago. Companies like Friendly’s, Fuddruckers, Real Mex Restaurants Inc., and Perkins & Marie Callender’s Inc. all filed for bankruptcy.

“Restaurants have been hit very hard by the Great Recession because, like many retail businesses, they’ve had to survive a double-whammy,” Calamunci says. “Not only have consumers tightened their spending, but real estate has taken a big hit and that has turned many once-promising balance sheets upside down.”

Although many financial experts see the economy improving, or at least leveling out in 2012, some observers say there’s more upheaval in store for businesses.

“There’s a lot of reorganization out there that needs to be done for many business people, particularly those in the quick-serve industry, to succeed again,” says Dave Spargo, a principal with real estate and restructuring firm Huntley, Mullaney, Spargo & Sullivan.

Spargo says that for restaurants especially, profit margins are so tight there’s little room for flexibility if the business takes another hit. “If the road they’re on has limited traffic because of road repairs or there’s a price spike in a key ingredient, they can get into real financial trouble,” he says.

Because of this, he says, operators should know the bankruptcy options available to them.

The ultimate bankruptcy is a Chapter 7 liquidation, in which any business assets are sold to the highest bidder and the owner walks away from the business. But the bankruptcy path that most businesses try to maneuver is Chapter 11, or reorganization, to try to salvage the operation.

In Chapter 11, the secured creditors—in the case of a quick-serve operator, usually the bank that lent money for equipment and startup costs—and the landlord are paid what they’re owed over time plus the promise that payments going forward will be prompt. Unsecured creditors, like vendors, are generally paid a percentage of what they’re owed over time based on the reorganized company’s ability to repay its debts, which could range from 100 percent to pennies on the dollar.

Spargo worked on the recent restructuring of Round Table Pizza Inc., a California-based pizza concept. Over 10 months the company reorganized its real estate leases, which were dragging it down; preserved its employee ownership; and paid its vendors 100 percent of past due obligations.

However, success stories like Round Table Pizza’s and Sbarro’s are not always common in the restaurant industry. Many concepts are overwhelmed by bankruptcy and fade away.

“If you’re filing a Chapter 11 plan in which you’re paying your food suppliers 10 cents on the dollar for all that you owe them, you’re going to have to consider how they’ll do business with you in the future,” says Scott Dillon, a senior bankruptcy attorney with New York City–based Tully Rinckey PLLC. Dillon has worked with several restaurant franchisees on their bankruptcy cases.

“Odds are you’re going to have to find new suppliers, and they may not be eager to work with you. They may want cash upfront.”

But Spargo says reorganization can help relations with vendors.

“Maybe they are only getting a percentage of the past due, but they know as part of the plan that the day after you’ve filed your reorganization, they’re going to get paid in full so they may not run away from you,” he says.

For franchisees, the franchisor plays a vital role in the bankruptcy process because most franchise agreements state that bankruptcy is a trigger for the company to take back the franchise.

“It’s an example that when you’re having difficulties, you need to be in communication with the company, but when it comes time to file, everyone’s interests are going to diverge,” Calamunci says.

For a franchise to pull out of a bankruptcy successfully, he says, the operation’s key players need to get on the same page. “It’s examining the lease, the economics, and coming up with a plan for the franchisor so they don’t have their management team spending all their time on this one unit,” he says.

Spargo says the lender, the landlord, the franchisor, and the franchisee have to work together in a bankruptcy restructuring, “because a failed franchise leaves an empty storefront for the landlord, a closed location for the company, and doesn’t do anyone any good.”

Each bankruptcy case can differ dramatically based on the calculations of earnings before interest and taxes, rent, and amount leveraged. But Calamunci says operators who do what it takes to see the process through will be rewarded.

I’m working with a franchisee now that has figured out that a change in location will turn the business around,” he says. “It’s a big move, but they’re willing to make that move to save it.”

Sbarro's emerged from Chapter 11 bankruptcy early this year.

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hagel-times-adLast week, the Log Cabin Republicans took out a full-page ad in the New York Times, blasting potential Secretary of Defense nominee Chuck Hagel for being “wrong on gay rights, wrong on Iran, [and] wrong on Israel.”

At about the same time, the LCR sent out a press release announcing current national director R. Clarke Cooper was stepping down and an interim replacement, Gregory T. Angelo, was taking over this month.

As the New Year’s confetti clears, though, questions are being raised about the group’s motivation for the ad, where the funds to pay for it came from, and whether Cooper’s departure was in any way connected.

In the Guardian, columnist Glenn Greenwald posits:

Full-page ads in the NYT are notoriously expensive, particularly for a small, poorly-funded group like LCR; published rates indicate that such an ad can cost well in excess of $100,000, though some discounts are possible with flexible dates (five years ago, the published rate for a black-and-white full-page political ad was $142,000).

Cooper says the Times ad was paid for by donors, not out of LCR’s existing budget, but won’t ‘fess up about who cut the check: “LCR developed the ad first and then found funding by ‘passing the hat’ to a variety of supporters,” he said in a statement to to Daily Beast columnist Andrew Sullivan.

The theory is that pro-Israel interest groups funded the ad, to attack a political enemy with an unrelated accusation. In addition to complaining that “the Jewish lobby intimidates a lot of people,” in Congress, Hagel hasn’t been shy about criticizing Israeli policy.

But Cooper says LCR is concerned about Sen Hagel’s potential nomination “because of the role he would play in  continuing to oversee the implementation of open service of the military.” Haven’t Mitt Rommney and John McCainbeen worse on LGBT issues—and opposed the repeal of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell? And the Log Cabin Republicans went to bat for both of them.

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In the letter to Andrew Sullivan, Cooper admits it’s not just about gay rights:

It is Chuck Hagel’s weak record on preventing nuclear proliferation in Iran, lack of confidence in our ally Israel as well as an aggressive history against the LGBT community that is a negative combination for a Secretary of Defense nominee.

While he may have recently apologized for his anti-gay comments to save his possible nomination, Hagel cannot walk away from his consistent record against economic sanctions to try to change the behavior of the Islamist radical regime in Tehran. To use an US Army colloquial term, he is a “No Go” for the cabinet post.

LCR has a long history of showing support for our ally Israel and questioning those who would be soft on Iran. While it may surprise some to see LCR taking out a major ad in the New York Times, it’s part of a broader communications strategy that LCR and its board have been developing over the last year.”

Okay, here’s another explanation that’s been suggested: As rank-and-file Republicans, the Log Cabinites just want to torpedo anyone President Obama is going to nominate. As one Queerty commenter posited, if Hagel was running for Congress again, “they’d be fine with him.”

But what about Cooper’s sudden departure from the Log Cabin Republicans? He’s held the post for more than two years, so it’s not clear if he was ousted or wanted to explore new opportunities.

Just weeks before the ad came out in the Times, Cooper was praising Hagel to Gay City News:

“I recall working with Senator Chuck Hagel and his staff during the Bush administration and he was certainly not shy about expressing his criticisms. But despite his criticisms, Hagel voted with us most of the time and there was no question he was committed to advancing America’s interests abroad.

As for his nomination to be secretary of defense, it is well worth noting that Senator Hagel is a combat veteran who has hands-on experience in the field. The battlefield is not just theory for him.”

Was Cooper shuffled out for not towing the party line? Did he leave because he was unhappy with the group’s agenda?

Whatever the case, it appears Hagel’s chances of getting a cabinet post have sunk like a stone. Politico’s Mike Allen says Deputy Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter and Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Michele Flournoy are the new leading candidates.

What do you think? Was Hagel a bad choice for Defense all along or were his alleged “sins” overblown for political reasons?

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    • Harley

      It’s funny that LCR call themselves a “gay” organization when gay rights are the furthest from their agenda. Their main concern is passing on the bigotry of the Republican Party. Would women’s suffrage have happened if it had been put to a ballot initiative? Would the emancipation proclamation? Would integration of the military or the ability to marry outside your race or religion? The conservative agenda has ALWAYS been on the wrong side of history and the LCR is a drag to gay rights. We should drop the anchor and let them sink into the bowels of history. They are nothing but an organization being used now by right wing bigots in order to hide who they are in order to spread hatred and bigotry . COWARDS!!!!!!

      Jan 2, 2013 at 6:19 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • curan

      First of all, I will agree that the LCR is capable of incredible moral gymnastics in their support for the Republican party. I am a fiscal conservative myself; I have no debt, and I would like to vote for people who would balance the budget and pay off the debt.

      However, voting for Republicans over the last decade has not produced any fiscal responsibility, and fiscal conservatives now find themselves strangely longing for Clinton. Adding this consistent failure to the unreasonable hatred that evangelical conservatives have for anyone (who, through no fault of their own) is gay, leaves us with a party that deserved to lose.

      Republicans have not always been such purveyors of “moral filth” – this is, after all, the party of emancipation. However, Republicans have not acted in a forward-thinking way on civil rights within my lifetime, and I see no reason to reward their incompetence with political power.

      Jan 2, 2013 at 8:05 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • brent

      @Harley: COWARD You call someone a coward who is out of the closet with both his sexuality and his politics. I used to call that gutsy.Besides they have been right the ballot box approach is working.They were also right to sue to repeal DODT. You could use the word coward to describe Barney Frank, who in elections past has refused to speak out against homophobia in black and latino communities. Now that minorities seem to support gay marriage he is all willing to take credit. COWARD FRANK1 I would also be curious to know if the real reason you hate the log cabins is because they don’t agree with you on econonmics, oil, environment etc.

      Jan 2, 2013 at 8:48 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MikeE

      QUEERTY editors: the expression is “toe the party line”, not “tow” it. You’re not dragging the party line behind you. You are standing at attention, with your toes up against it.

      Jan 2, 2013 at 9:15 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • 2eo

      @Harley: Well said Harley, people like Brent truly are cowardly and pathetic, and small. They are doing everything except help their fellow people, resorting to self loathing begging for acceptance from people who want them executed.

      How pathetic people like Brent still exist in 2013.

      Jan 2, 2013 at 10:45 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • DuMaurier

      @Harley: I’m very far from endorsing the LCR, but just a quibble here: in fact, prior to the passage of the 19th Amendment, women’s suffrage WAS put on the ballot in many states, and that’s how it got passed at that level in many places. Obviously, the amendment was needed to make it national, but I think most historians would agree that establishing it state by state at first paved the way for getting it into the U.S. Constitution.

      Jan 2, 2013 at 11:52 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Joel J

      To answer Queerty’s question, Hagel’s “sins” are overblown for political reasons and I hope Hagel is given the opportunity to clarify his statements on these issues in a nomination hearing. LCR is playing into the Israeli lobby’s most aggressive tactic: label any criticism of Israel’s policies as “anti-semitic,” except that in the case of Hagel it is “anti-gay.” Hagel does not buy into the neocon worldview and that is a problem for LCR and their financial supporters.

      Jan 2, 2013 at 12:42 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cam

      Was Cooper shuffled out for not towing the party line? Did he leave because he was unhappy with the group’s agenda?”

      Cooper would not have left without being forced out because he doesn’t have a new job. Here is my 2cents.

      Log cabin’s board realized that the group was on it’s deathbed because of Cooper’s favoring shilling for the GOP and trying to cover or explain away their anti-gay stances rather than calling them out. The group under him endorced many anti-gay politicians and cheered the defeat of Iraq War Vet Patrick Murphy who introduced the repeal of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell.

      The former head of Log Cabin, when it was at it’s height used to withold endorsements from politicians seen as anti-gay. Cooper not only didn’t do that, but attempted to claim that there was no difference in the anti-gay politicians he endorsed and the pro gay ones.

      The group saw it’s relevence and it’s fundraising tank. They may have realized that supporting traditional GOP ideals was different from defending gay hating bigots. They asked Cooper to leave and are using the ad as a signal that perhaps they are moving back to their old ways.

      Either that, or they have completely gone off the rails and gay issues are no longer relevent to their mission except as an excuse to attack those they don’t feel are toeing the party line.

      Take your pick.

      Jan 2, 2013 at 12:50 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Kieran

      Chuck Hagel is one of the few Republicans today who isn’t a crazy War-monger. Hagel is one of the few Republicans who has apologized to the American people for supporting Dumbya Bush’s Iraq War disaster. He has made it clear that he supports negotiations with Iran rather than launching another trillion dollar War. He has apologized for a homophobic comment he made 15 Years ago saying his views have changed since. He isn’t an irresponsible neocon nut who thinks every Arab and Muslim country who sees Israel as an enemy should automatically be deemed an enemy of the US.

      The Log Cabin morons refuse to reveal who funded the full page NY Times ad attacking Chuck Hagel. Why?

      Jan 2, 2013 at 12:58 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jean

      Hagel’s troglodyte record on gay rights is still an issue even though President Obama finds it very inconvenient as he would like to nominate Hagel tomorrow.

      Even more of an issue is Hagel’s silence about equal benefits for gay military families.

      I hope the President will not risk the political cost of loosing the confirmation battle on this terrible choice.

      It’s not only about what he said many years ago, but that he has not come out for any specific or general commitment to equality for gay military families.

      There are many ways a Secretary of Defense could help gay military families no matter how DOMA is decided and Hagel has not come out in favor of any of these.

      Reports to the contrary, LGBT equality is not yet a done deal in the military. There is still the matter of partner benefits. There still remain a handful of regulations that could be revised independent of the Defense of Marriage act that could bring some equity of compensation and benefits to gay and lesbian service members. but remain denied due only to Department of Defense foot-dragging:

      Included in the discretionary benefits currently denied are spousal identifcation cards, and shopping at the PX the former cited in the Pentagon’s own Working Group study as not requiring DOMA repeal to deliver.

      There are many other issues that make Hagel a poor choice.

      Jan 2, 2013 at 1:44 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • gjg64

      It seems to me that LCR is tacking to the far right to compete with GOProud. The whole thing stinks of Neo-Con politics……destroy Iran and kiss up to Israel no matter what they do. And before anyone calls me an anti-Semite, it’s Bibi and the Russians in Israel I don’t like…..he needs to stop trying to tell us how to run our foreign policy, especially when they don’t provide us with aid.

      If the LCR was so concerned with gay rights then why did they endorse Romney (even as a “qualified endorsement”).

      Jan 2, 2013 at 4:17 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • 2eo

      @gjg64: You don’t have to preface criticism of the machinations of Israel with noting you’re not anti-semitic.

      The sad thing is they are winning that battle, forcing legitimate criticism of their state as hatred of jews and the jewish people. I don’t buy it, and neither do the majority of informed and intelligent people [the only people whose opinions matter].

      Jan 2, 2013 at 4:42 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Joel J

      @gjg64: Or ask yourself why does LCR attend the Conservative Political Action Committee (CPAC) conference–the biggest collection of right-wing nutcases–where they are clearly not welcome? How low can they stoop for recognition from those who are clearly hostile to gay and lesbian rights.

      Jan 2, 2013 at 4:47 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Pete

      The LCRs are shills for the NeoCons, who continue to see American Christians as Janissaries for Zion.

      Jan 2, 2013 at 5:40 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • JohnQPublic

      The LCR has prostituted itself to any cause the right wing GOP is pushing. In this case, LCR are serving as gay cover for Israeli and Jewish attempts to torpedo the Hagel nomination. It’s that simple and basic, but the big difference is that the efforts of Israeli-firsters to place allegiance to Israel above US national interests are finally being outed.

      Jan 3, 2013 at 12:11 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • brent

      @2eo: Did you hear about the student who spoke up to Justice Scalia recently? Well it might surprise you that he was gay, conservative and supported Romney. Can you really say gay conservatives never speak up to other conservatives? Now tell me when in the past did Barney Frank speak up in the same way to tha african-american and hispanic communities?

      Jan 3, 2013 at 12:26 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • brent

      @Kieran: Wow! i get heat for supporting the cabin’s, but here liberals are supporting arab’s over Israel. Do gay liberals think gays have it better in Iran over Israel? There are stories of gay arabs trying to get into Israel. You don’t hear stories of gay Israels moving to arab countries for the same reason.

      Jan 3, 2013 at 12:35 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • brent

      @gjg64: You do know that the cabin’s fought the long fight in court to overturn DODT, while Obama fought them. Right.

      Jan 3, 2013 at 12:37 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • brent

      @JohnQPublic: So it is the american interest to support anti-democratic arabs over the democratic state of Israel. I thought liberals hate it when we support the oil sheiks. And how is it better for gays in the midle east to support the arabs over Israel?

      Jan 3, 2013 at 12:42 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Harley

      @Brent: I’m sorry. The use of “COWARD” was way wrong. I didn’t mean to insult cowards in that way. My heartfelt apologies to all cowards everywhere. I guess the term I should have used was “HYPOCRITES”. Don’t call yourself a gay organization when you support advocating discrimination against your own kind. Drop any hint that you represent GLBT interests and just call yourselves what you are. Pro-profit over humanities. Why feed poor children when it’s better to sock all your money in off shore bank accounts to avoid paying taxes and elect representatives that promise to pass laws in order to accomplish this. Why doesn’t the LCR advocate from re-instatement of sodomy laws. That’s what they do. Vote for whacks like Michele Bachman. To think she got so close to the presidency is frightening. FRIGHTENING!!!!!!

      Jan 3, 2013 at 6:41 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • brent

      @Harley: I guess you didn’t know that LCR were the most active in overturning the DODT. Pro-profits, you think it is all about greed. Democrats don’t care about greed. I think you miss the point that some people don’t believe in kenysian economics. You seem to make the mistake all liberals make politics is about greed vs. compassion. I reject that as a false choice. Greedy people know how to make money and create jobs, and like Bill Gates they often give it away to poor children. Besides i don’t vote for just republicans i vote in republican primary for candidates that are pro-gay and if they win i will vote for them. If an anti-gay republican wins i n hold my nose and vote for the democrat. There are plenty of pro-gay repoublicans if you took the time to vote in republican primaries they might start winning more.

      Jan 3, 2013 at 7:06 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • 2eo

      @brent: Aww bless, he thinks he’s people.

      Brent is not only a coward, but an American traitor who should be jailed and killed for sedition and treason.

      Jan 3, 2013 at 8:33 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Harley

      @brent: ah, the old ” we fought for repeal of DADT” line. How sad. Then why support candidates who promised to extend DADT (McCain) or who campaigned on bringing it back (Mitt “Swiss bank accounts” Romney). And how about your hero G W “DOMA” Bush. Your actions and endorsement tell all. Enough said.

      Jan 3, 2013 at 9:00 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Harley

      My bad. DOMA was Clinton’s baby. My mistake. G W Bush was ” marriage amendment”. Sorry.

      Jan 3, 2013 at 9:15 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Joel J

      @brent: That is not the point. Liberals support the democratic state of Israel. We do not support Likud policy, especially as regards West Bank settlements and West Bank occupation.

      Jan 3, 2013 at 9:47 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Chris Vogel

      The answer? They are conservatives: greedy, irresponsibly self-indulgent, childishly irresponsible, and utterly unscrupulous.

      Jan 3, 2013 at 2:15 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • tidalpool

      “jumps in’ Ok, I am an admitted fiscal conservative, I support equal rights for all of mankind and try to support equality where ever I go. I also have been a log cabin member for more then 20 years. For those of you under 40, I had no place to go as a gay conservative. There were no gay conservatives in any organized fashion when I returned to this country, and they were my answer. Inspite of what the str8 world assumes to be true, there are many conservative gays, we just dont tend to march, blow whistles, call everyone who is not like minded vile names or fall from one au courant movement to the next as the wind blows. Most of us are working professionals, most with advanced degree’s, the majority of us over 35, and wth stable home lives. 30 years plus for myself and my partner. We also tend to take the long term as the important road. Mr Hagel has not proved to be a friend to any LGBT. As a retired military officer, my partner still can not obtain any part of my military benefits. Mr. Hagel has opposed this concept consistantly. Mr. Hagel also has an odd way of showing support for the country of Israel. Israel is the one country in the mid east willing to support and provide LGBT equal rights. Try and find a pride parade in Egypt, or Iran, or Syria, or any other muslim country. Mostly they just chop our heads off and video tape it for peace loving muslims everywhere. Perhaps before all the assumptions and name calling starts, you might look at the role Israel plays in the acceptance of the LGBT community, and how Mr. hagel and his arab supporters absolutely do not.

      Jan 3, 2013 at 4:20 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Joel J

      @tidalpool: In other words, it’s about Israel.

      Jan 3, 2013 at 4:32 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • 2eo

      @Joel J: Indeed, I love it when people appeal to authority, it completely proves what they have to say is not informed or intelligent. Tidalpool isn’t the first and won’t be the last.

      Jan 3, 2013 at 8:08 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Joel J

      @brent: Did you hear the way Scalia put down that Princeton student for merely asking the question?

      Conservatives have a problem with authority: they worship it.

      Jan 3, 2013 at 8:53 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Joel J

      @tidalpool: Andrew Sullivan, a gay conservative and early and consistent advocate for same sex marriage, did not seek safe refuge in a publication like the National Review or the Weekly Standard. He became the editor of The New Republic and went on from there to advocate publicly for equal treatment of LGBT people without sacrificing his conservative principles. I guess you just needed some organization to do the thinking and speaking for you.

      Jan 3, 2013 at 9:42 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • JohnQPublic

      Tel Aviv may be the most gay friendly city in the Middle East but tour the rest of right wing orthodox Israel and you will find homophobes the equal to any Muslim. Moreover, the idea that you can excuse Israel’s half-century occupation and destruction of Palestine by saying its more gay friendly than most arab countries is morally bankrupt.That’s like saying the Nazi brown shirts weren’t as bad as the SS because so many if its leaders and recruits were closet queens.

      Jan 4, 2013 at 12:32 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • tidalpool

      @2eo: 2eo, just reviewed your past comments. You sure seem to advocate violence and speak with a consistant demeaning voice when addressing anyone who holds a viewpoint differing from your own. Not trying to play a tv doctor, but our kids were all the same way as children and thru adolescents. Should I ask your age?

      Jan 4, 2013 at 9:35 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • tidalpool

      @JohnQPublic: JohnQ, we spent 8 years in Israel the acceptance of the LGBT community there is as great, or more so, then our acceptance is in the USA. The orthodox hassidim may look at us with disgust, but they sure dont lock us up, or deny our rights, or stone us in football arenas, etc. The muslim world dispises gays, period. Acting on ones homosexuality is a death sentance in all muslim governed countries. The analogy you use of the brown shirts and the SS is entirely innapropriate and the actions following the Balfour Decision and the UN mandate deviding that portion of the old Ottoman Empire into distinct arab countries and one jewish country did not destroy any country named Palestine, nor did occuping the land the UN gave to the native jews as a home land involve occupation. Perhaps an unbiased reading of actually history, and even living in Israel for a few years might have an impact on your opinion, however, I fear I sense a zealot.

      Jan 4, 2013 at 9:46 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Joel J

      @tidalpool: You need to review your history. The Balfour Declaration did not create a Jewish state. Israel did not become a nation until 1948 in an area previously referred to as Palestine and where Palestinian families had lived and owned property for decades. Creation of the state of Israel created thousands of Palestinian refuges who were crowded together in camps on the West Bank,Jordan and in the Gaza Strip. The historical injustice visited on Palestinians since 1948 is the reason Israel has not and will not know peace as long as it persists in a policy of ever more territorial aggrandizement. These are just a few facts.

      Jan 4, 2013 at 10:07 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • John

      The US campaign to slowroll Netanyahu on Iran until past the elections where Netanyahu just possibly could have successfully installed a Romney – or forced an Obama into a war with Iran against his choosing – say with a sneak attack on a few Iranian reactors sometime last October (as Israel was ‘in motion’ to do) – has worked extremely well

      Now it’s time to shift momentum and go straight after ‘Netanyahu-Lobby’ in the US to take out the effectiveness of Kristol, Joe Lieberman, McCain, Graham, Schumer, Andrea Mitchell, David Gregory, Rachel Maddow, Bret Stephens, Jennifer Rubin, Ros-Lehiten and all the rest

      Chuck Hagel is the anvil upon which this can easily be accomplished.

      That’s right – I said – ‘easily accomplished’. What has been seemingly impossible for the last 10 yrs now seems eminently possible – and this is amazing to me.

      The spectacle of a Lindsay Graham or Chuck Schumer in Senatorial hearings on a Hagel nomination, with Chuck Hagel firing straight back, will be an experience the ‘Netanyahu-Lobby’ in the US will never recover from

      Something tells me Chuck Hagel has already fully anticipated and prepared for this fight – already volunteered for it – several months ago when Obama and he discussed it. Game On!

      Chuck Hagel face to face vs a Schumer or a Graham? With these denizens of the ‘Netanyahu-Lobby’ fully out in the open?

      I’m not a betting man but tell me this won’t be a particular kind of ‘easy’ or foregone conclusion…

      Jan 4, 2013 at 4:15 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Joel J

      @John: Gee, maybe the Hagel nomination was designed to be an extension of the slowroll. It sure has concentrated the energies of the Lobby and the equivalent of throwing a ball of yarn to a kitten.

      Jan 4, 2013 at 5:03 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·

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Treatment of hereditary dark circles under the eyes

Hereditary dark circles is usually a problem with pigmentation -- and perhaps the best treatment for hyperpigmentation is a peel -- not surgery.

Fat grafting can be used to fill in hollows -- but only below the rim of the eyeball socket.  If you have fat bags as well with shadows under the fat bags, then sometimes a lower eyelid tuck can gently move the fat from the bag into a lower position to fill in the hollow beneath the bag.  By minimizing the fat bag and filling in the area beneath it, the eyelid is made smoother, the lid/cheek junction is eliminated and the shadow effects are minimized.

I frequently perform midface lifts, which will lift the entire cheek adjacent to the side of the nose.  This procedure can correct hollowness beneath the eyes by moving the thicker cheek skin directly upwards.  And since everything is moving north, the lower end of the pigmented skin is raised as well.  However, this procedure alone will not remove all the pigmentation.

As you can see, fat grafting is only one method of improving the lower eyelids.  Each has its pros and cons.  For example, fat grafts are not guaranteed to "take" and may require additional grafting.  Sometimes it can be a bit lumpy as well.

It would be to your advantage to consult with several physicians in order to get a good idea of what would work for you.  Be sure to ask for the pros and cons of any recommended techniques.

You can read more about the midface lift on my website,  plasticsurgeonnewyork.com/mid_facelift.php

Good luck!

Elliot Jacobs, MD, FACS
New York City

A midface lift might be helpful

A midface lift can make a marked improvement in hollow lower eyelids and even improve dark circles. I would be happy to take a look at your eyes in NYC and show you pictures of results of patients with problems  similar to yours.

Jeffrey Schiller, MD
Staten Island Oculoplastic Surgeon
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What is the Best Treatment for my Under Eye Wrinkles when Smiling? (photo)

I am 33 years old and all of a sudden these under eye wrinkles have crept up on me over the past year, including crows feet when I smile. I recently did botox which has helped with the crows feet (pic is before botox) and although the Doctor but a tiny amount (one prick) under the outside corner of my lower eyelid, it did not help too much in this section. Any suggestions on what would smooth this under eye section out?

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Under eye wrinkles

The wrinkles you are describing are all dynamic wrinkles meaning that they are only present when you animate your face.  I would recommend to continue to treat the wrinkles at the outside edge of your eyes with Botox as this works very well in this area.  The wrinkles underneath your eye may be improved with laser resurfacing but anyone will have  wrinkles in this area if you squint your eyes hard enough.  The overlying skin is adherent to the underlying muscle in this area and if you contract the muscle then the skin will inevitably wrinkle as well.
Best Regards,

Jacque P. LeBeau, MD

Pensacola Facial Plastic Surgeon
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Solution for tiny wrinkles around eyes

In my opinion, the best solution is still Botox. Perhaps, by what you were describing, you did not have enough Botox injected to the periorbital areas to achieve the result that you were looking for. Generally, I will use approx 12 units around each eye to smooth out this area, and I spread the injections out, giving 3 to 4 injections under each eye. I also would recommend that you have a board certified plastic surgeon perform your injections.

Best Wishes

Evan Manolis, MD
Orland Park Plastic Surgeon
4.1 out of 5 stars 15 reviews

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I have double bubble on my left breast.It's not an extremely visible case but it is annoying. My dr. suggested that he can temporarily correct this with fat grafting or Macrolane (he suggested fat transfer as a better method...injecting fat on top of the crease that appears) Will this help? I am not ready for another operation, i prefer to try this as a temporary fix.

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Can the Double Bubble Look Be Corrected Temporarily with Fat Grafting?

Yes based upon the posted photo. Expert fat grafting and multiple incision release can aid. Best to seek in person evaluations.

Double bubble and fat grafting

Fat grafting may help camouflage the double bubble a bit, but the  better treatment would be  to resuspend the fold and maybe use smaller implants.

Steven Wallach, MD
New York Plastic Surgeon
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How to fix the "double bubble"

Although fat grafting may help to improve the "double bubble" look, the definitive treatment would be to reestablish the inframammary fold using a technique called capsulorrhaphy. This will require a surgical procedure which includes re incising the breast along the inframammary fold and tacking the capsule down to the chest wall that holds the implant in place.  This will lift the implant back up into position and diminish the appearance of the “double bubble.” Sometimes, a material called Strattice can be used in conjunction with this technique.  Strattice is a sheet of sterile tissue derived from porcine (pig) skin that can be sewn into the inferior portion of the capsule to act as an internal support bra for the implant to prevent it from sliding out of place in the future.  These are all options to discuss with your surgeon. Best wishes.

C. Andrew Salzberg, MD
Westchester Plastic Surgeon
4.9 out of 5 stars 43 reviews

Double bubble fix with a fat graft

The double bubble is caused by the implant pushing out of the skin envelope of the breast, literally the breast sits on top of the implant rather that the implant fitting within. Over time the skin envelope can relax for some and the breast and implant work together as one. For others the skin on the abdomen below give in to the pressure and the bubble persists. The issue is skin laxity or lack of, and not cover which a fat graft provide, so our bet would be no.

Peter E. Johnson, MD
Chicago Plastic Surgeon
4.1 out of 5 stars 39 reviews

Correction of "double bubble" after breast implants with fat transfer

Correction of "double bubble" after breast implants with fat transfer sounds like a novel (new) approach.  I do not think most plastic surgeons have much if any experience with it, but if yours does, and can SHOW you lasting (more than a few months) results than I would consider it.  Most of us would recommend restoring the integrity of the IMF (inframammary fold, the crease under the breast) with a technique called "capsulorrhaphy" and nowadays I am inclined to add a supportive "sling" of tissue to support the suture repair.  Long story short, I am not sure about the fat injections.  Please keep us all updated with a post either way.  Thank you.

Fat Grafting to the Breast

Fat Grafting to the breast can be a valuable way to place soft tissue around the edges of a breast implant, including a double bubble look.  It is however a real surgery, both in the harvesting of the fat by liposuction and the injecting of it in the breast and chest region.  I cannot tell from your photographs whether that would be a good choice for you.  It may be that a revision of the pocket might be a better choice.

Mary Lee Peters, MD
Seattle Plastic Surgeon
4.9 out of 5 stars 106 reviews

Breast Implant

Surgical repair is far superior. Though it requires good expertise to correct implant displacement.

Fat grafting may interfere in future repair.

Samir Shureih, MD
Baltimore Plastic Surgeon
5.0 out of 5 stars 6 reviews

Correction of “Double Bubble”?

Thank you for the question and picture.

If your plastic surgeon can demonstrate significant experience/success with this technique then it may be a viable and probably temporary “fix”.

In my practice, I would suggest repair of the breast implant pocket (capsulorrhaphy)  when the time is right for you.

Best wishes.

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Can the Muscle Walls of the Abdomen Be Tighten Without Having a Tummy Tuck? (photo)

I am curious to know if a full tummy tuck needs to be performed to tighten both the upper and lower muscles of the abdominal wall? I have 2 stretch marks from birthing two children; I don't have a pouch like most moms I know... rather my stomach just protrudes out even though I work out (5'3", 125lbs).

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Can the Muscle Walls of the Abdomen Be Tighten Without Having a Tummy Tuck? (

It is sometimes possible to do just a muscle tightening. These photos are dark, but on viewing them I am not sur you would get enough of an improvement without removal of excess skin and fat.

Another issue can be that if there is a lot of tightening, the skin will be carried along and can buckle along the vertical midline if a skin release is not also done.

Discuss carefully all options with your surgeon. Best wishes.

Tummy Tuck includes tightening the abdominal muscles

A tummy tuck involves 3 components:

  1. Skin removal
  2. Fat removal
  3. Muscle tightening

One can choose to have all 3 components performed or just one or two.  Please have a discussion with your plastic surgeon to figure out what would work best for you.

David Finkle, MD
Omaha Plastic Surgeon
4.9 out of 5 stars 67 reviews

Abdominal muscle tightening

Hi Chinadoll11550

The short answer is yes, abdominal muscles can be sutured together without doing a full tummy tuck incision. What is more important is whether you are a good candidate or if you will be happy with the final result.

Your photos seem to show global bulging of your abdomen. This could be due to muscle looseness or intra-abdominal fat. A good method of checking this is to see how flat your tummy is when you lie down. If your tummy is flat between your ribs and pelvis, you are still carrying a bit of fat on the inside, which will only be removed through diet & exercise. If you are concave (sucked in) when lying quietly, it is more likely to just be abdominal muscle weakness.

If you elect to proceed with muscle tightening only, your Plastic Surgeon needs to show you the 6 month or 1 year results of their last 10 consecutive patients (not just the good results). In my humble experience, patients are generally underwhelmed with the results of this procedure. They'd like to avoid the scar, but the contour change is less significant than can be achieved with a typical tummy tuck.

Good Luck

Dr Gavin Sandercoe

Abdominal muscle tightening without a Tummy Tuck scar

The answer to your question is 'yes, the abdominal muscles can be tightened as an isolated procedure'. The operation can be performed using a short lower abdominal incision similar to a Caesarian incision and usually another incision at the level of the umbilicus.

I think the other question you might ask is 'would this operation be suitable for me?'

Muscle tightening or repair operations work well if a gap has developed between the Rectus muscles in the midline of the abdominal wall or if they have stretched. But for the operation to provide a long term result the pressure pushing out on the muscles needs to be minimal.

So if there is a significant amount of intra abdominal fat present, the operation won't work well. While you are standing if your abdominal wall bulges forward and feels firm or hard this is not good. While you are lying flat if your abdominal wall still bulges forward this isn't good either. Both these signs suggest there may be too much visceral or intra abdominal fat present to achieve a satisfactory result.

An examination by an appropriately qualified Plastic Surgeon should be able to sort this out for you.

Tightening muscles without skin removal

Some people carry much of their fat around the organs in the abdomen (so called "visceral fat") more so than outside the muscle wall of the abdomen.  The visceral fat tends to bulge out the abdomen in people, and these people often do not have a lot of extra skin.  The only real way to fix that situation is through diet and exercise.

Tummy Tuck Without Skin Removal

In select individuals, yes the muscles can be tightened without removing skin.  These individuals: 1) have spread muscles but no extra skin, 2) do not have much fatty tissue in around the organs (tightening the muscles puts pressure on the internal abdominal contents which can push on the diapragm making it hard to breath or cut off circulation from pressure on the large vessels inside the abdomen).

The procedure requires an incision at the lower abdomen to get at the muscles in the lower half, and an incision at the belly button to get at the upper half.  The skin and subcutaneous tissue needs to be separated off the muscles and the muscles sewn together.  Sometimes this can lead to bunching of the skin if it is inelastic.

In your pictures your abdomen protrudes.  If it also has fatty tissue inside, you would not be a good candidate.  If your tummy sticks out just from loose muscles, you might be.  Seek out an experienced board certified plastic surgeon to see what you might qualify for.  Good Luck!

Deborah Ekstrom, MD
Worcester Plastic Surgeon
4.7 out of 5 stars 38 reviews

Can the Muscle Walls of the Abdomen Be Tighten Without Having a Tummy Tuck?

      The walls can be tightened without a tummy tuck, but you may or may not want skin removal.  To be honest with you, I cannot tell much from the pictures.  Find a plastic surgeon with ELITE credentials who performs hundreds of tummy tucks each year.  Then look at the plastic surgeon's website before and after photo galleries to get a sense of who can deliver the results.  Kenneth Hughes, MD Los Angeles, CA

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I had a Tummy Tuck and ended up with a seroma, how long can it take to go away and how many times might it have to be drained?

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Number of aspirations Variable

The number of times aspiration is necessary to eradicate a seroma is variable, depending on the amount of fluid produced and the completeness of aspiration. My general rules are to aspirate 3-5 times and if this does not resolve the issue, return to the OR for placement of a drain. Other options include the injection of a sclerosing agent to obliterate the cavity. I also recommend decreasing activity and wearing of the garment until the seroma is resolved. Good Luck!

Vacaville Plastic Surgeon
5.0 out of 5 stars 89 reviews

Aspirations after tummy tuck surgery

There is no right or wrong answer to this question.  Seromas are a very frequent result of performing tummy tucks, and the more liposuction is combined with the tummy tuck the more likely it is to develop a seroma.  The proper treatment is to drain the seroma every other day or so, hoping to diminish the volume of fluid removed each time.  Once the volime is less than 25cc., the remaing fluid should absorb without further aspirations.  It may be a good idea to be sure your Plastic Surgeon cultures the fluid for bacteria if many aspirations are needed.  There can develop an infection in the fluid with multiple aspirations, even when sterile techniques are strictly followed.

Good luck.   Frank Rieger M.D.  Tampa

Seroma post tummy tuck

seromas do occur post operatively that is why drains are left in place. sometimes after removal of the drain, fluid recurs, sometimes due to activity level. will it recur and how many times will it need to be drained is difficult to answer. it depends on the amount of fluid obtained with the aspiration, and how it does over the next week or so. was the fluid normal appearing or did it have signs of infection. Follow your surgeons advice, compression garment, limited activity, taking your temperature, and close follow up by your surgeon is my advice.

Rick Rosen, MD
Norwalk Plastic Surgeon
5.0 out of 5 stars 18 reviews

Seroma after tummy tuck

Thank you for the question.

Unfortunately, there is no knowing exactly how many aspiration sessions will be necessary before the seroma  does not recur.  Most of the time however somewhere between 2 and 5 sessions are required.  It may be helpful to apply a “soft” pressure dressing over the area of fluid accumulation and to limit strenuous activity during this time.

Another piece of advice (that may not apply to you specifically) for patients recovering  after tummy tuck surgery has to do with the emotional responses to major surgery.  Patients who are about to undergo tummy tuck surgery spend a lot of time thinking about the physical preparation for the procedure (for example weight loss issues) but do not spend a lot of time thinking about the emotional aspects.

It is not uncommon for patients who undergo the procedure to experience severe “mood swings”. These emotions may range from depression ( “why did I do this to myself”) to elation  (which may lead to over activity). I think it is helpful to be aware that these emotional swings do occur postoperatively.
Suggestions I have for patients undergoing this procedure: 1. Make sure you have a strong support system in place who have time/patience to take care of you. 2. Be patient with the healing process, understanding that it will take several weeks to months to feel “normal” again. 3. Be prepared to distract your mind with things of interest such as books, magazines, and movies. 4. Expect less of yourself; do not go back to work too early and let others take care of you (for a change). 5. Keep in close communication with your surgeon and do not hesitate to communicate questions/concerns and the emotional swings that you may experience. 6. Keep in mind the end result!

 I hope this helps.

Seroma after an abdominoplasty

Your plastic surgeon is in the best position to help decide what the problem is and how to correct it.  Usually it takes no more than 3 times for the seroma to resolve.  If the fluid keeps collecting then a drainage tube may have to be re-inserted.  It the pocket is still there you may need to have the seroma capsule excised.  If you are draining less then 25 cc each time then it is likely that this will resolve on its own.  Once it is totally gone it will not come back.

Jeffrey Zwiren, MD
Atlanta Plastic Surgeon
4.7 out of 5 stars 15 reviews

Seroma after a Tummy Tuck

Sorry to hear you have a seroma, although they are common after the tummy tuck procedure, they are also frustrating for patients to keep having their seroma drained. The amount of times you have to have it drained varies. It essentially has to do with how much fluid you have built up.  If the drainage continues, your surgeon may suggest for you to go in the OR and have a new drain put in.

My recommendation for you to limit your activity level and wear your compression garment until your seroma gets better. Best of luck to you.

To learn more, please visit our page on potential complications of a tummy tuck procedure.

The Common Occurrence Of Seromas After Tummy Tucks

Once you have developed a seroma after a tummy tuck, it is rare to just have to drain it one time. Usually it will take around four or more weekly aspirations (taps) until fluid no longer accumulates. Fortunately this is not a surgical problem and is a nuisance that is easily dealt with in a quick office procedure. While you are in the seroma phase, do not do heavy exercise or walk extended amounts as this causes more fluid to build up. Also wear your compression binder until the seroma no longer returns.

How Many Times Should I Expect to have a Seroma Drained Post Tummy Tuck?

If you are having aspiration of this seroma more than 3 times in a 10 day time frame. Than I recommend re insertion of a drain to closed suction system. As long as fluid is accumulating than the healing will be delayed.

Fluid collection after tummy tuck

Seromas are collections of fluid that can form under the skin after a tumm tuck. These may need to be drained in the office  several times until the fluid amounts are quite low. If the fluid persists, occasionally a drain may need to be replaced and injected with a special solution to prevent fluid accumulation. Discuss this in detail with your plastic surgeon as each case is unique.

Best wishes,

William Bruno, MD
Beverly Hills Plastic Surgeon
4.9 out of 5 stars 304 reviews

Seromas - TT

Hello. Thanks for your question . Seromas are the most frequent minor complications in this type of surgeries. The number of punctures to drain a seroma can vary greatly from patient to patient . You must have as many punctures are necessary to reduce them to an amount that can be absorbed by your body.  Best Luck.

Derby Sang, MD
Dominican Republic Plastic Surgeon
5.0 out of 5 stars 53 reviews

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