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Summer 2008 / Issue 51 (originally published by Booz & Company)

The Talent Lie

“Putting people first” can be more than a slogan.

Illustration by Lars Leetaru

It is hard to find a recently published book or article about  management that doesn’t refer to the importance of people. Authors speak of the war for talent and the relationship of human capital to the market value of a company. CEOs declare in annual reports that people are their company’s most important asset. Surveys of executives confirm that many believe that finding and developing the right talent should be one of their top priorities.

It is a positive sign to see so many executives and management writers stress the importance of human capital, and one would expect the companies they work for and consult with to behave accordingly. But few organizations seem to walk their executives’ talk when it comes to the management of talent. Most companies are operated in ways that downplay the importance of people. They have bureaucratic structures that optimize the value of financial capital, machinery, equipment, and natural resources, at the expense of talent development and the opportunity for people to use their skills. Work processes are designed with simplified, standardized jobs, and individuals are controlled through well-defined hierarchical reporting relationships, highly monitored budgets, and close supervision.

The contrast between what executives say about the importance of people and how they manage their organizations is unfortunate at best. At worst, it is a major contributor to poor organizational performance.

To be sure, there are some companies — for example, some high-volume commodity producers — for which the quality of human capital doesn’t matter very much. When all is said and done, natural resources, cash, other tangible corporate assets, and even government regulations are more important to the success of these enterprises.

But for the vast majority of companies today, people do matter. The market value of most companies depends in large part on intangible assets, the most important being human capital. Particularly in developed countries, businesses need workers to perform complex work at a high level. Outstanding talent is scarce, and it can be a critical source of competitive advantage.

When executives say people are important but the organization’s practices and structures do not reflect this view, the unspoken message is the one that gets heard: People are not a source of competitive advantage after all. Employees are, in effect, told that the company is managing them incompetently and that their bosses know that this suboptimal approach is wrong. As a result, executives come across both as hypocritical and as poor managers and strategists, which in turn undermines their ability to lead.

Closing the gap between rhetoric and reality is not easy, but it can be done. Three features of any corporate structure clearly show whether management truly believes in the importance of human capital or is merely paying lip service to it. They are the corporate board, the human resources management function, and the information systems. If you are interested in building an organization in which people are treated as a valuable asset, then you must focus on these three critical areas.

Boards of Ignorance
When a corporation values human capital, the board of directors should have access to both the expertise and the information needed to understand talent issues at all levels of the organization. Consider the issue of expertise. A good deal of research-based knowledge exists about the retention, motivation, and development of human capital. Acquiring this knowledge and putting it to use requires in-depth expertise. Thus, a board should have at least one member who has a sophisticated understanding of the research related to human resources  management, organizational effectiveness, succession planning, and learning and development. These are the anchors of effective human capital management.

A good comparison point is the presence on just about every board of at least one individual with financial expertise: someone who understands capital markets and can give advice on them. In addition, every board has someone with an accounting background. If a company’s most important asset is its people, it is reasonable to expect that its board would have a similar level of expertise in human capital available to it.

Board members should receive regular information about the condition of an organization’s talent and the way it develops and deploys that talent. Among other things, this should include information about people’s attitudes and skill development levels; assessments of the availability of backup talent for key positions; and evaluations of the organization’s ability to attract, retain, and develop new talent.

Moreover, the board should spend at least as much time on human capital issues as it does on the allocation of financial and physical capital. It is particularly important that corporate boards spend time on succession planning for top-level management positions. Nothing is more important for the future of an organization than the type of talent it has available to fill its most senior positions. Thus, the board should have up-to-date, in-depth knowledge of what executive talent is available and how well developed it is.

Research on existing boards suggests that most organizations fall far short of these ideals. For example, although it is hard to come up with exact figures on how many boards have members with expertise in human capital management — from consulting, academic, or practitioner experience — my research suggests that most boards do not have many, if any, such members. Almost no U.S. boards have a member who has been or is a vice president of human resources with a major corporation. (Starbucks is a current exception, and TRW and United Parcel Service of America both formerly had their vice president of human resources on their board.) And virtually no HR consultants sit on today’s corporate boards. This relative scarcity stands in stark contrast with the number of venture capitalists and financial experts on corporate boards.

When it comes to academics being on boards, the pattern is similarly clear. Finance and accounting professors sit on numerous corporate boards, but membership on a board is a rarity among professors of HR management and organizational behavior. One of the few exceptions is David Ulrich, a human resources management professor and consultant based at the University of Michigan, who sits on the board of Herman Miller Inc., the office and home furniture company. But Herman Miller is itself atypically preoccupied with human capital issues; one of its former CEOs, Max De Pree, is known for his book Leadership Is an Art (Doubleday, 1989), which outlines a humanitarian approach to management.

When I ask board members who they rely on for HR expertise, they often mention one or more of the CEOs who are on their board. They point out that CEOs have considerable management experience and therefore must have expertise in human capital. But CEOs rarely have a deep expertise in HR management. And the comparison to finance is revealing: Most CEOs have at least as much experience managing financial assets as they have managing people, but they are rarely the “go-to” experts on boards for decisions about financial capital. They simply don’t have the requisite depth of knowledge. If human resources is as important an area as many executives claim, why should it be treated any differently?

There is little question that boards spend more time on financial issues than on human capital issues, particularly since the fall of Enron and the passage of the Sarbanes-Oxley Act. Boards also spend more time on operations issues. One reason is that they do not get systematic information about the condition of an organization’s talent; they don’t see the results of attitude surveys, turnover analyses, and succession plans. In some cases, this is because those materials don’t exist; in others, it’s because management does not share them with the board. Particularly likely to be missing is good analytic data showing how HR metrics relate to organizational performance.

Some boards do encourage their members to visit company facilities and talk to employees. Although this is certainly a step in the right direction, it is not a good substitute for rigorous analytic information. Nor is it a good substitute for having the board review an organization’s succession plans and assess the quality of its management talent. One way boards can accomplish the latter is by asking managers to make presentations to the board; another is to have managers participate in board meetings.

In short, most corporate boards simply do not have the expertise or information they need to set a strategic direction for recruiting, developing, and assessing their company’s talent.

Inadequate HR Departments
In any organization that believes human capital is its most important asset, it follows logically that the HR department should be its most important staff group. This means that HR should contain some of the top talent in the company, along with the best information technology resources, and HR should be a valued expert resource when it comes to strategy development, change management, organization design, and talent management.

The HR function should be staffed with individuals who understand the business — and who know the intricacies of human capital strategy and management systems. The department shouldn’t be staffed only with individuals who are planning on a career in HR. To be sure, some professionals will devote their careers to human resources, and they should have advanced degrees and in-depth expertise; however, the HR department should also be seen as an important career stepping-stone for anyone who aspires to a senior management position — just as experience in operations and finance are seen as critical in organizations that treat financial capital as their most important asset.

HR department leaders need to be involved in business strategy discussions. Sometimes this requirement is expressed as HR’s need to be at the table when key business strategy decisions are made, but a seat at the strategy table is not enough. If human capital really is an organization’s most important asset, human resources should “set the table” for strategy discussions by framing the issues in terms of the current condition of the organization’s human capital and what talent is available in the market. This can illuminate strategic opportunities that might not otherwise be seen, and can make it clear when strategies are not feasible.

There is a great deal of evidence to suggest that the HR departments in most major corporations are far less involved in strategy than they should be. With a few exceptions, HR departments get neither the talent, nor the resources, nor the access to the knowledge they need to be an expert resource on strategy, change management, organization design, and talent management. Even the best HR departments rarely reach this standard.

The best people coming out of business schools typically do not choose careers in HR. The field pays lower salaries and is not seen as a great starting point for the career of any would-be senior executive (except, of course, for HR executives). As a result, human resources is not a preferred concentration in most MBA programs. Almost none of today’s top executives have ever worked in an HR department. (A couple of exceptions are Anne Mulcahy at Xerox and John Hofmeister at Shell Oil.)

In most organizations, the HR function itself is staffed with competent professionals, but few have had middle or senior management jobs outside HR. As a result, they don’t have the experience that helps them think of their work in the context of the larger business and its priorities. This in turn means that they often have difficulty providing the kind of strategic direction and advice that is needed. PepsiCo, General Electric, and IBM are often cited as leaders in the deployment of HR, but even these companies do not systematically rotate their top management talent into the HR department. (They do, however, recruit top talent into the HR department.)

Rarely are corporate HR programs subject to the same kind of analysis and effectiveness tests that are applied to the other key assets of a corporation. For example, HR seldom knows or asks about the return on investment of its various policies, practices, and programs. HR people typically lack the analytic skills to assess the cost-effectiveness and impact of their programs and to determine the likely effect of proposed changes in job designs, organization structure, and HR-related policies. The HR function also often lacks a true “decision science” process (an analytic means of weighing choices and reaching optimal outcomes) when it comes to allocating human capital or planning learning and development programs for key talent.

The paucity of analytics is particularly apparent in the areas of rewards and talent management. HR generally does not calculate the return on such key reward-related decisions as how to allocate stock options, when to change benefit programs, and how to build a pay-for-performance program. Usually little, if any, data is available about the return on training programs, developmental coaching, and most other talent development practices and programs. Again, the contrast with tangible assets is obvious. There is good information in most organizations about the performance of equipment, products, and services against key financial indicators. The information is used to make decisions about the allocation of financial capital and the continuation of activities. But decisions about human capital are made without good data, and often on an ad hoc or intuitive basis.

Irrelevant Information Systems
There is an old saying that what gets measured gets attended to. The implication of this for human capital is very straightforward. The quality of an organization’s people will be a central focus only if it has HR measures that are as relevant, rigorous, and comprehensive as the measures that pertain to financial assets and physical capital.

To be effective, a human capital information system needs to track the contribution of people to the organization’s most critical and strategic objectives. It needs to provide a good indication of how productive individuals are and how their productivity relates to organizational performance. It needs to measure the condition of the organization’s competencies and capabilities, especially those that are needed for superior performance.

It is particularly important for the HR department to have information technology resources that will enable it to produce the kind of comprehensive, real-time quantitative data that can be used by leaders to make fact-based decisions about talent management. This includes comprehensive data on the condition and use of the organization’s human capital. HR leaders should not just generate and analyze this data, they should apply it to most critical decisions. The executive committee and the board should do the same.

But boards and executives are not the only ones who need human capital information. Given that an organization’s intangibles account for an increasing percentage of its market capitalization, it makes sense for investors to request and receive information about an organization’s human capital. Again, the comparison to financial capital is clear. If human capital is an organization’s key asset, then investors both need and deserve to receive regular updates on the condition of that asset. They should have access to information on turnover rates, money spent on development, employee engagement, and the organization’s competencies and capabilities.

The human capital metrics and analytics that are actually available to investors do not meet this standard. They tend to lack the precision and comprehensiveness of the financial metrics that are reported. Occasionally an organization includes in its annual report an accident rate or a turnover rate, but hard data about human capital is rarely presented in any systematic way in public documents.

Many organizations do make some attempt to find out about the condition of their human capital. They conduct attitude surveys, they measure turnover, they track the number of job offers accepted, and so on. But very few produce a regularly updated scorecard of human capital metrics, especially one tied to financial performance. The result: incomplete strategic planning, inadequate succession planning, and poor use of people.

Lingering behind the Curve
In all three areas we have considered — corporate boards, HR functions, and information and measurement systems — there are enormous gaps between the way organizations are managed and the way they should be managed and designed if human capital truly is their most important asset. The obvious question is, Why do these gaps exist? Is it because executives don’t really believe what they say when it comes to the importance of human capital? Is it because they don’t know how to design an organization in which human capital is paramount? Are they trapped by the past practices of their organization? Are they personally threatened by change? The answer is undoubtedly some combination of all these factors.

In the end, the reason is less important than the consequences. When senior executives resist designing and managing organizations in ways that treat human capital as their organization’s most important asset, there are multiple negative effects. People feel exploited and undervalued. The best people migrate elsewhere; the midlevel people never get the development that allows them to make a real contribution; and the worst people linger, dragging the whole organization down.

It may take the emergence of a whole new generation of managers before most organizations walk the talk when it comes to talent. Perhaps there is a harbinger of what is to come in the cases of W.L. Gore & Associates, SAS, Whole Foods, and Starbucks. Why are these companies ahead of the curve? One common factor is suggestive: All four have a founding CEO who not only says that people are the company’s most important asset — but personally acts as though it’s true.

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Author Profile:

Edward E. Lawler III is the director of the Center for Effective Organizations and a distinguished professor of business at the University of Southern California’s Marshall School of Business. He is the author of Talent: Making People Your Competitive Advantage (Jossey-Bass, 2008) and, with Christopher Worley, Built to Change: How to Achieve Sustained Organizational Effectiveness (Jossey-Bass, 2006).

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Gridlock Sam’s Compromise Plan

As if we didn't already know it, last week's Traffic Mitigation Commission hearings revealed that opposition to Mayor Bloomberg's congestion pricing plan among outer borough and suburban legislators may very well be intractable. Even in traffic-crushed districts where one would almost certainly find a majority in favor of some form of congestion pricing, we didn't see a single state legislator willing to stand up for the Mayor's plan. While support for congestion pricing was surprisingly strong among citizens and civic groups that showed up to testify, elected representatives' timidity was no surprise. As a Transport for London spokesman told me a while back, "If congestion pricing had to go through a legislative process it probably wouldn't have happened."

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A Mark Hotchin-linked multimillion-dollar beachfront home on Waiheke Island is central to a scrap in the High Court.

The former Hanover Finance director's neighbours are effectively blocking the sale of his holiday home, valued at $8.8 million, unless the sale agreement includes a caveat to protect their right-of-way access, or easement, to their property.

Two of Hotchin's trusts, KA3 and KA4, named after his daughters, Kelly and Ashley, own Palm Beach properties in Matapana Rd worth as much as $13.3m.

KA3 sold an adjacent property, 34 Matapana Road, to Olo, a company owned by Stephen Casper, in September 2010.

Casper and associate Jo Richmond included a caveat with trustees in the initial sale agreement to ensure builders could access their property.

Casper's lawyer, Ben Russell, told the High Court in Auckland that the accessway was used by Casper and Richmond to move in, demolish and then rebuild a holiday home.

The agreement was extended in April 2013 because there was no other practical alternative because of the steep terrain and property layout.

"Not only is this accessway the historical way [to enter 34 Matapana Rd], it is the only way," Russell said.

By late last year, Richmond was told that neither she nor Casper could use Hotchin's hideaway on a right-of-way basis.

Tension between Casper and Richmond and the property manager acting on behalf of the trusts, Jillian Alison, grew so bad that Alison blocked the only accessway to the neighbour's building site with a padlocked gate and vehicles.

David Chisholm, QC, acting on behalf of Hotchin's trusts, said the case came down to an access agreement between two parties, rather than a legal right-of-way easement agreement, that was tied to the land regardless of who owned it.

He said the agreement lacked the specific definitions, such as driveway width, deviation points and boundaries, common to legal right-of-way contracts.

That KA3 had to point out access-rights agreements with another party to potential buyers proved the case was about agreements between people and not tied to the land, he said.

Although Chisholm said access could be to the south, not north, of Hotchin's tennis court, Justice Graham Lang said that in practice there was only one defined and usable access to Casper's still-unfinished home.

Justice Lang has reserved his decision, which is expected within two weeks.

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Methane, which accounts for about half of New Zealand's total annual greenhouse emissions, had to be brought under control, said panel members at last night's Hot Science event in Christchurch.

Discussing climate change and the winners and losers in Canterbury from changing land use, Lincoln University professor of resource economics Ross Cullen said the Government had to give clear signals that climate change was an important issue and that emissions behaviour had to change.

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"We need to face up to the fact that we are producing a lot of greenhouse gases in New Zealand and we need to move away from that," Cullen said.

Moderator Kim Hill asked about the contributions to methane production from different rural sectors.

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Cullen said the country's approximately 40 million sheep and six to seven million cattle produced about the same amount of methane.

Landcare Research global change processes science leader Dr David Whitehead said methane was the gas that could not be reduced.

"Clearly, farmers want to keep up production, increase production, and you can't reduce methane emissions unless you reduce the number of animals or the size of animals."

Hill said the need to keep production up seemed to be a "sacred cow".

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The final Hot Science public seminar next week looks at food production.

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The percentage of students sent out of school for misbehaving in Manawatu-Whanganui last year was in the top three in the country, whether for disobedience, drugs or alcohol offences or assaults, Ministry of Education statistics issued this week reveal.

A former Freyberg High School student, who was expelled this year for smoking marijuana on a school bus, had grievances with how the school "followed all the wrong processes for dealing with problems", citing discrepancies and "double standards" at the school. He is calling for more help for struggling students.

"It was a lot of hassle for me and my parents trying to get me into another school and trying to say I'm a worthy student who deserves a second chance, which I am." This year a number of Freyberg's senior leaders were caught drinking on school grounds, out of school time, and were stood down, principal Peter Brooks confirmed. Every student's case was looked at in context and was judged by a disciplinary committee on its merits, but Brooks said the school worked hard to ensure a "fair and just" process involving parents and pupils was followed.

Palmerston North Boys' High School has excluded two students, both aged under 16, for continual disobedience, and suspended five this year.

"The public sometimes have this impression that we just want to kick students out and wash our hands of them, but that's not the case at all," rector David Bovey said. "We want to help these kids have the best educational experience they can."

The school had a disciplinary case taken to the High Court at Wellington this year after a mother challenged her son's expulsion for smoking marijuana during school hours - he was dressed in uniform, but not on school grounds.

Police caught the boy, then 16, smoking marijuana with a group of other students in December.

He was suspended and subsequently expelled by the board of trustees' disciplinary committee. A judge dismissed an application for a judicial review, saying he was satisfied with the board's decision and ordered the mother to pay part of the school's $25,220 legal bill.

The mother had suggested her son be subjected to random drug-testing instead of being suspended.

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DROPPING LEVELS: John Callesen by the lake, that is at record low levels, on his property on Karere Road.

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Another case of a drying Manawatu lagoon has been linked to the Wellington Anniversary Day earthquake, though there is doubt about the cause.

Valhalla Seeds owner and former All Black John Callesen said yesterday the water in the Karere Lagoon - most of which is on his Longburn property - dropped soon after the January 20 earthquake to a low he did not think had been seen since his family acquired the property in 1870.

This followed recent suspicions that the earthquake was behind the Ashhurst Wetlands draining and falling water levels in the Hokowhitu Lagoon in Palmerston North.

Mr Callesen said he had been in Christchurch when the January earthquake, centred near Eketahuna, happened. "I came home and I thought, ‘Geez, you guys have had some dry weather.' I was away for 10 days."

It appeared that the water level, which had never fully recovered from last year's drought, had settled now and evaporation was in play, but two months ago the lagoon lost 150 millimetres in just two days, he said.

"I hadn't thought it was the earthquake until a friend mentioned it, and I thought ‘crikey'."

He read a news report saying it was believed the clay basin supporting the Ashhurst Wetlands had cracked, allowing the water to drain away, and he realised there might be a connection.

Mr Callesen said there were layers of gravel underground, similar to the Hokowhitu Lagoon.

Palmerston North City Council leisure assets officer Brian Way said last week it was suspected the Hokowhitu Lagoon was draining because the earthquake had loosened the silt, sand and clay particles sealing the top of the gravel beneath it, creating channels for the water to flow out.

Mr Callesen said he would inform Horizons Regional Council.

However, Horizons says the earthquake may not be to blame for falling water levels in the region.

"Lake and lagoon levels could be dropping at this time of year due to little rain," science manager Jon Roygard said.

"We know the Ashhurst Domain wetland has drained away due to the earthquake and we have also received a report about the Hokowhitu Lagoon levels dropping."

Dr Roygard said in the case of the Hokowhitu Lagoon, it was a geotechnical problem and the council had referred Palmerston North City Council to a geotechnical engineer to determine what could be done at the lagoon.

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Gun owners warned to check security measures after Auckland gun collector had 15 weapons stolen.

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Gun owners are being warned to check security measures after thieves stole 15 weapons and at least 5000 rounds of shotgun ammunition from an Auckland gun collector's home.

Thieves stole the firearms, including semi-automatic weapons, in a break-in at the Bucklands Beach property, between 9am and 5pm yesterday, police say.

Police said it was a reminder to other gun owners that their weapons were a target for gangs and criminals involved in the drug trade.

Assistant Police Commissioner Malcolm Burgess said that in a small number of cases, such as yesterday's burglary, it was suspected people legally possessing restricted weapons were being targeted.

"We know gang members and other criminals like the prestige and reputation they get from illicit firearms," he said.

Police estimated more than 950 firearms were stolen in New Zealand each year, and in more than half of the cases more than one firearm was taken.

Intelligence collected by police showed a link between the illegal drugs trade and possession of firearms.

"We regularly receive reports of gang members using firearms for stand-over tactics and inter-gang rivalry, often as part of protecting illegal drug syndicates," Burgess said.

Yesterday's burglary comes on the eve of Operation Unification, an Australasian-wide two-week campaign aimed at encouraging the public to report firearms in the possession of unlicensed holders.

Burgess said there was a small sub-culture of people who thought it was fine for them to hold guns without a licence or appropriate security.

"Anyone who possesses firearms is required by law to hold a licence," he said.

"If you know that weapons are in the hands of people without a licence, we encourage you to report it for the safety of all those around you."

People could call Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111, or call their local police station.

Police said it was believed the owner of the stolen firearms in Buckland's Beach had complied with appropriate storage and security measures.

Investigations into the break-in are continuing.

A car number plate was found discarded at the property, along with a crow-bar and trolley jack.

The plate, EAL626, belonged to a car that was cancelled on December 28, 2013.

Firearms taken:

"Caesar Guerini" (brand)

1 x Forum 12 gauge field gun

1 x Forum 12 gauge sporter impact

1 x Elipse Evo 20 gauge field gun and another 28 gauge barrel

4 x semi automatic shotguns "Browning" (brand)

2 x 12 gauge, 2 shot semi automatic (1966)

1 x Berretta .22 rifle semi automatic (1966)

1 x Browning 20 gauge semi automatic 5 shot shotgun

1 x Winchester Martini Actim .22 collection gun

1 x Remington 30/30 lever action collectors gun

1 x Remington 1187 Camo 12 gauge semi automatic shotgun

1 x Parkerdale Safari 30-06 rifle

Police earlier said the suspects were believed to have travelled in a white truck to the Buckland's Beach house but now said that was not likely to be the case.

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Blockbusting wing Manu Vatuvei has some simple advice for the Warriors latest try-scoring sensation Glen Fisiiahi who will make his NRL debut on Saturday night – enjoy the occasion and just concentrate on the basics.

The 20-year-old, an outstanding Under-20s talent who has shone in the pre-season trials, has won the hotly contested right wing position for the season-opener against the Parramatta Eels at Eden Park.

Vatuvei, who overcome some struggles early in his career to be regarded as arguably the most dangerous wing in the competition, sees huge potential in Fisiiahi who scored 20 tries in 26 matches for the Under-20s last year as they won the Toyota Cup.

"Fish has done very, very well for the Juniors. Moving into our team is a big step and he has handled it really well," Vatuvei said.

"He has jumped into our trial matches with the same sort of form he has showed at the 20s, so that's really exciting for him and for us. I think the pre-season has been a good experience for him."

Asked how big an adjustment Saturday night will be for Fisiiahi, Vatuvei wasn't glossing over the size of the assignment, especially with the club hoping for around 35,000 fans to turn up to Eden Park.

"It will be tough for him, but that's just how it is," Vatuvei said.

"He's got to try to enjoy it and just take everything in. Do his basics ... do what he has to do in the game and everything will come along as normal."

Fisiiahi hadn't expected his NRL debut to come so soon and won his starting jersey from the likes of new signing Krisnan Inu, first team regular Kevin Locke and fellow youngster Bill Tupou who got plenty of game time last year.

"The last few months have been unbelievable - winning the NYC premiership with the Junior Warriors, playing for the Junior Kiwis and then joining the NRL squad for the off-season," Fisiiahi said.

"It's been amazing training with all the top players we have at the club and playing with them in the trials.

"And now I've been given the chance to play my first NRL match already. I didn't expect this just yet but I'm so excited and looking forward to running out onto Eden Park on Saturday night."

Warriors coach Ivan Cleary said Fisiiahi had demanded his place with form. He scored five tries in four trials.

"There was certainly plenty of competition for the right wing, as there was for positions right across the park," he said.

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"But Glen deserves this chance for this game. So far he has done everything we have expected of him."

Cleary said he had mixed emotions in naming his first-up team from a squad bristling with depth and talent. It had been a pleasure rewarding players and very hard leaving others out.

Imported backline utility Inu has missed out altogether and won't get the chance to line out against his old Eels club.

Feliti Mateo, another former Parramatta player and the star offseason signing, gets a start in the second row while Shaun Berrigan, the former Broncos utility signed from British club duties, is on the bench after Cleary decided to hand Joel Moon a start in the centres with Jerome Ropati.

While there had been much speculation around where Mateo, who can also play standoff, might fit in Cleary felt the second row was the best option for now. That allowed the Warriors to retain their tackle machine Micheal Luck in the No 13 jersey.

And it meant the promising combination of Brett Seymour and James Maloney get the starting assignment in the halves.

A few milestones beckon as the Warriors get set to start their 19th season in the NRL.

Prop Jacob Lillyman will play his 99th NRL match on a night when highly-successful Kiwi coach and former Warrior Stephen Kearney will have his first outing as an NRL head coach since being signed by the Eels.

Warriors vice-captain Luck starts his sixth season with the club just six games short of his 200th career appearance in the NRL while fullback Lance Hohaia is about to start his 10th campaign with the club, only the third player after Stacey Jones and Awen Guttenbeil to rack up 10 seasons with the Warriors.

New Zealand Warriors: 1 Lance Hohaia, 2 Glen Fisiiahi, 3 Joel Moon, 4 Jerome Ropati, 5 Manu Vatuvei, 6 James Maloney, 7 Brett Seymour, 8 Sam Rapira, 9 Aaron Heremaia, 10 Russell Packer, 11 Simon Mannering (captain), 12 Feleti Mateo, 13 Micheal Luck. Interchange: 14 Shaun Berrigan, 15 Jacob Lillyman, 16 Ben Matulino, 17 Lewis Brown, 18 Steve Rapira.

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The Crusaders confirmed this afternoon that centre Robbie Fruean has withdrawn from the remainder of the 2013 Super Rugby Season as he is set to undergo heart surgery.

The 24-year-old requires a further valve replacement as a result of rheumatic fever he suffered as 20 year old.

His cardiac function has been slowly deteriorating over the last 6 months and his specialist has recommended further surgery at this point.

"Robbie has been closely monitored over the past few months and in conjunction with his specialist team the decision has been made to withdraw him from the remainder of the season and to have surgery,'' Crusaders doctor Deb Robinson said. ''While Robbie is facing major surgery he is otherwise fit & healthy which should stand him in good stead for his recovery."Head coach Todd Blackadder is fully behind Fruean.

"Robbie is a true inspiration to us all. He is positive about his upcoming surgery and is looking forward to getting his recovery underway. The Crusaders will miss his presence on the field plus all the laughter he brings to the team off the field.

However we are fully behind Robbie and our thoughts and prayers are with him.''I have no doubt that if the surgery goes well Robbie will be back next year and will be a force to be reckoned with. He is a fantastic rugby player. I know it's been frustrating for him over the last few months that his body has not been able to perform to level he would like it to.''

Fruean's rugby career had to be put temporarily on hold in 2009 when his pancarditis was first identified following rheumatic fever and he underwent open-heart surgery.  It didn't hold him back for long though and in his debut season with Canterbury in 2010 ITM Cup he was the joint leading try scorer and tournament player of the year 2010 and 2012.

He was selected for the Crusaders in 2010 and has racked up 80 points in 61 matches.Fruean represented New Zealand in the 2007 Under 19's championship-winning side. He also won the IRB Under 19 Player of the Year 2007.

Following surgery Fruean is likely to be in hospital for four to five days. Doctors expect he will be able start gentle exercise within six weeks of surgery.

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The Government is now employing its own defence lawyers in Christchurch, after the launch of a new legal scheme was delayed by the earthquakes.

The Christchurch branch of the Public Defence Service was officially opened by Justice Ministry representatives on Monday, and will take up to half of criminal legal aid cases at the High Court and in district courts in Christchurch.

In 2009, the Government announced plans to expand the system of publicly salaried defence lawyers as a means of controlling spiralling legal aid costs.

Public Defence Service director Brendan Horsley said the branch, on the corner of Durham and Armagh streets, was the 10th and final step of a nationwide expansion.

"We had high hopes it would be open roughly in February 2011, but I'm sure some of you may be familiar with the building problems that we had around that time."

Justice Ministry chief executive Andrew Bridgman said the lawyers employed by the service provided "crucial" assistance to people who could not afford their own lawyer.

"You and other legal aid lawyers defend some of society's most vulnerable people, and some of society's most troubled people."

Courts Minister Chester Borrows acknowledged concerns about how the service would affect business at private law firms, but said there was enough business in major cities for all lawyers.

"We need to acknowledge that when money is tight, we need to follow what is an internationally recognised practice," he said.

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Christ Church Cathedral restoration campaigner Jim Anderton has dismissed the Archbishop of York's calls for a demolition and rebuild as unqualified and disappointing.

The Archbishop of York, Dr John Sentamu, is second only to the Archbishop of Canterbury in the Anglican Church hierarchy.

Sentamu visited the ruins of the cathedral yesterday, and said he advocated for demolition and a modern rebuild of the cathedral.

Anderton said he was disappointed Sentamu had ''parroted'' the opinion of the local church leadership.

''He's obviously been briefed by the Bishop [Victoria Matthews] who has similar views,'' Anderton said.

''He certainly hasn't seen our engineering reports.''

Anderton said he did not place much stock in Sentamu's opinion.

''He may well be a very fine cleric, but as far as I know he doesn't have any qualifications in seismic structural engineering.

''So what on earth is he talking about?''

Anderton said it was interesting Sentamu did not advocate for restoration when $44 million had recently been spent on the restoration of York Minster, in Sentamu's home diocese in England.

''He tells us his church is worth $44 million but ours is only worth a steel ball through it.''

Sentamu had urged the city to join forces with the local church leadership to decide on a contemporary replacement for the cathedral.

He said the church had been told there was nothing structurally sound about the Christ Church Cathedral, and the only option was demolition.

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As Super Rugby nears its 20th year, I wonder if it's time to shake things up and maybe take a step back from South Africa.

OPINION: I got up in the early hours of the morning at the weekend and watched my old Crusaders team battle the Cheetahs in Bloemfontein - but I'm sure I was in the minority.

I can't help thinking we might have lost a little interest in playing South African teams, and that ultimately the future of this competition might be more localised round time zones.

The provincial championship still has a pretty strong following, and if you're looking at what Australia and New Zealand needs, maybe it's that parochialism, that tribalism which is very important.

The logistics of involving South Africa are problematic - the travel and time difference - and maybe it would be better for all concerned just to play within our time zone and include teams from the Pacific Islands and Japan.

You could look at extending the number of New Zealand teams and move away from the regional concept, and back to provincial lines. That's the logical progression.

Maybe there could still be post- season involvement with South Africa, but their natural alignment is more with the UK and Europe, in the same time zone.

Any realignment, though, would need to be led by the IRB. If there's to be any form of consensus or consistency with a global international window, it has to come from them.

The New Zealand union supports continued involvement with South Africa but I wonder if money drives that. Where it's going to end up in 20 years' time is having competitions within time zones, and the sooner we get to that point the better for the development of the game.

New Zealand needs to align with a couple of big economies. It can't be the UK or France, so we have to look at helping grow the game in Australia. It's a biggish economy and there's a lot of money to be tapped into if it's done well. Japan would be the other natural alignment that could help with the finances.

You might have 20 teams in our time-zone - eight or so from New Zealand, maybe six in Australia and the rest from the islands and Japan.

Australia has a lot of potential for growth, especially with broadcasting revenue, and New Zealand needs to recognise this. At the moment rugby is the poor cousin of the winter codes but that could easily change.

I'd also like to see more full- scale tours. Lions tours are runaway successes and rugby needs to tap into the demand for these sort of events.

Again the IRB would need to lead the way, and maybe tours could alternate each year with the Rugby Championship. That would mean every four years a country could host a major tour, whether it's by the Springboks, Wallabies, All Blacks or Lions.

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The upshot would be New Zealand aligning closely with Australia and Japan, yet retaining links with South Africa and the UK through the touring structure and test matches.

Granted, greater minds than mine might need to hammer out the detail, but that's the way I see the game heading over the next couple of decades.

On a more immediate note, what a couple of cracking contests we have in store this week in Super Rugby with the Hurricanes hosting the Blues and the Crusaders visiting the Chiefs.

The Blues will have benefited from their week off. Sometimes it can be counter-productive if you've got good momentum, but with the Blues on a bit of a rollercoaster ride, the chance to reset and take stock would have been valuable.

Both teams need more consistency and need to manage the down times in games better. The Hurricanes have been starting well but once through that initial ferocity, they can go off the boil a little.

When you make a mistake you need to tighten up and not make another. The French call it a "cascade of errors", and the Canes and Blues have both been guilty of that at times this season.

It's not often we see the Crusaders go in as underdogs, but this week in Hamilton on the back of that big trip back from Africa they go in with nothing to lose.

To me that makes them a dangerous beast. This is the Crusaders' chance to make a real statement and they've got everything to play for.

The Chiefs certainly aren't invincible. They're confident but they haven't found that consistency in their game yet.

The key for the Crusaders will be how they manage their week. If they get that part of the formula right - less is best after the big flight home - then they will fancy their chances of an upset.

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DieselSide trails are more fun  Sucess!
Date Climbed: Feb 15, 2015

What a better day to spend Valentine's weekend than hiking around Sedona's tolerable spring Sun. We hiked up the standard trail and than looped around all of those buttes, trying various climbs here and there. Very enjoyable half day, exept for the parking which is very limited considering the numbers of visitors.
Posted May 17, 2016 11:02 am

hornjClimbed  Sucess!
Date Climbed: May 1, 2005
Standard trail, fun hike.
Posted Apr 8, 2013 7:21 pm

AndinistalocoSouth cathedral rock  Sucess!

Painfully awkward but not overly technical. Fantastic views of Sedona and the North rocks. Bring a register if you get a chance - the old one's in pieces....
Posted Nov 1, 2012 8:58 pm

lcarreauHere's the skinny ...  Sucess!
Date Climbed: Sep 16, 2009

The slender spire to the south (left side) coming up the Back 'O
Beyond Trail is called The Mace, and it is climbable.

I accompanied my wife up to The Pass or The Col. This is where a
faint trail goes down the opposite side toward Red Rock Crossing.

When you're up on top, there's a flat rock to sit down. Now,
look at a prominent crack between two spires to the SW, and
you'll see where somebody left their rope hanging.

Was that an SP-member's rope, or just a "loco-local's?"
Posted Sep 17, 2009 9:47 pm

POLUKOAmazing  Sucess!
Date Climbed: May 9, 2009

Went to the col? Amazing place and such a great view. I would love to figure out a way to the true top of one of them but it's is probably illegal and certainly lethal.
Posted Aug 13, 2009 12:32 pm

Peak BaguetteRoute Climbed: From Back O' Beyond Road, Date Climbed 12.31.05
Date Climbed: Dec 31, 2005

Peak Baguette

Did not summit (not sure if it is even possible), but went to what the locals refer to as the "top". Met amazing people from all over the world who came to ring in the new year with the "vortex". Bathed in a stunning desert sunset during my descent.
Posted Oct 3, 2006 4:41 am

Bill562Hike/scramble  Sucess!
Date Climbed: Apr 4, 2006

Quick hike with my daughter before heading back to Phoenix to fly home.
Posted Apr 6, 2006 5:54 pm

Holsti97Date Climbed: March 2005  Sucess!

Climbed with my wife Mary. The beauty of the red rocks of the Sedona area is equal to the beauty of Mount Rainier and the Grand Canyon. A wonderful respite from the cold Wisconsin winter.
Posted Dec 21, 2005 11:55 am

garchovRoute Climbed: standard route from Back-O-Beyond Rd Date Climbed: May 2003

This is not too steep for the most part but get an early start as the sun heats up this side in the afternoon. Well worth the effort for the views and the many scrambling options once at the end of the trail. The actual summits are not do-able unless you have a death wish but exploring this rock is always rewarding. I first hiked it in 1975.
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Dave DinnellRoute Climbed: South-North Traverse Date Climbed: Sept. 28, 2003  Sucess!

Dave Dinnell

Climbed with long time partner John Pfeiffer. Great fun. Approached via Cathedral Lakes and returned down Budd Creek. Knees getting a little gimpy and slow but still managed to avoid needing the headlamp.
Posted Jan 13, 2004 3:41 pm

asmrzRoute Climbed: The crest from the South to the North Tower Date Climbed: September 01, 2002  Sucess!

Shauna Hermes, Liz Morelli, Michael Gordon and I did this fantastic climb in one day from the car, parked at HWY 120. We started at 04:30 and came back at about 6:00PM, a long day. We climbed as two parties of two and had a grand time. Decided to rap off at the North Summit as we were slowing down and it was now 1:00 PM. This route is an incredible tribute to Ellen and Chuck Wilts, Honorary Members of our SCMA club. They pioneered the route in the 40s. Thank you Mrs. Wilts (if you happen to read this message)!
Posted Nov 14, 2002 3:43 pm

ronRoute Climbed: south to north traverse Date Climbed: sept.20, 2002  Sucess!
A classic indeed. Car to car in 10 hours, with 3 hours on the route. Take the first lead and run it to the start of the ridge. A true classic pitch with REALLY fun sections. Thought the last section to the summit was kinda wierd. A great day, one to never forget. The approach from Budd Lake is really enjoyable, with great views throughout. Take a light rack medium cams and a long rope.
Posted Sep 23, 2002 7:14 pm

Craig PeerRoute Climbed: South - North Date Climbed: 1976  Sucess!

Craig Peer

This really is a classic. I found an old Alcoa Aluminum carabiner at the base too!
Posted Sep 23, 2002 11:44 am

darinchadwickRoute Climbed: South to North Traverse Date Climbed: August 2001  Sucess!

Everybody loves the climbs they've done, but this really does stand out as being just an awful lof of fun. Did it from the car in a day. Didn't complete the whole traverse, but rapped from the summit.
Posted Mar 31, 2002 6:26 am

brandonRoute Climbed: South to North Traverse Date Climbed: September 2000  Sucess!

Man is this one of the climbs in the Sierra not to miss!!!! Fun climbing to get on the crest, fun pitches to get on the towers. And you'll never see anyone over there. I think the summit log goes back to the early 80's, and its a little book.
Posted Sep 18, 2001 4:20 pm

Bob BurdRoute Climbed: South to North Traverse Date Climbed: Sept 23, 2000  Sucess!

Bob Burd

This was the most exciting rock climb I've done yet in the Sierras. Better than Cathedral Peak's SE buttress, even. Nothing like a bunch of class 3 with exposure! Trip Report
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I've circled the area where we saw 5 Desert Bighorns silhouetted against the sky on the canyon rim. This is in an area called Big Horse Gap between the Big and Little Jack's Creek Wildernesses. If you click on the picture and zoom in you can see them better. Photo by Matt Durrant on October 17, 2009.

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Location: Auvergne, France, Europe

Lat/Lon: 45.12478°N / 2.67311°E

Object Title: Puy de la Tourte

County: Cantal

Activities: Hiking, Mountaineering

Season: Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter

Elevation: 5591 ft / 1704 m

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Puy de la Tourte (1.704m)
Puy de la Tourte

The Puy de la Tourte (1.704m) isn’t a very important mountain because is surrounded for other higher summits, but if you come to Pas de Peyrol to visit the famous Puy Mary (1.783m) probably you decide to climb it. The reason is very simple, in the Puy Mary you have a lot of people but in the other side of the road you can’t see anybody climbing this peak. The walk-up to the summit is short, about 30 minutes, and you can enjoy of the loneliness of a summit with great landscape out of the hordes of tourists. The landscape is greater from the summit of Puy Mary of course and it’s a good to climb both summits in about 2 hours.

Getting There

Puy de la Tourte (1.704m)
Pas de Peyrol

Clermont-Ferrand is an important city with highways from the main cities of France.
-North: A71 from Paris
-East: A72 from Lyon
-South: A20-A89 from Toulousse
-West: A89 from Bordeaux.

-From North (Clermont-Ferrand): A75 to exit 23 (Aurillac/Le Lioran). N-122 to Murat.
-From the South (Montpellier): A75 to exit 29 (Aurillac). D-909 and D-921 to St Flour and D-926 to Murat.

Pas de Peyrol

In the exit of Murat yo can see a lot of signals to Puy Mary and the col de Peyrol with a parking always with a lot of cars on summer. On winter the road is closed.

Red Tape

The park of Volcans d’Auvergne has rules about wildlife, camping,… the most important to mountaineers and hikers is the respect to the paths. Walking out of path is forbidden.
The col de Peyrol has always a lot of people on summer, you must have patience to park the car somedays, maybe the first hours of the day are the better time.
On winter season the road is closed but you can make ski cross-county to Pas de Peyrol and the summit.

The free-camping is forbidden.
You has a lot of lodges, campings and hotels in all the area around Le Mont-Doré. If you want to visit the Monts du Cantal in the same holidays maybe it's a good option the area around Issoire (less of 1h by car to both massifs) or Clermont-Ferrand.

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Residents of Sedona refer to these twin spires as "The Praying Nuns."

The buff-colored sandstone of Munds Mountain makes these sisters stand out,
but the true beauty of the sisters lies deep within their solid-rock souls.

"It's been a long time since I rock and rolled,
It's been a long time since I did the Stroll.
Ooh, let me get it back, let me get it back,
Let me get it back, baby, where I come from ..."

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Chris Andersen no longer the Heat's Birdman

The Birdman Era is over. The Miami Heat on Tuesday completed a three-team trade that sent center Chris Andersen to the Memphis Grizzlies in move that reduces the Heat's luxury tax.

In exchange for Andersen and two conditional future second-round picks that also were sent to the Grizzlies, the Heat obtained seldom-used backup point guard Brian Roberts from the Charlotte Hornets. In the other portion of the deal, the Hornets sent swingman P.J. Hairston and two second-round picks to the Grizzlies for guard Courtney Lee.

"Chris Andersen was absolutely essential in our 2013 NBA championship run," Heat President Pat Riley said in a statement. "We want to thank him for his contributions and we wish him nothing but the best. He will always be considered part of the Heat family."

Roberts is expected to slot in as the Heat's third-string point guard, a role Beno Udrih held before moving up behind starting point guard Goran Dragic when guard Tyler Johnson was lost to shoulder surgery. Udrih was acquired earlier in the season from the Grizzlies for point guard Mario Chalmers, in a November trade that also reduced the Heat's liability against the luxury tax.

"Brian Roberts," Riley said, "has been on our radar and we felt it was important to solidify our point guard position due to the injury of Tyler Johnson. We feel like we did that with the addition of Roberts."

Johnson is not expected back until late in the season, if at all in 2015-16.

The difference between the salaries of Andersen and Roberts trims more than $2 million from the Heat's payroll.

Both Andersen and Roberts are in the final years of their contracts.

Andersen, a fan favorite at AmericanAirlines Arena for his colorful tattoos and personality, joined the Heat in the middle of the 2012-13 season, winning a championship that season alongside LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh. His role had been lessened in recent seasons due to injury and the emergence of center Hassan Whiteside and acquisition of power forward Josh McRoberts.

Andersen had appeared in only seven games this season for the Heat, for a total of 36 minutes. He had not played since Jan. 13 because of what the Heat had listed as a sore left knee.

Andersen could potentially find minutes with the Grizzlies, who recently lost center Marc Gasol for the season with a foot injury.

Roberts, 30, is a journeyman point guard who has averaged just 11.1 minutes per game this season, although he could help upgrade the Heat's poor 3-point shooting.

Tuesday's tax savings would amount to roughly $6 million for the Heat when factoring in the luxury-tax multiplier.

The Heat still stand roughly $3.5 million over the luxury-tax line, with the NBA trading deadline at 3 p.m. Thursday.

Andersen appeared in 181 games for the Heat, starting 21, averaging 5.6 points, 4.7 rebounds and 1.13 blocked shots in an average of 17.6 minutes, while shooting .605 from the field.

Roberts, in his fourth NBA season, has appeared in 252 career NBA games, averaging 7.4 points, 2.6 assists and 1.5 rebounds in an average of 18.5 minutes, while shooting .412 percent from the field and .352 on 3-pointers. Follow him at or

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Supermarket Accident Claims

If you have had an accident in a supermarket within the past three years, you could be entitled to make a personal injury compensation claim against the supermarket. Providing the supermarket accident was not your fault, and you have suffered a personal injury as a result of the supermarket accident, you may be entitled to compensation for your injuries.

All supermarkets have a duty of care to ensure people are safe whilst shopping in their supermarkets. This is the case whether your supermarket accident happened in ASDA, Sainsburys, Tesco, Morrisons, Aldi, Lidl, Waitrose, Marks & Spencer or a local independent supermarket.

Unfortunately not all supermarket accidents can be avoided.  Therefore in some circumstances a supermarket may have a defence to a supermarket accident compensation claim. For example, most large supermarkets should have a system to carry out regular checks, clean up any spillages, and even keep a written record of their cleaning program. If the supermarket can prove that the area had been inspected shortly before the accident happened, they may have a successful defence to your supermarket accident claim.

If you are injured in a supermarket accident which was not your fault, you should contact a personal injury solicitor to see if you are entitled to make a no win no fee supermarket accident compensation claim. Our personal injury solicitor specialise in supermarket accident claims and work on a no win no fee basis. This means you can start your supermarket accident claim with no risk and no cost, giving you complete peace of mind.

What to do if you have an accident in a supermarket

As with most personal injury compensation claims, there are a number of steps you should take to help you make a no win no fee supermarket accident claim.

  • Record your accident in the supermarket accident book – If you are unfortunate to have an accident in a supermarket, it is important that you report the accident to the supermarket. All supermarkets should have an accident book, and a report of your supermarket accident should be filled out in this accident book.
  • Record details of any witnesses – If there are any witnesses to your supermarket accident, it is a good idea to try to make a note of their name and telephone number. If you do go on to make a supermarket accident claim, a witness can be used to verify your supermarket accident.
  • Take photographs of the scene – Although it may not always be possible, if you are involved in an accident in a supermarket, photographs make excellent evidence . Therefore if you slip on a puddle of water or trip over a damaged display unit, taking photos of the area on a mobile phone will act as good evidence if you decide to make a supermarket accident compensation claim.
  • Seek medical advice – In order to make a personal injury claim for a supermarket accident you must seek medical advice for your injuries. It is therefore important that you visit your GP or the hospital as soon as possible.

Examples of Supermarket Accident Compensation Claims

  • Mr A slipped on a wet floor in a Tesco supermarket. The floor in Tesco had been cleaned, but the Tesco employee had failed to place a warning sign in the area. The accident was recorded in the accident book at Tesco and was witnessed by several other shoppers. Mr A visited his local hospital where he was diagnosed with a fractured arm.
  • Miss B was shopping in her local ASDA supermarket when she slipped on some grapes that had been  dropped on the floor. Miss B reported the supermarket accident to the ASDA store manager. After receiving treatment from the first aider in ASDA, an ambulance had to be called. Miss B was taken to hospital with a back injury and had to undergo a course of physio.
  • Mrs C slipped on a wet floor while shopping in Sainsburys. It had been raining heavily outside and people had walked water into the Sainsburys supermarket. There were no mats in the entrance and there were no wet floor signs to warn people about the wet floor.
  • Mr D is shopping in his local Morrisons when an advertising sign hanging from the ceiling in Morrisons fell on top of his head. Mr D was knocked unconscious and required an ambulance to take him to hospital from Morrisons. As a result of the supermarket accident, Mr D required stitches and was left with a scar on his forehead.


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Porteous claims Proudfoot at SA Amateur

South Africa’s top amateur golfer Haydn Porteous issued a stern warning to his contemporaries when he clinched the prestigious Proudfoot Trophy with an emphatic five stroke victory at the Sanlam SA Amateur Championship on Monday.

The overnight leader shot a four-under-par 68 at Country Club Johannesburg’s Rocklands course to win the 36-hole Stroke Play Qualifier with a winning score of 10-under-par 134.

Southern Cape’s Jovan Rebula fired a five under 67 to finish joint second with East London’s Jade Buitendag (70), former professional Gerlou Roux from the Western Province (70) and England’s Toby Tree, who returned a 72.

Some of South Africa’s most illustrious golfers have lifted the coveted trophy, including four-time Major winner Ernie Els, two-time US Open champion Retief Goosen, 2008 Masters champion Trevor Immelman and six-time European Tour winner, Richard Sterne.

Porteous was delighted to add his name to this illustrious list of former winners, but the 18-year-old was quick to warn that the real tournament only starts on Tuesday.

“It’s a real honour to win this trophy,” he said. “I’ve been working hard in the last few months to get my game to the next level and it started paying off at the recent Ten Nations Cup. But the hard work starts tomorrow because nothing is guaranteed in match play.

The victory follows less than two weeks after Porteous successfully defended his SA Stroke Play title at Oubaai Golf Club. The rising star also won the season-opening Prince’s Grant Invitational and posted top fives finishes in the KwaZulu-Natal Open and Gauteng North Open.

“I think I putted better in the first round but I only missed one fairway today and that will be key to the match play,” said Porteous.

The Modderfontein golfer birdied the 12th and 13th holes to turn in two-under and, after dropping his only shot of the day at the par-three fourth, knocked in three more birdies at the fifth, seventh and ninth for his 68.

The Sanlam SA Amateur is all about match play, which starts in earnest on Tuesday and ends with a 36-hole final on Friday.

Porteous said he is wary of quite a few players, including Ekurhuleni’s Christiaan Bezuidenhout.

“I played with Chris for two days. He shot 78 in the first round, but he hit back with a 66 in the second and if he keeps that kind of form going, he will be hard to beat.

“Jovan Rebula is just 15 but he has a great match play record and lots of experience, having played for the Southern Cape in the SA Inter-Provincial. So, too, Jade Buitendag, who played at No 2 for Border at the IPT.

“And then there is Toby, who is a great competitor and 12 Scots who will be looking to make it three-in-a-row. I’m going into the match play with a bit of confidence, but you can’t discount anyone. It’s back to the drawing board for all of us; we are all starting on a clean slate.”

Only the top 64 players from the Stroke Play Qualifier advance to the match play stage, however, the final spot will have to be decided on Tuesday morning as darkness called for a suspension in the play-off between CCJ’s Louis Taylor and Johan Germishuys from Strand.

The qualifiers will play 18 holes on Tuesday, followed by 18 holes in the morning and afternoon of Wednesday and Thursday respectively. The final will be decided over 36 holes on Friday.

134 - Haydn Porteous (66, 68)

139 - Jovan Rebula (72, 67), Jade Buitendag (69, 70), Gerlou Roux (69, 70), Toby Tree ENG (67, 72)

140 - Conway Kunneke (73, 67), Ewan Scott (71, 69)

141 - Scott Crichton SCO (69, 72)

142 - Hendrikus Stoop (75, 67), Graham Gordon (74, 68), Ryan Lane (72, 70), Matthew Spacey (72, 70), Eddie Taylor (71, 71), Gareth Clements (71, 71), Jamie Savage SCO (71, 71), Bryce Bibby (69, 73), Philip Kruse (68, 74), Andrew Light (67, 75)

143 - Jason Viljoen (77, 66), Kyle McClatchie (74, 69), Dino De Abreu (72, 71), Callum Mowat (72, 71), Jason Froneman (71, 72), Thriston Lawrence (71, 72), N J Arnoldi (70, 73)

144 - Christiaan Bezuidenhout (78, 66), Nathan Scott (75, 69), Ross Bell (73, 71), Keegan De Lange (72, 72), Leorin Pillay (71, 73), Aubrey Beckley (71, 73), Hennie Du Plessis (70, 74)

145 - Graeme Robertson SCO (75, 70), Darin De Smidt (74, 71), Ruan Botha (74, 71), Fraser McKenna SCO (72, 73), Teaghan Gauche (72, 73)

146 - Werner Ferreira (75, 71), Gideon Van der Vyver (73, 73), Ryan Dreyer (73, 73), Bevan Mac Donald (73, 73), Gregory Royston (72, 74), Craig Lindsay-Smith (70, 76)

147 - Carlo O’Reilly (77, 70), Shane Martin (74, 73), Tertius Van Den Berg (74, 73), Werner Van Niekerk (74, 73), James Du Preez (74, 73), Adam Dunton (73, 74), Zander Lombard (73, 74)

148 - Ruben Coetzer (77, 71), Stephen Allen (76, 72), Tristen Strydom (75, 73), Teagan Moore (72, 76), Thys Swart (72, 76)

149 - Jason Rossiter (76, 73), Murray Smit (75, 74), Jarred Miltz (75, 74), Dean Martin (75, 74), Andrew Carlsson (73, 76), Dylan Naidoo (73, 76), Pieter Marais (72, 77)

150 - Connor O’Neil SCO (74, 76),

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