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September 11 Remembered

The Rev. Lowell E. Grisham, Rector
St. Paul’s Episcopal Church, Fayetteville, Ark.
September 11, 2011
13 Pentecost
Proper 19, Year A

(Matthew 18:21-35) – Peter came and said to Jesus, “Lord, if another member of the church sins against me, how often should I forgive? As many as seven times?” Jesus said to him, “Not seven times, but, I tell you, seventy-seven times.

“For this reason the kingdom of heaven may be compared to a king who wished to settle accounts with his slaves. When he began the reckoning, one who owed him ten thousand talents was brought to him; and, as he could not pay, his lord ordered him to be sold, together with his wife and children and all his possessions, and payment to be made. So the slave fell on his knees before him, saying, `Have patience with me, and I will pay you everything.’ And out of pity for him, the lord of that slave released him and forgave him the debt. But that same slave, as he went out, came upon one of his fellow slaves who owed him a hundred denarii; and seizing him by the throat, he said, `Pay what you owe.’ Then his fellow slave fell down and pleaded with him, `Have patience with me, and I will pay you.’ But he refused; then he went and threw him into prison until he would pay the debt. When his fellow slaves saw what had happened, they were greatly distressed, and they went and reported to their lord all that had taken place. Then his lord summoned him and said to him, `You wicked slave! I forgave you all that debt because you pleaded with me. Should you not have had mercy on your fellow slave, as I had mercy on you?’ And in anger his lord handed him over to be tortured until he would pay his entire debt. So my heavenly Father will also do to every one of you, if you do not forgive your brother or sister from your heart.”

Ten years ago on the Sunday after the September 11 attacks, we brought our own sense of trauma into this holy place, to offer our anguish before God – to remind ourselves that in the cross of Jesus we see the presence of God in our most extreme human suffering and evil. I said that morning, “Whenever evil appears to triumph over innocence, there is Jesus the holy victim. Whenever human beings suffer physical pain or spiritual abandonment, there is Jesus the man on the cross. Whenever people know the terror of certain and unavoidable death, there is Jesus the crucified one. God knows our plight. God is with us.”

I invited you to take your memories of that week and to see everything “through the reality of the cross. … See Jesus there, protecting, guarding, loving. … See God’s divine light surrounding (everyone) in an eternal, protective love that is more powerful than death.” I asked us to “look beyond the superficial material image of earthly terror, and see the spiritual reality that is present and strong to save. Believe that the resurrection of Easter is already present in our Good Fridays.”

At that time, we had not yet heard many of the inspiring stories that would emerge from Ground Zero. The South Tower of the World Trade Center came down just a few feet from Trinity Episcopal Church. A friend and former Arkansan, the Rev. Stewart Hoke was inside the old church. After the noise and shaking stopped from the first tower’s fall, Stewart looked at the congregation gathered there in the dust, and he recited the Beatitudes. Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted. Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth. Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled. Blessed are the merciful, for they will receive mercy. Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God. Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God, and so forth. An observer said, “It was one of the most powerful things I’ve ever encountered. That was the response of faith. It wasn’t the reaction to run, it wasn’t the reaction to react violently, or panic. It was very meaningful.”

Our friend Fred Burnham was nearby in another part of the Trinity Church complex. He has since visited us twice to tell about his experience that day of a profound circle of infinite love and an unbounded interrelatedness of Being that transformed him as he huddled in the smoky dark just a few feet away from the falling buildings. In the months that followed, he marveled at the outpouring of compassion that found a place of creative expression and self-organizing at St. Paul’s Chapel, there at Ground Zero. Groups from our congregation traveled twice to serve in that place, which has become a shrine to healing and restoration. For those who have eyes, God has been profoundly present through it all.

Here in Fayetteville, as part of our response we invited a teacher from the Muslim community to spend several Sunday mornings with us sharing us about Islam. I thought it was very instructive and helpful. I found myself humbled, hearing witness about the Muslim discipline of five rituals of daily prayer and of a month of fasting; the ethos of surrender to God and the commitment to practices of charity that are at the heart of Islam.

We shared prayer with our Muslim neighbors. Who could forget the evening when they joined us in the Parish Hall where Muslims prayed the prayers for the end of the Ramadan fast and Christians prayed our Evening Office, then we shared an incredible feast. Some of the best food and smells we’ve ever had in that wonderful space. Somehow it tickled my funny-bone that from our Parish Hall, the direction one kneels in order to face Mecca is directly toward First Baptist Church.

We’ve made a lot of friends since September 11. A number of us participate in various University programs of cultural dialogue. It is not unusual for a St. Paul’s host family to bring their Muslim guests to church here on Sunday morning, where I believe they find welcome, hospitality and respect.

Since 9-11 we’ve also heard stories of acts of hostility toward Muslims and toward people who appeared to be of Middle Eastern descent. The apostle Paul speaks in today’s reading an invitation to inclusiveness and reconciliation when people are divided by custom and by religious beliefs. “Let all be fully convinced in their own minds,” he says. Follow your conscience, and allow others to follow theirs. “Why do you pass judgment on your brother or sister?” Paul asks. “Or why do you despise your brother or sister? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God.”

In today’s Gospel, Peter asks Jesus about the boundaries of forgiveness. Jesus gives Peter an unsettling answer. Jesus calls us to be a radically forgiving people.

There is still much forgiving, healing and reconciling to do. I know I was heartbroken that our leaders decided to focus their response by invading and occupying Iraq, but I also recognize I was in a small 7% minority of Americans opposing the war at that time. I still have my own work of forgiveness to embrace, as I grieve what looked like a lost opportunity for a more peaceful and creative response.

How heartening it is now to see the yearning for freedom rising again in the Middle East in the aspirations of today’s Arab Spring. There is much to be hopeful about.

And yet the world remains an unpredictable and conflicted place. It has always been so.

In some way, what we experienced in the terrorist attacks of 9/11 is a familiar and continuing reality for so many in other parts of the world. Now we know a little better how they feel.

I am thankful for the intelligence services, who do the hard work of penetrating the circles of organized crime. They’ve done a good job to undermine Al-Qaeda and to protect innocents everywhere.

I am thankful for those who serve in the military. As we remember and memorialize those who died on 9-11, and others whose lives were severely marked on that day, we also remember our military families, especially those who have served in combat – those who have suffered; those who have died; those who still suffer and die daily. We also see God’s divine light with them, surrounding them in an eternal, protective love that is more powerful than death.

Ten years ago I said, “The one battle that you and I can engage in against the unseen enemy that has attacked our people, is for us to refuse to let them damage our souls and our lives. We must refuse to let their evil have power over us. We must continue to be the people we were created to be B loving, compassionate, and strong.” That is still our calling.

Every decade brings new challenges. What can we learn from the previous decade? I think we can learn from Steward Hoke and from Fred Burnham, and from the healing outpouring of compassion that characterized the work at St. Paul’s Chapel. How can we bring that kind of spirit and creativity to the new challenges of 2011? I think we can learn from our own acts of meeting and befriending the other.

In this coming decade, how can we become more loving, more related, more generous?

If we are to solve the considerable challenges that face us on September 11, 2011, we will need to be more deeply in touch with the reality of infinite love and the unbounded interrelationship of Being that is God’s presence in our world. We will need to remember and embrace the Beatitudes. We will need to forgive. We will need to reach out to the stranger, the other. We will need to organize on behalf of generosity and healing and community. The same strengths and virtues that brought health and healing to us a decade ago are the qualities we need for this moment and its challenges.

We have learned from 9/11. We have learned that we always do better as a people when we function out of hope rather than fear, out of creativity rather than reactivity, out of interrelatedness rather than division. Let us claim that knowledge, and go do the work of rebuilding that we need to do today.


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Abigail Ayala Romero (MA) from Quito, Ecuador, holds a BMus in Opera Performance from the University of British Columbia. Abigail also studied Philosophy and Languages at the Pontificia Universidad Católica del Ecuador. She is interested in applied ethnomusicology involving the topics of folklore, Latin American politics, decolonization, and global economics; more specifically in the festival of Inti Raymi celebrated by members of the Kichwa community at Otavalo, Ecuador. Abigail is the co-founder and vice president of a non-profit organization in Ecuador called the Yanapana Project whose mission is to dismantle neo-colonial socio-economic patterns of wealth inequality by providing essential services to marginalized indigenous communities in Ecuador.

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Brad DeMatteo’s (PhD) research focuses on music and the transmission of intergenerational memory in the Cambodian American diaspora. He holds a BA in music from Bennington College and an MA in ethnomusicology from Tufts University. Based on fieldwork in Lowell, Massachusetts––home to the second largest Cambodian community outside of Cambodia––and in Phnom Penh, Cambodia, Brad’s master’s thesis “Flowing Water Makes Me Never Forget: Memories of Khmer Pop Music in the Cambodian American Diaspora” explores musical memory as a means of reconstructing history and identity in a post-genocide diasporic community. Additionally, Brad is a bassist and composer influenced by experimental music and the African American free jazz movement. The foundations of his approach to music-making and research are steeped in the philosophy of his mentor, jazz drummer and scientist, Milford Graves.

Chris Greencorn (MA) holds a BA in History and Music from St. Francis Xavier University in Nova Scotia. His research interests include: sound studies, historical and applied ethnomusicology, and decolonizing methodologies. Chris focuses geographically on present-day Eastern Canada, and its connections to much of the Atlantic world.

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Hamidreza Salehyar (PhD) explores various forms of musical expression in the urban areas of Central Iran. His doctoral research concerns the mourning rituals of Muharram in present-day Tehran, investigating relations between social memories and cultural identities, as negotiated through changing forms of these musical practices. While focusing on religious music, he is also interested in the ways the discourses of modernity and globalization have conditioned Iranian musicians’ conceptions of Iranian classical music. His MA thesis in Ethnomusicology from the University of Alberta (2015) examined how multiple articulations of Iranian nationalism, manifested in discourses on Iranian classical music, encouraged the development of revivalist ideas in pre-1979 musical society. His academic research also benefits from his training in Iranian classical music under prominent Iranian master-musicians. He plays the tar, holding a BMus in Iranian Instrument Performance from the University of Art in Tehran.

Jack Harrison (PhD) holds a BA in Music from the University of Cambridge and an MMus in Advanced Musical Studies from Royal Holloway, University of London. His PhD research explores concepts of music and musicality in equestrian freestyle dressage and canine heelwork to music in the UK, and focusses on the significance of the human-animal boundary to both human-animal and human-human processes of social bonding in these sports. Jack also enjoys performing—he began learning the erhu while working towards his masters and has been tap dancing for over ten years.

Jahred R. Warkentin (MA) is a first-year Master’s student in Ethnomusicology. His research interests include the effects of trauma, genocide, and modernization from the aftermath of the Killing Fields and Khmer Rouge on traditional Khmer/Cambodian music. Particularly he wishes to archive and rediscover unpopular oral traditions lost to the decimation of genocide. He holds a BMus in Composition from the University of Toronto and is an active composer and guitarist in the Toronto contemporary music scene.

Keegan Manson-Curry (PhD) is interested in music, sound, and listening as ways of understanding everyday life along the Wolastoq/Fleuve Saint-Jean/St. John River in New Brunswick, Canada. In particular, his research looks at the ways that local acoustemologies (Indigenous, Anglophone, Francophone, etc.) intersect and conflict with each together to influence understandings of sensory experience. He is especially focused on approaching research from an applied perspective that works to include contributors in the creation, dissemination, and implementation of knowledge. Keegan holds an MA in Ethnomusicology from the University of Toronto, a BA (Honours) in Comparative Cultural Studies from the University of New Brunswick, and a Certificate in Jazz Performance from Humber College.

Kristen Graves (PhD) is interested in issues of sound studies and everyday listening, as well as how virtuosic listening intersects with issues of Indigeneity, human rights, and communication about sound. Studying with a community that works in the garbage dump of Oaxaca, Mexico, Kristen’s Connaught-funded research will explore how this community has built and actively exchanges sound knowledge that has evolved through environmental changes, and has been passed down through generations of workers. Kristen earned her Master’s Degree in Interdisciplinary Studies from New York University in 2018, where she researched the empowering impact of teaching songwriting to marginalized youth. She is also an internationally touring folk singer who has performed with legends Pete Seeger, Harry Belafonte, and Peter Yarrow; and she helped build and is still closely involved with the non-profit organization Simply Smiles, which serves Indigenous children and families. (Kristen’s website)

Nadia Younan (PhD) is a Canadian-Assyrian-Italian. Her research on the intersections of collective memory, trauma, and resilience in Assyrian music and dance expressions is supported by the Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council of Canada. Nadia holds a Master of Arts, Ethnomusicology (York University, 2013), and a Bachelor of Fine Arts, Specialized Honours in Music (York University, 2011). Her multi-sited, ethnographic fieldwork also examines the transnational network of Assyrians in diaspora, and the significance of expressive culture under circumstances of exile and displacement.

Nate Renner‘s (PhD) research concerns the contemporary and traditional music and dance of Japan’s indigenous Ainu people. For years he studied relationships between music and everyday speech, which he believes are available to people in the formation and expression of identity. More recently — after one year of fieldwork with Ainu people in Hokkaido, Japan — Nate shifted his focus to include relationships between music and the physical environment. Some of the questions Nate ponders are: Can certain ontologies of music and ways of conceptualizing sound engender particular relationships with the environment? Can the music of contemporary indigenous peoples like the Ainu inform the institutions of colonial states on issues such as the environment, law, and politics?

Nick Goode’s (PhD) research focuses on relations between space and sociality in public and private, and the ways in which music can reconfigure and contest those relations. His master’s thesis (Oxford) explored these issues in the context of mobile clubbing and similarly headphone-based performances, and he aims to further this work by studying guangchangwu or public square dancing in urban spaces in China. He has previously studied music and sound in more divergent contexts, having investigated spiritual possession in musical performance, the sound of the War in Afghanistan on film, and the political ecologies imagined by Björk’s multimedia stage shows.

Nil Basdurak (PhD) approaches sound as both mediated by macro-politics of the nation-state and mediating the micro-politics of everyday. Her research investigates audible traces of microaggressions, identity conflicts, and power negotiations that take place daily in the socio-political geography of Istanbul, Turkey. Explicitly centered on Istanbul’s Beyoğlu district, her research seeks to comprehend typically overlooked correlations between adjustments and readjustments of socio-economic, cultural, and political life and sonic-spatial transformations of urban space within the last two decades. Nil regularly presents her work at the meetings of the Society for Ethnomusicology, the British Forum for Ethnomusicology, and the Canadian Society for Traditional Music, among others. In 2019, with her paper titled “The Little Buskers of Istanbul: Ethico-political Soundscape of Children’s Street Labour,” she was awarded an honorable mention for the Charles Seeger Prize of the Society for Ethnomusicology. Her article titled “The Soundscape of Islamic Populism: Auditory Publics, Silences and the Myth of Democracy” was published in The Sound Effects: An Interdisciplinary Journal of Sound and Sound Experience in 2019.

Queveen Arcedo (MA) holds a B.Mus. in Piano Performance from the University of Manitoba and is currently a first-year MA student in the Department of Ethnomusicology. Queveen is a student of the House of Gongs, practicing kulintang music, and is a former production member of Magdaragat Philippines Inc. His area of research focuses on indigenous cultures of the Philippines, specifically, but not limited to, kulintang music of Maguindanao. Queveen is interested in how movement in ritual, dance and/or martial arts intersect with colonial resistance and identity.

Sangah Lee (PhD) holds a BA in Korean music from Ewha Womans University (South Korea) and a MA in ethnomusicology from University of Hawai’i at Mānoa. Her research interests include music and violence, protest, and social critique, particularly of East Asian societies. In her MA thesis, she explored the role of p’ansori as social critique and counter-public sphere in South Korea’s political scenes, by linking to a conscious use of tragic ethos and vulgarity ascribed to this genre. Her current research examines the power, efficacy, and reshaping of traditional vocal music in socio-political movements both in Korea and its diaspora. As a Korean music specialist, she has been actively engaged in performances, workshops and talks on p’ansori, gayaguem, and samulnori. She also enjoys playing piano and ukulele.

Sepideh Raissadat (PhD) focuses her research on how the vocal pedagogy in Iran has evolved through major contemporary socio-political events, with a particular interest in the situation of female vocalists. Her approach is deeply related to her personal experience. As a Persian classical vocalist and musician, Sepideh began her recording career at the age of 18. She was the first female vocalist to have a solo public performance in Iran (March 2000), which is no small feat considering singing in public has been forbidden for women in her native Iran since the 1979 revolution. Sepideh has had numerous performances in Europe and North America and has garnered many invitations by prestigious institutions, including UNESCO, the Vatican and international media such as BBC (watch a BBC Persian documentary here) and RAI. She studied with many of the greats of the Persian classical music — such as Parisa, P. Meshkatian and M.R. Lotfi — and holds a B.Mus degree from the University of Bologna and an MA in Ethnomusicology from the University of Toronto.

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No Snacks, no sweets, no seconds. Except on Days that start with S. Too simple for you? Simple is why it works. Look here for questions, introductions, support, success stories.

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Okay...so i'm back because...

Post by Jamie » Sun May 18, 2008 9:45 pm

when i was NOS-ing i was losing weight and in control of my cravings...but somehow i just stopped...UGH :roll:

2nd time is a charm :D

is THIS okay...not the healthiest menu but i am kinda 'detoxing' from ALL the horrible food i put in my body lately:

L-3 crunchy tacos w/cheese

soon i will eat better...but i am just wondering if you can REALLY eat whatever for these 3 meals...

am i suppose to eat in moderation or what?? LOL

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Post by Airen08 » Sun May 18, 2008 9:49 pm

Hi and Welcome Back!

Personally, I would binge using Slim Fast as one of my meals. But, if you can do slim fast and not feel hungry until your next meal...then that's fine. I just know that I would be dying to snack and eventually binge at night if that's all I had.

Yes - just eat 3 balanced meals in moderation. It's just that simple.

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Post by Jamie » Sun May 18, 2008 10:30 pm

well if i replace just one meal i am okay on slimfast....but just today i am having 2 because of all the binge episodes earlier in the week :?

thanks for replying :D

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Post by kccc » Sun May 18, 2008 11:36 pm

I'm an advocate of "real food" rather than Slimfast and similar things. To me, eating something that isn't sustaining is a set-up for failure. I think you'd be much better off with a healthy meal.

But as has been noted elsewhere in the forum, every person makes different choices according to what works for them. And it's technically within the "rules," if that's what you wanted to know.

Welcome back, and best wishes.

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Post by Jamie » Sun May 18, 2008 11:41 pm

i agree about the 'real' food message...but slimfast is easy for me to use when i am super busy with my baby who is 6 months old, and like i said before, i am only having 2 shakes today because my body is 'recovering' from me being a glutton ALL week. Usually i will have 1 shake for breakfast, however if i so choose to eat a 'real' food breakfast it's not like i will tell myself 'no'.

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Post by NoelFigart » Sun May 18, 2008 11:44 pm

Another fan of "real food" here.

KCCC is right, it's technically okay. I won't say I've never had a protein shake in lieu of a meal, but I try real, REAL hard to eat an honest to goodness meal a vast majority of the time.

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Post by LiterBiter10 » Mon May 19, 2008 8:45 pm

Who am I to say what you should and shouldn't eat? That's the whole point of this, isn't it? That you get to eat what you want as long as it isn't an "S"? Personally, I chose to try this program because I actually get to EAT. To me, drinking a meal would make me feel deprived. I refuse to feel that anymore. Whatever works for you!

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Post by Dawn » Mon May 19, 2008 10:51 pm

I think you should do whatever works for you, but don't forget this plan is about habits and building good ones. Is drinking 2 meals a day the habit you are hoping to build? If so, great. But if not, then why not just do something that you can make a habit everyday. I find myself slipping back into that "gotta do something that works quick" mentality. That always burns you out. I think Slim Fast is a good default meal so you don't reach for something you know should be for an S day, but I think it would be best if you start doing what you plan to still be doing in 5 years from now.

I have only lost 5 pounds in 3 months but normally I would be looking at gaining and losing that same 5 pounds over and over in the course of the next year or so. But with No-S I should continue to slowly lose this weight and with any luck I will 15 pounds thinner in a year or so from when I started. So much better than starting at square one - AGAIN!

Excitement is great, but don't let yours lead you making this complicated. You will be glad you decided to go with the "do it right" way rather than the "do it fast" way.

Good luck!!!

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Post by cornelia » Tue May 20, 2008 5:00 pm

I have been having the old thoughts again this week. Thinking I need to do something that works faster. But that puts me back into the whole ugly "diet distress mess" again. I don't want to do that. This works perfectly with my lifesyle and it is very do-able. We seem to be spending a lot of time disecting every aspect of this way of eating and justifying our decision to eat the No S way. We would probably be more productive if spent more time talking about recipies and meal planning.

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Post by Kathi » Wed May 21, 2008 2:33 am

I tried the SlimFast diet twice in the past six months. I found that a) one can didn't hold me until the next meal and b) my sugar cravings went through the roof. YMMV.

The main reason I tried SlimFast was similar to yours: I have three very young kids and NO time to prepare special diet meals for myself. It's a miracle if I even sit down once during a meal at my house. But the nice thing about No-S is that the meal can be composed of anything that fits on one plate (barring sweets), so you can make them as simple and portable as you want. Sandwiches, bagels, cheese sticks, grapes, etc., might work well and probably be far more filling.

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Post by FarmerHal » Wed May 21, 2008 12:47 pm

Welcome back.

Remember to persevere with your N days. If you mess up and have a bite or two of a snack, fine, it's a red day, but stop yourself there (and don't binge becuase you figured you screwed it up, might as well have some more!) and get right back on wiht your plate at the next meal.

Even with many screw ups on my part, even week-long binges, I've lost and kept off (and need to lose more) 30lbs.

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went on vacation and lost weight

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went on vacation and lost weight

Post by feelgood » Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:01 am

First time that ever happened. But I've been doing No-s for 12 weeks (I think-it's getting so that I'm losing track) and the habits are very strong. AND I went to an all-inclusive resort in Mexico! All food, drinks (including alcohol) and snacks were included. But I just did my 3 meals a day, and on the weekend had a bit of dessert. (I did have a Pina Coloda every day, though. My one indulgence, and I reallly enjoyed it!!!) I know I could have done a bit more because of vacation, but I really didn't want to. I wasn't white-knuckling it. Thing is, with No-s, you're not stocking up for the famine (i.e. diet) and you can eat that food anytime, so why overindulge?
This is what I consider real freedom. I can go on vacation without either depriving myself or gaining a lot of weight. In fact, I lost 2 pounds, which was nice because I'd plateaued for 5 weeks and was ready for a loss.

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Post by blueskighs » Thu Jul 10, 2008 6:47 pm

that is great SUCCESS ... to be able to take your vacation and thoroughly ENJOY it!

and the 2 pounds down ... that is truly a great BONUS!

thank you for sharing!

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Post by Dawn » Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:11 pm

Did I ever tell you that you are my hero? Well, you are. As a matter of fact you are the wind beneath my wings!!

Seriously awesome. That's exactly how it should work.

I am going through a plateau right now and your story has inspired me. I want to feel that kind of freedom too!

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Post by CrazyCatLady » Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:24 pm

Fabulous, FeelGood! This is just amazing, and makes me even more dedicated to No S as the right plan for me! I really like..."you can eat that food any time, so why over indulge?" Thank you for sharing!

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Post by feelgood » Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:00 am

Thank you both! I've never been called a hero before. :D

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