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  • Description

    Experience the thrill of Barra fishing with these Mako Bravo sunglasses.

    Mako Eyewear only uses the highest quality materials in the production of its frames. Mako has developed a range of sunglasses that are strong, lightweight and, perhaps above all, comfortable to wear. Mako metal frames are made from a high tensile nickel-copper alloy that is resistant to salt water and numerous acids, whilst Mako plastic frames are built from a blend of tough and flexible nylons, providing strength not found in other frames. You can be confident your Mako sunglasses are made to last.

  • Lenses & Frames

    Mako Lenses and Frame

    MAKO high definition lenses are now the benchmark in clarity and contrast. Available in polycarbonate, glass
and the new MAKO nano-nylon lens material HD lenses filter certain wavelengths of light that can add distortion to your vision. This gives your eye just the balance it needs to provide incredible clarity and enhanced contrast

    By using an industry leading 12 or more anti-reflective coatings, MAKO lenses reduce the problematic effect of internal reflections that can result with lesser quality lenses. The end result is serious protection for eyes.

    The amount of sunlight can vary from day to day so why not have a lens that changes to match the amount of available light. MAKO photochromic lenses come in a range of colour tints to suit your eyes and your outdoor pursuits especially when combined with MAKO’s HD technology.

    Hydrophobic and Oleophobic coatings reduce fogging, smudging and let water run right off your MAKO lens. This extra layer of protection makes MAKO lenses incredibly scratch resistant.

    MAKO advanced polarisation technology lenses eliminate glare by up to 99%, gives protection from harmful UVA and UVB dramatically reduce eye fatigue for greater comfort and clearer vision.

    High contrast in low light. Perfect for overcast conditions and flat light.

    Filters out a large percentage of blue light to reduce eyestrain and enhances contrast.

    Great all round lens for standard light conditions, maintains colour balance well.

    Provides great contrast and image definition with minimal eye fatigue.

    High reflective power for conditions in full sun and extreme glare.

    Good all round grey lens with extra reflective properties making it ideal for bright light and harsh sun.

    Gives heightened contrast in varying and flat light, while still reflecting excess light in bright conditions.

    Engineered to inhibit spectral wave-lengths that are prone to distortion. Giving maximum clarity and contrast.

    Fantastic all round lens that reacts to available light, ideal for use when polarisation is needed from early morning to late evening. Available in both regular and HD lens.

    The new Mako HD lens improves vision; enhancing colour and clarity, while filtering out harmful, harsh and distorted light. Made from the highest quality components, and using 100% polarisation, with Mako HD lenses you'll see more detail than ever before.

    Whether it's fishing, boating or any outdoor sport nothing beats a Make polarised Lens. With over 12 lens choices and up to 15 layers of lens technology Mako produce polarised eyewear to enhance clarity no matter what your sport.

    We've developed a range of strong, lightweight and comfortable sunglasses, made from the highest quality materials. You can be confident your make frames and lenses are made to last.

    Make uses a range of high quality materials to ensure quality, durability and comfort.

    Hi-Tech Nylon Frames
    Built from innovative high density nylon, they feature a special ultra smooth finish for added comfort and are extremely durable.

    Metal Frames
    Built from high tensile metal which is resistant to saltwater and numerous acids.

    Flex Titanium
    Utilising space age titanium Mako's Flex frame is built to handle the rigours of outdoor sports wth its amazing recoil properties.

  • Accessories

    Mako Accessories

    Mako Sunglasses come with a Black Drawstring Mirco-fibre Cleaning Bag and a Grey Hard Zipper Case.

    *Case may vary with sunglasses.

  • Warranty

    Mako Warranty

    Manufacturers warranties come with all items we sell. The details of the warranty period are usually detailed on the swing tag or the instructions booklet.
    Mako Sunglasses are guaranteed against defects in workmanship and materials for 12 months from date of purchase. Your Mako warranty is only valid with a proof of purchase from an authorised dealer. The warranty does not cover normal wear and tear, scratched or broken lenses, lost screws, fading or peeling of frames, or nose piece and frame deterioration. Any alterations to the sunglasses will void your warranty. The manufacturer reserves the right to repair or replace, in part or in full, sunglasses returned for warranty or repair. Warranty claims and other repairs are at the complete discretion of the manufacturer.

    How to make a warranty claim or have your sunglasses repaired:

    Option 1: Take them to your nearest stockist; and they will be able to assist you in sending them back;
    Option 2: Return the item to the manufacturer yourself;
    Option 3: Post back to us with our Repair and Warranty claim form. We will forward them to the manufacturer on your behalf (postage charges apply). Please complete the form and attach to your return. Package your sunglasses (inside their protective case) in a sturdy box with padding.

    Important details

    • Glasses should be kept in their protective pouch when not being worn.
    • Important: to validate your warranty please present to the retailer your receipt for proof of purchase.
    • If the problem is minor, such as a missing screw, you can see your local stockist or optometrist; they should be able to help you with this problem!


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June 2010 Blog Posts (38)

Tweeting and we now have over 1000 members!

Can people please use the twitter account ... message me for the password. Then you can link your page's update status directly to the twitter account.
We have passed the 1000 member mark, congratulations to us!

Added by msmarmitelover on June 30, 2010 at 10:40 — 2 Comments

"Blame it on Rio" dinner menu coming soon!

A selection of our favourite dishes from Brasil, such as feijoada, moqueca de peixe, bacalhau com natas, bolinhos de bacalhau & caipirinhas...!

Added by Clandestinos Secret Supper Club✓ on June 29, 2010 at 10:04 — No Comments

Top Tip: Don't Lick a Steak Knife - Go To Estonia Instead

A week of uncertainty in the Public Sector as I await David Cameron's announcement about how much of my (as yet) unredeemed pension he will take to line the bonuses of the nationalised bankers. Top tip: don't lick a steak knife - especially if it's gently prodding you in the back. Imagine being elected on a mandate to cause severe pain! They must be rubbing their hands with glee. Reminds me of the newspaper headline: "Prime Minister promises more lies ahead". Aw well, off to Estonia next…

Added by PimlicoPal on June 25, 2010 at 21:14 — 2 Comments

our first ever event

please join is for us for our first ever event.
on the 30th of july
look forward from hearing from you email us at or phone us at 07719985980 mon - sun after 2pm also on facebook

Added by stocks and hares on June 25, 2010 at 10:26 — No Comments

REEL TASTY tells all to Serious Eats

After last weeks Indiana Jones themed supper one of our guests decided to write a little article about how Aimee and I do what we do. Here is what she asked and what we had to say.

Added by Forking Tasty Suppers on June 24, 2010 at 23:18 — No Comments

Additional places for Dinner at Dusk

Hi there, we've added a few more spaces for our dinner at Dusk on Sunday, July 4th...if you'd like to come, please send me a message or tweet me at Cheers, Cristian & Joaquim

Added by Clandestinos Secret Supper Club✓ on June 24, 2010 at 14:23 — No Comments

Hey this is our first underground meal so as we used to own a Mexican restauraunt we tought that would be a perfec theam and food. We will be useing good old favoritres and some of our very own secret recipes. Come and join us in Nuneaton Warkwickshire 17/7/2010

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Added by andy weeks on June 21, 2010 at 17:00 — 3 Comments

North Devon first supper club

I triumphed in my first supper club here at No. 2 Broadgate in the beautiful historic part of Barnstaple, North Devon. The evening was a fabulous mix of great company, beautiful dining room and fabulous food and wine. There were 18 people dining and were treated to a grandiose selection of canapes in the garden betweeen 7 and 8 .30 to start then four courses with a choice of four dishes per course - i was sensible enough to get in pre orders so kept panic to minimum......a few people stayed… Continue

Added by Jane Steeley on June 21, 2010 at 11:21 — 2 Comments

I Would LOVE to perform at your supper club - recently played at Number68 & GlastoRamble - check it out - intimate soul, jazz and reggae x ilana lorraine

Added by ILANA LORRAINE on June 20, 2010 at 1:58 — 2 Comments

All spaces now gone for Dinner at Dusk on Sunday, 4th July

...but please let me know if you'd like to be put on our mailing list.

Added by Clandestinos Secret Supper Club✓ on June 19, 2010 at 10:39 — No Comments

Only 3 places left for our Dinner at Dusk on Sunday, 4th July

Please send me a message if you'd like to come or to be put on our mailing list. Thanks much. Cristian

Added by Clandestinos Secret Supper Club✓ on June 18, 2010 at 10:03 — 1 Comment

Dinner at Dusk Menu for Sunday, 4th July

Added by Clandestinos Secret Supper Club✓ on June 17, 2010 at 19:21 — No Comments

Bootleg - Friday 18th June

Calling out to all our friends - past, present and future !! We need to round up some people for Bootleg Banquet this Friday night.

We know it's the England game, but surely there's some people out there who aren't wrapped up with the World Cup.

Tell your friends, tell your colleagues - get the girls together for a great dinner while the boys are watching the footy in the pub.

Tickets at:-…

Added by bootleg banquet on June 16, 2010 at 21:00 — 1 Comment

Slice Your Blueberries says the No 24 Bus Driver!

Having boarded my routine No 24 bus from Whitehall to Pimlico this evening, the passengers were aroused from their apathy by a sudden stop. This was followed by an announcement from the latin driver that sounded just like a blueberry muffin recipe. When I challenged the driver face to face, he instructed us all to get off as the bus was being diverted, or terminated, or something. Just before departure, I had to ask if the driver recommended that the blueberrries were sliced or kept whole,… Continue

Added by PimlicoPal on June 15, 2010 at 19:30 — 1 Comment

Menu for Friday 18th June

Pappa al Pomodoro (Tuscan bread, tomato and basil soup)

Zuchinni blossom stuffed with ricotta, lemon zest and marjoram, served with rocket & parmesan salad and shaved raw zuchinni

Lamb tagine with peas, tomato, smoked paprika and coriander, served with tabbouleh and carrots Tangiers

Vege - Yemista - stuffed Greek beef tomato with rice, haloumi, pine nuts and sultanas

Cherry Ripe Cake - coconut cake topped with dark chocolate and…

Added by bootleg banquet on June 14, 2010 at 21:59 — No Comments

Pancakes & Guide Dogs for Goalkeepers?

I am wondering if Fabio Capello is aware of the charity that provides Labrador Guide Dogs for England Goalkeepers? Our wonderful World Cup Team just joined BP amongst the top world rankings for spilling things over Americans. Maybe it's best not to invite Robert Green to your Shrove Tuesday Party. Unless tossing pancakes is a required skill. Sighs............

Added by PimlicoPal on June 13, 2010 at 10:00 — No Comments

All spaces now gone!

Sorry to all those that emailed me but watch this space for new dates!

Added by Clandestinos Secret Supper Club✓ on June 11, 2010 at 8:00 — No Comments

We got them!

Zucchini blossoms!! Can't wait to share these with our guests this weekend!! Spots still available for Saturday! or pop me a note on!! (footy schmooty!!)

Added by Jill Hodges on June 11, 2010 at 6:26 — 4 Comments

My top picks for ristos in the Tuscan countryside!

Be whisked away this Saturday! Spots still free! Footy schmooty!

Added by Jill Hodges on June 10, 2010 at 18:14 — 1 Comment

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November 28, 2016 -- The sun will be at the center of feature shows at the Santa Monica College John Drescher Planetarium in December.

On Friday, December 2, the planetarium will focus on the first total solar eclipse to occur in the continental United States since 1979, which will take place next August 21.

The show will review the characteristics of an eclipse, which takes place when the moon blocks the sun; trace its path and discuss viewing safety and weather conditions.

"With the solar corona plainly visible overhead, a total eclipse is one of those 'Must See' experiences," event organizers said.

The entire continent will experience a partial eclipse lasting between two and three hours, according to NASA. Those within a 60- to 70-mile-wide path from Oregon to South Carolina will experience a total eclipse halfway through the event.

"During those brief moments when the moon completely blocks the sun’s bright face for up to 2 minutes 40 seconds, day will turn into night, making visible the otherwise hidden solar corona," NASA officials said.

"Bright stars and planets will become visible as well," they said. "This is truly one of nature’s most awesome sights."

The show replaces “Juno Progress Report,” which has been postponed until Spring 2017 "due to propulsion-glitch delays in the intensive science phase of the mission," planetarium officials said.

On Friday December 9, the popular seasonal favorite “A Winter’s Solstice” will explore the history of ancient observances of the shortest day and the longest night of the year, when the sun's maximum elevation in the sky is at its lowest.

Ancient cultures celebrated the reversal of the sun's ebbing presence in the sky as a sign of the sun gods' rebirth.

In northern Europe, the solstice was celebrated as a holiday called "Yule," which would take a more modern form in such popular traditions as the Christmas tree, the Christmas wreath and the Yule log.

The show also offers "a look at a re-creation of the remarkable planetary conjunction in 2 BCE -- a leading candidate for a scientific explanation of the Star of Bethlehem," organizers said.

The show, titled “The Total Eclipse of August 21, 2017,” will be repeated on Friday, December 16.

The feature shows are at 8 p.m. and are preceded by “The Night Sky Show” at 7 p.m., offering "the latest news in astronomy and space exploration, a family-friendly 'tour' of the constellations, and the chance to ask astronomy-related questions," officials said.

The John Drescher Planetarium, which features a Digistar projection system, is located near the elevators on the second floor of Drescher Hall, 1900 Pico Boulevard.

Tickets are available at the door and cost $11 ($9 seniors and children) for the evening’s scheduled “double bill," or $6 ($5 seniors age 60 and older and children age 12 and under) for a single show or telescope-viewing session.

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Monday, July 25, 2011

Up in Smoke

A spectacular fire on July 9, 2011, of a Jeddah six-story office building that totally destroyed the structure has raised questions about a dubious policy that many Saudi employers follow. Ravaging the twin towers of Alesayi Plaza near Madinah Road, the blazing inferno also destroyed some 17,000 foreign passports belonging to expatriate workers employed by companies such as Panasonic, Moulinex, and over 60 other businesses which were housed in the complex. The cause of the fire is still under investigation.

It is the policy of many employers in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia to confiscate the passports of workers and hold them until the employees leave the country. Unfortunately this policy has paved the way for many abuses to occur within the system with potentially disastrous ramifications, such as slavery, blackmail, withholding pay, and inability of workers to switch their employment to another company within Saudi Arabia.

There is no law in Saudi Arabia which requires workers to surrender their passports to their employers, however some companies falsely claim that they are following the law by holding their employees’ passports or may simply say that it is company policy. Companies explain that keeping workers’ passports is their way of protecting their investment by bringing workers into the country. The Kingdom requires that foreign workers have a legal sponsor, which would be the Saudi company they work for. According to Saudi law, workers are allowed to freely change jobs or employers and to change their sponsorship, however there is no government entity to ensure that foreign workers rights are protected.

For many foreign workers who had plans to leave the country, their departures will likely be delayed. This unfortunate event should be a wake-up call for the Saudi government to take control of this serious situation and enforce policy regarding the possession of foreign workers’ passports.

Related Arab News articles:

“Jeddah's Alesayi Plaza gutted by fire” – published July 9, 2011

“Second Alesayi tower on verge of collapse” – published July 10, 2011

“Alesayi fire burned 17,000 passports” – published July 18, 2011

“Your company is keeping your passport illegally” – published July 21, 2011

Photo Credits: Arab News and Abdul Sami Naik.

Tuesday, July 19, 2011

Reel Bad Arabs

Hollywood has contributed for decades to promoting the images of negative and demeaning stereotypes of Blacks, Native American Indians, Asians, and other ethnic groups, including Arabs. While taking aim at many of these groups may have become politically incorrect in today's society, the assault on the representation of Arabs in movies continues. Even Disney's Aladdin, which targets a younger audience, contains sordid and biased images, songs and dialogue that can effectively taint children's attitudes towards Arabs. The opening song of the movie Aladdin, sung by an Arab bad guy, includes these lyrics: "I come from a land, from a faraway place where the caravan camels roam, where they cut off your ear if they don't like your face - it's barbaric, but hey, it's home." What's a child to assume when hearing this?

In the early days of Hollywood, as far back as the 1920s, Arabs have been portrayed as "thieves, charlatans, murderers, and brutes." Many movies often just throw in unseemly Arab characters or negative references to Arabs, despite the movies' plots or themes having anything at all to do with Arabs or the Middle East, such as 1985's film Back to the Future and 1995's Father of the Bride 2. Arabs are often depicted as heartless savages to fill the antagonists' roles when the plotline calls for bad guys.

"I think whenever we see anyone being villified on a regular basis, we have to speak up whether we are image makers or not. We have to take a stand and say this is morally and ethically wrong to demonize a people," says Dr. Jack Shaheen, author of Reel Bad Arabs: How Hollywood Vilifies a People.

Dr. Shaheen appears in the video below in this short synopsis of the film documentary based on his book.

If you are interested in seeing the full length documentary in its entirety, it has been broken down into several parts, each about 10 minutes long. Here are the links:

Part 1 - Reel Bad Arabs Documentary
Part 2 - Reel Bad Arabs Documentary
Part 3 - Reel Bad Arabs Documentary
Part 4 - Reel Bad Arabs Documentary
Part 5 - Reel Bad Arabs Documentary

Hollywood and Washington are forever linked in the movies. It's natural for Hollywood to produce movies about certain historical events. But what about movies that are just for pure entertainment? Is there a correlation between the large percentage of Hollywood power players being Jewish and the consistently negative portrayals of Arabs in the movies? (Joel Stein wrote this interesting op-ed piece about this topic.) Have we just become so conditioned to seeing this type of thing in the movies that it has made us insensitive to the harm that these stereotypes can do? Is Hollywood being irresponsible with its continuous negative depictions of Arabs in the movies?

Reel Bad Arabs website.

Thursday, July 7, 2011

My Niece Louisa in the Sahara

My niece Louisa, a university student, is spending part of this summer in Morocco taking an intensive Arabic language course. She started blogging about her experiences on her blog called "On the Streets of Fes."    Her latest entry, "A Trip to the Sahara," is an interesting account of a trip to the Sahara with great photos which I thought you would find interesting...

This weekend turned out to be the most amazing weekend of my life. It was the Sahara Trip, which was organized by the school so about 30 students all went. We drove about 7 hours through the Moroccan country side which was amazing in itself. Our destination for the day was a luxury hotel in the middle of nowhere. At this point in the program, everyone was hot, tired, and a little bit sick of their homestays. This hotel was absolutely amazing. It had two pools, a disco, and real showers. The food was amazing and we pretty much had the hotel to ourselves. After a night of drinking and swimming, we were able to sleep in and then the next morning we took off again for our second destination. We stopped at the Kasbah Tombocktu and swam while we waited for the sun to get lower in the sky.

Around 6 pm, we started loading onto the camels. Please take into account that camels are not the most beautiful animals and they also make odd sounds. Once I put one leg up onto my camel, it immediately stood up, which caused me to lurch forward to the top of its back. Finally I was settled and I tried to ignore the camel behind me which was slobbering on my leg. Camels are extremely uncomfortable to ride and they are roped together in groups of 3-5 with a Berber man walking in front.

The Sahara is amazing. The red and yellow sand in huge dunes around you for as far as you can see. There are snake and scorpion tracks in the sand and when we stopped to watch the sunset, we climbed one of the dunes and took in the beauty around us.

We reached the Berber Oasis shortly after sunset and were welcomed to rugs laid out on the sand with tents in a circle. The Berbers served us tea and a few of us climbed up the huge sand dune behind the camp in hopes of sand skiing. We ate dinner at ridiculously short tables and then listened to some of the Berbers drum and sing. Since we were in the middle of the desert, there were no lights except for the candles set up around the camp. This way, we could see thousands of stars. The entire Milky Way was visible and there was no moon, which made it especially dark. We started dancing to the Berber drums and I was extremely happy. After, a few of us sat down with some of the Berber guys and started to talk. I realized they all spoke Spanish so I was thrilled that I could communicate with them. I met Asou, who was 21 and lived in the larger town near the hotel. He has been leading camel treks for 10 years in the Sahara and knew about 5 languages just by listening to visitors in the desert.

My friend Gabrielle and I made our way out to the “bathroom” and on our way back, we ran into Asou and another Berber guy. They explained that they were about to climb the dune behind us which was about 600 meters and made completely of sand. Gabrielle and I looked at each other, shrugged, and followed these guys up the side of the mountain. At this time, it was pitch dark, none of us were wearing shoes, and the dune was just about as steep as possible. Every step you took, you slid down another step. After about an hour or an hour and a half, we reached the top. The view was absolutely breathtaking. Since this was the tallest dune for miles and miles, you could see everything. To the North, there was a small town with lights. To the South, hundreds of meters below us, was the camp, which was impossible to see because it was very late at night and all the lights were out. To the East, you could see the black mountains that made the Algerian border and to the West, you could see the dunes going on and on for hundreds of miles.

It was the most incredible experience being able to stand on the very tip of this dune, by ourselves and get caught up in the Sahara wind watching hundreds of shooting stars. We spent the entire night up there, walking on the ridges of the dunes and learning words in the Berber language. At 4:20am, the mosque in the town to the North announced the call to prayer. This consisted of a flashing light from the mosque and the call which you could faintly here through the wind. Around 4:30 am, the guys had to head down the mountain to start getting the camels ready because the sun was about to rise. We sat up there as other students from our camp slowly made their way up to where we were sitting. They were amazed and jealous that we had spent the night up here and watching the sunrise was incredible sitting there with all of our friends. After the sun rose, we quickly jumped and slid down the mountain so that we could get back before the heat set in. I was so tired on the camel ride back that I actually fell asleep at one point, which I thought was impossible. We arrived at the hotel, showered and ate, and then started the long drive back to Fes. As I am writing this, I am sore everywhere, dehydrated, and exhausted but I am extremely lucky to have had this experience and I will never experience my night on the top of the dune for as long as I live.

To see more photos from Louisa's trip and to read more about her experiences so far, please check out her blog, "On the Streets of Fes."


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What do we think as individuals about an issue? How is possible to build an opinion that satisfy us? What can we do about it?

Some questions emerged when I was reading about the polemic experiment LOHAFEX, a cooperation between the National Institute of Oceanography, India and the Alfred Wegener Institute for Polar and Marine Research, Germany. The idea of the experiment was to fertilize a stable offshore area of the Southern Ocean with iron sulphate to induce a phytoplankton bloom. The given reason for the experiment was to understand the role of iron in our oceans, especially in relation to the role of ocean fertilization in removing atmospheric carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. Opponents including conservation groups, some scientific organizations and some governmental agencies consider this experiment unnecessary, dangerous (ocean acidification, pollution...) and partially motivated by the potential commercial use of this technology in large scale. The researchers denied this, alleging that they oppose large scale fertilization in the oceans, that the experiment does not cause any damage to the environment, that the results will bring invaluable information for the scientific community and the mayor motivation was the necessity of filling knowledge gaps.

The problem was that it was difficult for me to build an opinion based on the information found. For me the reasons for the experiment were more or less valid since the role of anything that may affect the global warming should be studied. Also interesting for me was the idea that carbon dioxide sequestered in waters deeper that 3000m could remain there for centuries before re-entering the atmosphere (only few months in shallower waters). How can we ensure that the outcomes of the experiment will not be used for anything possible such as large scale commercial fertilizations? What happen after those centuries? Why should we postpone the problem to future generations? Is this only a palliative? Are we really solving the causes? Are we as individuals powerful enough to influence something big?

Unable to think further in the experiment as a scientist and feeling uncomfortable about this, the thought arose in my mind that having the facts is not sufficient, science by itself is not enough to transform things in a positive way, positive for the majority and positive for the environment. We have to find in our selves our core values and relate them to science. The way we handle our environment, the way we are treating our seas, in that way we are treating ourselves and the future. To be successful as individuals in addressing conservation issues and sustainable management, we need a long term intrinsic motivation powered by our set of core values and our search for knowledge. As Mohandas Gandhi said “we have to be those changes we want to see in the world”...

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  2. There are so many points raised in this post, where to start.
    Whilst some will oppose this method of research, others will still welcome it, and not just companies wishing to use this in aquaculture and other industries which could benefit. The inherent dangers of causing a bloom which could become toxic and cause the death of a large number of other organisms is not something that should be taken lightly, and I would hope that this had been assessed before the experiment had taken place. Not having read about it and only having heard of it briefly before, I cannot comment on the actual experimental method etc.

    As to whether individuals can make a difference, of course they can, there have been dozens of examples throughout history and even in the present day. By what people buy in the shops, the consumer controls what companies produce, the hold they have over a large area of industry is surprising.

    You said yourself that this was an experiment. Therefore it is not as though it is being carried out on a huge scale as it would be if it was part of an industry. This was a single experiment from what has been said, and the effect of it will be looked at, I assume, and from that a result found.

    I think you have leapt ahead of yourself a little.

  3. A very interesting post....Id like to comment on the issues you raised in the later part of the paper on our individual ability to engage as sceintists on issues concerning marine sustainability.

    In a recent article in EOS, Oct 2008 Vol 89 (52), 'Affecting public policy: What is a scientist to do?, a postdoctoral fellow discussed his placement as a scientist in government and the role of science in devleoping public policy. As the discusses, scientsits, like everyone else, are affected by public policy, and have an interest, if not a special role, in ensuring the best policies are enacted.

    The article spent some time exploring what the role of the scientist should be - either an impartial expert supplying the 'facts' or an activist advocating for a particular position. The article felt that the positions were mutually exlcusive - you couldn't be both. However, both positions, are relevant in formualting policy and enacting 'change'. One one hand maintaining the neutrality of science is important to provide reliable information and it shouldn't 'take sides'. On the other hand scientists are people too, with opinions and values, and these do influence the way we think, engage and work. With access to tools and informaiton the public does not have, scientists should also speak up about important issues where change is needed...just look at climate change or fisheries for example.

    So...which one are you?

  4. As a practitioner I know that my opinions will be taken seriously by stakeholders if I know my facts and am seen to be impartial - i.e. being even-handed and not supporting opinions that do not have a good evidence base. Some NGOs that I have dealt with have defined campaign objectives and they will either use or ignore evidence to suit their campaign - and even manipulate the evidence to support their objective. However, many NGOs have found that this approach leads them to become discredited amongst policy formers (even if it makes good headlines)and so discredits all their activities. The best solution for scientists is to support positions consistent with the evidence and not to jump on band-wagons before a thorough evaluation of the facts and theories. The public have a right to expect this measured evidence based approach from scientists. I try not to have opinions on things I have not studied.

  5. I'd be curious to know what your approach would be when there is uncertainty in the science, but decisions need to be made. This could be data based uncertainty, process uncertainty or just simple ignorance! Would you endorse the precautionary approach as a scientist?

    Also, what if the scientist has the 'facts' but there is a huge inertia in the system against change, or there is a cultural bias against change? Should he or she become involved as an 'activist' - I guess an example would the Pauly's work on overfishing, Hansen (from NASA) work on climate change or even Lovelock on Gaia. I guess, what Im trying to say is that being an activist doesn't necessarily mean being an NGO..but this does stray from science into politics. Im just wondering where the line is...or even if there is a line!

  6. Re Kenny's post, I'd be interested to know if you think we should only express our opinions if we are sure they will be taken seriously? Couldn't this form of self-censorship inhibit the expression of ideas or opinions which, although they may not be taken seriously or have hard evidence to back them up, may be the intuitive seeds of what may later blossom into innovative (and evidence-based)ways forward?

  7. Re the last paragraph of Jessica's original post, I think you're touching on an issue discussed by Robert Hay in his article "Becoming Ecosynchronous, Part 1. The Root Causes of Our Unsustainable Way of Life" (2005. Sustainable Development 13:311-325) where he advocates going beyond purely technological (and thereby arguably, by extension, factual scientific) approaches to the environmental and social crisis facing us by bringing "the personal dimension back into our initiatives" through actively couching technology and science in an awareness of the psychological and philosophical roots of our problems. Hay speaks of delving into the values and ethics underlying decisions to get at these root causes.

    Often dismissed as concepts that are far too amorphous to be useful in the logical world of science, could values be, as you suggest, something that we need to integrate more into the scientific world? If so, this begs the question - where do we find values? I think your suggestion that we have to find our core values within ourselves is correct. It echoes Alistair McIntosh's description (in his book Rekindling Community) of true values as "a discovery....inner qualities that emerge only as we live up to becoming increasingly honest to life". As McIntosh points out, true values, coming from within, force people to face up to and own their values.

    Finding these values therefore requires an exploration of self, leading to greater self-awareness (and self-acceptance). In fact, finding these values calls for an exploration that goes in completely the opposite direction to scientific research which is always outwardly directed. It would make sense then that what you feel is missing can be found via a search in the opposite direction - inwards. The fruits of both avenues of research do not exclude each other - quite the opposite, they complement and enrich each other.

    While authors such as Jentoft have called for the integration of research from the disciplines of psychology, education and sociology with science, I think this that this is a step in the right direction but it does not go far enough as it is more "outward" research (albeit into inward processes) which is still too far removed from ourselves to provide what is missing and necessary. Jung pointed to this when he wrote, in 1969, that the modern person “needs to return, not to Nature in the manner of Rousseau, but to his own nature. His task is to find the natural man again. Instead of this, there is nothing he likes better than systems and methods by which he can repress the natural man who is everywhere at cross purposes with him”.

    (continued in next post due to excessive length of comment!)

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    A year later (1970), Jung observed: “everything possible has been done for the outside world: science has been refined to an almost unimaginable extent, technical achievement has reached an almost uncanny degree of perfection. But what of man who is expected to administer all these blessings in a reasonable way? He has simply been taken for granted.” Almost 40 years on, science has been refined to an extent that would have been entirely unimaginable in 1970. But what of our own personal understanding of the human psyche? Or to put it in a more optimistic way – if “outward” research has yielded the unimaginable fruits that we have today, what could be the fruits of inward exploration?

    To draw again from Jung: “one should never forget that science is simply a matter of intellect and that the intellect is only one among several fundamental psychic functions and therefore does not suffice to give a complete picture of the world. For this another function – feeling – is needed too. Feeling often arrives at convictions that are different from those of the intellect, and we cannot always prove that the convictions of feeling are necessarily inferior.”

    All of the above is not to say that no conservation/sustainable management issues can be solved by science alone. It all depends on the issue. Schumacher distinguishes between convergent and divergent problems, saying that the former can be solved by logic and method, whereas the latter, formed out of tensions between competing perspectives can only be resolved by more non-rational methods such as wisdom, love, compassion, understanding and empathy.

    Drawing on the non-rational cannot come from the outside, it must come from within, but to find such non-rational tools, the "within" territory must first be explored, and not just by researchers, but by each individual, if we are to create the "long term intrinsic motivation powered by our set of core values and our search for knowledge" that you describe. So in a very long-winded way, what I wanted to say is that I agree whole-heartedly with what you’re getting at Jessica. And although I have already quoted extensively from Jung (sourced from a 2001 article by Yunt on “Jung’s contribution to an Ecological Psychology) I cannot resist one final quotation (from 1959):

    “Can we not understand that all the outward tinkerings and improvements do not touch man’s inner nature, and that everything ultimately depends upon whether the man who wields the science and the technics is capable of responsibility or not?”

  9. In reply to the above post and with the notion that as scientists we should look inwards for our motivation. Especially when studying the natural environment, it seems obvious to me that our motivation and inspiration should come wholly or at least mostly from nature itself.

    When considering management issues in particular, i believe that values-based motivation is counterproductive. When trying to reduce the anthropogenic footprint, personal values which are themselves derived from our culture and upbringing can cloud or judgement. With public opinion weighing heavy on funding, we cannot afford the kind of confusion that arises from conflict of interest between what rational science tells us is the right thing to do for the environment and what we personally believe is right for the environment.

  10. I would agree that emotions-based motivation can be counterproductive. I would however, draw a distinction between (i) emotions which are transitory and can completely cloud judgement, (ii) gut feelings/intuition which, when working hand in hand with rationality and logic, can provide an extremely powerful combination, and (iii) values, which operate outside the judgement box, and which are universal truths rather than fleeting, clouding emotions.

    Thinking/rationality is necessarily judgemental (as Shakespeare said in Hamlet: "Nothing is either good or bad but thinking makes it so"). Wise judgements are those that are illuminated (not clouded) by values.


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Wednesday, September 06, 2006

What an Awesome President We Have

President Bush today gets a standing ovation while giving one hellava powerful, passionate speech. Now, it is time for our useless Congress, with the lowest rating ever, to get off their butts and get to work IMMEDIATELY.
In my opinion, these detainees are treated too good....they should be on a chain gang...serving hard labor....without a Koran in their hand. We are speaking of the worst of the worst....evil and brutal killers in the world.

WHITE HOUSE: President Discusses Creation of Military Commissions to Try Suspected Terrorists

Bush Reveals Secret War On Terror, Movement of Suspects via Fox News
WASHINGTON — President Bush, warning Americans that "terrorists are still active... and still trying to kill our people," announced Wednesday the transfer of 14 key terrorist suspects from secret CIA custody to the U.S. Navy base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, including alleged Sept. 11 mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammed.
He also announced that he was asking Congress to pass legislation that would allow the United States to try the terror suspects for war crimes.

Via AP: 14 high-value terrorism suspects — including the mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks — have been transferred from the system to Guantanamo Bay for trials.
Aides said the legislation being introduced on Bush's behalf later Wednesday on Capitol Hill insists on provisions covering military tribunals that would permit evidence to be withheld from a defendant if necessary to protect classified information.

High-Value Detainees Will Be Given Prisoner-of-War Status via ABC exclusive
In late June, the Supreme Court issued a decision blocking military tribunals for detainees. A major rebuke to the Bush administration, the justices ruled that the president first needed the approval of Congress before ordering prisoners to be tried for war crimes.

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Friday, August 27, 2010

Daytripping Plattsburg, Missouri Thursday 26 August 2010

Ken and I, after leaving Kansas City late, take a nice drive in the country in Betsy, towards Plattsburg, Missouri.

I didn't get what they meant by "president for a day," but then I read the history...
Ken and I walked west after touring downtown to look at some of the houses in Plattsburg.
We arrived at the west side of town where the main road into town forks at a real estate office, which has always been a memorable landmark for me...
I also noticed a nice mid-century modern animal clinic
I love mid-century post and beam construction...
and even the more post-modern variants of that style...
as we found later in a dental clinic.  Also, on the same road, we found a large log on display at a lumber yard...
and, of course, more gorgeous "painted lady" victorian homes...
We also found a collection of old luxury automobiles, oh, and a Rambler from the 60's..
American Motors Rambler
A Packard and a Lincoln limo
all displayed with an antique fuel pump with gas at 14 cents a gallon.
Then back to more sights...
Including this patriotic display, that I can only describe as an american flag sputnik...
We went to get a coke at a place called JJ's Bar. They only had poopsie though, but the place was very friendly, and we even met the Mayor of Plattsburg.

Sunday, August 22, 2010

Third Friday Artwalk in Englewood, Severe Weather

Chasing the WX into Independence
Third Friday cut short, high winds in Independence
Ligtening strobe light show

Saturday, August 21, 2010

Daytripping Lawrence Kansas Thursday 19 August 201

I have been going to Lawrence, Kansas since spring 1990, when I read about the great music scene there in the local alternative weeklys and the local music paper.  Familiarization with bands like the Sin City Disciples and Kill Whitey let me know that something exciting was in Lawrence.  My first roadtrip there was to go see Day on the Hill 1990, which had Sin City Disciples headlining.

Sin City Disciples at the Bottleneck, Lawrence Kansas, August1991

Kill Whitey at the Americn Rights Festival outside Lawrence Kansas, September 1991 performing "Conversation"

Ken, Suyen and I left for Lawrence from Kansas City.  Ken and I to do some daytripping, Suyen to do shopping at her favorite store -- the Gap.  She doesn't share our enthusiasm for local businesses.

Driving Downtown Kansas City

Much has changed in Lawrence.  in 1990, downtown was primarily local businesses.  It even had a Woolworths downtown, if I remember right -- not that Woolworths is local, but it was always a fixture of downtown areas everywhere.  I remember sometime in the early 90's, that part of downtown, (where McDonalds, then McDonalds captive mexican chain is now ) was completely torn out and modernized.  About two years ago, I was in the antique mall downtown, and found a book commissioned by some study group that decided that downtown Lawrence was incredibly old fashioned and out of step with the modern times and needed to be torn down and replaced with a mall.  I believe the study was released in 1980.  About 1990, the Riverfront mall was opening up much to the protest of many local citizens.  Downtown Lawrence is still surviving, Riverfront Mall is dead.

Driving in Lawrence Kansas

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Driving on KU and in Lawrence, Kansas with boB Cutler

Driving in Lawrence Kansas with boB Cutler Here in My Car

Driving downtown Lawrence Kansas at night

Friday, August 13, 2010

Daytripping Clinton Missouri

Ken's Pix

Stevo's Pix

We chose Clinton, Missouri as our next daytrip destination.  Actually, we had intended to go here two weeks ago, but other things got in the way.  Ken and I left later than we wanted to, but with temperatures hovering around 105, we wouldn't have been able to do much in the hot sun anyway.  We passed through Belton after several wrong turns on our way south and east of the metro.

Livestream through Belton
Belton Part 2

Approaching Clinton Missouri always brings to mind a terrible tragedy that happened downtown here several years ago.

Coming into Clinton

I mention several times having come here and working here...

Clinton Missouri has the largest town square in the state of Missouri.
Ken and I "wound the clock" several times before tiring out from the heat...

When we finally did tire out after not much time in the heat and humidity, we checked into 1/2 Pints Frozen Custard for a cone and some much needed water.  Poor Tima was stressing as well in this heat.  It is not easy being a little black dog close to the ground in the high temps.  Her ears were pointing straight back like the way a horses ears would do when the horse is pissed.  Though Tima could not come into the a/c, she did get a cup of frozen custard and a nice cup of water.
Across the street from 1/2 Pints, is the KATY depot.  The Missouri Kansas Texas Railroad cut through Clinton, and parts of it are still here.  The Katy trailhead starts here where the railroad ends.  We wondered if trains still operate here.  The Missouri and Northern Arkansas is a successor line.  The railway ends here in Clinton, and the trail begins here.

Downtown DeSoto
Ken and I mused that many people probably have never heard of a DeSoto.
We found this time capsule here, and wondered about it's existence.  Well, a video by the owner explains everyting...

We walked around a bit after being refreshed in the custard place.  We stopped in at Ben Franklins Coffee, where I got an iced mocha, and Ken got a coke.

Looking for the Leaky Roof

The Katy was not the only railroad in town.  In 1995, while working on a story for the tv station I worked for in college, I came upon an interlocking tower in a back yard.  A man there explained to me that it controlled the crossing of the "Leaky Roof" railroad, otherwise known as the Kansas City Clinton and Springfield Railfroad.  We were unsuccessful in finding the tower.

We did find a great animated sign...

 Found an animated sign

We left Clinton heading north on 13 Highway towards Warrensburg.  We stopped by Safari Motel to get some snapshots of the googie there.
Departing Clinton

Driving through Warrensburg at night

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The YAP prolog system. Yet another Prolog (YAP) is a Prolog system originally developed in the mid-eighties and that has been under almost constant development since then. This paper presents the general structure and design of the YAP system, focusing on three important contributions to the logic programming community. First, it describes the main techniques used in YAP to achieve an efficient Prolog engine. Second, most logic programming systems have a rather limited indexing algorithm. YAP contributes to this area by providing a dynamic indexing mechanism, or just-in-time indexer. Third, a important contribution of the YAP system has been the integration of both or-parallelism and tabling in a single logic programming system.

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  1. Angelopoulos, Nicos; Abdallah, Samer; Giamas, Georgios: Advances in integrative statistics for logic programming (2016)
  2. Di Mauro, Nicola; Bellodi, Elena; Riguzzi, Fabrizio: Bandit-based Monte-Carlo structure learning of probabilistic logic programs (2015)
  3. Frasconi, Paolo; Costa, Fabrizio; De Raedt, Luc; De Grave, Kurt: kLog: a language for logical and relational learning with kernels (2014)
  4. Mantadelis, Theofrastos; Rocha, Ricardo; Moura, Paulo: Tabling, rational terms, and coinduction finally together! (2014)
  5. Schrijvers, Tom; Demoen, Bart; Triska, Markus; Desouter, Benoit: Tor: modular search with hookable disjunction (2014)
  6. Swift, Terrance: Incremental tabling in support of knowledge representation and reasoning (2014)
  7. Liang, Senlin; Kifer, Michael: A practical analysis of non-termination in large logic programs (2013)
  8. Costa, Vítor Santos; Rocha, Ricardo; Damas, Luís: The YAP prolog system (2012)
  9. Swift, Terrance; Warren, David S.: XSB: extending Prolog with tabled logic programming (2012)
  10. Zhou, Neng-Fa; Have, Christian Theil: Efficient tabling of structured data with enhanced hash-consing (2012)
  11. Areias, Miguel; Rocha, Ricardo: On combining linear-based strategies for tabled evaluation of logic programs (2011)
  12. Costa, Vítor Santos; Damas, Luís; Rocha, Ricardo: The YAP prolog system (2011)
  13. De Guzmán, Pablo Chico; Casas, Amadeo; Carro, Manuel; Hermenegildo, Manuel V.: Parallel backtracking with answer memoing for independent and-parallelism (2011)
  14. Kalgi, Srihari; Gosar, Chirag; Gawde, Prasad; Ramakrishnan, Ganesh; Gada, Kekin; Iyer, Chander; Kiran, T.V.S.; Srinivasan, Ashwin: BET: An inductive logic programming workbench (2011)
  15. Kimmig, Angelika; Demoen, Bart; De Raedt, Luc; Costa, Vítor Santos; Rocha, Ricardo: On the implementation of the probabilistic logic programming language ProbLog (2011)
  16. Corapi, Domenico; Russo, Alessandra; Lupu, Emil: Inductive logic programming as abductive search (2010)
  17. Costa, Vítor Santos; Dutra, In^es; Rocha, Ricardo: Threads and or-parallelism unified (2010)
  18. Mantadelis, Theofrastos; Janssens, Gerda: Dedicated tabling for a probabilistic setting (2010)
  19. Chen, Jianzhong; Muggleton, Stephen; Santos, José: Learning probabilistic logic models from probabilistic examples. (Extended abstract) (2008)
  20. Chen, Jianzhong; Muggleton, Stephen; Santos, José: Learning probabilistic logic models from probabilistic examples (2008)

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Tuesday, January 29, 2008

I love Yogos Rollers and so do both boys.   Specifically the "Strawberry Splits" flavor.

In other news, my county votes tomorrow due to a Fat Tuesday conflict (we won't go there). Earlier than most of the country, except of course for Florida. My mother called me today and pretty much scared me to death when she asked me if I voted. Since she lives in Florida she did vote today and forgot that her state (my home state) is a little premature. She and I disagree on politics though we can agree to disagree which is pretty nice. Needless to say, I'll be at my local polling place tomorrow probably with two kids in tow to perform my civic and personal duty.

LASTLY, who can't wait for Lost? I know I sure can't. It seems like forever and I feel like I need a refresher course!

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Saturday, February 11, 2012

Post Apocalypse Barsoom- Actual Play

The players had joined up with a band of mercenaries  &  had gotten picked up by a flyer of the Red Scorpion 'Pathan' or mercenary warriors. The captain of the Red Scorpions was being especially cruel to one of the crewmen whipping him into submission.

The players quickly got the upper hand with the captain & threw him over board. They're main fighter had control of the ship until the Dwarven Cleric realized he was flying & failed a wisdom check. Things went from bad to worse as the players came into full sight of their mission objective!
A Scout Tripod which fired on the ship causing damage to the anti gravity generators. The players managed to steer the craft into the tripod & crash the flyer. After aiming grapples at the legs of the thing! The whole mess exploded into the desert floor.
The flyer went from 5 decks to 3 in one fell swoop. Most of  the party got away in an escape craft only to land a few hundred yards away.
A careful search of the wreckage turned up some "treasure" but this is when the giant scavenger lizards.

The party retreated inside the craft to see what was happening as the lizards feasted on the bodies of the fallen mercs. They engaged the prehistoric giants  a couple of times & retreated deeper into the ship.

The real problem show up about an hour into the melee when a high pitched throbbing was heard from over the horizon!

Three Martian Manta Rays showed up!
The party was almost blasted into atoms as the craft scanned the downed flyer wreckage. With a few successive animal handling rolls one of the players managed to calm the lizards down & subdue them for riding. Some of the flyer wreckage revealed brading & such.
The mantas destroyed the top half of  the ship & the players each wrangled a lizard & moved very quickly away.

Three more mantas were rounding over the desert rise just as the first three destroyed the ship wreckage in a fiery explosion !
The players thought that they were lucky to escape with their lives & headed toward civilization. Or so they think!

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