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Elven Lembas Bread recipe: a bite will satisfy a man for a day!

lembas bread: yumLadies, oh, sweet, dear, hard-working keepers of the home: are there not days you’d love to just pull out the Lembas bread and put it on a plate and be done with dinner, already? And you MEN. . . those of you who would like to take off for the day without worrying about what you will pick up for your luncheon . .

Let’s pop into author J.R.R. Tolkien’s imaginary world of Middle-earth, just for a few moments. The hobbits who lived in their cozy underground homes were all about peace, comfort and good food, and indeed, I get hobbits, being a little preoccupied with comfort, good food and such, myself.

To prove this point, at this very moment in my home, the wood stove is radiating heat against the chill of this breezy day; there’s vegetable beef stew in the crock-pot for supper, and a batch of Lembas bread sits cooling on the countertop. If I was a foot shorter and had furry feet, I might actually be mistaken for a hobbit.

Lembas, also called Way bread, was a special type of bread or cake made by the Elves in Tolkien’s books. It was pocket-sized and exceedingly nutritious. It stayed fresh for months when wrapped in leaves, and was a type of superfood carried along on long journeys. Think super-powered energy bars.

According to the books (I’m referring, of course, to the Lord of the Rings trilogy) Lembas was brownish on the outside, and cream-colored on the inside. The secret of Lembas was very closely guarded, and it was not given to anybody who was not an Elf except on very special occasions. Like other products of the Elves, it was offensive to evil creatures; the loathsome creature Gollum refused to eat it.

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In the morning, as they were beginning to pack their slender goods, Elves that could speak their tongue came to them and brought them many gifts of food and clothing for the journey. The food was mostly in the form of very thin cakes, made of meal that was baked a light brown on the outside, and inside was the colour of cream.” – The Fellowship of the Ring

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” . . . we call it lembas or way bread, and it is more strengthening than any food made by Men . . .”

–the Elves, in The Fellowship of the Ring.

I am one lucky mama, for I have a daughter who really loves to cook who–though she’s a college girl now–occasionally pops home to cook or bake up goodies for her friends and family.

(By the way . . . any mama will know that I’ve certainly earned this blessing.) A devotee of the works of  Tolkien, Amalia has been experimenting with a recipe for Lembas bread, the Elvish bread written about in his books.

Amalia has been experimenting with hobbit-like recipes for some time. I wouldn’t be surprised if she stumbled onto the Elvish Lembas secrets, in her own pretty imagination.  She started out by using a recipe that she found online, and then she played around with it until she liked it better. We’ve been enthusiastic guinea pigs to her baking efforts. Don’t stop experimenting (*burp*) yet, Amalia!

This last batch that Amalia made was so delicious that I knew she must be very close, indeed, to the secret Elvish recipe, and I decided that it was time to share it with you, Gentle Readers.  Because, after all, who doesn’t need an exceptional superfood from time to time?

Amalia’s Lembas bread recipe is buttery and rich, and just a little sweet. I don’t know if one bite will honestly satisfy a man for an entire day (I rather doubt it) as the Elves claimed, but it’ll more than likely satisfy your tribe for some time, anyway!

Why not give it a try today? Oh–and a skiff of peanut butter and a drizzle of honey does not, after all, go amiss on this treat! Here is Amalia’s recipe:

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Lembas bread: one bite will satisfy a man for an entire day
Recipe type: bread(ish)
Cuisine: elven
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Cook time:
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Serves: 6
Just a few ingredients and a few minutes of your time to mix them together, and you'll please any Lord of the Ring fans with these tasty breads!
  • 1 cup butter
  • ½ cup brown sugar or ¼ cup honey
  • 2 cups unbleached flour
  1. Preheat oven to 325 degrees.
  2. Cream together the butter and sugar or honey. Add the flour and mix until thoroughly incorporated. Put out on suitable surface and knead until quite smooth, about 5 minutes, adding a bit of flour if necessary to keep dough from sticking.
  3. Roll out to about ¼ inch thickness and cut into 3" to 4" squares, scoring with a knife halfway through each square with a butter knife. Place on buttered cookie sheet and bake for about 20 to 25 minutes, or until lightly golden brown.

Hey . . . hey . . . hey! A couple of postscripts for you:

P.S. 1: Guess what? My Tolkien-crazy daughter Amalia and I finished writing our Hobbit-inspired recipe ebook, “Recipes from a Halfling’s Pantry: lots of these” and it is now available for sale!

It is a big, fat, recipe-full and photo-rich ebook, which you can download and refer to again and again for all your hearty, delicious, cozy meals. We are offering it in “Pay What You Want!” format, so click here to get yours today, for as much as you’d like to pay! $1.00 . . . or $10.00 . . . or $100.00 . . . or . . . 😉 Of course any income that Amalia and I make from this ebook, we’ll use to support our blogging adventures.

P.S. 2. Here’s my very favorite rolling pin and yes, you can order yourself one TODAY if you like.

P.S. 3: If you’d like to check out Amalia’s bookish blog, Second Breakfast, here is where you click to get to it.

Thank you so much! See . .. here’s the cover of our ebook. Isn’t it a beauty??

Isn't it pretty??

Isn’t it pretty??

By the way . . . do you keep an Amazon list most of the time? I find that I do. I live over an hour’s drive from the city where I can shop, so online ordering if becoming more and more convenient for me. And if you can get free shipping and great prices . . . wow, why not? If you click through with my links, Amazon will pay me a few pennies, and it won’t cost a cent extra for you. Any income I make from this blog, I pour right back into it, and I do appreciate your support.

Under its rather quiet appearance is a very tasty and filling treat.

That’s it!

Thank you for popping in!

137 thoughts on “Elven Lembas Bread recipe: a bite will satisfy a man for a day!

  1. Lianda

    I haven’t read those books since the dinosaur’s roamed the earth- but love the imaginary world of the Hobbits. And that recipe sounds WONDERFUL- Amalia sounds like she did a great job- and I’m going to check out the recipe! In fact, it made me realize, I’m hungry!

    1. dramamamafive Post author

      Alana, You’re so sweet. I will make sure that Amalia sees your comment because it’s going to make her day!! Thanks so much!

  2. Katie S

    I love the sound of that recipe – and your daughter’s creativity! I’m a big fantasy fiction fan myself, and the Hobbits will always have a warm place in my heart. I’ll have to give this a shot!

    1. dramamamafive Post author

      Every time I think of those books, I just float away on a wave of nostalgia, because I think they were the first REAL books that I read. You know what I mean–REAL books in that they just carried me away and left me breathless, wanting more. I was in junior high or so. I’d love to read them again for the first time–again!

    1. dramamamafive Post author

      Yup, Chef, when you get tired of cooking and need a day off (or three) make some Lembas bread! Really, it is very tasty. I like it with a skiff of butter and a drizzle of honey . .. yum . .

  3. Authiel Erynien

    I made these the other day for a friend’s birthday party, since most of our social circle consists of LARPers and fantasy fans. They went over super well!

    I’ve made lembas several times before, but I’ve always felt that, while good, it was too bland to be of Elven-make. This recipe wasn’t the case at all, and this is currently my favorite lembas recipe for that reason. I made a slight change; instead of using brown sugar OR honey, I used both. I’m one of those people who really loves honey in lembas, and I didn’t want to sacrifice the brown sugar taste; besides, I like sweet things, and lembas has always been sweet in my mind. I also brushed a bit of the honey on top of the lembas before baking, and I added a bit of cinnamon (about 3/4 tsp for one batch, more or less; your mileage may vary depending on how much you like cinnamon) to the dough, since I did like the use of cinnamon in other lembas recipes and it would play up the spice notes in the raw honey I used (Pine Barrens honey). The result was buttery and sweet, but not sickening or sugary. I think it tasted fairly Elvish, if that means anything.

    I used banana leaves for wrapping, and tied them up with raffia: https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1/1524569_633167683397113_2144360480_n.jpg

    1. dramamamafive Post author

      Wow, Thank you, thank you for all these notes about your lembas bread-making. I’ll share them with my daughter Amalia, who is really the lembas bread maker in the family. She’ll love doing some experimenting! And say, your photo with the banana leaves wrapped around the bread was really neat!

  4. Vince

    I wonder if this recipe could be made more sustaining by giving it the “Cornell bread” treatment(adding wheat germ, soy flour, and dried milk to the flour for added protein and fiber). Off to the kitchen I go…

  5. David

    This is a shortbread cookie recipe, so it is actually a pastry instead of waybread. Lembas, or elven waybread, was modeled after hardtack bread of a higher quality. Still, it’s a nice touch of LotR theme to the delicious cookie.

    1. Timothy

      David, the books never actually say that Lembas bread was similar to hardtack. Many people assume that Tolkien modeled it after hardtack, but that doesn’t mean that it was hardtack. In fact I think that the only resemblance is the long shelf life, since Gimli is quoted saying that Lembas is similar to and actually tastier than the honey-cakes that Beorn gave them, which were described as sweet and light. Traditional hardtack is more of a salty cracker, which not only doesn’t sound Elvish but also isn’t what Gimli describes. Thus I would argue that this recipe is actually more true to the book in flavor and texture, even though it probably won’t last as long on a shelf.

        1. EZ

          They’re referred to as “cakes”, so something biscuitish would be more what I would expect than hardtack or cram. I’m definitely going to try this one.

      1. Elanor

        Additionally, the elves tell the fellowship that the lembas keeps for a particularly long time *if* kept in its mallorn leaf wrappings, which has always led me to think the recipe itself needn’t be especially long-keeping like hardtack. 🙂

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    1. dramamamafive Post author

      Aren’t they delicious? I really love to drizzle a bit of honey on them while they are warm. AND they don’t need butter, but the tiniest skiff of good butter does not go amiss . . .

    1. dramamamafive Post author

      How hot does your oven get, Serena? I’d try to bake them anyway, cooler temps will just result in slower baking. Experiment and let me know what you find!

        1. Serena

          Ah that makes sense! I’m in Celsius (I did think for a moment that some conversion would be needed). Thanks! Can’t wait to try this now

  7. Christina Mondry

    This recipe is so EASY! I’m only 14 and I can make this! Can’t wait to see -and taiste- how it turns out when I make it! 🙂

    1. dramamamafive Post author

      Christina, good for you! It’s so easy that you’re going to make them again and again! If you like the recipe, check out our ebook on the subject, too: it’s full of rich and filling and easy-to-make Hobbit fare: https://gumroad.com/l/Otsk
      Oh, and send me pics and I’ll share them on my blog!

  8. Dianna

    Just made these and because my kitchen is warm, put the dough in the fridge for a few minutes to roll out easier. Delicious!!!. I may sprinkle with cinnamon sugar before baking the next time I make them.

    1. dramamamafive Post author

      Dianna, I agree that they are even more scrumptious with a bit of sweetener added. I also like to drizzle honey on top when they are warm . . . yummm . . .

  9. Ghosty

    I’ve made this so many times now! My family loves them and get really excited when i make them. even my mom, who’s really not a sweets person. They’re all LotR fans too. I use a few shakes of cinnamon and found that walnuts make them delicious! It even penetrated the phenomenon of when you make food and it tastes not as good to you but everyone else loves it. try the walnuts.

    1. dramamamafive Post author

      Walnuts sound like a perfect addition! Thank you so much! I’ll share that with my daughter, too, who makes this recipe most often in our house. Did you know that we have an ebook available with lots more Hobbit-inspired recipes? You can pick it up here: https://gumroad.com/products/Otsk/edit# Thanks again for your comment!

    1. dramamamafive Post author

      I use Fahrenheit, Lucy. But I’m sure there are calculators online that you can figure the Fahrenheit to Celsius, if need be.

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  11. Ali

    Really wanted to try this but needed to covert everything being in UK.
    Here is the conversion should anyone else need it.
    160 degrees celsius or gas mark 3

    240g butter
    90g Brown sugar
    220g flour.

    Ill let you know how we get on!

  12. Pamela

    Wow this looks great. I am going to make it as soon as I am done with this post, as well as a recipe from Vegan, Not Gross, which I have made before. I like the taste of seeds and natural things but my girls are not so enamoured of them 🙂 I am SURE that they will like Amalia’s recipe and I am looking forward to it myself. THANK YOU not only for sharing your family’s recipies but also your faith and interests. It is so great to meet another person who loves Jesus and enjoys the SciFi/Fantasy genre. We seem to be a rare breed 🙂 Thank you, Amalia, (so close to the Sindarin term “amaelin” . . . meaning “beloved”–surely not a coincidence!) for letting your Mama share your recipe!

    1. dramamamafive Post author

      Thank you for your kind words. I personally don’t see a conflict in being a believer of Jesus, and enjoying SciFi/Fantasy. J.R.R. Tolkien and C.S. Lewis were both devout Christians, and God made the final frontier, after all, strange worlds “where no man has gone before!!” 😉 You are very sweet and your suspicions that Amalia is truly beloved are spot-on. Thanks again for your comment!

  13. Pamela

    These were very good, rather reminiscent of shortbread. I used whole wheat white flour and found my dough to bit dry and crumbly, but I may have measured the butter with the wrong measuring cup! I just added a bit more butter and sugar. I will make these again and I bought your cookbook!

    1. dramamamafive Post author

      Pamela, thank you so much for purchasing our cookbook! I’d love to hear about your experiences making the recipes. Don’t you just love the white whole wheat flour? I use it all the time. Using it is a great way to get the whole wheat, without the graininess of the red wheat.

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  15. Diane

    I couldn’t find the quote, but I recall reading that lembas bread was twice baked, which sounds like biscotti. That could be another avenue for exploration.

    1. Diane

      My bad. I found the reference, but the twice baked cakes are what Beorn gave to Bilbo and the dwarves, not lembas. It would still be fun to duplicate them, though.

    1. dramamamafive Post author

      Lisa, I would recommend finding an online calculator to do those calculations for you. Easy-peasy! And good luck with the recipe!

  16. Piper

    It looks like an adapted shortbread recipe, traditionally short bread is 1/2 cup butter, 1 cup flour, 1 cup sugar.

    I would look for a way to add essential nutrients that actually stave off hunger, like using oat flour, incorporating chia and some form of protein. It won’t be as cookie like in its form, but Lembas was never supposed to be a desert. Even using sunflower seed, almond, or peanut butter in place of half the butter in the existing recipe (warning fat shortens the shelf life, but I don’t expect you plan on them lasting more than a week). Quick tip if you use almond in it, try adding 1/4 tsp of poppyseeds, they are rich in calcium, iron and magnesium. On top of that the flavor will amaze you.

  17. Justine

    I’m so glad I found this! I’m throwing a Tolkien themed party for my husband’s 40th, and all the recipes i’ve found for lembas bread are crazy. This one looks simple and sounds amazing. Will be making it this week. I’m also from Nebraska. Nice to see other Tolkien fans in the area! I’ll have to look into your book. I love to make food from literature stories.

  18. Alexis

    Looking forward to making these as food for cons!

    I was thinking of maybe stuffing them with peanut butter or lemon curd.

    Any tips on doing so?

    1. dramamamafive Post author

      Hmmm that does sound good! You might make them smaller, like a cookie size, to make it easier to slice them open for stuffing. Let me know how it turns out!

  19. Sarah

    I just finished a batch of lembas for a LOTR marathon tomorrow (I finally got a friend of mine to read the books, and now we’re watching the movies together!). I was initially skeptical because the recipe is so simple–most of the other lembas bread recipes I’ve seen have about a dozen ingredients–but it’s delicious and really easy to make. Maybe next time I’ll try adding some herbs to the dough; perhaps lavender for a sweeter, floral shortbread or a more savory basil and rosemary batch.

    1. dramamamafive Post author

      Amalia and I both discussed adding herbs to the dough, too. Have you considered buying our ebook on halfling foods? I hear that it’s quite good and you’d have many more recipes to make for your LOTR marathons! My nearly-twelve-yo son Malachi is starting to read the LOTR books. I’m so excited. I’m going to read along with him, and then we’ll watch the movies together. Probably we’ll have to make a feast to accompany our movie-watching too!

  20. Mulwahhah

    I made them for my whole family and they loved it. It is also easy to make i could make it and I’m 12. I’m making lembas with brown sugar and a little bit of honey. Btw my nickname is in dovahzul from the elder scrolls 5 skyrim it means strong to mind. You can learn the dragon language at thuum.org

  21. Matt

    Try topping them off by putting them in some green tinted wax paper (cut in squares and tilted 45 degrees to make it a diamond shape) and fold over the corners. Could also use a something more natural for the sheen and colour, like seaweed paper. But wax paper is easier/cheaper, I would suspect (and won’t go bad). Not only could you gift them away that way, but they would hold that elvish paper look too!

  22. marshall cypress

    This is a joke? right? I made these and they melted in to a mess that nearly burned.
    What I got was like a bad crumb topping to a pie.

    1. dramamamafive Post author

      Well, Marshall, you may want to double check your own method, because I’ve never (ever) heard this from anybody else who has made this recipe, including my daughter who developed it, and has made batch after batch of these with great success. Perhaps you read the recipe incorrectly. I would encourage you to try the recipe again, (or find a different one) rather than give up right away and toss insults my way.

      1. marshall cypress

        1 cup of butter is a lot, I thought there was something weird about it. when it was done it had spread out all over the pan and there was butter everywhere. Are you sure this need 1 cup? No insult was made I’ve seen lots of recipes that are mean’t as jokes, like the chain email cookie recipes that call for 2 cups of sugar and 1 cup of flour.

        nope I followed the recipe, and it just made a mess.

        1. dramamamafive Post author

          Marshall, Nope, it’s not a mistake and we’ve made this recipe over and over without any problems. I wonder if you are overbeating the dough? That can definitely cause it to spread and make a mess. Maybe try it again and handle the dough a little more gently?

  23. Linda

    Made something similar for my son’s LOTR birthday party over fifteen years ago. Wrapped the bread in slightly green tinted large very thin pancakes.

  24. Teri

    I plan on making Lembas bread for my church one Sunday, this is a big help. I do have one question however, (and please forgive the blasphemous nature of this question in regards to the canon taste of Lembas) is there a way to make it savory? Like say a butter and herb type of savory..I enjoy experimenting in the kitchen but for the life of me can’t find a way to make savory Lembas.

    1. dramamamafive Post author

      Teri, great question! I think the easiest thing to do would be to experiment. If I were going to make it savory, I might add some sauteed and very finely diced onions, and herbs . . . sprinkle with salt and parmesan cheese? It will be a totally different type of bread, of course, but who knows? It might be very tasty!

  25. Jimi

    Thanks for the idea. I added sunflower seeds and cranberries into it and it came out wonderful (I also used a half/half mixture of the brown sugar and honey).

  26. Jötunn

    Preheat oven to 325 degrees? Are you insane? Most ovens can’t heat to 325°C. And if they do, then the bread won’t survive that for 25 minutes

    If you are using exotic units, then maybe at least mention that?

    1. Ashton

      It’s in Fahrenheit, not Celsius! It’s an American woman’s blog, it’s all American measurements. Might be the first time I’ve heard Fahrenheit referred to as “exotic”

  27. Victor

    Found this looking for a recipe for Lembas Bread.
    Went to the Second Breakfast blog (in xmas 2019) and found it enchanting.
    Picked up the Halfling’s Pantry and found it to be the best online purchase novelty cookbook ever.
    Even though the blog is no longer active, I highly recommend this cookbook for the cost. It’s got some extraordinary recipes in it.
    10/10, would randomly google again.

    1. dramamamafive Post author

      Thank you Victor. I shared your thoughtful comment with my daughter Amalia, the co-author of the Halfling recipe book, and the author of the Second Breakfast blog. That cookbook is a labor of love from the both of us. We love to cook and bake, and working together on that cookbook was a blessed process for both of us (at least for me, ha!). Thanks again.

  28. Steph

    I’m thinking about trying these with a bit of cardamom spice instead of cinnamon… And then w/o for comparison of course 🙂 Hubby and I both love LoTR. They sound delicious.

  29. Bianca

    Tried it and it would bond and ends up as a sandy, crumbling mixture.
    Not sure it is the butter not bonding or the flour lacking something.

    If the recipe is supposed to be that crumbly, then it is not as ‘easy’ or ‘simple’ as advertised.
    Just sharing my experience from following the recipe.

    1. dramamamafive Post author

      Bianca, a number of things could be happening to keep your dough from sticking together.
      1. Was your butter too cold? It should be warm enough to be creamy, which will help with the bonding process.
      2. Did you measure the flour carefully? Even just a little bit too much will make a difference.
      3. Did you overwork the dough? like pie pastry, you want to handle it just as little as possible.
      I would guess that if you made it a second time, employing these tips, you would have great success! Good luck!

  30. Rebecca

    Hi, Going to try and make this for the first time but I am not a baker at all. What will happen if I use bleached flour instead? Thank you!

  31. Kacey

    The recipe I know includes flour, baking powder, salt, cold butter, brown sugar, cinnamon, maple syrup, vanilla, and milk (or cream). Its always turned out perfect & delicious. This recipe didn’t turn out well at all for me when I tried it, so I’ll stick to the one I know.

  32. Caitlin

    I was scrolling Google for Lembas Bread recipes, and I was excited to see the name Amalia! I’ve named my younger daughter (4) that, and it seems to be a not-too-common name, so it stands out to me when I see it. And she’s literarily inclined, as well, which is even better. My older daughter (6) is named Menolly after a book character.

    I can’t wait to try the recipe! Thank you so much for figuring it out.

    1. dramamamafive Post author

      I hope you love the recipe and that it works out well for you. I love the name Amalia, as well. We pulled it out of a book (“Spring Comes on Forever,” by Bess Street Aldrich) and I daresay even Amalia herself if quite fond of it.

  33. XxCreativeMindsxX

    I ADORE THESE! They taste amazing and bring a bit of magic and feeling of middle earth right into our everyday life! Thanks so much 😀

  34. XxCreativeMindsxX

    I love this recipe! As a big lord of the rings fan I am very happy to have found it! Is there any ideas on dips or coverings like chocolate or honey? Thanks so much!

  35. Gentleman Jester

    I, a Scotsman, foolishly thought that the oven temperature was in Celsius. Since my oven only goes up to 250 degrees Celsius, I put it to that and decided to add about 5 minutes to the baking time.

    When I came through to check on them 20 minutes later, I saw a light fog in the living room. I go to the kitchen, open up the oven, and am blasted in the face with smoke.

    The Lembas Bread was blackened. I’m about to nip out and get some more butter to give it a second try, THIS TIME putting the oven at the 160~ degrees that it should be at.

    1. dramamamafive Post author

      OH, goodness, I’m so sorry, GentJest!
      I ought to get into the habit of reminding my gentle readers that I write my recipes in American measurements & in Fahrenheit, not Celsius!

  36. Kally

    How much calories are in this? Besides that this is a really great recipe. My sister and father are really big Lord of the Rings fans, so I decided to try it. It tastes AWESOME. Highly recommend, thank your daughter for me. If your doubting making this don’t, I bet you’ll like it. Thank you!!!

    1. dramamamafive Post author

      Kally, in the spirit of the Shire, I’ve never figured out calorie counts! But I’m so happy that you enjoyed the recipe and that your sis and dad liked it too. I’ll pass along your compliments to my daughter Amalia!

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Current situation and wish list

Currently the economic system is quite limited (as far as playing the game has showed me). Only the player himself (or herself of course) is actually trading goods. To create a more dynamic universe, the economy has to be extended in such a way that NPC (i.e. non-player characters, the computer-players) are also able to influence it. This will require quite some extensions. Ideas about a new economic system will be posted here and can of course be discussed.

Future economy

The future economy should be more dynamic in the sense that not only the human player does trading, but the various computer players also participate. To create this, there are a number of changes required. Note that the changes described here are without any knowledge about the actual code, so there may be errors in this describtion.

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2) Is there a limit to the amount of products e.g. a miningbase can produce as this will result in bases being abandoned when resources are depleted.

The probable course to follow for these problems is to start with bases without any limits. Introducing limits will spawn the need to add the option to start new bases on e.g. asteroids with valuable resources, which is a large project itself.

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Reworking the Vega Strike Economy: A Three-Fold Approach

After extended discussions, a potential dynamic economy has been developed. The proposed approach requires three areas of development. See forum threads - old (2008-2011), new (2014).

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There are several points in this system that underlie the three parts of development. Any attempt at a realistic economy must include Supply and Demand Dynamics. Also implied, is that the distance goods must be transported as well as the risk in that transportation influences the price. The price, availability, and faction deployment of ships and equipment depends on manufacturing sites and overall market conditions. The manufacture of goods causes prices to reflect the cost of the goods needed to make them. Manufactured quantities of goods changes with demand. Bases are simulated separately. Traffic patterns and trade levels change to indicate the current market. Factions and corporations can alter the economy by supporting various projects. A final tweak suggested is that there is a range of population densities, radiating out from core systems, rather than the current random distribution. These have several interplays leading to the three-fold approach.

Changes to the main VS program are needed for the universe to respond to economic changes. These include polling of the current economic factors in ship locations and numbers. When major economic changes evolve out of the simulation the news reports on it. The strength of factions is largely influenced by their economic standing. Likely also included here are the population distributions.

 There also needs to be developed for the program a routine to calculate present supply/demand levels.

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On November 1st, from 9:00 a.m. to 11:00 a.m., St. Louis Community College will host a Precision Machining Technology (PMT) Open House in the Emerson Center for Engineering and Manufacturing on the Florissant Valley campus. Interested individuals should plan to join current students, program instructors, and Engineering Technology staff to hear about the details of this program and career opportunities in advanced manufacturing.

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SDCC 2019: New Animated Show Star Trek: Lower Decks Unveiled in Hall H

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Fans in Hall H were given the first look at the new 30 minutes animated show Star Trek: Lower Decks, coming to CBS All Access in 2020. Creator and executive producer Mike McMahan (Rick and Morty) was joined onstage by co-executive producers Alex Kurtzman and Heather Kadin, along with cast members Tawny Newsome, Jack Quaid, and Jerry O’Connell, who also moderated.

McMahan explained that this show, taking place in 2380, will focus on four ensigns on a “not important ship in Starfleet”, a California class ship called the U.S.S. Cerritos. It will be social, emotional, sci-fi, and will “feel very Starfleet”. It’s a comedy, but “the comedy does not come from punching down on Trek”, it will feel like a Star Trek show. There will be “jokes and jokes” for the fans McMahan explained, like Odo’s bucket for example, but that “you don’t need to know” anything about it to enjoy the show.

“It’s that shared experience of making new fans while we’re making it,” he added. The show is meant for “anybody who loves Star Trek and wants to explore more of it,” he said, and Kadin added, “But also…people who haven’t had an entry point into Star Trek yet this should be your show”. They’re hoping it will make people want to see more star trek.

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McMahan said he was always there for the B-stories. “Riker’s trapped on a planet with his transporter clone, great I love that. But Data and Geordi are writing a play and they’re getting in a fight about it? I love that stuff.”

Lower Decks main cast of characters include:

Ensign Beckett Mariner, voiced by Tawny Newsome:

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Newsome explained her character saying, “She’s very good at all things Starfleet, she just doesn’t care. She’s been demoted a ton of times, she should be way further in the ranks than she is,” said Tawny.

Ensign Brad Boimler, voiced by Jack Quaid:

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Quaid talked about his character saying, “He’s basically the opposite of Mariner. He’s very by the book. He really wants to be a captain, but he’s constantly getting in his own way. He would nail the written portion of the driving test, but once it got to him actually being the car it would fast be a complete and total disaster.”

Ensign Tendi, voiced by Noël Wells:

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McMahan explained, “It’s her first day on the ship in the pilot. She was a huge Starfleet fan, so being on the ship, every day just blows her mind. She works in the medical bay and there’s no gross alien illness that she’s not just absolutely thrilled to be dealing with.”

Ensign Rutherford, voiced by Eugene Cordero:

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McMahan explained this character as well saying, “He is our engineer, and like Geordi La Forge he’s amazing at engineering stuff, but unlike Geordi La Forge he does not solve the problems by the end of every episode. He’s got this cyborg implant on his head that he just got, and it’s like when you get a new phone…that’s him but with how he thinks.”

McMahan also introduced the bridge crew saying they “consider it to be their show, even though it’s not, [but] they don’t know that.”

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In speaking of the importance of making a new generation of Star Trek fans, Kurtzman said that “people have perceived that Trek is limited in what it can be, and our thesis is that it has to be what it has always been to everybody but it can also be more. It can expand. It has to be a show for the fans first and foremost, but we want to bring in so many other people…there really has never been an initiative to get to kids when they were younger. Trek is an amazing thing that teaches you how to be a better person in the world, and that has incredible values, and that talks about the importance of diversity, and the importance of caring about other people, and all of these really…essential things that people should be hearing about and knowing about early in their lives, so that we can make the world a better place.”

Kurtzman had one more announcement for the panel, that there is finally going to be an official Star Trek podcast, hosted by Tawny Newsome. He said that “we’ll bring in people who are involved in the show, but we also want to bring people who’ve been deeply influenced by Star Trek, and talk about its influence on science and everything in the world. The cultural conversation that Trek has enabled for so long needs to be loud and strong and proud and that’s what this podcast is going to be.”


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Sunday, March 15, 2015

Our Star!

Taylor always gets out of Sunday dinner clean-up by baking the bread/rolls.  Tonight, Parker asked if he could get out of it too by playing us a song.  Parker is usually so, so shy about playing/singing, so we jumped at the chance--telling him it was a deal if he let us record and share.  I can't believe he said yes!!!  We're proud of you, Park:)

PS.  Loved the way Graci spontaneously went to share the experience with sweet Lexi.  Grace is an AMAZING big sister!!!

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Christi and I were asked to speak for a missionary preparation class today.  We shared a message about how working through challenging times can help us grow and develop spiritually.  As part of the presentation we showed this video that Christi put together.  We've posted a version of this before, but this has been updated:


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Sunday, November 20, 2011

Critical Mess tells Mattel Who's Who in the Legion!

Just thought I'd let AFB readers know that I'm moonlighting over at Critical Mess at the moment, helping to write up a follow up series to the "Dear Mattel, The Legion Should Be...." set of articles I worked on with fellow Legion enthusiasts JQ and KCekada some time ago.

In light of the success of Mattel's Legion of Superheroes 12-Pack, we've joined up again, this time with the addition of newer CM member Hyperion, to give our views on the choices and styles for the remaining Legion members - which we are now more hopeful than ever to finally see in plastic form!

The article is here (currently we're up to my favourite Legionnaire, Phantom Girl) and you can check back every few days for a new update!

fishmilkshake said...

You go Andy!!

Adam said...

Nice to see some legion ladies getting recommendations. that 12-pack was a hell of a boys club.

Polarboy said...

defiantly need the girls, and the subs of course

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I float through blushing sunset, breathe
in the surrounding serene. In my mind’s
eye a strong desire arises, ‘to let juvenile
life become a lasting dream.’

Perpetually swaying amid waving water
lilies, hear rustling behind roof of leaves
dazed by sounds of woodland creatures.
For a second, I thought of running away
but then remembered fear’s a beast that
feeds on attention.

To my delight, the creatures bowed and
played, we feed on cantaloupe in cavern
where we lay. Fragrant gales, embraced
my naked flesh, I pluck out wildflowers,
and turn them into mesh.

Just then, the soul awakes.

Photo credits: Henri Rousseau

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  1. This is quite luscious, Sanaa. You have inhabited the painting with all its rigorous colours and textures – part fear and part freedom.

  2. I love the entire poem, especially the last line. In a way, it lets me imagine that even though the soul awoke from the wonderful dream, there is a chance that the flesh can still feel its pleasures.

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Week 3 of my PPC challenge, I thought I’d keep a little day to day note of how I felt about things every day. Just for a bit of insight into the self doubt!

Day 1 – Started off the week feeling disheartened after a weekend of zero sales! Shattered, kids awful. But nevertheless I cranked out two new mini campaigns and did not enjoy it at all. The campaigns get a few clicks immediately. I go to bed feeling quite excited. I’m sure there’ll be a sale from somewhere in the morning

Day 2 – Still no new sales. God I suck, I really don’t know what the point of this is. Why are there no conversions? Really disheartened. I log into Facebook to distract myself from my feelings of impending failure. Everyone’s just been paid FFS. What’s the issue here!! But I’ve been here before. I get disheartened and stop the project. Two months later, everything’s working marvellous and I SHOULD NOT HAVE STOPPED. With great reluctance, I get my hour done and pop up 5 new adgroups.

Day 3 – sigh. Not a new penny. Also, discovered I’d stuffed up and left the “search partners” option activated on Bing. No wonder my click levels have been fluctuating madly. Now resolved. However, It did make me realise I’ve added a lotta adgroups since the start of my project. I’m up to over 120 now. I’ve popped up another 5 adgroups today to add into the campaign I did yesterday.

Day 4 – Small commission made, One new campaign set up. I only managed one Adgroup due to the time it took me to find the appropriate test areas to start off in. The merchant site I chose wasn’t in one of my “preferred” niche areas so I had to cope with a little bit of unfamiliarity.

Week 3 Results

Total Clicks: 111

Total Cost £15.97

Total Revenue £12.80

Loss: £3.17

Cumulative Results

Total Clicks: 238

Total Revenue: £31.91

Total Loss: £3.54

The Swear Jar is Rammed To Bursting

This right here is the point at which this sort of promotion drives you freaking batty! All the revenues over the three weeks have come from different places. What performed in Week 1 has died in week 2 & 3, or the traffic has vanished. Some of the new things I’ve added which make up the extra traffic have volume but have done nothing. I’ve been doing a lot of silent swearing under my breath this week as I check my stats, and really feel a bit disheartened. I’ve only spent £3.54 on all this though and I’ve gained 238 data gathering opportunities on the click front. I can’t see any reason to not just keep pushing on.

Giving My Work Time To Succeed

A lot of what these campaigns need is simply time. Bing in particular takes weeks for PPC to bed in. I’m also only using phrase and exact match for my little experiment as I mentioned in week 1. That does mean volume will fluctuate, as I have found you do need to venture into broad match with modifiers to really get the old Bing volume flowing. However, I’m not doing that until I can see who is converting as it’s fairly labour intensive to manage that traffic stream initially.

What I’m Doing in Wk 4

I said that in week 3 I’d be honing things, I didn’t do that. I added a new merchant every day because I remembered I am going on holiday this coming week. I won’t add in new things on holiday, and I won’t be doing my hour a day challenge in it’s full form. My kids will be in a log cabin with me, and I am incapable of concentrating on being creative around them. Also, they should get to enjoy a bit of Mum time without the “Shh. Working!” thing happening. I will spend time doing bid management and negatives though, when my darlings go to sleep.

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P 13th April 2019 - 1:12 am

Hi Kirsty,

Without giving away details of products

Are you directly linking from the bing ad to your own website and making the affiliate sale that way or are you linking directly from the ad to the merchant?
Just wondering that as I read through your articles?

KirstyM 13th April 2019 - 2:38 pm

Hi John, Yep. I’m direct linking!

John 17th April 2019 - 12:37 am

Hi Kirsty,

Thanks for letting me know. Never realised you could do that on Bing!
By the way it is great to see your blog back in action I used to come here 9 years ago to learn all about this affiliate marketing stuff where I found you via an affiliate forum that is no longer in existence!
Keep up the great posts and good luck in the next chapter!

KirstyM 17th April 2019 - 11:17 am

Hi John, You’re very welcome – it can indeed be done. Bing is a bit more forgiving than Google too. Glad you’re enjoying the blog being back, I have been meaning to restart it for the longest time. In the end I had to decide just to crack on with content and not worry how the site looked. There’s lots of posts to be re-worked, and new ideas in the pipeline. Stay tuned!!

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These sims depict the damage per second a priest can pump out in pure-damage mode.  These simulated priests aren't healing at all.  They do nothing but cast their DoT's, cast their nukes, self torpor/cannibalize (shamans only) or meditate.  The results are graphed.

Note that cleric damage isn't accurate, because I have no good numbers for cleric melee damage with the new proc hammers.  These graphs only show cleric nuke damage.

Also note that shaman DoT's are used, and shaman DoT's are taunting.  It takes a high quality crazy glue warrior to prevent the shaman from becoming the tank when using these DoT's, so this damage isn't particularly realistic.  That said, it looks like (from analyzing spdat modifications) shaman DoT's in PoP will be significantly less taunting than current versions.  In particular they do not have an initial hit, nor do they have very many poison/disease counters, both of which are major factors in DoT taunt.  Shamans may very well be able to pump out high damage per second in PoP without gaining aggro, but we'll have to see.

Rain spells are graphed, but since they can't be used in every situation, they're simulated seperately from non-rain damage.  Not everyone has their ancient nuke/DoT, so that too is simulated seperately.

Clarifications: All DD damage, by druids and clerics, is increased by 10% from focus items and 7% from crits (Spell Casting Fury 3).  This was originally part of the sims, but wasn't mentioned anywhere.  Oddly enough, the supposed lack of the 7% damage increase from crits was one of the primary shaman objections, even though it would be trivial to look at the graphs and mentally adjust them up 7% (don't do it though, as I said, it's already included).

The actual calculation is to multiply by 1.1, then multiply by 1.07...which actually results in a slightly higher number than what's currently live, because the way these things are calculated was changed.  But it's pretty close.

These damage calculations lack these features, that I can think of off the top of my head:

  • Melee haste (shaman)
  • Pet (shaman primarily, druids to a lesser extent, cleric pet takes mana and is more of a nuke/DoT)
  • Druid epic (I should really add this, but I forgot to)
  • Damage shields (hard to quantify, but it definitely adds damage to druids)
  • Cleric melee (I have no numbers for this)
And probably some other things.  Shamans also objected about the missing items above, except that oddly enough, no shaman objected that their pet was not included.  Shaman pets, from the last time I parsed one, do about 10 dps.  However, due perhaps to leash laws, shamans rarely use them.

I've added another sim to the list, the short damage (fights less than 1 minute) sim.  This cuts out any DoT's longer than 60 seconds, i.e., Pox.  When doing this, I noticed that the sim shaman was using up all his mana on Ice Blast instead of keeping the more effecient DoT's active, so I changed the script so he would only Ice Blast only if he had excessive mana, and damage/sec went up.  That's the problem with simulated shaman, they aren't very bright.  I said simulated shaman!  No flames please.

I updated the original sim the same way (smarter shaman).

These sims don't count resists, but neither do they count resist debuffs.

Sim shaman was using his epic in the fast damage simulation, even though he shouldn't have.  I took it away, and sent him to his sim room.

Added a 'nukes only' simulation.  As the name suggests, this compares the classes in situations where the only damage spells they use are nukes (Moonfire, Ice Strike, and Judgement).

The DoT simulations assume that the shaman casts a new DoT every time the old one wears off, but in real situations, it may be possible to cast the same DoT again early (if a second mob joins the fight), or it may not be possible to cast it when it expires (because the mob is near death, and no new mob has arrived).

What this means is that the first few minutes show maximum damage/sec, but only if fighting one target the whole time.  In some situations it won't be accurate.  The 20 minute value is accurate for one mob or multiple mobs, since the real priest can cast just as many DoT's as the simulated priest - he just isn't likely to cast them in exactly the same order, at exactly the same times.  The real priest can also avoid the aggro generated by the simulated priest, by not casting all the DoT's on one target.

Depending on the situation, it may not be possible to use all the DoT's the simulation shows, in which case some mix between the all-DoT simulation and the all-nuking simulation is closer to reality.

For example, shaman DoT's can be particularly taunting, so in a group where there is no strong tank, a shaman trying to do primarily damage will likely cast one or zero DoT's per mob, and mostly nuke.  In this situation, it's the nuking-only sim that makes sense.

Congratulatate sim druid, today he completed his epic!

Sim druid now uses his epic in all damage sims except nuke-only.  In the one minute fight sim, the epic effect lasts only one minute.

Nothing surprising here.  Or rather, it's surprising, but we already knew that shaman mana regeneration is significantly higher than that for any other priest, so it's expected that they dominate the graphs in long term damage.  The quantity of damage is, however, quite surprising: shamans can exceed 100dps sustained for long periods of time, even with only (FT+MC)8 and no mana regen buffs of any kind.

Note that 100% fighting is not possible in the real world (I enjoy using the phrase 'real world' to describe a game - I don't know why).  In practice, there is time lost while mobs are being pulled, during buffing, etc.  That time translates into higher real dps for casters relative to melees.  At the same time, the above graphs assume zero resists, and in practice, resists happen.  Thus it's hard to use any graphs showing caster dps in a meaningful way when comparing to melee damage.

In situations where there is some downtime, the shaman advantage grows, because shaman mana regeneration is directly proportional to how much time a shaman has to cast cannibalize IV and torpor.  It's the conflict between the cast time of mana regeneration spells and the cast time of damage/healing spells that led me to create simulations instead of attempting to calculate mana regen and multiply it by effeciency.  The actual values in are necessarily different, because the more heals/DoT's casted, the less time there is to cannibalize.

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Wednesday, April 3, 2013

Joyful, Patient, Faithful.

Be JOYFUL in hope.
Be PATIENT in affliction.
Be FAITHFUL in prayer.
Romans 12:12

This has been my prayer for myself lately. I think it needs to be my life verse. Seriously it sums up perfectly the way I need to be living. I'm not always these things, but I want to be. Things that I want so much to describe who I am. How I am remembered or thought of. And more than that they are what I NEED to be.

I'm not always the person I want to be. I'm not always joyful, I can find myself being consumed with bitterness, and grumpiness. I can find the bad and fault in anyone and anything. Ew what an ugly quality to have right? I don't want to be that way anymore, or look at things that way. I want to see the way God sees. And love the way God loves. Of course I wont be naive to the bad, but I need to stop dwelling on it. I want to find the joy and be joyful too, a lot more often than I have.

I'm so not as patient as I would like to be. I'll admit I'm getting better and I have been catching myself a lot lately and having to apologize A LOT. Mostly to my kids.You know when you pray to God as ask for patience, he doesn't just GIVE you patience, he gives you opportunities in which to show patience. And boy have I failed a lot at those opportunities. But at least now my eyes have been opened to see them that way. As opportunities. And I am getting better.

Faithful. I'd like to think of all these things, this would be the one I am best at. But we can always be more prayerful. I love that my beautiful friend Andrea, has committed to being more prayerful. She has text me and even put a call out on facebook asking for prayers, that she keeping track of. What a wonderful prayer warrior she is. And what an example she has set for me. ♥ Love her. My friends, prayer is powerful. I know I need to also commit to be faithful in prayer like that. I dont think there is such a thing as too prayerful. ;)

Proverbs 4:23
Above all else, guard your heart for everything you do flows from it.

THIS verse has been my prayer for my daughter (And all my children/nieces & nephews really) lately. I know the pressure to stay pure is hard for kids these days, I can hardly believe the stuff Ive seen online from children these day! Its shocking and awful. I know that makes me sound so old - I don't care. So my biggest prayer for my children is this; to guard their hearts. There is so much temptation in this world. Being respectful, modest, having manners and such seems rare these days. I'd like my kids to stay among the minority there. Anyone else?

Anyways... So I bought these necklaces as pretty little reminders for us. I have very much so fallen in love with just about every item from Show & Tell Faith Jewelry. And you all know how much I enjoy jewelry that has meaning. If you are like me, you may want to check them out. ♥

What Im Wearing:
Shirt: Old Navy
Skinnies: Walmart
Booties: Target
My necklace Pendant: Show & Tell Faith
Kiah's Shirt: Target
Kiah's Necklace: Show & Tell Faith

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  1. Oh my totally made me cry!!! I am still praying for you! I love that you and Kiah have those necklaces...I can not wait to meet her in 24 days!!!! Love that you got some leopard pants...I have a greyish black pair from O.N. Love them!

  2. Tha "Patient in affliction" pretty much sums it up for me right now. Thanks for reminding me :)

    Kali Now Living

  3. What a great verse, thank you for sharing<3 I think most of us have work to do in these areas, I certainly do!

  4. This post sums up completely what I have been feeling lately!It coculdn't have been said better!
    Feel free to follow me if you'd like, we have a lot of similar interests!

    God Bless!

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