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Tuesday, September 13, 2011

New giveaway! Enter for a chance to win Bridge to a Distant Star by Carolyn Williford

Sorry about the delay for the contest this week, folks. There was a snafu in the schedule. Back on track now...

For a chance to enter the drawing to win this book simply post a comment that answers this question... Do you like reading books that have more than one story in them, or do you prefer them separate? Again, combined installations in one book, or separate volumes in a series? And why do you prefer the stories that way? I'll pick a winner using the Randomizer program on Sunday. Best wishes to you.

Bridge to a Distant Star: A NovelAbout the book:

It All Comes Tumbling Down

As a storm rages in the night, unwary drivers venture onto Tampa Bay’s most renowned bridge. No one sees the danger ahead. No one notices the jagged gap hidden by the darkness and rain. Yet when the bridge collapses vehicles careen into the churning waters of the bay below.

In that one catastrophic moment, three powerful stories converge: a family ravaged by their child’s heartbreaking news, a marriage threatened by its own facade, and a college student burdened by self doubt. As each story unfolds, the characters move steadily closer to that fateful moment on the bridge. And while each character searches for grace, the storms in their lives loom as large as the storm that awaits them above the bay.

When these characters intersect in Carolyn Williford’s gripping and moving volume of three novellas, they also collide with the transforming truth of Christ: Deny yourself, take up your cross, and follow me.

My thoughts:

I haven't read this book so I can't give an opinion. Sorry.

Judy said...

Actually, I like them both ways. Books with more than one story in them works great when you don't have a lot of time to read. You finish a story and then you can put it down for awhile if need be. I also like the series with separate volumes. It keeps the excitement going waiting for the next book to be released. Some times if it is too long before releases one kind of forgets and needs maybe to re-read the previous book.

apple blossom said...

I don't mind having more than one book in a cover. then I feel like i'm getting 2 for 1 more for my money. :-)

ABreading4fun [at] gmail [dot] com

Andrea said...

I love to read anything! My preference would have to be one storyline simply because the books would tend to be longer. But I also have several novellas and anthologies that I enjoy, especially for quick and easy reading. I am not picky as long as there is a good story! Thanks for the giveaway.

Tore said...

It depends on the story but I like it both ways. Please enter me in contest. I can't wait to read this book.

karenk said...

i enjoy reading stories within stories...great question.

kmkuka at yahoo dot com

Michelle Sutton said...

and the winner is... Tore!

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Does Ireland Need a Bailout?; GM Revival?

Aired November 17, 2010 - 14:00:00   ET

RICHARD QUEST, HOST: The financial troika is coming as Ireland insists it does not need a bailout.

The survival and revival of GM, it is getting ready for that record IPO.

And Starbucks' CEO says they'll grow their own coffee to keep growing.

I'm Richard Quest. We have an hour together, and I mean business.

Good evening.

Officials are on a support mission to Ireland as pressure mounts on the debt-laden nation to accept a bailout. A team from Europe and the IMF will land in Dublin on Thursday. They will ask to see the books and they will assess the extent of the damage to Ireland's battered banking sector. Working out how much help Ireland may need if the country decides to ask for it. The country's prime minister, the Taoiseach, says there is no question of a bailout. Nevertheless the economics affairs commissioner of the EU, Olli Rehn, says it is best to be prepared.

OLLI REHN, EU COMMISSIONER FOR ECONOMIC AND FINANCIAL AFFAIRS: The Irish authorities are committed to intensify this work, now with the commission, vis-a-vis the IMF, to determine the best way to provide any necessary support to address market risks, especially as it cuts the banking sector. And as I said last night, this can be considered as an intensification of preparations for a potential program if requested by the Irish government and if deemed necessary by the euro area member states.

QUEST: Ireland is not an urgent need of cash. It won't need to borrow on the markets until next year, fully funded until mid-2011. The Irish finance minister say that at the moment no funds need to change hands. The EU simply needs to open the suitcase and show the markets the money.

So, will Ireland finally agree that it is time to put in place some sort of standby loan? Jim Boulden is our correspondent and is in the Irish capital of Dublin this evening, and joins me.

Jim, will they call it something else, but it is a bailout by any other name?

JIM BOULDEN, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, they're not going to use the term, "bailout" tomorrow, Richard. I can tell you the prime minister just went on television again here, in Ireland. And went to great pains to try to explain what's going here and what these talks on Thursday will be about. And he said, what they're going to do is have discussions of a technical nature. That's his term.

He said it is not negotiations and it is certainly not going to be discussions or negotiations about a bailout. He says the first step needs to be these technical discussions with these experts from the IMF and experts from the ECB, to go over the books. To talk about what specifically is the problem with the Irish banks. He said then once the government understands all the details after that.

I think I've got it now, Richard. Tomorrow, technical details, discussions, not negotiations, not yet.

QUEST: Right. But, Jim, why would Ireland be so reluctant to even put in place what the IMF used to call standby agreement, some form of facility just in case?

BOULDEN: The prime minister has said, again tonight, he's not going to say what his bottom line is. What his negotiating position is, because of two things. One, there are always strings attached with IMF money. Would that include having to change his budget deficit projections, having to be even more severe in any kind of four-year plan that is going to come out in the next two weeks, about what more severe cuts to the Irish budget.

Secondly, will it have to change its corporate tax rate? That is very important in this. We know that Ireland has a lower corporate tax rate than much of Europe, and it has been a great advantage for the Irish economy. In the 1990s all these American companies, Dell, Intel, etc cetera, moved here and set up because of a low corporate tax rate. There are some people who think that Ireland will have to give up that low corporate tax rate and that the opposition parties say that is a loss of sovereignty. And it is a very, very, technical issue here, and a very important issue.

QUEST: Jim Boulden who is in Dublin for us tonight.

Now Ireland, of course, shares a border with the United Kingdom to the north of the island, Northern Ireland. And the British Finance Minister George Osborne today extended the hand of friendship. Although, Britain would not be part any European Stability Fund bailout. Osborne told reporters that Britain would support Ireland's attempts to stabilize the banking system on a bilateral basis.

GEORGE OSBORNE, BRITISH FINANCE MINISTER: We are going to do what is in Britain's national interests. Ireland is our closest neighbor and it is in Britain's national interest that Irish economy is successful and we have a stable banking system. So Britain stands ready to support Ireland in the steps that it needs to take to bring about that stability.

QUEST: George Osborne, the U.K. finance minister.

What happens next is the subject of that tug of war between the better-off nations and those that are most indebted. And arguably the person with the single-most power is Angela Merkel, the German chancellor. Now, Mrs. Merkel is getting increasingly obstreperous when it comes to other members of the European Union. A variety of issues have all meant that she's found herself on the single-handed side. For instance, her decision to go hell for leather and suggest that bunde holders must be part of any bailout system. Finally, of course, they all had to agree this would only happen in the forward looking, not retrospectively. Therefore bond holders would not be at risk necessarily in the Irish system.

But that was only of the situations where the Chancellor Merkel has been so difficult in the eyes of her Euro colleagues. She helmed the Greek bailout. She was the one on Germany's behalf that resisted a bailout, said it wasn't necessary. Said the EU had no authority to do it until finally it looked as if the whole thing was going to come down around their ears. And she relented and went for the bailout. Many people say it was her delay in agreeing to it or going along with it that led to so much more damage.

And, of course, to do these bailouts and the European Stability Fund she is demanding and has demanded a Lisbon treaty amendment, which of course has opened up an entirely new can of worms. So, is Mrs. Merkel a woman of principle, or is she truculent and difficult? Let's talk to Daniel Gros, the director of the Center For European Policy Studies, who joins me via broadband from Brussels.

Which is it, truculent or woman of principles?

DANIEL GROS, DIRECTOR, CENTER FOR EUROPEAN POLICY STUDIES: A woman of principle and possibly (ph) a woman who doesn't understand how the financial markets work. And that is why we have possibly the trouble that we have today. She doesn't understand that she cannot announce to the markets, we might have something which provided we have a haircut in a few years down the road. Because markets when they hear that they are taking flight and they are selling the big (ph) bonds and other bonds (INAUDIBLE).

QUEST: Now, I was particularly attracted to your comments quoted in this morning's "Financial Times" when you said that other-"that within the Brussels community and within other nations what is being said about Mrs. Merkel is unprincipled." What did you mean?

GROS: Well, there is of course resentment in very wide quarters with the other finance ministers, central banks, who think that opening discussion on possible losses by private investors, was the wrong thing to do and that exaggerates the problems. That is true.

There is also a wider agreement that this has to come, sooner or later. The only problem is let's not talk about them. Let's do it. One day it has to be done. Pretty much everybody agrees on that. But everybody says, please don't talk about it.

QUEST: But you can't ignore the German government and the German government's position, can you? The truth is the largest contributor of the budget, the largest single European economy, the headquarters of the ECB is based there. And I'm not being discourteous to Mrs. Merkel, but where does the 500-pound gorilla sit? Where ever it wants to.

GROS: Exactly. She (UNINTELLIGIBLE) and that is what the others present. Even if in the long term she is right. But others are saying, please, don't talk about it. Let's not talk about it now. But especially, the Irish, the Portuguese, the Greeks. I think after if she hadn't talked about it then it would be all (UNINTELLIGIBLE). Maybe a little bit, but not much.

QUEST: All right. Daniel, let's finish this discussion tonight. How much is there a feeling in Brussels tonight that the euro project, if not in danger, is at least on very shaky ground. The Euro Zone is on shaky ground, and the risk of contagion is critical.

GROS: Oh, yes. Anybody knows that we are skating on very thin ice. That we can say Ireland and Portugal, but what next? And then there might be a really big crisis. Nobody thinks of the Euro Zone will actually break apart, but they might have such a big crisis the Germans and others will have to stand up even more money. That the ECB will have to be called in, and perhaps, at that point we can get a realistic (ph) solution.

QUEST: Daniel, lovely to talk to you. You and I will talk again, no doubt, on these issues. Daniel Gros joining me from Brussels.

Now that mission to Ireland, well, it doesn't arrive until tomorrow. But it has reassured investors. The banks felt the benefit in Dublin. Allied Irish and BOI, both picked up healthy gains. Irish Life and IFG Group, provided financial services, also ended the day higher. Europe's main markets also made gentle progress. Banks provided some support, Farmer were also amongst the gainers.

The Dow Jones in New York at the moment, very briefly update you on that. It is hardly worth mentioning. It is up just 4 points.

In a moment, the Irish, like the Greeks, are on a path to near or complete insolvency. That is according to the article I read earlier today. The Irish issues, it also says, should Europe speed its default plan. Now, this article, that I posted at Twitter.com/RichardQuest. This article is by Nouriel Roubini and when Nouriel writes something of interest like this, then it is well worth us having a look at it.

The argument is simple. The default is better to happen sooner than later, and it would be easier to get it over and done with. Read the article and become a friend and join the debate.

A bit of Eastern promise for Starbucks. It is seeing China as a fertile ground. The chief exec talks on changing tastes and growing beans. QUEST MEANS BUSINESS, good evening.

QUEST: Starbucks, the coffee company, is getting self sufficient for the first time in its 40-year history. It is going to grow some of its own beans. Revolutionary stuff, you may say. Starbucks will start its coffee farm and this, perhaps, is the most revolutionary bit in China's Yunnan Province.

Now, look at this, and it makes it clear. Starbucks, at the moment, in China has 800 stores, in greater China, in the whole of greater China. Compare that to 13,700 stores in North America. And you can start to see the potential for growth, not only for the consumer of the coffee, but also for the growers of the beans, particularly, if those beans will be used in homegrown coffee.

CNN's Stan Grant, in China, asked Starbucks Chief Exec Howard Schultz, how he goes about giving a traditionally tea-loving nation that Starbucks Coffee buzz.

HOWARD SCHULTZ, CEO, STARBUCKS COFFEE: Well, in many ways we have already begun doing it. We have been here for 12 years now. With 400 stores in the mainland, 800 stores in greater China, the business is profitable. And I think, most importantly, the Chinese consumer has embraced Starbucks as their own.

STAN GRANT, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: But what is it about the Chinese that has changed. Is it just that they are wealthier? That they are more sophisticated? Their tastes are changing? What do you put it down to?

SCHULTZ: I think it is a few things. One, obviously, there is a tremendous size, in terms of the aspirational middle class. The numbers of people who have access to disposable income, and also they are quite familiar with Western brands. One of the things that surprised us the most is how aware they were of Starbucks before we got here. And how fast they embraced change is another thing that has really surprised us. People were drinking black coffee when we got here. Now they are drinking cafe latte, and cappuccinos, and frappuccinos. And it is just so quick.

GRANT: So what you are talking about is the Starbucks experience. But there has been a lot of criticism that some of the Starbucks experience is being lost in other parts of the world. That Starbucks has lost its gloss. Are you re-finding that again, here?

SCHULTZ: I returned as CEO in January of 2008. And since that time we have literally transformed the company. Last quarter we had record profits, record revenue in our 39-year history. I think the thing that we have done really well over the last couple of years is go back to the roots and heritage and tradition of our company. Most specifically, the values of our people. So, tough choices were made, but the company is completely transformed and healthy. And in terms of China, China is going to be the fastest growing, biggest market for the future of Starbucks outside North America.

GRANT: So what we are talking about here is your bean to cup strategy. How does Yunnan fit into that?

SCHULTZ: We view China, obviously, as a very big prize. And what we want to do is make a comprehensive, strategic commitment to doing business in China in a way that is locally relevant. Starbucks, for the first time in our 40-year history, is going to start growing coffee. Now, we are already sourcing and roasting the highest quality coffee in the world, but for the first time in our history. We are actually going to plant trees and grow coffee in China, in the Yunnan Province. We have discovered a part of the area there that can produce the world's best coffee and in three to four years we will bring coffee from Yunnan to the world.

GRANT: And that takes us back to our first point again, changing the culture here. Who are your main rivals going to be, because this is a growing market?

SCHULTZ: Well, I think we have had competition in every market. We can't allow the competitors to define who we are. We control our own destiny. The size of the prize here is there will be lots of people who will come into the marketplace, both in the coffee business, and others, that will win. One thing I can tell you is we are taking the long term, making the right kind of investments ahead of the growth curve. We are going to build a significant business here in China, in which Starbucks will be known as the leader in our industry.

GRANT: Thank you. Pleasure.

SCHULTZ: Thank you.

QUEST: That is the chief executive of Starbucks talking to Stan Grant.

Next on QUEST MEANS BUSINESS we turn our attention to the "World At Work". Looking at a big name cover up and throwing lipstick and mascara in, too. The make up designer Bobbi Brown's "World At Work". Coming up next.

QUEST: Ah, welcome. Come into the television presenter's confessional. This part of the building that you rarely get to see. This is Jo, who does magnificent work, usually before you and I get together on our evening program, and evening's conversation.

Now, in the exciting world of television news, lights, music, cameras, it is all about making things look good. For the cosmetics maker, Bobbi Brown, make up is the very art and the very soul. For a behind-the-scenes look into her role at the company she founded in 1991, let's join Bobbi Brown, in her "World At Work".

BOBBI BROWN, FOUNDER, BOBBI BROWN: I'm here at our 20-something annual boot camp, which is where my best artists from all over the globe are here. And I teach and I train and I talk.

Good morning, everybody.

I didn't get to see everyone last night. And if anybody has any pictures of me dancing and if it is on YouTube or Facebook, you're fired!

We've grown so much that in order for to get the message out, all over the world, and to be able to have not only women understand how to do their own make-up, but make-up artists understand the brand and the products, the way to do that is really with my ambassadors. That is basically the only market research I really enjoy. Is hearing about what my artists are saying and what the customers are saying.

What did you guys think of the new products yesterday.

Yeah? What are you the most excited about seeing? Concealer?

We are going to start with a hydrating eye, and that is natural.

Well, the Bobbi Brown look, to me, is really simple. It has got to be make-up that is right for a woman's style. But the colors have to be natural to a woman's skin and they have to look like skin.

But can you see, already? I mean, for you guys on this side, it is just now it is flawless.

The company is 20 years old. And I started this company with a lipstick; a lipstick that looked like lips. You have to have a product first of all, or an idea that doesn't exist in the market. There are too many me-too things happening out in the world. And you need something that is needed, and then it is much easier to figure out what to do from there. I thought, wow, what a great idea. A make-up company that is actually been created from a make-up artists.

The best trait I have, being an entrepreneur, is that I am very naive. I never thought that I wouldn't succeed. I know it sounds a big intense, because it is make-up, but if you can take a woman and show her a product that makes her look less tired, makes her look fresher, prettier, there is not better feeling in the world.

Pass it around and feel it. And it is really warm, by the way.

I am incredibly passionate about creating new products and colors. You know, how lucky am I that I get to have an idea and it could be an idea coming from no where. I get to come in and tell a group of people, that I really enjoy their company, about this idea. We work together and we keep meeting on the same idea.

BROWN: Yeah? Woo! Hey, guys, everyone know my friend, Kat?

How are ya? How are ya?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Very good. Great to see you.

BROWN: Our surprise guest, you know, Kat Deluna (ph) who is an up and coming star. I think she is going to be a superstar, I really do. I met her last year at an event. We became friends. She happened to yesterday, she said she was going to be in the neighborhood, could she stop in? I said, absolutely. I knew my artists would get a kick and a thrill out of meeting her.

There is no average working day for me, at all. Everyday is different. And, you know, my biggest problem in life is that I have too many great things going on all the time.

QUEST: Bobbi Brown, and her "World At Work". And you thought all this was natural.

When we come back in a moment we will back in Ireland where the shine is well and truly wearing off. If you are young and ambitious it is time to get going; a new generation of Irish are being driven abroad.

QUEST: Hello, I'm Richard Quest. QUEST MEANS BUSINESS, this is CNN. And here the news is always reported first, the headlines.

Now turning to our top financial story. The mission of mercy to rescue Ireland, as it is seen by some. Officials from the EU and the IMF are preparing to fly in but many others are planning to depart. CNN's Jim Boulden explains now what is driving so many young Irish people to leave home and country.

JIM BOULDEN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): When the Celtic Tiger was roaring, Ireland reversed a century-and-a-half of net migration. In the 1990s, the Irish came back to work and invest. Then came the economic crisis. People are leaving again.

Student Enda Costello says he's off to New Zealand.

ENDA COSTELLO, STUDENT: I'd just like a job around here. I have my degree. It's not worth anything to me here. So I've heard there's good science jobs in New Zealand, so that's where I'm going to go.

BOULDEN: Economist and author, David McWilliams, left in the 1980s and came back.

DAVID MCWILLIAMS, AUTHOR: When I left Trinity, I had stamped on my head, "made for export." So it was a novel thing. We didn't expect to stay here. This generation, the difference is they expected to stay here. There was no collective memory for them of emigration.

BOULDEN (on camera): But isn't it the case that it's good for the Irish economy that people can easily come and easily go?

MCWILLIAMS: Well, it's a lack (ph) in the economy. It's families. It's moms and dads. It's brothers and sisters. You know, if you tear apart the social fabric which is the family, yes, it may well look good in productivity figures, but it's emotionally a disaster for the country.

BOULDEN: For a snapshot of how emigration is affecting the Irish economy, look no further than here -- Croch Park (ph), an 80,000 seater stadium for the amateur sport of Gaelic football.

(voice-over): Players like Aiden Hoey dream of playing here. He's fortunate to have a job as a policeman, which allows him to play this amateur sport. But three players on his county team are leaving the country.

AIDEN HOEY, GAELIC FOOTBALL PLAYER: They are young men and they have to go and try to support themselves. There's no point staying at home and -- and living off the dole or -- or welfare or that. There's no point in living with their mother. They have to -- they have to find their own feet and have to become their own person.

So it's -- it's entirely their own decision. And then it was a hard decision, but it's not as if it's a -- it's a -- it's a lifetime decision.

BOULDEN: The Players Association says the only way to keep more players from leaving is work training and government subsidies. But with another round of budget cuts looming, it's not clear if the subsidy will survive intact.

SEAN POTTS, GAELIC PLAYERS ASSOCIATION: We understand, like everybody else, as well, that there are circumstances which are affecting the country at the moment. But having said that, one of the bullish words at the moment is front loading how you put the -- make people enjoy the pain. A lot of it, initially, we've already endured severance (ph) and cuts to the funding. So we'd be hopeful that that will be taken into account.

BOULDEN: But with many Irish fearing high unemployment for years to come, the pull of available jobs overseas is just too strong, as the Irish diaspora begins to grow again, as it has many times in Irish history.

Jim Boulden, CNN, Dublin.

QUEST: Investors are itching to get a piece of the new General Motors. We'll look at what's set to be a record breaking IPO and speak to the man hand-picked by President Obama to turn the company around.

That's after the break.

Good evening.

QUEST: Back on sale to the public -- General Motors' shares go back on sale to the public tomorrow. Investors are soaking to get hold of them.

But the reborn G.M. has increased the size of its IPO by 31 percent. That's quite a sizeable increase in shares going to the market. What it means is it could bring in a record $20.4 billion. Now if that happens, it would become the biggest IPO in history.

Even so, after the sale, the U.S. government's share will drop from 60 to 30 percent.

So you may think, well, hang on, does this mean the U.S. government is out of G.M. with a profit?

No. The share price will have to rise by more than 70 percent if the taxpayer will recoup all the $28 billion G.M. will still owe after the shares come to market.

But that's still an impressive performance for a company that went into Chapter 11 just 18 months, two years ago.

Last year, President Obama put the financier, Steven Rattner, in charge of restructuring G.M. into a profitable company.

CNN's Felicia Taylor spoke to the former car czar about getting G.M. back in the black.

FELICIA TAYLOR, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): He was dubbed "the car czar." Steven Rattner brought together Team Auto and went to work reassembling the many parts that went into this iconic American car company.

Rattner faced his critics from the start -- how could a Wall Street financier with no expertise in corporate America save the likes of G.M.?

STEVEN RATTNER, FORMER OBAMA AUTO CZAR: This was not a management job. We we're not hiring somebody to manage G.M. or Chrysler. We were hiring somebody to restructure them. And that is what I used to do for a living. And they felt I knew something about it.

TAYLOR (on camera): What was your first priority?

What was the number one job to get done?

RATTNER: Probably the most important thing was to try to figure out how to get a team, because without that, we would have been toast.

Team Auto was -- was a wonderful group of people, the most wonderful group I've had the privilege of working with. They all volunteered. They all came -- almost all of them came from outside the government, many from New York, from Wall Street, because they wanted to serve.

TAYLOR: That brings me to this picture. And it's -- it's clearly a pivotal moment in what's going on. And I actually had to take a look for a second and realize who was in the background.

RATTNER: What you see happening here are people hud -- huddling over a balky speaker phone that kept issuing static rather than voices. What was about to happen was unprecedented.

BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: One of the challenges we've confronted from the beginning of this administration is what to do with the state of the struggling auto industry.

RATTNER: The president was going to say that both companies needed a fundamental restructuring, that Chrysler would be allowed to liquidate if we could not achieve a fundamental restructuring and that bankruptcy was very much an option for both companies.

And this was a bolt of lightning to the Michigan delegation, and then, ultimately, to the rest of the country.

TAYLOR: That had to have been an enormous amount of pressure, knowing that those -- those people's livelihoods -- and you're that they -- if they lost their jobs, they probably wouldn't get another job again, because they don't exist.

What does that feel like, to hold that kind of responsibility?

RATTNER: It was terrifying. I would wake up in the night and I would think to myself, all that -- this whole industry, all these people are relying on a small group of us to make the right decisions. We had no idea, honestly, because it was not knowable, what the impact of the president talking about bankruptcy for these companies would be on car buyers. If the car buyers had gone on strike and said we're not buying any cars from bankrupt companies, these companies would have collapsed. There's no amount of government money we could have put into them that would have saved them.

We -- it was what one of my colleagues called a hold hands and jump moment. We really didn't know exactly what was at the bottom of that jump and what we were going to face.

TAYLOR: President Obama was barely in office when all of this fell apart and came down.

What was it like to deal with him on a day to day constant basis to rescue this company?

RATTNER: Here's poor President Obama. He shows up for work and one of the first things, what do you do about a bunch of bankrupt automakers or insolvent automakers?

And it was interesting to watch him, because I can't imagine he thought or cared much about the auto industry. It's not why he ran for president. I think this was a seminal moment in the whole interaction between government and private sector. This was almost without precedent - - probably it is without precedent -- of the government coming in, saving not just two iconic companies, but a whole industry with $82 billion of capital and having it work and having the government also know when to get out and when to step back.

And I think the president honestly -- and I'm -- he doesn't sign my paychecks anymore -- I think he was a man of incredible courage and determination to do this the right way and I think he deserves credit.

TAYLOR: What -- what is in G.M.'s future?

Can it go back to its greatness?

RATTNER: I think it -- it's never going to go back to having 50 percent of the U.S. car market. That -- that's a historic thing. It will have a profit this year for the first time since 2004. That is already a partial return to greatness.

Its operations in China are amazing. They sell more cars in China than they do in the U.S. They're very successful in Brazil. And in the U.S., for the first time in the U.S., they have stabilized this constant decline in their market share and they actually have a prospect of turning it up.

I think G.M. has a long way to go up in terms of doing really doing even better than the way it's gotten itself to this great IPO.

TAYLOR: Do you feel proud of it?

RATTNER: It's the most extraordinary thing that's happened in Detroit in -- and certainly a good thing -- in years and years. And the -- the change in the mood out there and the sense of excitement that I saw on people's faces in Detroit, it made me feel so good that I did this. You know, it came with a fair amount of pain for me personally, financially, every other way, but, you know, people ask me would I do this again and the answer is of course, because I think we really made a difference.

QUEST: Absolutely riveting, listening to that.

Steven Rattner talking to Felicia Taylor and giving us the sort of insight -- well, frankly, that you only hear on this program -- into the decision-makers and the decisions that they took.

Brilliant stuff.

Now, part of G.M.'s new strategy is a switch to more fuel-efficient cars. On Tuesday, it unveiled a new hybrid gasoline electric model at the L.A. Auto Show. It's the Buick LaCrosse and the queen is the theme at the event.

Ted Rowlands is there.

Ted joins me now from Los Angeles live -- Ted, G.M. is perceived to be back on track. We've got the IPO tomorrow. But in L.A. at this show, do they like the vehicles?

TED ROWLANDS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, I'll tell you, there's a lot of excitement here, not only with G.M., but with the entire industry. You know, we've been covering this every year and the last two years, it has really been depressing coming to these auto shows because the market had been so depressing.

Well, you could feel the excitement. Let's start with Chevy and the Volt. They've got a lot riding on the Volt. This is one of the things that they held onto desperately during the down time. The Volt is being shipped and being sold and it's a big hit at the Auto Show here. A lot of people still interested in it -- 20 to 50 miles on a charge. There's a gas generator that then kicks in. About $40,000 retail.

This is the Mercedes version, which was just unveiled about an hour ago of a zero emission hybrid car. And we're going to hear a little bit more about this in a bit. It is basically a hydrogen shell -- a hydrogen cell fueled vehicle. This is Mercedes' version. Fifty companies in all have alternative fuel cars out here at the Auto Show. And they are all getting a lot of looks, but nobody is getting as many looks at this guy here. This is a concept car by Jaguar, a CX75. The top speed on this supposedly 205 miles per hour. There are micro turbines that power to generators. It's an extension -- extended range alternative fuel car. But, obviously a concept car.

Let's talk a little bit more about the Mercedes.

But let's do the interview in one of their Maybachs. This, Richard, as you know, is a $500,000 car and it is luxury at its finest.

This is Steve Cannon.

He's the V.P. of U.S. marketing.

We're talking about all the different companies going in different directions. Mercedes has gone hydrogen.

Where is this going to end up in terms of the alternative energy vehicles?

STEVE CANNON, MARKETING VP, MERCEDES-BENZ USA: The market is ultimately going to choose. The customer is going to choose. Right now, it's too early to tell which technology is going to win. So it's going to happen on multiple fronts.

So engines are going to get more efficient. So the internal combustion engine is not going away any time soon. But we're all trying to get more efficient and eke more miles per gallon out of current -- out of current technology. That's one thing.

We're hybridizing and electrifying our vehicles. So that's another path that we're going. And we're pretty excited to be launching for the U.S. small series production of the -- of the F-Cell, based off of the B- Class platform. And that's a hydrogen electric vehicle. So it's powered by hydrogen, zero emission. The only tailpipe emission is droplets of water. So it's -- it's environmentally as friendly as it gets and it's got a great range.

ROWLANDS: It's also available in Germany and in other European countries soon. Tell me about this doozy.

Who buys this?

CANNON: This -- this is the fastest ultra -- ultra luxury sedan on the planet. This is like a private jet on wheels. So it's interesting that we can talk about -- in one -- in one sentence we're talking about F- Cells and hydrogen electric vehicles and then we're talking about this half million dollar private jet on wheels.

The Maybach is a very small production for people that want absolutely the very best. So this is -- the 62S is obviously a chauffeur driven car. It's got every single amenity. But for the folks that -- that want that kind of thing, it's great that as a Mercedes Benz brand, we can kind of offer that whole -- that whole variety.

ROWLANDS: All right, Richard, I want to show you one other, the Phantom Rolls-Royce. Obviously, it's been around for three years. It's getting a lot of attention, as well here -- $450,000 out the door. It is the drop head. And as Sir Henry Royce said many years ago, it's a combination of power, refinement and a bit of fizz.

There's a lot of fizz here at the Auto Show, a lot different than in years past.

The excitement is back in the industry and you can feel it here.

QUEST: All right. A quick question to you, one quick question. I'm going to write you a blank check.

Do you want the Maybach or the Rolls?

ROWLANDS: I'll take the Maybach. The -- this is -- this is my Maybach, yes. I've sit in -- after sitting in this, I -- I need a driver, though. If that's part of the deal, I'll take this one.

QUEST: Give me the Rolls any day. Just -- there we go. All right. Ted Rowlands, let's see if either of us can get one day's rental of that car past our expense management.

Ted Rowlands at the L.A. Auto Show.

Many thanks, indeed.

And now, I shouldn't think Guillermo -- Guillermo, when it comes to the World Weather Center, Maybach, Rolls-Royce, I suspect you're more of a sporty sort of individual yourself.

GUILLERMO ARDUINO, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Oh, no, not at all. I'm very traditional. But if the company is paying, I'll take the Rolls-Royce, too, let me tell you.

London is seeing rain, but there are no warnings whatsoever. It's going to get cold. I think Friday is going to be a nice day, you see?

But we have no warnings. We have the rain now ending for a little bit. We're going to see some gray clouds and that's about it.

The problems are in other sections. Think Oster (ph). Look at the rain and also -- another picture -- it's been raining a lot. We're going to see some more. Friday, again, is the best day that we have.

Rain showers here but no delays. Dublin with some windy conditions. It's going to get colder. Munich and Duringen is where we are going to see some snow. And Schleswig-Holstein in Germany with some winds.

Then Italy is a disaster. We are seeing more rain in the north, some winds to the south. Snow in the northern parts of Spain, as well. You see it's getting cold. It's getting cold in Europe.

Now, Britain doesn't have any warnings at all. Eleven degrees is the high expected for Thursday, yes, for Thursday. The low temperature of the day is going to be colder.

Then in the States, you know, I anticipated so much rain, actually, we had problems with winds in Baltimore and the Washington area. Now the story, the storm is gone. So things are much better.

But on the other side of the country here and also B.C., British Columbia, Vancouver -- what a wonderful city -- with bad weather now. Seattle and Oregon, Seattle in Washington State, Portland, Oregon, there you go, with also some bad weather. And Winnipeg already lead -- leading the charge with minus four degrees. That's right now. It's very cold.

Two in Minneapolis. Also, we have some cold conditions and bad weather there. Twenty-six in Orlando, though.

And the -- the highs for tomorrow, minus one in Winnipeg; Chicago, seven degrees. But the weather is much better for our -- our travelers who are coming to New York, OK?

So I want to be clear about that.

QUEST: A lot of focus there on those cold, snowy Canadian cities there. Me thinks you're -- I -- I spot Guillermo heading off for another of his legendary quick breaks.

QUEST: Yes. Yes. Oh, forget about it.

All right, Guillermo.

See you tomorrow.

ARDUINO: See you.

QUEST: Forget stuffy old chief execs on this program. Here, we've got hip-hop heroes and skateboarding legends -- two bosses who are anything but boring, in a moment.

QUEST: Now, chief executives all over the place on this program. FBI says that this man is worth just short of half a billion dollars. Yes, this one on the right of the picture. Jay-Z is one of the biggest music artists on the planet. And he has turned hip-hop into serious business. After all, where else would you expect to see Jay-Z and Warren Buffet on the front page of a magazine?

Yesterday, he tried his hand in another field. Jay-Z has released his memoirs, titled "Decoded." But that's not all. His Rocawear clothing range has sales of more than $700 million. And then there's Roc-a-fella music label, which he has founded. He has a sports bar chain and the New Jersey Nets basketball team.

Not bad for a rap artist. Not many can say they've shared the cover in -- with Mr. Buffet.

CNNMoney's Poppy Harlow met -- no, not Warren Buffet, Jay-Z.

JAY-Z, RAPPER AND BUSINESSMAN: I wanted to make the case that rap is poetry, for one; and, you know, some of the decisions we made, to give those decisions context, why these songs are the way they are, why there is this certain gangsta rap, you know, why this, you know, is taking place in America.

And it just felt like the perfect time to write it.

POPPY HARLOW, ANCHOR, CNNMONEY.COM: You said President Obama had the courage to tell the press that he had your songs on his iPod. You've been a big supporter of his the entire way through.

Has he followed through on the hope that he promised?

JAY-Z: I think he has -- he has -- he's on his way to delivering that. But it's impossible for someone to take eight years of our last administration and turn it around in two years. It's very difficult to deliver on everything. You know, I think he's moving in the right direction, yes.

HARLOW: You spent hours meeting with him and you write in the book about that meeting. And you say: "I wish I could remember one thing," but it was more what President Obama represents for you, the people you grew up with, black children, black adults across this country?

JAY-Z: Yes. And -- and which means all children across this country. You know, that -- you know, us first because it gives us a -- another face, another -- the hope of, OK, maybe I can be president of the U -- the United States. It takes for someone to do it for you to believe that you can achieve such lofty goals.

HARLOW: You insist that rap is poetry. And you wrote: "Chuck D. famously called hip-hop the CNN of the ghetto.

Does hip-hop and rap have a responsibility to report and not just entertain, to take it one step further?

JAY-Z: Yes, of course. You know, you can entertain. It's everything. It's -- rap is, you know, it's entertaining, it's informative, it's provocative, it's funny, it's silly. You know, it's all of these things. So absolutely.

HARLOW: What did you learn on the street, because you talk about being 13 and selling crack.

Did that teach you something of how to be a successful businessman or how we all are...

JAY-Z: Yes, all the things...

HARLOW: -- are common...

JAY-Z: -- all the things that you apply in business, you know -- you know, they say that he has great instincts, you know, but while on the streets, having great instincts can be the difference between life and death, not just losing the deal.

QUEST: Jay-Z talking to Poppy Harlow.

Now, just when you thought Jay-Z was our most unusual chief exec tonight, oh, no. The skateboarder, Tony Hawk, has swapped his board room for the boardroom. The first man to spin a full 900 degrees on a skateboard has pulled a career 180 and he's written a book that pushes his business credentials.

The title of Hawk's book is "The Ascent of an Unlikely Chief Executive or CEO".

I asked...

TONY HAWK, AUTHOR/SKATEBOARDER: And I was met with a lot of resistance in terms of...

QUEST: -- how has he managed to -- into -- boarding into a business.

HAWK: Well, I grew up in a time when skateboarding was not popular at all. And I was met with a lot of resistance in terms of wanting to do it professionally or wanting to do it for a living, especially as I got to an age of responsibility.

So just believing in myself and to know that I -- I -- I felt like it was something valid, it was something substantial that I could do and believing that it would get more popular.

And in terms of my approach to my businesses in my -- my later years, is the same way. You know, I feel like it's more intuition than anything. And -- and if I'm passionate about it, I'm going to see it through.

QUEST: What is it in the business world that does excite you in that sense, because, obviously, the skateboarding and the performance side is a huge driver for you.

But in the business world, what is it you find interesting or is it just a means to an end?

HAWK: I find it interesting that skateboarding is a -- a bigger industry now and that there are many other opportunities within it to promote the brand, to promote licensing. I mean there are -- there are things that are including our graphics and our imagery that I never imagined people would be interested in.

But for me, I think the most exciting aspect is the international growth.

QUEST: And let's talk about that.

When is a brand -- when does a person become a brand?

It's almost a mantra to -- to -- to escalate something beyond just the mere normal?

When do you think you become a brand?

HAWK: I think it's when -- when people know your name for more of a product than the actual person. And -- and that's, you know, sometimes there's just a tipping point when that happens. I think for me, I think it was my video game -- my video game release. People started saying my name that -- and it meant a video game. It didn't actually mean the person behind it.

QUEST: Did it feel a bit weird that suddenly there was you, the man; you, the father; you the skateboarder; and then this other thing, you?

HAWK: Yes, it was very strange. In fact, you know, my video game got so successful that people didn't even know it was a person and they questioned if I was real or not.

QUEST: And when you -- if you were talking -- and you do talk to entrepreneurs, young people who want to make it in business, I can understand why you would say to them, you've got to have passion.

But what else would you advise them to do?

If somebody wants to make it, is passion alone enough?

HAWK: I would say surround yourself with people you trust and share the same vision and -- and chase the opportunities, either to get investments or to promote the brand.

QUEST: that's QUEST MEANS BUSINESS for tonight.

I'm Richard Quest in London.

Whatever you're up to in the hours ahead, I do hope it's profitable.

"WORLD ONE" is amongst you now.

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Movie Theater Massacre

Aired July 20, 2012 - 21:00   ET

PIERS MORGAN, HOST: Tonight, breaking news: a Colorado movie theater massacre -- officially now the largest mass shooting in U.S. history. A gunman opens fire at a midnight showing of "The Dark Knight Rises."

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He was not saying anything at all. He was just quiet. He was literally shooting everyone. Like it was, like, hunting season or something.

MORGAN: At least 12 dead, 59 more injured, including a 4-month- old baby.

Is this a face of evil? Why would anyone commit this atrocity?

Plus, chilling stories from survivors.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This one guy, he was crawling on all fours and it seemed as if he had been shot in his back and he was just gasping for air, it was terrible.

MORGAN: The battle wages again over America's gun laws. The shooter bought all four of his weapons legally in the last two months. Is there anything could be done to prevent it?

Good evening.

America is in shock tonight over an act of evil that in seconds left dozen people dead and 59 others injured. It's the largest mass shooting in the history of United States. All the victims wanted was to see the new Batman film -- a packed theater, nowhere to run or escape from this maniac.

We'll go live to the scene of the horror, that theater at suburban Denver. Police say the killer is James Holmes, a 24-year-old PhD student who after going his murder spree calmly surrendered. The vigil for the victims is being held right now. And we're moments away from a news conference by officials in Aurora, Colorado, which we will go live as soon as it begins.

We're going to have all the latest developments on this tragedy tonight. The latest on the suspect, the survivors, the motive.

But, first, we need to listen to what New York Mayor Bloomberg said today about the massacre.

MAYOR MICHAEL BLOOMBERG (I), NEW YORK: Where you stand on the Second Amendment, no matter where you stand on guns, we have a right to hear from both of them concretely. Not just in general. Specifically, what are they going to do about guns? And maybe every governor should stand up.

But, in the end, it is really the leadership at a national level, which is whoever's going to be president of the United States starting next January 1st -- what are they going to do about guns?

MORGAN: I agree with Mayor Bloomberg. I fully respect the Second Amendment and every American's desire to defend themselves in their homes. But I simply don't believe the framers of the Constitution would have ever envisioned this disturbed young man utilizing his right to bear arms by legally four guns, including assault weapon capable of firing hundreds of rounds a minute, specifically to murder fellow Americans.

There are now almost as many guns in America as there are people, and this could only surely lead to more senseless death. Something has to be done. And that debate will start tonight.

But, first, we start with our focus on the victims. With me now is a family who was in the theater and survived the massacre.

Patricia Legarreta, Jamie Rohrs, and their 4-year-old daughter and baby son were at the premiere when the killer opened fire. They join me now for an exclusive interview.

Welcome to you both. An appalling day for you, for those who lost their lives, for America. Tell me what happened. What was the first that you knew that this was going down?

PATRICIA LEGARRETA, SHOOTING VICTIM: You -- the first thing that happened is he came in through the exit door, through, you know, what is being said is tear gas. It was thrown across the theater and it popped and you see the smoke coming out. It almost hit somebody. At first you're thinking, oh, it's a prank, it's a joke. And he walks out and comes back in and next thing you know, you just see the flashes just coming out of his gun and that's when it was like this isn't a joke, this is real.

As that was happening, Jamie yelled --

MORGAN: Patricia, I'm terribly sorry, I have to hold you for one moment, because the press conference --

MORGAN: -- down in Aurora is about to start.

We're going to go live to the press conference and hear the very latest on the investigation I'll come straight back to you and Jamie.

CHIEF DAN OATES, AURORA POLICE DEPT.: Our governor, John Hickenlooper, makes remarks. Governor Hickenlooper?

GOV. JOHN HICKENLOOPER (D), COLORADO: So this has been a long day and I appreciate how long a day it's been for all of you in the media. We are seeing the community rise up and do the things that great communities do.

We're dealing with this. Seventy casualties, not 71, there was a double reporting there, but the stories that are going to come out of this of how in a remarkably short time the police force in Aurora responded to this situation. Their efficiency in making an apprehension, the ability of our hospitals in remarkably short order to take care of al of these casualties, in an incredible system -- not to say -- I'm not saying it was all perfect but as this story is told, it will be remarkable.

As of 3:30, we still had 30 patients in hospitals, 11 still in critical condition. You know, this is -- it's an act that defies description. You can't connect emotions that we commonly think of.

I mean, everyone I've talked to all day is filled with an anger that can't find focus. And I think the challenge for all of us as a community is to recognize we have to move past that.

Obviously there's going to be a level of accountability to this. Individual is clearly disturbed. Either we will or we will not know exactly the roots of that, of how deep that disturbance is. We know how deep it is but where it came from.

But we are clear that we are going to rise back and lift ourselves above this. I visited several of the families in the hospital and we're going to have obviously some -- when you have that many people that have been injured, you're going to have people with lifetime disabilities.

And we're already as a community beginning to come together. Givingfirst.org, within three hours, we had $125,000 of matching gifts so as they raise money this is through one of the hospitals but all the hospitals are going to participate in this, to make sure the victims of this senseless act of violence that -- again, there just aren't words.

We want to do everything we can to make sure the victims are brought back in every way and supported in every way that we can. We're not going to let this community be defined by such a -- you know, if I had more sleep I might have a better vocabulary.

Anyway, I do think that the first responders were unbelievable, and their ability to work together and coordinate. Our support from the federal government has been incredible. Secretary Napolitano called me from Homeland Security earlier this morning and wanted to do everything she could. She was a little late because President Obama called me before that. But not until after he called Mayor Hogan. He called the police chief.

He called -- the whole country recognizes that this is something we don't accept, we can't explain at this point. But we're not -- we're not going to just let it happen to us. We're going to -- we're going to push back.

I also -- Mayor Hogan's not here. His leadership has been remarkable. And in times like this, you see, you know, what is the true quality of people and how can they deal with situations that, you know, there's no training, there's no way you can prepare for something like this.

I think the way he's handled all the integration of the different efforts between the federal and the state, the county and the local, it really is a remarkable skill. He's been able to keep everybody focused together. No one's pointing fingers. Everybody's moving forward to the next step. All right, this has happened what do we do next?

So in that sense -- and Chief Oates is unbelievable. I don't think I've ever done this but I think you should all give Chief Oates a hand.

HICKENLOOPER: So now, I'll give it back to Chief Oates.

OATES: OK, thank you, Governor. I want to point out that standing behind me are quite a few of our elected city officials and our state representatives. Congressman Perlmutter is also with us. Also joining me here is special agent Jimmy Yacone of the FBI and special agent Andrew Traver of ATF.

And our federal partners have been absolutely tremendous in supporting us. I want to start by saying how proud I am of the men and women of the Aurora Police Department and fire department and Mike Garcia from the fire department, the chief of the fire department, is also here with us.

OK. We got to straighten out some numbers. There are a total of 70 injured in this event, and as of this time, 12 dead. Still the number is 10 in the theater and the last of the bodies were removed from the theater a little after 5:00 this afternoon.

I want to correct one thing. I think earlier today I said the others were all hit by gunfire. I now know a handful of the people who were brought to area hospitals were not hit by gunfire but suffered other injured as a result of the chaos and trauma in the theater. And I can't tell you how many that is but it's a small number. Nearly everyone was shot.

Little information about our subject and the weapons he obtained. In the last 60 days, he purchased four guns at local metro guns shops. And through the Internet, he purchased over 6,000 rounds of ammunition, more than 3,000 rounds of 223, ammunition for the assault rifle, 3,000 rounds of .40 caliber ammunition for the two Glocks in his possession, and 300 rounds for the 12 gauge shotgun.

Also through the internet, he purchased multiple magazines for the 223 caliber assault rifle, including one 100-round drum magazine, which was recovered from the scene. I've been asked, was the weapon automatic or semiautomatic. I can't answer that question now. Even if it was semiautomatic, I'm told by experts that with that drum magazine, he could have gotten off 50 to 60 rounds, even if it was semiautomatic, within one minute. And as far as we know, it was a pretty rapid pace of fire in that theater.

This evening at 4:00, members of the police department and the many supporting agencies that have provided victim service advocates to support us met with approximately seven family and friends -- 70 members of family and friends who have not had an accounting of their missing loved ones. We met with them for approximately 90 minutes. We discussed all our efforts to identify the 10 bodies in the theater. And did the best we could to deal with their grief and anguish.

We are hopeful that sometime in the next hour we will get a confirmed list of the ten deceased and we will begin the agonizing process of meeting with those families and confirming what has happened to their loved ones. I can't emphasize enough the support of all our colleagues in local law enforcement in handing that extraordinarily difficult task.

We're also aided by our own police department psychologists. Aurora Public Schools has made available two high schools for tomorrow beginning at 9:00 a.m. for professional grief counseling and other resources, including the resources of aurora mental health and the red cross. Those two schools will open at 9:00 a.m. Superintendent John Barry was with us to meet with the families.

And the support of the superintendent and the Aurora Public Schools has been absolutely tremendous.

In addition, I'll talk a little about the Paris Street location. We evacuated five apartment buildings including the apartment building of the subject. Those evacuees have been staying at central high school, again, with the support of Aurora Public Schools.

With regard to the Paris location, it is a very vexing problem how to enter that apartment safely. I personally have never seen anything like what the pictures show us is in there. I'm a layman when it comes to bomb stuff. I see an awful lot of wires, trip wires, jars full of ammunition, jars full of liquid, some things that look like mortar rounds. We have a lot of challenge, to get in there safely.

We decided this evening to postpone action on that until tomorrow sometime. All our folks were pretty well taxed and we needed a break and we're also, with the help of the federal government, we're bringing in some extra resources to consult on exactly how to deal with that problem.

We're hopeful that we will address and resolve that problem tomorrow. Unfortunately, this means that the families that were evacuated have to spend an evening in the evacuation center. We are at this time allowing families, one by one, to go back into four of the five buildings to retrieve necessities like medication and those kinds of things. And, again, our hope is that we'll resolve that tomorrow.

With regard to the investigation, I can tell you, we know a little bit more about our subject. We know he recently left the University of Colorado Medical School neuroscience program on a voluntary -- it was a voluntary separation. We know he hails originally from Riverside, California and attended U.C. California, Riverside campus. Neighbors report to us that he lived alone and he kept to himself.

I have the same cautions about the social media. One of the things modern investigators do is watch what appears on the Internet to see what clues we can find and we know you do that too. OK? And in the era of blogs and everything else, we just caution you that everything you read may not be true. OK?

With regard to our theaters in Aurora. We are -- there are four theaters in Aurora that show this movie. Until further notice, we will have some extra security at those theaters out of an abundance of caution.

I will tell you, I've been getting phone calls from some colleagues around the country asking about this. And I told them I don't know what you should do at your theaters but that's what we're going to do in Aurora for a while. We are fully staffed in all our districts. We're on 12-hour shifts because of the demands to support the crime scene and the new event on Paris.

And thanks to the Arapahoe County SWAT team and the Denver Police Department SWAT team. If we have any demand over the days for those assets, since we are fully taxed, we will turn to our colleagues to help us.

The Aurora town center will be open tomorrow. They've been wonderfully cooperative with the Aurora Police Department. I have a new tip line. If there are further tips that anyone wants to call, it's the crime stoppers number, 720-913-STOP, or 720-913-7867.

We're also offering a general information line for the community. Not for the press. I think the press knows how to reach us. This is for the community if they have questions. The general information number is 303-739-1862.

Our suspect is now in Arapahoe County jail. I just got a call from the sheriff. He asked me if I wanted his picture released. I said no. So I won't be releasing his picture for investigative reasons.

He will be arraigned or have first court appearance 8:30 a.m. on Monday in Arapahoe County district court. There has been an overwhelming outpouring of support for our families, for or victims, for our community, for our cops, for our firefighters, for our EMS people, for our investigators, by this entire community. We've received concern and condolences -- just remarkable.

Our community restaurants started pouring pizzas and food into our station houses here. Just to show support for our police department. And it's just absolutely wonderful.

I have an announcement on behalf of the city, Sunday at 6:30 p.m., there will be a prayer vigil right here in front of the Aurora Municipal Center. We know the governor and the mayor will speak and there will be an appropriate moment for reflection for our community.

Finally, I want to offer a huge thanks to our coroner, Michael Doverson (ph), for all he has done, to help us with the crime scene today and to expedite the recovery and identification of the bodies which is so, so important to our community.

And in terms of the next press briefing, we expect to be able to brief you tomorrow afternoon right here at 2:00 p.m. I will take questions.

REPORTER: Any sign of a motive at this point? Has he said anything about why he did this?

OATES: If we have information about a motive, we will not share it with you. We'd let that play out in the course of the criminal prosecution.

REPORTER: He's talking to you though?

OATES: I won't talk about his admissions.

REPORTER: (INAUDIBLE) that perfectly legal?

OATES: My understanding is all the weapons he possessed, he possessed legally. And all the clips he possessed, he possessed legally. And all the ammunition he possessed, he possessed legally.

OATES: No, I won't discuss how he got in. That's part of our investigation. As much as I'd like to be cooperative with you folks, the most important thing is that there is justice for these victims. And that justice will occur in a courtroom.

So whenever I say no here, it's because there's a higher reason and that is to make sure he is prosecuted correctly. Yes, ma'am?

OATES: No, I can't.

OATES: I gave a description this morning of his appearance. He was dressed all in black. For those of you who don't have this -- entirely in black, wearing a gas mask, a ballistic helmet, a tactical ballistic vest. Tactical means places to put all kinds of gear and clips. In addition, it was bulletproof, or bullet resistant.

He was wearing ballistic legging in case he took a round in the legs. He was wearing throat protection and groin protection, and he was wearing black tactical gloves. So that's what he looks like in the theater.

REPORTER: Chief, can you tell us if the devices that (INAUDIBLE).

OATES: I don't know enough about -- those of you who were here this morning know I reported that he released, it appears, two devices that set off some sort of smoke and/or chemical irritant. I don't know enough about them right now to answer any questions. Yes?

OATES: Our cops went through a lot. As I told you this morning, they rushed people out of that theater, into police cars. I've heard some compelling stories. One of the things we're working on is how we're going to deal with our own trauma. And we spent some time today with our three department psychologists and somehow in the next couple of days when this is -- when this has slowed down, one of our highest priorities is to deal with our own officers and how they cope with this event. And that's really al I have to say about this.

Anything else? Yes?

OATES: I don't know where he got the armor.

REPORTER: What about the mask?

OATES: It was a gas mask.

OATES: You know, I apologize, I don't now how many families are evacuated. There are a total of five apartment buildings. They're roughly the same size. Three story buildings were anywhere from six to 10 units on a floor so you can do the math.

REPORTER: (INAUDIBLE) -- obviously SWAT was not -- but they got there really quickly --

OATES: The officers who responded were wearing a regular uniform equipment including ballistic protection. We had a lot of people out last night. Because it was a Friday night and we have a special summer initiative under way where there's extra officers on the street. So, we were fortunate we had about 25 officers there like that.

And as I said earlier, in the end, somewhere between 150 to 200 officers and deputies fairly quickly thereafter.

OATES: Sorry?

OATES: I have no way to answer that question. If I knew, I wouldn't.

OATES: I was asked if he had an attorney -- yes, he has an attorney. And the question was, I'm sorry, was --

REPORTER: (INAUDIBLE) off-duty security at the theater --

OATES: Yes, and we usually work off-duty security at the theater on weekends. This was a Thursday night. And we were not there. But we were there within about 90 seconds.

OATES: Oh, I'm doing just fine.

Yes, sir?

OATES: I have some information from my detectives on his demeanor since his arrest but I will not share it with you. One more question.

OATES: I don't know how many bullets went through the adjacent theater. I know enough went through that one person was hit.

OK. That concludes this briefing. Tomorrow morning, tomorrow afternoon at 2:00 p.m. Thank you very much, folks.

MORGAN: An emotional press conference there with Dan Oates, who's the Aurora police chief in Colorado.

He's updated us now to say that 12 dead, 70 injured -- no, 12 dead, 58 people injured. One less than was first suspended, 30 hospitalized, 11 remain in critical condition. Not everybody was hit by gunfire. Some were injured in the melee that followed.

The suspect was dressed in black and tactical gear. He also released some extraordinary statistics about the ammunition that he built up: 6,000 rounds of ammunition he got on the Internet. Including 100-round drum magazine for an assault rifle which he then deployed, which could have fired 50 or 60 rounds in one minute. Quite extraordinary that he should find this legally obtainable in modern America.

We'll come back and discuss that after the break and also talk to some of the victims of this atrocity.

MORGAN: We're back now with the families who survived the shooting. Patricia Legarreta, Jamie Rohrs and their 4-year-old daughter and 4-month-old baby son. They were at the premiere when the killer opened fire. Let's get back to our exclusive interview.

I can see your young one there -- clearly has been a long and traumatic day. Perfectly understandable she should be a bit upset by now.

Tell me again. You were talking me through what happened. I'll start immediately, I've had a few people tweeting me to say ask them first of all why were they at the cinema with two such very young children. Answer that question first.

LEGARRETA: I take my kids to the movies all the time. It's something you don't expect. A family movie. It's even, you know, PG- 13.

I don't know. You -- we just moved from New Mexico. We don't have a lot of family here. We're huge Batman fans. My 4-year-old daughter just loves Batman. And we were excited.

So we, you know, last minute actually decided to go and get tickets and go as a family to the movies.

MORGAN: And once --

MORGAN: Jamie, let me ask you, to be honest with you, I'm not that interested in why you took your children -- you're perfectly entitled to.

I'd rather move to what happened to you. I know that, Patricia, you were hit by a bullet. Did you realize at the time you've been hit by a bullet?

LEGARRETA: Well, at the -- I did. I could feel the sensation. I felt the tingling in my calf. And I remember at the time that I got hit, the man -- the young man, who was next to me got hit as well. And at the same time that I, you know, screamed "I think I got hit," he at the same time screamed as well And we both fell to the ground. And I got hit when I was --

MORGAN: Jamie, could you -- want to ask Jamie, could you see the killer? Could you see him?

ROHRS: No, I was in the middle -- I ended up on the row over, and then I ended up crawling out. And I'm, like, I'm going to run out. I'm like, you can't run out. So I turned back. And I fall up the stairs and land on my forearm. And I laid the baby down and I'm contemplating my steps. I find myself standing up and looking around.

I could see through the corner of my eye. My idea was don't let -- don't see him. Because if you see him, he can see you. Stay low. Stay -- just try to hide. And people are falling all around, like, you're just hearing screaming right next to me. I'm still standing. I don't know why -- how I'm not hit.

But every time a bullet flashed, you just hear the sound and your ears are ringing. You're like, this one's going to kill me. This one -- this is it.

MORGAN: It's absolutely horrific. I can quite understand why you're feeling now emotional about this. You had your family there, your whole family, and potentially facing the prospect of none of you getting out of that cinema alive when you go and watch a movie. When you heard -- I don't know if you heard the police just now revealing some of the details of the armory that this killer had built up, 6,000 rounds of ammunition he bought on the Internet, four weapons, including this assault rifle.

What is your reaction to that? There's a huge debate going on all around America today about gun control and so on. What is your reaction to the fact that this young man was legally able in the last two months to obtain four weapons, including an assault rifle, and so much ammunition and commit this atrocity?

ROHR: It's -- it's not right. Like, I mean, yes, people are entitled to things but how much weapons do you need? How many weapons? These are destructive -- they're not just handguns. They're shotguns, assault rifles, like you said. They're just so fast at killing people. Like you just realize how many people it can kill so fast. Because, I mean, this only took three minutes and 70 shot, 10 -- 12 dead. It's just -- these are weapons of destruction. It's horrific.

MORGAN: Jamie, did you think that you were going to get out alive or did you fear that everyone was going to die in there?

ROHR: No, this -- my thought was this is how it ends. This is how I die. This can't be the way I die. This can't be the way my son dies. He's four months. This can't be the way my girlfriend dies and our stepdaughter dies. She's four years.

And just so many things pacing through your head. But every time you see a gunshot, I see it through the corner of my eye, see someone drop. And I'm trying to, like, duck, like just trying to get out of the way. And people are falling next to me. But I'm still -- I'm still all right.

Just thinking, this is it. And I just found myself at a point where I had to do something. And it was when I was going to run down the stairs with Ethan. And I was like, he's going to see me and he's going to shoot me. At the point you -- at the time you don't realize it's one person. You think it's -- a million possibilities are going through your head. You're thinking, are they coming from the stairs? Are there more than one? Are there two? Are there three?

Just shots are going off all over. So I find myself just standing. And just my son's on the floor. And I'm looking around. Like, I see the balcony because the shots had stopped for a second. I look over to see if I can jump over because I'm on top of the balcony. And I'm contemplating in my head, like, can I jump, and can I jump with Ethan without him breaking his neck or me landing on him.

As I turn to, like, find Ethan in the dark of the theater with the gas, like, I'm just so disoriented and I lose him. I just lose him. And then he opened fire again. I'm, like, you got to get Ethan. You got to get Ethan. So I'm trying -- I'm, like, you got to run back, you got to find him and get him. And then once I say, just jump if you run back, you're dead. That's it. You're done. You're done. This is it. Just jump. Just pray that he won't kill your four4- month-old. Just pray that he don't find him.

So I jump and I run. I land and I'm running. I'm running. I'm looking behind me to see if people are running behind me. I'm looking for her and for our daughter. I don't see them. There's one half telling me, just go back in, go back. Like, you can't leave them in there. It's like, if you go back, you're dead too. What if our kids live and then they're orphans with no parents.

You're just thinking, like, please let them get out alive. Then I'm thinking, I don't want to live if they all die. I don't want to live if they all die. Just please. I'm praying, just praying. Just please let them get out alive. I got to my truck and I drove across to the mall. I'm try to call 911 and trying to call Patricia.

It's going -- it's just ringing. Every time it rings, I'm like, they're dead, they're dead, your whole family's dead. Just they're dead. And I couldn't think. I got a phone call from a Colorado number and I answered it and thank God it was Patricia just telling me. I was waiting for her to tell me, like, I have -- do you have Ethan. I didn't know what to tell her. Thank God, she had them both. She had them both.

And she was only shot in the head -- I mean shot in the leg. I was just expecting someone to be dead. I didn't think any of us were getting out alive, much less all four of us.

MORGAN: Jamie, it's utterly harrowing hearing your account of this. I'm just so glad that you made it. Obviously other people weren't so lucky. And it's been an appalling day for America.

Patricia, there is one happy ending to this. And that is what happened in the hospital later on, that Jamie did something very special. Tell me about that.

LEGARRETA: We were in the hospital for about a good 10 minutes. And he'd gone to the restroom and came out. And he just looked at me and he said I know this isn't the time or the place. He's like but will you marry me. And I said yes. You just -- something like this just -- knowing -- going through 10 minutes of thinking that he was dead and I'd never see him again, it just -- you never want that feeling again. And it's -- sorry.

MORGAN: Well, it's been an extraordinary conversation with you both. I'm so grateful that you're alive. I'm so grateful your children are alive. I wish you all the very best with your marriage and your future lives together. Lives that you weren't even sure you would have after what happened last night . It is a scandal that this kind of thing can happen to Americans in a movie theater. And that's got to be dealt with.

But for now, thank you very much for joining me.

ROHR: Thank you.

MORGAN: We'll be right back with more breaking news on this appalling atrocity.

MORGAN: We are back with breaking news on the Colorado movie theater shooting. With each new minute, we're getting new details about the alleged gunman, who is identified as 24-year-old James Holmes. Tom Mai used to live right next door to Holmes in San Diego. He joins me now.

Tom Mai, tell me what your reaction was when you heard that the killer who's been taken into custody was the same person that you lived next to.

TOM MAI, LIVED NEXT TO ALLEGED COLORADO SHOOTER: I'm shocked and saddened because of the whole situation. The family very nice. The young man is quiet, very nice, very good student. I guess the problem is we had too much, you know, violence in movie and game, the video games. I guess also the parent right to teach their children right and wrong was taken away by the court system and the educational system. You've got failing children and our failing American family too.

MORGAN: I mean, we don't know yet exactly what the motivation was, what may have caused him to do this. You lived next to him for 10 years. You shared Christmas with the family. You knew them better than almost anybody. You say there was no sign of this. What kind of boy was he?

MAI: He's a quiet guy, you know, very nice. When I come out, I see him, you know, like mowing the lawn or washing the car for his parents. So a typical American boy. Also like, you know, one time we have Christmas get-together with the neighbor at his home. He served my children cookie and hot cocoa, something like that, talking to them. Quiet, nice guy.

MORGAN: His mother still lives next door to you. Have you been able to speak to her today?

MAI: No, I haven't been able to talk to her because too many people tried to get her. And she want to, you know, not to talk to anybody.

MORGAN: It's obviously deeply shocking for them as well. We still await more details of what may have motivated him. Tom Mai, thank you very much for joining me.

MAI: Yeah, thank you very much.

MORGAN: What happened in Colorado is a tragedy. But could stricter gun laws have prevented it? The debate that many people are having tonight across America.

Joining me now is Harvard Law's Lawrence Tribe. He's a professor of constitutional law there. Mr. Tribe, it's a debate that rages every single time there is a shooting of this nature. This is the worst shooting in terms of people who were hit by gunfire that America has ever seen.

Is this enough, now, to prompt stricter gun control? And would stricter gun control have made a difference in this case?

PROF. LAWRENCE TRIBE, HARVARD UNIVERSITY: First of all, I want to express my grief and my deep condolences for the victims. I think gun control is overdue. The Second Amendment does protect the rights of people to possess weapons for self-defense in the home. That's what the Supreme Court said.

But it certainly does not protect the right to buy 6,000 rounds of ammunition on the Internet or to buy four guns, including automatic and semiautomatic weapons, in a short period of time. There's no reason in the Constitution why we as a civilized society couldn't get our hands around a problem like that.

The reason is the National Rifle Association and all of the people who, frankly, make a living out of restricting the political possibility of gun control. We have to do something about it. I don't know how many killings, how much slaughters it's going to take before the nation wakes up to the need to address the problem.

I think we fool ourselves if we say better and stricter gun control would necessarily solve the problem. There are all kinds of things that we need to do. We may need to do things about the exits at movie theaters, so that if they are opened, there's an alarm that goes off if they are not immediately shut. We may need to do something about our educational system. We need to do something about the culture of violence.

But I think this is a time for the country to come together. And it's certainly not a time for us to divide over the question of whether we can impose reasonable controls on ammunition. I think everyone agrees that the Constitution permits that. It's simply our political system that has failed to act adequately.

MORGAN: Professor Tribe, very eloquently put. Thank you very much for joining me.

TRIBE: Thank you, Piers.

MORGAN: The most deadly shooting in American history was at Virginia Tech University in 2007. Colin Goddard was shot four times by the gunman who killed 32 people. He now works on legislation with the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.

He joins me along with Dan Gros, president of the Brady Campaign, and David Koppel, who is a law professor at Denver University and associate policy analyst at the Cato Institute.

Let me start with you, David Kopel, you heard there from Professor Tribe it is time now for gun control to be strengthened. What is your reaction to that?

DAVID KOPEL, PROFESSOR, DENVER UNIVERSITY: Honestly, Piers, I think this is the wrong night to be doing this. And I really wish you'd waited to have this segment until after the funerals. This is a time in Colorado and nationally when it would have been better to have more of the segments like you did before with the family, and when people could be unified in helping the victims.

MORGAN: Well, if I could jump in there --

MORGAN: Wait, let me just challenge you on that --

MORGAN: If I may, let me challenge you on what you just said. A lot of people have said that today, a lot people who don't want strengthening gun control have said this is not the day to debate it. I'll tell you the debate to debate it, would have been yesterday to prevent this happening. When you have a young man like this able to legally get 6,000 rounds of ammunition off the Internet, to buy four weapons including an assault rifle, and for all of this to be perfectly legal in modern America, allowing him to carry out the biggest shooting in the history of the United States, that, I'm afraid, means it's too late for this debate, for those people that lost their lives.

So don't patronize me about when we should be talking about the gun control debate. You tell me a good reason why we should not strengthen the law now to stop another young man like him going into a store tomorrow, buying four more weapons, 6,000 rounds of ammunition on the Internet, and killing and shooting another 70 people in America.

KOPEL: Because we don't even know the full facts of this situation yet. And that's another reason it would have been prudent for you to wait a few days where we know more about this. Nobody's been able to come up with any proposal specific about the facts of this case, partly because the facts are still being developed. And I know -- you've said many times on the air, America's got too many guns. You want to drastically reduce the number of guns.

If your whole point is there's too many gun, we've got to get rid of lots of them, drastically constrict things, and you think somehow that's going to make it better, well, there's no real evidence that it will. If you want to talk about specific reforms that might involve this specific guy, and prevent future people like him, that's fine. But let's wait till we find out the information, instead of rushing the country into this pro/con thing that I know sells a lot of commercials on TV, but it's inappropriately divisive now.

Nobody's stopping you from having the segment on Wednesday. Can you give people a little bit of breathing room --

MORGAN: OK, you've made your point. Let's move to Dan Gross from the Brady Campaign because I'm really not interested in having a debate about whether we can debate gun control. Given that we now know this young man legally purchased these weapons in the last two months, and purchased this staggering amount of ammunition -- he purchased a hundred-round drum magazine, allowing him to fire off 50 to 60 rounds in one minute in that movie theater, which is what has led to this mass slaughter and mass gun attack.

Given what has happened today, do you think there is now legitimate cause to press politicians for tougher gun control in America?

DAN GROSS, THE BRADY CAMPAIGN TO PREVENT GUN VIOLENCE: Piers, I think, like you said, that legitimate cause existed yesterday. And it exists today. It will exist tomorrow. This should be incentive for everybody to make their voice heard. Because, you know, with these guys, it's never the time to talk about it.

You know what, we're not going to talk about it seriously as a nation until the American people get involved in this issue and demand accountability from our leaders, not to do the bidding of the gun lobby, but to represent the people that they've been elected to represent and to prevent tragedies like this.

If Mr. Kopel wants to talk about specific things that can be done to prevent specific people from getting specific guns, you know, what about background checks that can prevent convicted felons, convicted domestic abusers from getting their hands on their guns? The gun lobby works against laws like that on a regular basis. And they're going to be able to continue to until we make our voice heard, which is why the Brady Campaign is launching a petition today at BradyCampaign.org that -- for Americans to sign, to demand that our elected officials do something about this issue, to stop arming dangerous people like this young man was armed today.

MORGAN: Yeah, and just to be clear, you've made it clear that you didn't wait. You didn't wait. You acted today because today is the day to act to prevent something happening tomorrow. Let me go to Colin Goddard. You survived the Virginia Tech shooting, Colin. You went to Capitol Hill to try to persuade Congress to try and reform the gun control laws.

There are many strands to this. As people pointed out to me, in Chicago they have pretty tough laws and they have an almost wild west scenario there with gun crime and shootings amongst the gangs. But that has to do with, in my view, the incredible amount of guns that are in circulation illegally in America. There are apparently nearly as many guns now in circulation in America as there are people.

I'm afraid, the more guns you have, the more likelihood there is they're going to get used. Colin, what is the answer? How are you going to persuade the law makers and politicians? Because at the moment I'm being told by everyone on the airwaves today neither President Obama nor Mitt Romney will even mention guns before the election. It's not politically helpful to them getting elected. That can't be right, can it?

COLIN GODDARD, VIRGINIA TECH SHOOTING VICTIM: The American people need to express their outrage directly to their representatives on every single level. This is something that will change when the American people want it to change. Shooting after shooting, we hear words. We see letters. And then they shrug their shoulders and that's it. That can no longer happen.

We need to hold these people directly accountable. These people being their representatives, for doing the bidding of people who profit from selling firearms to anybody, and that ultimately end up killing innocent people. This is insane that in this world and this modern country that we have to have this conversation. It is way overdue.

MORGAN: It's way overdue. And let me reclarify what I said at the start of this program. I respect the Second Amendment. I respect the average Americans' right to defend themselves in their own homes with a firearm, if they need to. This is a totally different issue that we're talking about today. It's got nothing to do with that right whatsoever.

Mr. Kopel, if you want to come back when it suits you and when you feel the time is right, I will be waiting any time to debate this with you. Thank you now, all of you.

We're going to move on. When I come back, I'll ask the man who was shot with Gabrielle Giffords what he would do to change gun laws.

MORGAN: Ron Barber was a top aide to Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords when she was shot down earlier this year -- last year. He was shot at well. Six people died in that attack, including a nine year old girl. And Bob won the special election to replace Giffords when she stepped down earlier this year. He joins me now.

Ron Barber, today must have brought been extremely difficult memories for you. What was your reaction to what happened?

REP. RON BARBER (D), ARIZONA: Well, it did bring back some terrible memories. Obviously I learned about the shooting as I was boarding my plane this morning to come back from Washington, to come home for the weekend. I'll be meeting with constituents tomorrow. I'm sure I will hear a lot about this when I meet with them.

It did, as I say, bring back some pretty terrible memories. I was listening earlier when you were interviewing the family, Jamie and his family. And I was very moved. In fact, I have to tell you, I'm very emotional coming out of hearing that interview about the tragedy -- the almost tragedy that happened to that family and the loss of 12 people, more injured.

We hope they all survive. Having been through this a year and a half ago, on a smaller scale, thank God, but still it has a lot of similarities. I know what's going on right now with those families who have lost loved ones and who are waiting to see their other loved ones recover. I'm thinking back, for example, to the phone call that my wife got from someone who was at Congress on Your Corner when the shooting occurred, telling her that your husband has been shot.

And she said is he alive? And the woman said to her he's still with us. And I know conversations like that have been going on since the shooting started. And all I can say is I'm heartbroken with what I know what's going on in Aurora with those families who have lost relatives and friends and those who are still recovering.

It's a tragic event. And one would hope it never happens again. And I'm just heartbroken for the families. And I just want them to know how deeply I feel about this and how personal this is with me.

MORGAN: Ron, it is -- no one can speak more eloquently about this than you can. I can't let you go without asking you about the gun control debate. You're a politician. You're going to be responsible for trying to force through some changes to this. Do you think it's possible? Do you think that Washington is going to wake up tomorrow, perhaps, and realize that America simply can't keep having this number of outrages involving guns?

BARBER: Well, I think any decision of serious political issues or policy issues are not going to be had now. And I'll tell you why. In my month in the Congress -- I've been sworn in a month ago. What I know is going on is very little. We have passed some important legislation. The Department of Defense budget yesterday and a week or so ago a budget that will help us build our infrastructure and transportation.

But between now and the election, I really believe that very little is going to be said about major policy issues, including this one. Right now I'm just heartsick over what happened. I have to say, it's deeply moving to me in so many levels about the families that have lost loved ones. And I remember what my wife and family were going through. And I know that's happening over and over again in Aurora.

And I want to say to the people of Aurora, know that we're with you. We care about you. We're sending our prayers to you. Hold on to each other. And please, you know, have hope and look forward to a brighter tomorrow, even though today looks very dark.

MORGAN: Ron Barber, thank you very much for those very powerful words. We'll be back after this break.

MORGAN: One of the victims of the Colorado shooting was Jessica Ghawi. The young woman moved to Denver to follow her dream of being a sportscaster. In a tragic twist, she died after narrowly escaping death last month when a gunman opened in a Toronto shopping mall. Joining me now is her boyfriend, Jay Meloff.

Jay, first of all, let me offer you my deepest and most sincere condolences on this appalling loss for you, particularly awful given what she had gone through in Toronto so soon before this. How are you bearing up? What are your feelings about what's happened here today?

JAY MELOFF, BOYFRIEND OF VICTIM: First of all, thanks a lot. I appreciate it. A lot of people have been contacting me, people I don't know, saying they feel for me and Jesse's family. I can't really describe how I feel right now. It still hasn't set in fully. I still can't believe it. I mean, I still think -- I can't believe she's not here still.

And I just want to make sure that as much as the attention as possible is on Jessie and the other lives lost, and that as little attention is paid to the person who did this. That's just what I feel. That's all I can really think about.

MORGAN: Jay, I can see how difficult this is for you. It's the end of our show. I can't think of a more powerful, eloquent way to end it. I'd just send you again my deepest sympathies of your loss, on what has been an awful day for America, and my thoughts are with all the families of all those who lost loved ones today. Thank you very much.

And that's all for us tonight. "AC 360" starts now.


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