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    So I have a few farriers to choose from that I are good options (if you read my latest threads). I have had him trimmed and so far he seems comfortable barefoot. But the farrier I am trying says my horse has no heals and wants to put wedge pads on all four feet. I am very apprehensive of wedge pads and said I would be very hesitant unless my vet concurred.

    So what are the wedge pads good for?

  • #2
    I'm definitely no farrier expert by any means. However, I have always been taught that wedge pads are a temporary solution that cause more problems in the long run. The wedge adds additional pressure to the heels, and therefore, cause the horse to not grow any heel or even lose what heel they do have. But then again, I could have been taught wrong.

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      Originally posted by laughATTACK View Post
      I'm definitely no farrier expert by any means. However, I have always been taught that wedge pads are a temporary solution that cause more problems in the long run. The wedge adds additional pressure to the heels, and therefore, cause the horse to not grow any heel or even lose what heel they do have. But then again, I could have been taught wrong.

      These are sort of my concerns too. I am very weary of using wedges.

      • #4
        I tried a wedge on just the RF on my horse. It lasted 5 days before I called to have it taken off. It made my horse worse. He has thinning heel so we figured we'd give it a try. Nope. He was telling us no way!

        Won't do it again. I've never heard of wedge pads on all 4 feet before. Usually just the fronts. Hmmm.....

        • #5
          I'm sure that when done correctly by a competent farrier, wedge pads can be very helpful. However my experience with wedges made my horse worse in the long run. He is most comfortable barefoot with extra height left on his heel.
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          • #6
            My vet had my one gelding in wedges all around after his SI injury to try and eliminate the back soreness...he was only in them for 4 weeks, then we went to a steel shoe in the rear, Natural balance in the front.

            Course....I'm still having feet issues....but his back-soreness (reason for the wedge) is gone.

            • #7
              One of mine needs wedges due to an old DDFT injury and the fact that he has low heels and sort of crummy front feet. His BACK feet are to die for.

              Anyhow, I vastly prefer wedge SHOES because this allows me to use a pour-in product (forget what it's called, the normal stuff farriers use) to make up for the fact that the wedges don't allow his frogs to contact the ground as well. The pour-ins provide frog pressure and help to keep his angles correct. He's spent months barefoot from time to time but it doesn't ever seem to help change the basic nature of his feet, which is a shame, but the horse needs shoes to work and the wedges (aluminum, Natural Balance) work really well. He used to be in 3 degrees and is now down to 2 degrees.
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                My TB has crappy, crappy front feet (very stereotypical TB). We did x-rays several years ago out of curiosity, and he's lived in wedge pads ever since. Unlike DW, both of my good farriers have preferred wedge pads to wedge shoes, and always comment on that when they're doing my guy. I'm not sure what their reasoning is for it, but from what they've said it sounds like a personal preference for my guy in particular. But like DW's horse, my guy absolutely needs the pads for the frog support when he's wedged. We did wedge rim pads (not sure if that's the right term?) for a while without the full sole pads in order to give my guys' feet a break from the pads, and it worked well at the end of the winter when we were focusing mostly on flat work. But he still had that set up when we went to our first show and he was crippled by the end of a week of jumping big jumps. My farrier felt that the force of landing was essentially punching his heels down into nothingness, leading to a mechanical founder of sorts (he was fine after a couple of days off). I spent the whole week bringing in acupuncturists and massage therapists thinking it was his back before we hit the last day and it suddenly occurred to me that we hadn't put his full pads back on yet.

                For the last year I've been through several farriers since my [very good] guy moved to Arizona, and every one of the has declared that we're going to wean my guy from wedges. But we're going on 3 years in wedges and he still goes well in them and his feet are no worse for the wear (nor are they much better). And we have moved from a 3 degree on his RF and a 2 degree on his LF to two 2 degree wedges. From what I understand, you have to watch out for the wedges crushing the heels further, but my guy had no heel to start, and his feet look no different at the end of 3 years in wedges than they did after 3 years (of good shoeing) in regular shoes. Although my warning there is that can relate directly to the skill of your farrier. I had a new guy do 3 shoeing cycles on my guy and the difference in his feet in those 4 months was horrifying (his heels were horrifically underrun because of how he was trimming him before putting the pads/wedges back on). My new guy is now fixing that mess.

                In the 3 years of wedges we've also tried pretty much every set-up my farrier could think of.....many different pad types, pour in materials, aluminum shoes, wedging the shoes (with regular pads), using Equilox to wedge, and so on. My horse has strong preferences, and I think we're finally at a point where we know how to maintain him best (fingers crossed!).

                Anyhow, my point is that wedges are not necessarily bad, and can be very helpful...even long term. But I would personally be curious about someone wanting to put wedges all around. I guess I would want a vet to x-ray and confirm that it made sense. And really that goes for wedging just the fronts too. Because of the risks to the foot (or maybe "implications" rather than "risks"), I would want a good picture of what was going on in the foot before making that decision. I would also want to know that the farrier had a plan and was either working towards getting him back out of wedges or had a good reason for keeping him in them.
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                • #9
                  I would also imagine that you'd want to x ray before planning a full time wedge program to confirm a negative palmer angle. Everyone...including my vet and a very experienced rehab farrier said my guy needed wedge shoes with frog support.

                  We did the x rays and his angles are actually perfect, however he has very very thin soles and needs absolutely no sole or frog pressure (vet said the heartbars we were considering before would quite likely of perforated his sole since he didn't have sufficient depth for his frogs to support that pressure). So anyway...

                  PNW-have you every used the Morrison Roller shoes? I have a good friend that moved her mare out of wedge shoes into the Morrison Roller and she loves them.

                  Of course...if it ain't broke, don't fix it!

                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Jumper_girl221 View Post
                    PNW-have you every used the Morrison Roller shoes? I have a good friend that moved her mare out of wedge shoes into the Morrison Roller and she loves them.

                    Of course...if it ain't broke, don't fix it!
                    I'll ask my farrier about them....thanks for the suggestion

                    But yes, since we seem to have a happy horse right now I am very reluctant to change without a good reason! Especially on the tail end of a run of several very bad farriers.
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                    • #11
                      They are similar to a wedge, but actually designed to take all pressure off the heel so you can actually grow heel (your guy seems to keep it trimmed back, but a wedge will actually crush the heel and inhibit "correct" growth, and some farriers won't catch that and it makes the problem worse).

                      Talks about it a little bit. I'm looking at it for my guy right now....although he actually doesnt' need a wedge. Just trying to figure out SOMETHING to get this horse sound!

                      • #12
                        Interesting, my farrier has a similar preference to that PNW talks about, opting for wedge pads rather than wedge shoes, but I don't recall why. Will ask him. I have in the past had a horse with two very different fronts -- one more upright and the other flat and no heel. Caused her to move slightly different. We kept her in a wedge pad on the flat foot to even things and she wore it for years and did well. Some vets loved it, and some hated it, but it worked! What's also interesting was her half bro came in with the same feet, so it seemed to run in that line a bit.

                        I have another horse that is just happier in his high heels (wedge shoes). He's a little guy among my big WBs (only 15.2) and has a lot of attitude, so I joke about the lifts in his shoes making him feel bigger and badder. He went in wedge full pads with the soft equipak stuff under them for a couple of years and it made a huge difference in his comfort level. Left them off for a year while he was at home to give his feet a break, but he's gone back in wedge rim pads for now as he's getting into work again. Farrier wanted to keep the sole/frog open, but I don't think he's as happy (horse) so might have to go back to full with the equipak. All the time he went in wedges, we never had an issue with his heels getting crushed. I also keep mine on a 6 week or less scheme so things don't get out of hand.

                        • #13
                          In my custom, I have several horses who have successfully worn shoes and wedge pads for years. Wedge pads like many/most orthotics get a bad rap because of people who apply them without really having the skill or knowledge to do so correctly.

                          And, while I use both wedge pads and wedged heel shoes(sometimes in combination), for horses that will spend a preponderance of their time on soft ground, I prefer pads and usually, a wide webbed aluminum shoe with appropriate supplemental frog support amended to either the shoe or the pad on both the foot and ground surfaces.

                          One other point. I keep reading about farriers using a 3* or a 2*/whatever pad. However, there are very few pads on the market that are actually 'degree' pads and they are clearly imprinted with the actual degree of the pad. All the other pads go by numbers, ie: a#1, #2, #3, etc pad. These numbers do not reflect the actual degree of the pad especially with the larger numbers. In point of fact, a #2 wedge will be closer to 3 or 4 degrees, depending. And so it goes.......

                          • #14
                            I have now 13yo AQHA with short heels, crappy feet, and has been in wedge pads and wedge shoes (front only). He does very, very well in the pads but will not keep the shoes on (I think he steps on the sides). From time to time he goes without but has gone 1000x better with them and I have been very pleased.


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    Does it really cause brittle bones? What about it pulling the calcium from your jaw bone?

    I take it (osteopenia) but am not sure what I think about it.

    Are Vit. D supplements a better way to go than calcium supplements, as some say?

  • #2
    My T-stats were certainly an unpleasant surprise for me, but I'm really not into taking the biophosphanates. Osteonecrosis does not sound like fun, and I know my dental health is not top rate (work in progress) so I see that as a risk I don't want to take. I've also seen the brittle bone/spontaneous fracture issues that have been brought up.

    You should get your vitamin D level checked if you haven't already. I found out I was quite deficient, and am now taking 1.000 mg a day in addition to Calcium. I also have read that adding Magnesium can be beneficial, but you should discuss that with your doctor.

    I also got more disciplined about making sure I was doing weight bearing exercise every day and got back into strength training.

    There are also books that approach it from the point of view of nutrition, from the viewpoint that acid foods interfere with calcium absorption. Excessive alchohol can also interfere with bone formation (something I learned when researching the healing process for my broken wrist - the incident that led to my DEXA scan).

    I'll be getting retested this year to see if I've improved or at least not gotten worse. Meanwhile, good luck. There are a lot of resources out there for you to inform yourself for talking to your doctor about alternatives to the drugs.
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      Thanks so much, Evenstar. I've had my Vit. D levels checked & they were not low, but I take D anyway. My work involves lots of weight bearing, actually.

      Which calcium do you take/recommend?

      I started with a nasal spray to help bone density (Calcitonin spray), that didn't do enough, so we added in Fosamax.

      I work in medicine and the Drs. & Nurses seem to still say Fosamax is a good thing. Better to build up bone (even with the buzz about brittle bones) than to just keep losing it and surely run into problems.

      I already take some magnesium (for fibromyalgia). Works really well for muscle knots but on occasion, has made me feel funny (nausea, dizzy).

      I wonder where tea & coffee fit in, in regards to bones & calcium (tea-a-holic here).

      Thanks so much for the info. Wishing you strong bones & not too hot of a summer.

      • #4
        Read the literature. Fosamax, Boniva and other meds from that class do seem to decrease the fracture rate pretty substantially if you have poor bone density. The question is how long they should be taken. If you take them too many years, the complication rate goes up. Atypical fractures and jaw problems seem to be related to too many years of uninterrupted usage. It wouldn't surprise me if eventually there are recommendations to take the meds for 2 years, or some other time period, then stop the med to allow bone turnover to normalize, then restart the meds later if bone density decreases again.

        Weight bearing exercise, not being too skinny, getting enough vitamin D, and adequate calcium intake also seem to help.

        • #5
          Foxomax nearly killed me with indigestion - I still think it caused my reflux.
          I am now on Actonel with no known side effects, but also my numbers are going down so it is not doing a whole lot of good. I just hope it is doing some good.
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          • #6
            I used to take Didrocal, but my numbers slipped, so the Rheumatologist switched me to Actonel. I will have another scan later this year, so we'll see if it is doing any good. I've been on Didrocal/Actonal for probably close to 10 years.

            I'm taking 1500 mg Calcium (plus Magnesium), and 3000 D3. I recently heard that K2 is important for bone health, but I haven't had time to look for it. The local pharmacy didn't have it.
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              Read the literature.

              Yes, read, AKB, but what about all the drugs that were put on the market, while the company knew full well about the problems and didn't disclose them? Tis true.

              Now, I'm not saying I would stop taking it due to the talk of brittle fractures, at this point. I think your two years (or so) on and off makes sense, somehow.

              • #8
                My (88 yo) mother was on it for a while; when the FDA suggested the black box warning on it, I sent her the guidance, which she showed to her doc, who promptly yanked her off it. But she'd already been on it a couple yrs. And, well, she's not young. So far no funky fractures, knock on wood.

                Going to go get a dexa myself in a couple weeks; hopefully my numbers will be ok cuz this class of drugs frankly makes me nervous.
                Today I will be happier than a bird with a french fry.

                • #9
                  new study you may be interested in:

                  Today I will be happier than a bird with a french fry.

                  • #10
                    Interesting. I've been on these drugs for 10 years or so. I've wanted to stop, but the Dr. persuaded me to continue. Now, I think I'll be more adamant.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by charismaryllis View Post
                      new study you may be interested in:

                      I was on Fosamax for 2-3 years and saw a similar article. When I asked my doctor about it, he recommended I go off the Fosamax, which I did.

                      • #12
                        I've been on Didrocal, then Actonel, for many years. I've quit twice. Both times, my Rheumatologist has told me to go back on, because I take a small dose of prednisone daily. I'm torn. I haven't filled the newest prescription yet (from last Friday). I go for my 4th BMD later this autumn. Previous readings show slight osteopenia, with a very slight drop in the numbers between the last two tests, hence the switch to Actonel.
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Potsdam, N.Y. -- Elizabeth A. Moeller of Saratoga Springs, N.Y., owner of Interactive Media Consulting LLC, has received the Woodstock Award from her alma mater, Clarkson University. Given each year during Reunion Weekend, the Woodstock Award honors young alumni who have demonstrated outstanding loyalty and service to Clarkson and the Alumni Association and who have used their Clarkson experience to make a notable contribution to their careers.Moeller of Saratoga Springs Receives Clarkson University’s Top Award for Young Alumni

Moeller received her bachelor of science degrees in technical communications and physics from Clarkson University in 1988. She continued her education at Rensselaer and graduated in 1990 with a master of science in technical communication and a Ph.D. in communication and rhetoric in 1995. While at Clarkson, she was a member of the pep band, the Clarkson University Student Association, the Knight Magazine and the Society of Technical Communication.

After graduating from Rensselaer, Moeller returned to Clarkson to teach for a short time. Subsequently, she founded her own business, Interactive Media Consulting LLC. She has spent over 18 years researching the best way to organize and present electronic information for the greatest impact. Her computer and technical skills, combined with her information and visual design skills, are a perfect combination for Web-based communication. Moeller has almost 10 years of teaching experience and custom designs training courses to meet the needs of her clients. She has published numerous articles on topics related to her field and has presented on her expertise at conferences and meetings since 1993.

In 2002, she was named one of the Capital Region’s Forty under 40 by The Business Review.

She was active in her community as a member of the board of the Saratoga Independent School from 2003 through June 2008 and served as president of the board from 2005-2007. Since 2007, she has been a member of the board of the SaratogaArtsFest for which she serves as board secretary.

Moeller is one of the founding members of the Dean’s Advisory Council in the School of Arts & Sciences. She worked with the school’s communications and media faculty as Clarkson developed the digital arts and sciences program. Over the years, she has employed Clarkson students as interns in her business and provided a link for Clarkson students to the professional community. She has consulted with Clarkson faculty and staff on Web development and in 2006 made a very special effort to involve our students and faculty in a national IEEE professional communications meeting which she organized.

She participates regularly in Clarkson alumni activities and events and is a former reunion planning chair and regional chapter board member of the Alumni Association. She has also served on the alumni council and as an alumni admission volunteer.

Clarkson University crosses the boundaries of disciplines, nations and cultures in order for discovery, engineering innovation and enterprise to come together. As a result, faculty and graduates grasp the full impact of their calling, direct their research to the world’s pressing issues and lead with confidence and distinction. One in seven alumni is already a CEO or other senior executive. Located in Potsdam, N.Y., just outside the six-million-acre Adirondack Park, Clarkson is home to 3, 000 students preparing for rewarding careers through 50 rigorous programs of study in engineering, business, arts, science, and health sciences, as well as unparalleled outdoor recreation and life experiences beyond the classroom.

Photo caption: Elizabeth Moeller (right) receives the Woodstock Award from Clarkson University President Tony Collins.

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Rated 4 out of 5 by from Jewelry Storage Very good quality product - much sturdier than the "cutsie" equivalents at department stores. The only thing I would change is that the individual pockets don't have zippers which can cause chaos in case the hanger falls to the floor.
Date published: 2015-06-29
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Jewelry storage I make my own jewelry and have 2 of the large hangers and planning on replacing 2 small ones with the large hanger. It is so nice to see what I have organized by color and know what I need to make. Also, I love the heavy duty metal hanger that comes with it.
Date published: 2014-12-28
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Great quality and more capacity than expected I actually bought one more than needed once I saw how roomy the slots were. I have one for ear-rings and the other for bracelets and necklaces. Because they are in their own pouch and I can easily SEE them, I'm much more apt to mix up my jewelry every day than grabbing what's easiest to find.
Date published: 2014-12-24
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Tidy Hair Clips & Bows This is the perfect solution to organize kid's hair accessories in matching pairs. We've tried clipping them together and storing in a basket, clipping them to ribbons, but this is by far the easiest solution. Makes it so much easier to get ready in the morning. Larger hair bows fit snugly into large pockets at the bottom, spring-clips just clip on to pocket tops, and the bows that snap closed go inside the small pockets towards the top. SO TIDY. Thank you, Container Store! We hang it on a hook on a closet door so that it's easily accessible.
Date published: 2014-09-03
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Helpful Hanging Jewelry Organizer I love this product. It makes it so easy to choose the jewelry that I will wear for the day or pack for a vacation. I don't have to reach in and dig out of a drawer or a jewelry box. It holds plenty of earring sets, and necklaces, rings, etc. It doesn't take up much space either. I've purchased it for people I love!
Date published: 2014-05-14
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Rings on Display I have a number of rings and earrings and they are hard to keep up with and organize. When I was walking through the store and saw this item I had to have it. I got home filled one up, returned to the story the following week and got another one. It is great for rings and earrings, but if you have larger items you need to get the other organizer that was not on sale. Great product, and is also great for crafters like me to hold and organize small items.
Date published: 2014-05-04
Rated 5 out of 5 by from jewelry organizer is the best! So i needed to organize my jewelry, they are in boxes.Whats a lady to do? I want to wear jewelry that matches my clothes but i need to coordinate my outfits. I got this lovely organizer and wallahhh. It is the best I even put my hair accessories and concealer in it so I'm ready to go to work. I love it and can't live without it.
Date published: 2014-04-28
Rated 4 out of 5 by from Jewelry at a Glance I love the Hanging Jewelry Organizer. It has plenty of room to hold so many earrings, bracelets and necklaces. Since I arranged my jewelry in the organizer, I find that I wear it more often. It makes it so easy to find pieces and arrange them by color or size. I plan on adding the necklace organizer too.
Date published: 2014-04-27
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Hanging Jewelry Organizer I just came across the Hanging Jewelry Organizer while looking for something else in the Container Store. I am so pleased that I bought it. I love putting my many pins, rings and earring in the pockets. This also frees space in the drawers of the cabinet where they had been. Dari
Date published: 2014-04-26
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Perfect! I have this to a friend as a gift and she loved it! It helped her organize all of her costume jewelry and really cleaned up her counters and drawers!
Date published: 2014-04-26
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Life-saver! My jewelry was an absolute mess. All over everything. Falling on the floor getting damaged. I'll be moving twice in the next couple of months so this was perfect... Didn't take up much space and held A LOT of stuff. My jewelry is beautiful now. :)
Date published: 2014-04-25
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Best ever jewelery case! Such a useful and easy to use product! It makes it so easy to be creative and... a coquette!
Date published: 2014-04-25
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Perfect Solution! This hanging organizer is a perfect space saving solution to jewelry organizing. The trick is knowing what and how many pieces of jewelry you need to store. I found that I needed 2 to make this really serve me as larger/bulkier pieces do not double up well in the slots. Also, be careful retrieving tiny post earrings from the smaller slots. They tend to fall to the corners when you try to get them out. NEITHER of these are negatives. Just notes!
Date published: 2014-04-25
Rated 3 out of 5 by from Nice holder but pockets too small Overall I like the concept of this holder but the pockets could stand to be just a little bigger and easier to get into.
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Rated 5 out of 5 by from Best purchase This is a must have!!!! It keeps all my jewelry neatly organized.
Date published: 2014-04-22
Rated 3 out of 5 by from great idea, but... I love the concept of this. You can keep your jewelry readily available, easy to see and in a small space. However, the pockets are small. Too small to accommodate a clunky bracelet or large pair of earrings. And if you have larger items in the pockets on one side, the pockets on the back side are virtually unusable. So I like it, but would make changes if I could.
Date published: 2014-04-18
Rated 5 out of 5 by from love it!! This organizer is great! I love it!! everything fits in the pockets! Just Love it!!
Date published: 2014-04-15
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Great product Very sturdy and well made, not flimsy like many others.
Date published: 2014-04-11
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Best storage ever! This storage method allows you to see each piece piece of jewelry so easily....not to mention keeping earrings in pairs!...and then allows you to store the entire collection in a compact way by hanging the slim, compact system in your closet. This beats any other way I've ever found to store my jewelry. Easier to see than stacking in jewelry boxes or drawers and takes up far less space as well! Now I can not only find my things, but actually find it so easily to replace them after wearing them, that I really do!!!!
Date published: 2014-03-20
Rated 4 out of 5 by from Overall, useful Far better than having it all boxed away. Three issues: 1. Hard to retrieve small items 2. Front-to-back issues with large items filling up a pocket 3. Hard to view both sides if it's actually hanging in your closet 1. Agree with those who said it's hard to get smaller items out of pockets. I resolved this for some pieces by storing sets of earrings inside small plastic bags (think tiny - like the ones that a spare button might come in). Then it's easier to pull out the little plastic bag, plus that keeps the jewelry away from the air/dust, which is good given that the pockets don't close. 2. If you put larger items in the bigger pockets, it's really difficult to put something in the pocket on the other side. There's a reason they only model this with small jewelry in it, and I was a little disappointed in that. But with some strategic matching up of smaller items to bigger ones, it worked out. 3. Final problem is that if you actually leave it in the closet, it's hard to flip from one side to the other to see things, especially those on the far side away from you. (Too bad the hanger doesn't swivel.) I handle this by hanging it from the ledge over the closet door - easier to flip back and forth. But it does make me nervous that if someone broke in to my home, it would be a very easy target - easy to see, and they could easily just grab the bag and run off with nearly all of my jewelry. I try to remember to tuck it away in the closet when I'm out of town, but I don't want to do that every day when I leave for work. So not an ideal situation. Overall, it's useful and I'm glad I bought it and took the time to organize everything in it.
Date published: 2013-11-10
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Very Good Product This jewelry holder is sturdy. Although the pockets do not zip, they are not loose, so items won't fall out easily (unless you turn it upside down). Although I awarded 5 stars, the product is not perfect. I agree with another reviewer that said that it would be awesome if the hanger swiveled. The good thing is that you can change the hanger.
Date published: 2013-09-24
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Great Organizer This allows you, at a glance, to see everything you have.
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Rated 5 out of 5 by from Canvas 80-Pocket Hanging Jewelry Organizer It is so easy getting ready in the morning. I organized my earrings, bracelets and necklaces by color. I can quickly see my jewelry and match to my outfit. I plan on buying more for Christmas gifts.Realy large necklaces do not fit but I knew that when I bought it. There is another one with loops I want to get to add my larger necklaces.
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Rated 5 out of 5 by from Excellent Jewelry Organizer I've had my first jewelry organizer for 8 years now when I started collecting jewelry from my grandmother and mother. All of my jewelry have kept in good condition due to this organizer. I have 3 now and soon I will be purchasing my 4th! I also have my travel jewelry organizer which is very durable as well.
Date published: 2013-05-16
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Rated 3 out of 5 by from hanging jewelry organizer Love the product. It's perfect. I do wish it had a few more big pockets but, maybe I just have too much costume jewelry!
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Rated 2 out of 5 by from Wouldn't work for my Jewerly The actually product seemed to be of good quality and I bought it on sale, but I ended up taking it back. I wanted to place each of my jewelry sets (necklace and earrings) in each pouch, but the pouches were too small. The color stuck out like a sore thumb in my closet- I think black would be better. I also think it would be better if the pouches zipped shut so things wouldn't fall out. I have another organizer that zips and I think that's much better. It didn't work out for my purposes, but others might like it for theirs.
Date published: 2013-05-01
Rated 4 out of 5 by from Great Purchase This a great way to have your accesories visible and at the same time saving you space! I would have given it 5 stars but thought the the fact the hook on the hanger doesn't rotate to be a bit inconvenient, otherwise would def. recommend it!
Date published: 2013-04-29
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Savvy storage Living in a motor home presents challenges in the storage department! Thank goodness I found the 80 pocket hanging jewelry organizer. It provides an amazing way to store all of my jewelry without compromising space. I also love that I can organize my jewelry by color which allows quick coordination with outfits. I can't wait to shop for more efficient and effective storage solutions from The Container Store when my new home is completed this summer.
Date published: 2013-04-29
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Fashionable Jewelry Organizer the BEST!!!! Where would I be without my Jewelry Organizer. I have the Canvas 80 Pocket & Canvas Necklace and Bracelet along with the Little Black Dresses Jewelry Organizer. All rated 5 STARS *****. This has made my life so much easier. Before I used to dump all my jewelry on the bed, tried to sort through the clutter, and still wasn't truly satisfy with my selection. Having an organizer has made life easier. Less time getting dress and coordinating accessories. With the function to hang up the organizer, I can select the right jewelry for my outfit of the day. able to see all my jewelry and return items in the perspective place. I recommend this to all my friends and even purchased some for gifts to blessed others.
Date published: 2013-04-26
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Earring Hanger

Is there a hanger for earrings?
Asked by: Barby823
No there's not, but they'll certainly fit into the pockets and I actually like organizing them this way better than the earring hangers b/c I think they're easier to see.
Answered by: bfloppity
Date published: 2017-02-18

Do the pockets zip shut to prevent the items from falling out?

Asked by: Doodles629
No they don't but the pockets aren't real lose so I wouldn't think things would fall out easily.
Answered by: bfloppity
Date published: 2017-01-18

Pocket sizes

What are the dimensions of the vinyl pockets?
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Our Canvas 80-Pocket Hanging Jewelry Organizer had pockets that are 4-3/8” x 2-1/2” and 4-3/8” x 3-3/4”.
Answered by: hcrolf
Date published: 2016-10-06

Does it protect silver jewelry from tarnishing?

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Our 80-Pocket Canvas Hanging Jewelry Organizer does not protect jewelry from tarnishing. For jewelry care options that do include anti-tarnish properties, please see our suggestions below.
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Date published: 2017-02-11
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