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Cool Christmas Gifts for 10-year-olds
November 16, 2004 2:46 PM   Subscribe

Christmas is coming up and I want to be a cool parent to my 10 year old. She wants to listen to, what I can best describe, hip-hop. Not really rap, but stuff that has a beat (she liked Black Eyed Peas "let's get it started in here"). Her current problem is I am uncool. I didn't let her watch Mean Girls—all the other kids got to. I don't let her listen to the local "cool" radio station—mainly because of the language and DJs. So any suggestions on what could keep a kid cool but let me feel like she's getting music of some quality? I don't have to like the music, but I don't want anything with questionable lyrics. Answers that accuse me of censorship will be ignored. When she wants to save her own money up and buy a CD she can, but I'm buying these.
posted by nramsey to Shopping (52 answers total) 2 users marked this as a favorite
Wal-Mart only sells "censored" versions of pop CDs. It may be worth buying only from them for a while.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 2:56 PM on November 16, 2004

She might like Fugees, and OutKast (Hey Ya), and Morcheeba. (all clean)
posted by amberglow at 3:03 PM on November 16, 2004

Tough situation. I'm a strong opponent of treating children like children until a magic day when they're An Adult(tm) (hence my involvement with Peacefire), but what you're looking to do is altogether reasonable and, I dare say, responsible. She is, after all, only 10, and you're understandably looking to ease her into the world.

Does she have any relatives that she regards as hip? An uncle or older cousin? You might be able to get her something like Jurassic 5, De La Soul or Blue Back & Asheru, none of which her friends are likely to be familiar with, but all of which are truly excellent hip-hop. If she just gets something like that out of the blue, she may not understand it. But if she has somebody to explain to her why it's really very cool, then she'll not only have music that you both approve of, but she'll develop great taste. :)
posted by waldo at 3:07 PM on November 16, 2004

It should be noted that when amberglow says "OutKast (Hey Ya)," that's probably one of the few OutKast songs you'd want your daughter to listen to.
posted by punishinglemur at 3:15 PM on November 16, 2004

morcheeba, definitely. and i'd suggest supreme beings of leisure. it's more trip-hop than hip-hop and i don't know if the kids would think they were hip, but it's got a beat and as far as i can recall, i've never had to hit the "oops next track" button with the kid in the car. it's an old album, but luscious jackson's fever in fever out has a definite groove and although you might consider "naked eye" a little risque, we didn't.

you might pick up the pink panther's penthouse party disc. it's various artists, some in that genre (as well as a couple verve remixes) and it's clean as a whistle.

i've found this hard to do, myself, without buying the desired record first and listening to it before approving it for the playlist.
posted by crush-onastick at 3:17 PM on November 16, 2004

I'd second the Jurassic 5 recommendation. They're really excellent (although of course you'd have to be sure to get the clean versions), and generally upbeat (one exception being the track "One of Them" off "Power in Numbers").
posted by neckro23 at 3:19 PM on November 16, 2004

I am not a 10 year old girl. Sometimes I like to dress up as one but that's for another thread. What I would recommend, as I think I have before: The Roots as far as I know do not have questionable lyrics. It's no Dr. Dre's Chronic or any of Snoop Dogg's albums... right now I'm listening to "Do You Want More?!?!?" and everything is generally very clean. I can't pick out anything foul, except for one instance of "shit" being used. You may want to do a lyric search to make sure, as I sometimes miss bad references unless they're overt (as I'm sure a 10 year old girl would). I think the worst you're going to hear with The Roots is the occasional cuss word.

Actually I'm going through my collection, Jurrasic 5 might be your next best bet -- if not better then The Roots. The Beastie Boys' Hello Nasty doesn't have anything bad on it at all if my recollection is perfect. Their latest album is too political and one song is even titled "Hey Fuck You", but Hello Nasty was when they tried to be all Buddhist so it's more, uh harmonious with nature.

Of course all this jazzy, heavy mellow hip-hop -- don't blame me if she's begging you for $100 because "some good chronic is coming in."
posted by geoff. at 3:20 PM on November 16, 2004

I like waldo's approach.

On the general topic of appropriate things for children, I always love following For Better or For Worse -- the series that starts here and continuing here points out how parental ideas of appropriateness are often not a bad thing if they're enforced with good reason As funny as it sounds, my upbringing closely paralelled the upbringing that Lynn Johnson gave her charachters ... and my sister and I turned out OK. ;)

I wasn't allowed to listen to Michael Jackson and other popular stuff at home until I was old enough to understand what I was listening to. It might be worth talking to your daughter, nramsey, about what the lyrics to the songs of the CDs she wants actually mean...

I can't reccomend any hiphop because I loathe what I've heard of the genere, but I can speak in general terms -- and I think that parents have a responsibility to bring their kids up in an environment that has a variety of music.
posted by SpecialK at 3:23 PM on November 16, 2004

I recommend the Greasy Kid Stuff records. Cool indie-rock hipsters writing for families. Very nice stuff.
posted by Sidhedevil at 3:23 PM on November 16, 2004

I concure with the above: what worked for my young sister is to introduce her to really good pop music. My parents don't have to worry about having hard-core rap or Britney in the house - and she's gotten her friends hooked on the Shins.
posted by kickingtheground at 3:23 PM on November 16, 2004

This might be the toughest music related question yet.

Censored cd's only censor the "swear words", and will leave the content intact.

Secondly, I am not familiar to the content of the lyrics to every song on every album to know if it would be something you approve of or not.

Third, by its very elemental definition, most hip hop is very much for what you are trying to shield her from, and thus for you this might be a no win situation.

My first guess for a 10 year old girl who likes music in a similar vein as the Black Eyed Peas would be to get her one of the NOW! compilation (I believe they are up to #17 now), which feature clean versions of poppy hip hop stuff.

Other than that, the pre-teen pop of Jo-Jo or Hillary Duff would do you well.

However, if you truly want to be cool (in her eyes), buy her the new Gwen Stefani album when it comes out next tuesday. I have heard the lead single, and it is simply fantastic. Though I don't listen to her band (No Doubt), most of her songs that I have heard tend to be about things like female empowerment and having fun.

Other than that, Waldo's suggestion is a good one; Jurassic 5, De La Soul definitely.

That being said, I have a six year old son, and I disagree totally in not letting him hear certain music. He has been a Ramones fan since he was old enough to sing, loves the Beastie Boys, and listens to the Beatles and Brian Wilson's Smile every day. When he likes something, I expose it to him, and explain the content, and what to do when he hears a swear word in a song. He knows that it is not acceptable to say certain words, but that those words are always going to be around.

Admittedly, this approach is a direct result of having to hide my copy of "Appetite for Destruction" under my mattress as a kid, and being told I wasn't aloud to listen to certain things (like Rap). Needless to say, the things I was told I wasn't aloud to hear were the first things I tried to hear.
posted by Quartermass at 3:31 PM on November 16, 2004

[S]he liked Black Eyed Peas "let's get it started in here" ... I don't want anything with questionable lyrics

Just a note that it's actually Let's Get Retarded. No, really. The NBA and everyone else plays the family friendly Let's Get it Started.

I'd put a vote in for if it's socially conscious and it's got a couple f-bombs here and there it's probably better than the toned down misogynistic rhymes available in the clean versions of most albums. She's hearing it on the playground already, why not let the words use their power for good?

Just because they can play Ludacris' Stand Up ("The more drinks in your system the harder to fight!") on the radio doesn't make it any more palatable than NWA's "Fuck Da Police".

I'd encourage anything by Jurassic 5, Common, The Fugees, Mos Def, Talib Kweli's older stuff, The Roots, most anything off of Quannum, and Lauryn Hill's Miseducation of Lauryn Hill as starting points. For older stuff Digable Planets, De La Soul, Tribe Called Quest, Beastie Boys (I remember buying a bootleg copy of Licensed to Ill on casette at the age of 10 out of the back of some dude's car at the Escondido Swap Meet...).

Independently owned record stores that are still in business should have someone on staff that's understanding of your point of view, who will have more recommendations, and who will let you preview the CDs beforehand.

On preview, I love crush-onastick's suggestions, and I could probably go on forever...
posted by togdon at 3:32 PM on November 16, 2004

Crash, supporting censorship at WalMart is condoning censorship. Besides, WalMart sucks.

Censorship as it relates to kids is a necessity of living. If you don't keep some controls over their stimuli then you really can't complain when they burn the house down because they saw the guys on Jackass doing it.

I think SpecialK's on the right track though, discuss what the lyrics are and what they mean. I can still remember the shock of some ad for "kid's tunes" that included 8 year old girls grinding to Britney's "Baby One More Time". Shocked and a little disgusted.

Any music I'd recommend is too old or just not very cool anymore or a little too adult.
posted by fenriq at 3:33 PM on November 16, 2004

Agreed with the 'good pop music' suggestion. As an aside, "Mean Girls" is awesome! And not really objectionable in any way that I know of.

Anyway, my suggestion is to check out MC Solaar and his awesome album Prose Combat, which has no English swear words because it's all in French and soooo cool. I am not kidding, it is awesome.
posted by josh at 3:38 PM on November 16, 2004

"Crash, supporting censorship at WalMart is condoning censorship. Besides, WalMart sucks."

And neither of those points addresses the question.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 3:39 PM on November 16, 2004

any suggestions on what could keep a kid cool

Your daughter does not decide what cool is, her peers do. I don't think she likes the music because of the naughty lyrics or the beat - she likes it because her friends like it.

As people above mentioned, WalMart sells bleeped versions of hip-hop and rap. But these are probably the same versions that your kid would hear on the radio, which you've already banned.
posted by falconred at 3:44 PM on November 16, 2004

Ok, we're going to make you really hip. Probably even more hip than your daughter or any of her friends. Go for clean versions of anything by Jurassic 5 , Lyrics Born, or anything else on Quannum. Stuff by Dan The Automator would be good too (he doesn't release stuff under his own name though much...) Gorillaz and Handsome Boy Modeling School would be good places to start.

The The Coup too would make a good option, however I think you'd need to make sure and look for a clean version with them. It isn't that they're particularly dirty or anything like that, I just remember a little swearing...

Oh yeah, and I think Cibo Matto would be a good choice. Nothing new form them out in a while but they're really good. Clean too, nothing to worry about with them.

Now, you'll either need to buy these online or from a locally-owned stores. At this point, you're too hip for Walmart or any CD store in a mall.

Good luck.

posted by pwb503 at 3:51 PM on November 16, 2004

Lots of good suggestions. A lot of older music, which I thought about because I knew it/listened to it, and that is good. I'm just trying to give her something so that she can get through the "my friends do this" stage without me sacrificing being a parent.
posted by nramsey at 4:00 PM on November 16, 2004

"OutKast (Hey Ya)," that's probably one of the few OutKast songs you'd want your daughter to listen to.

Only because the lyrics are somewhat hard to understand.

"Heeyyy... Yaaaaaaa.. (OHH OH, don't want to meet yo' mama OHH OH)
Heeyy Yaaaaaaaa.. (Just wan't to make you cumma OHH OH)"

You might also want to cheat and get her some good hip-hop in a language that isn't English [like Ozomatli or MC Solaar] though I think one Ozomatli song that is in English has the S-word, it's mostly clean, political but clean.
posted by jessamyn at 4:03 PM on November 16, 2004

Blackalicious' latest (?) album "Blazing Arrow" is super rocking and the most positive album I've heard in any genre in years. It has lots of different styles, some amazingly thoughtful lyrics, guests like Ben Harper and Gil Scott Heron. And did I mention the positivity? There may a bad word here or there, but certainly less than most rap and it's not at all gratuitous. I don't actually remember any, but that's probably wrong.

Also really good is Lyrics Born's solo album. I think he does swear a teensy bit, but the lyrics are even more thoughtful and thought-provoking.

And both these drop the fresh beats the kids these days seem to like so much.
posted by freebird at 4:05 PM on November 16, 2004

To add to pwb's post, the "Wear Clean Draws" track on The Coup's "Party Music" cd is a song Boots Riley wrote for his daughter...

...nope, never mind, just checked the lyrics, he says "shit". Plus, all the talk about violent revolution probably isn't what you want to play for your daughter.

No, what you need to do is go to Theta States (see prev mefi thread), and download clean mixtapes onto your daughter's iPod.
posted by rajbot at 4:21 PM on November 16, 2004

The Roots as far as I know do not have questionable lyrics.

They definitely do. The Roots Come Alive is one of my favorite albums and the track with Common isn't 10 year-old material. The Coup is another great rap group for bumping lyrics, but you have to be kidding. Are people listening to the lyrics at all? MC Paul Barman has bumping beats and is wicked smot, but I wouldn't recommend him either. DeLa Soul is about as close as I can get off the top of my head to "safe" rap, but even then it's not 100% ("I need a chick with big potatoes to mash").

I don't know what to say here; I'm not a parent. I started listening to rap in 3rd grade and it didn't warp me, but you're going to be hard-pressed to find good artists with clean lyrics. I can think of artists that don't talk about sex or don't swear a whole lot, but I can't think of one that falls in both categories.

Deltron 3030 is a sci-fi concept album. No sex, but I'm sure the lyrics are questionable. Fannypack's first (only?) album might actually come close to what you're looking for: it's incredible musically and it's made by 3 young girls, but there some suggestiveness to the lyrics. Ugly Duckling is probably the best match: terrific music and pretty clean (off the top of my head-- they even have a song on Taste the Secret called "Potty Mouth").

Reflecting on it, I think crash has the right idea: Walmart's distasteful (to me) business practice would give you a nice bit of insurance in what you buy. Then again, it will limit your selection terribly. You might also investigate stuff that's not quite rap, artists like Fannypack, Underworld, Groove Armada, Morcheeba, Massive Attack, who use rap and bassy beats but aren't filed under Rap in the music store.

This is a heck of a question. If we were talking about 13-14, I'd say get stuff like Common and Soul Position and The Coup and talk to them about the lyrics. But 10 seems a little young to have a lasting talk about the topics that would come up.
posted by yerfatma at 5:00 PM on November 16, 2004

Since you say "She wants to listen to, what I can best describe, hip-hop. Not really rap, but stuff that has a beat (she liked Black Eyed Peas "let's get it started in here"). Her current problem is I am uncool." I'm going to assume you dont mean rap at all but that she would enjoy trip-hop which is a bit moodier but has a beat and usually has little to no lyrics to be concerned about.

crush-onastick's recommendations above would fall into this category.

If so, check out this thread.
posted by vacapinta at 5:06 PM on November 16, 2004

I'll even second the Blackalicious recommendation. As was said before, there's the occasional four-letter word but it's free of odes to mayhem. J5 are excellent along those lines, too.
posted by jonmc at 5:07 PM on November 16, 2004

I'll third Blackalicious.
posted by kahboom at 5:11 PM on November 16, 2004

Ten year olds that listen to hip-hop aren't looking for Jurassic 5 and Mos Def. They want the popular singles, and they want them now. Until she grows out of it, get her some NOW! compilations. They'll make her feel cool.
posted by waxpancake at 5:19 PM on November 16, 2004

Your daughter does not decide what cool is, her peers do. I don't think she likes the music because of the naughty lyrics or the beat - she likes it because her friends like it.

But if he could make her the tastemaker in her peer group, that would be a coup.

(I have absolutely no suggestions.)
posted by kenko at 5:24 PM on November 16, 2004

She might like Fugees, and OutKast (Hey Ya), and Morcheeba. (all clean)

i love the fugees and all, but i'm not sure they're so clean.

"And even after all my logic and my theory,
I add a muthafuckker so you ignint niggas hear me."

it's an awesome lyric, but, well, she says "muthafucker" even if it is in an ironic genre-critiquing way.

the coup also drops "motherfucker" acapella in the chorus to their song repoman (and really, they're pretty liberal with the f-bomb in general) so they're probably out as well.

I'd recommend k-os.
posted by juv3nal at 5:28 PM on November 16, 2004

Isn't there any kiddie hip-hop a la Kriss kross around anymore? That was a good alternative back in the 90's. My kid sister loved it and my mom wasn't offended by the lyrics. If theres nothing like that, I'm surprised some enterprising entrepreneur hasn't filled the niche.
posted by jonmc at 5:34 PM on November 16, 2004

freebird - good call on Blackalicious, and that is their newest album, although Gift of Gab (the rapping half, Chief Xcel being the DJ) recently released a solo album which is really good. Listening to it again now to check for kid-safeness (pretty sure it's good), will post back in an hour.

Lyrics Born, while no Ludacris or Ice Cube, isn't quite kid safe, especially for a ten year old. Check track 12, "Pack Up" if you disagree. He generally does have positive messages, conscious lyrics, etc. but a ten year old only hears "your sissy-ass crew afraid to say the fucking F-word," "talk your lady out her bra," etc.

I'd definitely agree with the recommendations for J-5 - grab both of their full length albums, and if you want to be extra hep pick up their EP too. De La Soul should be pretty safe. The Roots, Common, Beasties, A Tribe Called Quest, Mos Def, Fugees/Lauryn Hill/Wyclef and Talib Kweli are all mostly positive, mostly clean rappers/groups, but I would recommend some filtering. Depending on what exactly offends you, their may be some objectionable content in all of these (e.g. occasional uses of the N-word, occasional s- and f-words, occasional [non-sexist/non-degrading] songs about women, sex, love, etc.).

As general practice, I'd recommend getting your kid an mp3 player of some sort (Xmas is coming...), and then controlling what gets put on it. That way you can buy an album, listen to it yourself, give her the 10 clean tracks and leave off the one that would otherwise prevent her from having the album. Your best bet to be cool really has nothing to do with knowing the difference between Outkast and De La, but with allowing your daughter access to as much music/movies/media as possible without allowing her access to the bad stuff. Of course, that requires mucho extra filtering effort on your part, but the more stuff that you clear as safe for her, the happier she will be.

[on preview: waxy's got a pretty good point]
posted by rorycberger at 5:37 PM on November 16, 2004

A bit on the weird side but possibly sonically interesting to sonically playful kids: Soul Coughing. I don't know if the lyrics could be offensive, because most of the time I can't figure them out. The frontman for the former band seems to say they're chosen more for how they sound than what they mean.
posted by weston at 5:41 PM on November 16, 2004

Joyful Rebellion, by K-Os.

"...he not only creates one of the more enjoyable hip-hop albums of the year, but one of the best albums of the year in any genre."

Actually, all of you should buy this album!
posted by krunk at 5:57 PM on November 16, 2004

Why not get her some old stuff, old enough to be retro and old skool and thus cool once again? How about DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince? "He's the DJ, I'm the rapper" is a seriously fun album, and pretty clean too if I remember fourth grade correctly. (You know you all want to sing along to "Parents Just Don't Understand".)

Or how about the Sugarhill Gang?

Why not put together a mix CD, from iTunes or something, of the best of the old(er) clean(er) stuff?
posted by Asparagirl at 6:06 PM on November 16, 2004

I want to be a cool parent to my 10 year old.

And that's how a whole culture went down the tube...
/derail at the tailend, so as not to have much effect.
posted by dash_slot- at 6:09 PM on November 16, 2004

I don't know how well she'll appreciate all these retro choices I've seen here, but if you're looking for a few current, popular artists she probably already listens to at friiends' houses: JoJo is 13, sings age-appropriate lyrics, and has been topping the Pop/Hiphop-lite charts lately. BowWow (who incidentally accompanies JoJo on "Baby It's You") keeps it age-appropriate as well.
posted by 4easypayments at 6:15 PM on November 16, 2004

Gift of Gab's "Fourth Dimensional Rocketships Going Up" gets my seal of kidfriendly approval, with the exception of the Bonus Track, "Just Because" which features lots of shit's and (at least) one fuck. The rest of the album is squeaky clean, and damn good stuff.

K-os is great, and pretty safe, but I seriously doubt any 10 year old will like it.

Again, I think your best bet is to be a filter/screener/censor rather than a picker of music. Find out what she wants, and then give her the stuff that you approve of.
posted by rorycberger at 6:33 PM on November 16, 2004

If I were 10 years old, I'd probably be spinning the first Tom Tom Club record incessantly. I"m just saying...
posted by .kobayashi. at 6:51 PM on November 16, 2004

What waxpancake said. There are really two issues here. Your daughter wants to listen to the music that all her friends listen to and talk about all the time and she wants to hear some music of a specific genre. I dealt with a similar situation recently.

Blackalicious and J5 are great but only a few songs will resonate much with a 10 year-old. I would suggest checking out Ashanti, and Usher who are both as wholesome as it gets for this era. Tweens tend to identify more with younger performers that can dance.

Your other option is to go with one of the NOW compilations which have a mix of genres and a give her the chance to hear a variety of new music that her friends probably are familiar with. But those you will want to screen first because some may have one or two suggestive songs with age-inappropriate themes.
posted by euphorb at 7:35 PM on November 16, 2004

I'll 5th Blackalicious. Listening to A2G EP right now. It's superb, as is Nia. Haven't heard any others yet, though.

And, if no one's mentioned it yet, DJ Shadow's Endtroducing... CD is fantastic and I don't think anything objectionable is on it as it's all samples from old records.

I'll also second Soul Coughing, but it ain't hip hop, though it's got some fantastic rhymes. Ruby Vroom is their best and you'll probably dig it yourself, too. (Though don't let her see you singing along.)
posted by dobbs at 7:36 PM on November 16, 2004

Another recommendation for K-OS. I'm not much into R & B, but this album is just terrific by any standard. Check it out, if not for your daughter, then for yourself.
posted by Evstar at 9:09 PM on November 16, 2004

I second Deltron 3030. It's PG and delightfully imaginative.
posted by inksyndicate at 9:25 PM on November 16, 2004

Deltron 3030? Blackalicious? Mos Def? The Roots ? DJ Shadow? For a 10 YEAR OLD GIRL?

Did i enter bizzarroFilter today or what?

Ugly Duckling is the most friendly, fun, and contemporary pick of the above bunch - but it's not the hip-pop you are looking for (unless my empathy ability for tweens is totally kaput).
posted by elphTeq at 10:28 PM on November 16, 2004

I run into this a lot at my job, and i usually throw out some of the up-and-coming Christian hip-hop, since it tends to have a positive message and most of it is pretty good. As much as I absolutely adore my upbeat wonderful summer day of an album that is Blackalicious' Blazin' Arrow, it still drops a few questionable moments if you're looking to stay *totally* clean. Pigeon John is supposed to be good, and we still shelve him in rap/hip-hop instead of Christian Contemporary(bleeaaggh). Also, Grits has been one of the top sellers at our store ever since we threw 'em up on a listening post at a staff member's request. They've got a two album Outkast thing going on, and they just released the second half. And Ugly Duckling.

Unfortunately, i find most of the parents who are asking are dragging their 8 year old by the shoulder as he clutches at Eminem and they tend to coat their question in a sugary sweetness that ensures that their rebel-in-the-making never gives a second glance at whatever i suggest. If only we could exchange a wink and a nod, and they (the parentals) would wander off into the nether realms while I guide the fruit of their loins to the appropriate album. Then i'd be sure to throw in Blazin' Arrow since it's got enough of an edge that the kid would think he's getting away with something (A wee bit of the sexual innuendo sprinkled here and there, a nod to the green stuff, but otherwise good.).
posted by redsparkler at 12:58 AM on November 17, 2004

Yeah, I agree that most of the stuff here is good by adult standards and not all that kid-friendly. I offered Deltron because of the subject matter (whereas I don't think delthafunkeehomosapien would work). No way on DJ Shadow-- that's not something a pre-teen is going to dig. Also, while I love Soul Coughing (and Mike Doughty's solo stuff even more), Ruby Vroom has "Screenwriter's Blues" on it, which probably isn't for a 10 year-old either.
posted by yerfatma at 4:25 AM on November 17, 2004

nramsey, I really have to agree that your best bet is to listen to the music before you buy it, make up your own mind and, if necessary, buy individual songs. Though this next tip won't help you out much the au courantest stuff, you could always try to get the CDs from the library to give them a parental listen before committing cash to buying them for your daughter.

Again, I say make her a mix CD. Here's the start of a playlist of post-2000 music that could be built into an appropriate for 10-yr-olds album, which features nothing racier than the fact that some of these are love songs:

Lumidee, Never Leave You (Uh Ohh) (available via iTunes)
Nelly, Over and Over Again (feat. Tim McGraw) (iTunes)
Aesop Rock, No Regrets

Hm, this is tough. I'll keep thinking.
posted by blueshammer at 4:56 AM on November 17, 2004

Usher's latest hit was about his dilemma over his on-the-side girlfriend's unplanned pregnancy and what to do and the rap put into the center of the remix version suggested hitting her in the stomach so that she'd miscarry. The first hit from his latest album was about going home with his girlfriend's best friend after she did a little bumping and grinding on him at the nightclub. There's nothing kid-safe (for a 10 year old) about Usher.

nramsey, in your position (and I am) I'd say go for the Wow compilations. Seriously. Or if there are artists that your daughter can name as interesting to her, borrow their discs from the library and give them a listen and make a decision from that.
posted by Dreama at 7:31 AM on November 17, 2004

I've also got a kid...and having children means controlling what they put into their bodies, in multiple ways.

Having said that, I think you've raised the bar a little high if you won't let her see "Mean Girls".

Good Luck!
posted by taumeson at 10:25 AM on November 17, 2004

I think that all kids want is to feel like they do have limitations and parents who love them enough to do something about it. the content hardly even matters, in my opinion. it's not oppressive to not allow your kids access to something. the fact that their peers are into it doesn't make it a cultural necessity.
posted by glenwood at 1:40 PM on November 17, 2004

and of course just now i didn't answer the question. my opinion is that your daughter may be better off being not-cool. if you can leverage the whole thing in a way where she doesn't resent you the rest of your life. I make mix cds for my 6 year old all the time. i expose him to stuff that i'm ok with him listening to in the car and then he picks stuff he likes and i burn him cds. i'm kind of a music nerd though, and already own most of the stuff that's been mentioned in this thread. de la soul are amazing, as is mos def, jurassic park, aceyalone has tons of clean stuff. but you're going to have to pick and choose songs from each cd. it's uncommon nowadays for a rap cd to not contain any f-bombs.

fugees is another excellent choice. especially for a black eyed peas fan, methinks.

of course, my son is only 6. i'm not dealing with peer pressure yet and i'm sure that's a whole nuther ballgame.
posted by glenwood at 1:47 PM on November 17, 2004

Usher's latest hit was about his dilemma over his on-the-side girlfriend's unplanned pregnancy and what to do and the rap put into the center of the remix version suggested hitting her in the stomach so that she'd miscarry. The first hit from his latest album was about going home with his girlfriend's best friend after she did a little bumping and grinding on him at the nightclub. There's nothing kid-safe (for a 10 year old) about Usher.

Dreama, I don't think you're familiar with what a remix is. Joe Budden remixed the song but Usher had nothing to do with it. And I honestly have no idea what other song you are referring to here. Are you sure you know who sang it?
posted by euphorb at 2:32 PM on November 17, 2004

Okay, I just listened to Deltron 3030 again (aaaah!) and if you don't like the F word or the N word, stear clear. Secretly, though, buy the album for yourself.
posted by kahboom at 7:56 PM on November 17, 2004

I mentioned this thread to my wife (1st grade teacher) and she reminded me that Mase's new album is squeaky clean (and pretty good too). She also mentioned Fresh Prince/Will Smith and the NOW! music things as popular with the kids (even at 6-7) without raising the ire of the parents.

I realize after reading this thread over a few times that my future kids are totally doomed by my taste in music.
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You filled my eyeballs, now please stuff my belly!

My friend and I are starting to organize dinner outings for our group, and we want to end up in happy food comas every time! After living in this area for a while I've already gone to many delicious restaurants/cafes (Street, Animal, and Osteria La Buca among them), and yelp searching is always fun...but I want to know YOUR personal favorites!

What is the favorite meal you've eaten (if you are a SoCal resident)? What are your picks for the tastiest eats anywhere in the Pasadena/Eagle Rock/Burbank/Glendale/Los Feliz/Hollywood areas? I guess downtown is okay, too. Any type of food is welcome (except for purely vegan or raw food establishments), and up to the 30-40$/person price range.

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Ricky's ensenada fish tacos.

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I can't second Sushi-Gen enough. The spanish chopped mackerel? OMG. It's always super busy though, so maybe call ahead.

You should also check out the fairly recently opened L & E Oyster Bar in Silverlake. Really fresh oysters and a super lovely selection of beers and wine. No reservations, so arrive early.

Cafe Beaujolais in Eagle Rock has a halibut dish in a champagne cream sauce, w/candied orange rind garnish that is like crack.
The best dumplings on the continent? Din Tai Fung in Arcadia.

Sadly, my other quick recommendation, Palate in Glendale closed suddenly. So there's just a couple quick tips. Hope that helps.
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Penn State Football Makes a Home Run Hire in Vanderbilt's James Franklin

After three successful years at Vanderbilt, James Franklin has been hired as the new head coach at Penn State. Franklin replaces Bill O’Brien, who decided to leave Happy Valley for the NFL after two seasons.

During his three-year stint with the Commodores, Franklin guided Vanderbilt to three consecutive bowl games (a first in program history). The Commodores also recorded back-to-back nine-win seasons and won nine SEC games over the last two years.

While Franklin didn’t win a SEC title at Vanderbilt, his 24 wins from 2011-13 was the best three-year stretch in school history.

Franklin should be an excellent fit at Penn State. He is a Pennsylvania native and played college football at East Stroudsburg.

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Positives for Penn State’s Hire of James Franklin

The Perfect Fit
It can be a bit of a cliché. Coaches tend to throw out the “dream job” talk a lot during introductory press conferences. But for Franklin, this job is the perfect fit. As a Pennsylvania native, he is familiar with the history and tradition of Penn State. Former coach Bill O’Brien wasn’t crazy about being the face of a program, while dealing with all of the off-the-field obligations that goes with being a head coach. But Franklin will have no trouble filling all of those roles and more. Franklin just gets the college experience and thrives on building relationships with students, recruiters, coaches and administrators. Considering the long-term uncertainty of who will serve as the school’s athletic director, Franklin will have no trouble taking the torch for the football program and doing all of the fundraising or booster glad-handling.

Expect Franklin to excel at recruiting to Penn State. From 2007-11, Vanderbilt did not sign a top-50 class. But in 2012, the Commodores inked the No. 44 class and nearly landed in the top 25 last season (No. 26 by 247Sports). Franklin can clearly recruit. And considering Penn State is one of the top 15-20 jobs in the nation, it should be easier to attract talent to Happy Valley. Franklin also has experience recruiting this area from his time as an assistant at Maryland. The Terrapins have ace recruiter Mike Locksley on staff, but Franklin’s move to Penn State is a blow to Maryland's recruiting. Franklin will help the Nittany Lions close the in-state borders for recruiting wars and will help this program win some head-to-head battles with Ohio State or Michigan.

Background on offense
Vanderbilt never finished higher than seventh in the SEC in total offense under Franklin’s watch. However, that stretch was a clear upgrade from previous seasons. Prior to his three-year stint at Vanderbilt, Franklin served as the offensive coordinator at Kansas State and Maryland. Bill O’Brien might be more of an offensive innovator, but Franklin and sophomore quarterback Christian Hackenberg is going to be a dangerous combination for the rest of the Big Ten. Franklin will also maximize the talent the talent on the roster and tailor his schemes to fit the personnel.

Negatives for Penn State’s Hire of James Franklin

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It’s hard to find any negatives for this hire. Sure, you can nitpick Franklin’s record at Vanderbilt. The Commodores weren’t beating the SEC’s elite and lacked victories over teams with winning records. But again, 24 wins over the last three years is the most in program history. Winning eight or nine games a season at Vanderbilt is almost equivalent to winning 10 or 11 contests a year at Alabama. There’s no question Vanderbilt is the toughest job in the SEC, so going to bowl games on a consistent basis and pushing for a 10-win season is quite an accomplishment.

Final Analysis

Franklin to Penn State likely supplants Washington’s pick of Chris Petersen as the No. 1 head coach hire for the 2013-14 coaching carousel. While Franklin could have interest in a NFL job down the line, it seems unlikely he leaves Penn State over the next five years. There’s simply not a better fit for the job in Happy Valley. Franklin is a master recruiter, motivator and a sharp X’s and O’s coach. Penn State is still short on scholarships and has two more years left on its bowl ban. However, Franklin will have no trouble selling Penn State to recruits. Most importantly, Franklin won’t back down from any challenge, including recruiting against Ohio State or Michigan. If the Big Ten wants to close the gap that has developed between the other conferences and SEC and Pac-12 for the best in the nation, it needs Penn State to thrive. Behind Franklin, the Nittany Lions are going to win a lot of games and will be a factor on the national scene once again.

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emu-sports-newAlong with the busy summer upgrading two of EMU’s athletic fields, there have been a number of changes inside the Eastern Mennonite Athletic Department as well.  With new faces in some places and familiar faces adding new places, the Royals athletic program is poised for a new era, which includes graduate assistants.

Phil Guengerich retired at the end of June as the Athletic Events Coordinator, in charge of event management that included concessions, work study students, scoreboard operation and laundry.  He also was responsible for advertising.  For a variety of financial reasons, Guengerich is not being replaced with one person but his responsibilities will be spread among other staff.

J.D. McCurdy, head softball coach, has been named Director of Athletic Marketing assuming Guengerich’s responsibilities with advertisers and expanding the scope of possibilities for businesses to partner with EMU athletics.  McCurdy’s combined position now reaches 3/4 time so he can spend more time on campus as he transitions out of his insurance business over the next year.

Kevin Griffin, head women’s basketball coach, has assumed the responsibility of hiring, training, managing and scheduling the athletic events work study students.  He will also be identifying team leaders from among the students to assist with training and management.

An exciting new facet this fall comes with the approval of a graduate assistantship program.  Four graduate assistants have been or will be hired to serve as assistant coaches for a specific sport as well as assuming additional duties related to game management, which was another piece of Guengerich’s position.  EMU will have graduate assistants in women’s basketball, women’s soccer, field hockey and baseball.

Jordon Smucker, a recent graduate of Binghamton University and enrolled in the MBA program, will serve as the baseball assistant and head up the concessions.  Sarah Roth-Shenk, an EMU grad and enrolled in the Conflict Transformation program, will be the GA for field hockey.  Interviews are currently underway for the women’s soccer and women’s basketball GA positions.

There is a lot of excitement about what these young people will bring to EMU’s Athletic Department as well as the representation of EMU they will be in their respective graduate programs.  The GA’s, along with Melvin Felix, assistant coach for men’s basketball, and Britten Olinger, assistant coach for cross country and track and field, will assume responsibility for overseeing game management and supervising work study students.  Out-of-season head coaches will also be assisting in game management.

As was announced last week, Dominick Porter has been hired as the new men’s volleyball coach.  He will be working half time at the school while also continuing his employment as a coach bus driver with Blue Ridge Tours out of Massanutten Resort.  Justin Reesor, another recent alum, will be serving as Porter’s assistant coach.

Another change quickly obvious to anyone who walks into the athletic suite will be the departure of Lucinda Schlabach as Office Coordinator for Athletics and Physical Education.  On August 1 she started her new job as Office Coordinator for EMU’s Weaver Wellness Center.  Joan (Joni) Baughman will begin on August 7 as Administrative Assistant for Athletics and Physical Education.  Baughman is currently working in the Admissions Office as Assistant Director of Operations.  Her position in Athletics will likely continue to evolve as changes continue to the department.

Also this summer, the turf field upgraded to a new set of bleachers, which can seat up to 1,000 spectators.  Later this month, the baseball field is set to receive a new infield.

With the flip of the calendar to August, the 2013-14 school year is merely weeks away.  The Royals’ first sporting events are Friday, August 30, as cross country, field hockey, women’s volleyball and men’s and women’s soccer are all in action.

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Lower Merion officials announced Tuesday that the township and Fraternal Order of Police Lodge 28 had reached a tentative contract agreement for the 128 members of the Lower Merion Police Department.

The department's current three-year contract expires at the end of 2012. If the tentative agreement is approved Dec. 19 by the township Board of Commissioners, a new contract will extend through 2016, officials said.

The deal would raise salaries 3.5 percent in each of the next three years, then provide raises of 2 percent in January 2016 and 1.75 percent in July 2016.

Other elements of the contract, according to the township, include:

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  • Improvement in pension service increment for the officers, accompanied by additional employee pension contribution requirements
  • Improvement in vision, dental and life insurance for the officers
  • Cost containment and savings for healthcare insurance for active officers and future retirees

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"I believe the contract is fair and represents a thoughtful and pragmatic bargaining effort. (Lower Merion Township) should be commended for negotiating in good faith throughout the process."

Township manager Doug Cleland:

"The Township is pleased to have been able to arrive at a multi-year labor agreement with our excellent police force. I believe the tentative agreement is both fair to our police officers as well as to the citizens of Lower Merion, and allows us to avoid the unknown of binding contract arbitration."

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Bethany Baldes was a 2012 Libertarian candidate for District 55 of the Wyoming House of Representatives.[1]

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Baldes ran in the 2012 election for the Wyoming House of Representatives District 55. She lost against incumbent David Miller (R) and Sherry Shelley (D) in the general election on November 6, 2012.[2]

Wyoming House of Representatives, District 55, General Election, 2012
Party Candidate Vote % Votes
     Democratic Sherry Shelley 36.1% 1,473
     Republican Green check mark transparent.pngDavid R. Miller Incumbent 58.2% 2,374
     Libertarian Bethany K. Baldes 5.6% 227
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SALEM, Oregon: The Oregon filing deadline is just around the corner on Tuesday, March 6. A grand total of 99 seats are up for election in the northwestern state. This includes congressional, state executive and legislative positions.

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Currently, Oregon has 2 statewide ballot measures scheduled to appear on ballots in 2012. The final deadline for submitting petition signatures for measures is July 6. Both certified measures are legislatively-referred constitutional amendments. One measure calls for changing the terminology of the Oregon Constitution for the three state government branches. The second question proposes revisions about catastrophic disasters and requires approval by a 2/3rd majority.

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The Health Care Committee is a standing committee of the Oregon House of Representatives.

Per Section 8 of the House Rules, committees of the Oregon House of Representatives are assigned by the Speaker of the House.[1] Committees are assigned at the start of each term.[2] A majority of appointed members make up a committee's quorum.[3] The Speaker is not an ex officio member of every committee.

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O'Shea is running in the 2012 election for Michigan House of Representatives District 101. He is running against Derek J. Bailey in the Democratic primary on August 7. The general election takes place on November 6, 2012. [1]

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A Ovid-Elsie School District Sinking And Building Fund Levy proposal was on the November 6, 2012 election ballot in Saginaw County, which is in Michigan.

If approved, this proposal authorizes Ovid-Elsie School District to increase property taxes by 1 mill ($1 per 1,000 of assessed valuation) for 5 years in order to create a sinking fund for construction and repair of school buildings. The estimated first year revenue from this tax is $251,400.[1]

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Shall the limitation on the amount of taxes which may be assessed against all property in Ovid-Elsie Area Schools, Clinton, Shiawassee, Saginaw and Gratiot Counties, Michigan, be increased by and the board of education be authorized to levy not to exceed 1 mill ($1.00 on each $1,000 of taxable valuation) for a period of 5 years, 2012 to 2016, inclusive, to create a sinking fund for the construction or repair of school buildings and all other purposes authorized by law; the estimate of the revenue the school district will collect if the millage is approved and levied in 2012 is approximately $251,400? [1][2]

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LIMESTONE, Maine — A sign company that typically experiences a slow period after Christmas has fallen on even harder times due to the sagging economy, and company officials decided this week to furlough workers indefinitely.

The Pattison Sign Group has idled its plant at the Loring Commerce Centre and furloughed approximately 50 employees effective Wednesday, said Carl Flora, president and chief executive officer of the Loring Development Authority, on Thursday.

The company has had a manufacturing site at Loring Commerce since 2004, Flora said.

Pattison Sign Group is the largest on-premise sign and visual communication company in Canada and second-largest in North America, according to its Web site. The company has five manufacturing facilities in North America.

“Orders are low and the company had no choice but to idle its machines and announce the furlough,” Flora said Thursday.

Flora noted that the company manufactures a large number of signs for banks and auto dealerships, both of which are struggling in the recession.

Flora said he remains optimistic that the economy will turn around and the need for such companies will return.

Calls to company officials were not returned on Thursday evening. printed on July 14, 2014


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Posted March 15, 2013, at 7:51 p.m.

Diamond Pet Foods has issued a recall of certain blends of cat food, affecting consumers in 26 states, according to a release from the U.S Food and Drug Administration.

The pet food company issued the recall because certain blends had low amounts of vitamin B12, a nutrient important to neurological function in cats.

The only affected blend distributed to Maine is 4health All Life Stages Cat Formula, in 5-pound and 18-pound bags, with a best-by date between Aug. 14 and Aug. 18, 2013.

Early signs of vitamin B12 deficiency in cats are decreased appetite, salivation, vomiting and weight loss, according to the release.

“In advanced cases, neurological signs can develop, which may include ventriflexion (bending towards the floor) of the neck, wobbly walking, falling, circling and seizures,” the release said.

No illnesses have yet been reported in connection with the recall, the company has said.

For information on the recall, contact the Diamond Pet Foods information center by calling 888-965-6131 or visiting petfoodinformationcenter.com.

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Penobscot County Sheriff Glenn Ross stands in front of two of the department's Ford SUVs in August 2012. Ross said that flat funding from the state may force layoffs at the Penobscot County Jail.
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BANGOR, Maine — Penobscot County commissioners will hear Tuesday whether Sheriff Glenn Ross will be able to run the jail on flat funding from the state without laying off a dozen people or more.

Last week, the Legislature approved over the governor’s veto a budget that funded the consolidated jail system at a little more than $80 million in the fiscal year that began Monday.

Ross on Friday said that cutting staff would be “a last resort,” but might be unavoidable. Other jails, including Hancock and Cumberland counties, are facing a similar dilemma.

Ross said that representatives of the unions that bargain for jail staff are expected to attend Tuesday’s meeting at the historic Penobscot County Courthouse.

Ross declined last week to discuss specific dollar amounts that needed to be cut but the sheriff said in April after meeting with Gov. Paul LePage that he had been told to cut $600,000 in fiscal year 2014 that began Monday, and $800,000 the next year.

Fiscal years run from July 1 to June 30.

Ross said in April that to flat fund the Penobscot County Jail operation, he would have to eliminate 12 to 14 positions. He said it would take $8.02 million to run the jail in 2014 and $8.3 in 2015. The budget that ended June 30 was $7.5 million.

“We’ve worked hard to stay within our budgets but counties that had fund balances with monies set aside that they were going to use to fix their roofs have been eaten up by operational costs,” he said Friday. “You can do that for awhile, but you can’t do that forever.”

Increases in medical expenses for inmates and labor contracts and the impact of the Affordable Care Act also are driving up expenses, Ross said.

Beginning Jan. 1, 2014, employers will be required to insure employees who work more than 30 hours a week. Ross said that there are “a number of reserve officers” who work more than 30 hours a week who will qualify for insurance for the first time.

The consolidation that brought the county jails under the control of the Board of Corrections was put in place in 2008 during the Baldacci administration. The amount of county property tax money contributed to the support of the jails was frozen.

Since the consolidation, the state has not funded the jails at the level required to operate them or created a fund for repairs, Ross said.

The jail also continues to be seriously overcrowded, according to the sheriff. The facility is licensed for 143 inmates and has been overpopulated 83 percent of the time over the last six months, according to the Maine Department of Corrections. Inmates housed at the jail also are accused of more serious crimes than they have been in the past.

No inmates classified as “minimum security” were housed at the jail during the month of May, according to Rod Miller, a consultant with the U.S. Department of Justice, Bureau of Justice Assistance. Miller said in a letter to Ross dated June 15 that “any reduction in security staffing should be accompanied by a significant reduction in long-term housing capacity.”

Long-term is considered to be a prisoner who stays in the jail more than a week.

That would mean boarding out more inmates at a nominal fee per prisoner to other county jails when space is available, Ross said. Transportation costs to move inmates to facilities around the state would increase as a result of staff reductions.

Short-term inmates, who are incarcerated for less than a week, frequently are forced to sleep on the corridor floors of the intake area, requiring additional staffing to ensure proper supervision, Miller wrote.

“It’s a very serious situation that we’re in, but we’re not in it alone,” Ross said Friday. “Other counties are facing the same problem.”

Cumberland County Sheriff Kevin Joyce said Monday that based on flat funding, he began the fiscal year “$200,000 in the hole.” As a result of that, he is not filling six open positions.

William Clark, sheriff of Hancock County, said that he was able to fill a $60,000 budget shortfall by contracting with the U.S. Marshal Service to board federal inmates at the Hancock County Jail. He also said that a vacant clerk’s position will not be filled.

All three sheriffs said they welcomed the creation of a commission by the Legislative Council to study how the consolidation is working and to recommend possible changes to the Legislature by Dec. 4.

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In the course of our research, we used data from video auctions of calves. Western Video Market provided us anonymous information from 1,979 lots of cattle with average weights in the 500- to 625-lb. range sold in video auctions from 1997-2003. This weight range was used to focus on the price effects of the length of time since calves were weaned.

The number of lots sold per year increased from 153 in 1998 to 397 in 2003. Average lot size increased from 130 head during 1997 to 146 head in 2003. The cattle were sold from ranches across the western U.S.

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Second man remains at large after fleeing investigators, authorities say.

A 22-year-old Hackensack man suspected in a string of burglaries across North Jersey was arrested Thursday after he rammed a BMW into three police vehicles as a team of investigators tried to pull him over in Nutley, authorities said.

Bergen County Prosecutor John L. Molinelli said the man, Hakeem A. Chance, was a “person of interest” in home break-ins throughout Bergen, Morris, Somerset, Union and Middlesex counties. In response to the crime spree, a task force including more than a dozen police agencies was formed.

Investigators were following Chance Thursday when he stopped at a Bergen County hotel before picking up a man in Englewood, Molinelli said. The pair then drove to a residential area in Nutley where, within an hour, a break-in was reported near the spot authorities said Chance had parked.

Task force detectives saw Chance and an accomplice drive past them shortly after the Nutley burglary, Molinelli said. When officers tried to stop the pair, Chance allegedly rammed the police vehicles and fled into Little Falls where he was quickly captured.

Molinelli said the other man escaped and remains at large.

Acting on a search warrant, detectives found marijuana and cocaine in Chance’s home along with burglary tools, ski masks and gloves in his car, according to the prosecutor.

Chance faces charges including burglary, aggravated assault on a police officer and possession of a weapon for an unlawful purpose. He was ordered held on $500,000 bail, with no ten percent.

The accused burglar is no stranger to local law enforcement. Teaneck police, who participated in the task force, in connection with two burglaries in town. He was released on bail, but the status of that case was not immediately clear.

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The Montgomery Blair cheerleading squad cleaned up in the Burgandy Division of the Panther Cheer Competition. Wheaton High School took 3rd place Captain award.

Six cheerleading squads faced off on Saturday, at the newly renovated Paint Branch High School, for the 5th annual Panther Cheer Competition.  Teams competed for a 1st, 2nd and 3rd place finish as well as Spirit Award and a 1st, 2nd and 3rd place Captains award.  Schools from Paint Branch, Northwood, Magruder, Montgomery Blair, Kennedy and Wheaton performed before a lively crowd.  Teams were scored on fundamental skill, choreography and routine execution.  In the end it was Montgomery Blair that dominated the event.  Blair took home not only the 1st place team finish but the "Spirit Award" and Rachel Robey took home 1st place Captain award.  Paint Branch was awarded 2nd place team finish and as well as 2nd place Captain's Award.  Northwood received 3rd place team award.  Wheaton High School senior Angie Kamara received 3rd place Captain's award.

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Written by: Suzanne Marino

Birch Grove Park employees made the discovery Thursday morning, Oct. 10 that vandals had caused considerable damage overnight to the hayride trail in the park. According to Northfield Police Chief Robert James, the damage occurred sometime after the park had closed at dusk and before the first park employees arrived Thursday.

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Birch Grove Park Autumn Family Hayrides 2013

It’s that time of year again. As Summer winds down and we head into Autumn, what could be more fun than a family-friendly hayride along a winding gravel road through scenic Birch Grove park? See the digital flyer below for times and dates.

ATTENTION! There will be ‘family friendly’ but no ‘haunted’ hayrides at Birch Grove Park for the 2013 season. If you have any questions, please contact Birch Grove Park management at: (609) 641-3778

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I am sure I am echoing the sentiments of the City of Northfield, Birch Grove Park, Atlantic City, and the surrounding communities in welcoming The Dave Matthews Band Caravan tour to Bader Field stadium this June.

12 Mar 2011
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One man’s opinion: Northfield’s questionable management of Birch Grove park.

Whatever one’s opinion may be of Northfield’s allocating it’s 2008 300,000 dollar Open Spaces Grant to the construction of the Birch Grove Park Centre, or Pavilion, or whatever they’re calling it this week; and the extension of the boardwalk eye-sores further urbanising and over-developing this once jewel of Atlantic County’s natural areas, one thing cannot be denied: Birch Grove Park is becoming an environmental disaster.

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Pennsylvania relies on it’s groundhog to predict an early spring; at Birch Grove Park you can tell spring is just around the corner when our turtles begin emerging from their long winter hibernation at the bottom and in the banks of the ponds.

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The Somers Brick Company filed its incorporation papers with the New Jersey Secretary of State on 8 May 1900. The official corporate office for the company stood at the corner of Arctic and Missouri avenues and Warren Somers served as the agent for the firm. The company established its brickyard in Bakersville, the old name of the present-day City of Northfield.

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Welcome to terror! Or maybe just a fun night out with the kids.

The various independently run October Haunted Halloween Hayrides have been a seasonal tradition in many of our local communities for several years now, and an event many families begin looking forward to as the Summer season begins winding down and a hint of autumn is in the air. (Pictures included).

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Big Bubba would be a largemouth Bass; or rather, many largemouth Bass. I am fourty years old, and there has been talk of Bubba since I was a little boy. That was a long time ago. The average lifespan of a Largemouth Bass is about 15 years. There has been a Bubba legend at Birch Grove Park for many generations, so it stands to reason there really isn’t ‘a’ Bubba, but simply an idea of Bubba. In my mind, the Bubba of Birch Grove Park legend represents the archetype or ideal of the lunker, slob, monster, or whatever you want to call a really huge largemouth Bass. I doubt Bubba has ever been one fish; or, maybe, there really was an original Bubba who started the legend, but the origin of the legend has been forgotten.

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During the late Miocene epoch, seas covered most of the coastal plain of South Jersey. At the end of the Miocene, a final crustal uplifting occurred (determined by dating marine fossils). These receding seas left deposits of sand, clay and glauconite throughout Northern New Jersey. The clay formation at Birch Grove Park is one of many heavy bed deposits that were carried by ancient rivers that flowed east across New Jersey.


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In the one-and-done era, where the top high school prospects are forced to make a college decision rather than leap directly to the NBA, every season boasts several freshmen who make instant positive impacts.

Other heralded freshmen arrive at their school and suffer, unable to fit in on their campus or on the court. McDonald's All-American designations and Top 100 rankings can become heavy burdens on players who may not be ready for a team-oriented college concept.

Some sink quietly to the end of the bench. Some stagger from headline to headline, making news for anything other than their play. And some simply throw noisy tantrums and leave for other pastures.

These 10 players were expected to emerge as positive contributors, if not stars, during the 2011-12 college basketball season. For a variety of reasons, they've either been invisible or downright destructive to their teams.

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One of South Carolina's top young players has been given permission to seek a transfer from the university after the recent coaching change.

Anthony Gill was granted permission from USC to be released from his scholarship in order to find another school to continue playing college basketball.

Gill was a top recruit for the 2011-2012 season for former coach Darrin Horn and showcased loads of potential that had him ranked as one of the top high school basketball players in the country. South Carolina underwent a coaching change from Darrin Horn to Kansas State's Frank Martin in the offseason, and this gave Gill some uncertainty for continuing his South Carolina career.

Frank Martin released a statement today in regards to the news of Anthony Gill receiving his release:

"We're going to allow Anthony to go through the recruiting process again, and South Carolina will be involved in that."

Martin commented earlier this week about how he'll have to re-recruit the current players at South Carolina, and this holds true with Anthony Gill.

The true freshman averaged 7.6 points per game along with 4.7 rebounds. He had double-digit scoring in seven games, and either led or shared the team lead in scoring six times.

South Carolina upgraded by hiring Frank Martin to replace Darrin Horn. He will, however, need some players to work with, and Anthony Gill could play a big role next season.

The Gamecocks hope Martin can convince him to return, or else there could be some growing pains for the new coach of South Carolina.

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On Monday June 4, 2012, the Washington Capitals traded goaltender Tomas Vokoun to their arch-rival Pittsburgh Penguins in exchange for a 7th-round pick in the 2012 NHL Entry Draft.

In his 2011-12 exit interview, Vokoun had made clear his desire to leave the team, saying "for me, it was never the intention to be here more than a year."

Vokoun was clearly on his way out, and the trade to send him to the Steel City only reaffirmed that.

Nonetheless, the trade still begs the question: What does it all mean for the Washington Capitals organization.

Ultimately, in terms of next year's roster, the trade means little.

Having posted a .935 save percentage and 1.95 goals against average with seven wins in 14 playoff games this postseason, 22-year-old Braden Holtby finally confirmed his spot on the roster next season. He will inevitably compete for playing time with fellow youngsters Michal Neuvirth.

Vokoun was no longer needed.

That said, the trade does still carry value for the Caps, in terms of continuing to build on their future.

The Caps already hold two first-rounders (11th overall pick from Colorado for Semyon Varlamov), one 2nd-rounder (also from Varlamov, dependent on whether or not the Caps choose to select with Boston's second-rounder in 2012 or Colorado's second-rounder in 2013), one third-rounder, two fourth-rounders (100th overall pick from Winnipeg for Eric Fehr), one fifth-rounder, one sixth-rounder, and one seventh-rounder in this month's NHL draft, and in acquiring Pittsburgh's seventh-rounder, the Caps secured potentially their 10th draft pick in what has long been said to be a very deep draft class.

Washington was deemed by Hockey's Future to have the fourth-worst prospect pool in the NHL, and needs to restock the youth supplies.

Ultimately, while this trade only yielded a seventh-round draft pick, it will help the Capitals continue to build on their future, and continue to ensure that a fresh supply of youngsters are arriving in the District to help Alex Ovechkin and his team on their quest for the cup.

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The College World Series begins in Omaha today with eight teams competing for the title. The contenders range from top-ranked schools, like UCLA and Florida, to the Cinderellas in Kent St. and Stony Brook, who knocked off a powerhouse LSU team in the Super Regionals.

Along with the David vs. Goliath pairings, we also get a glimpse into the future of Major League Baseball. Fifty-four players that will take the field in Omaha this weekend were selected earlier this month in the 2012 MLB Amateur Draft.

The tournament begins tonight with the first set of teams in this double-elimination bracket: Stony Brook vs. UCLA and Arizona vs. Florida State. The remaining four, which includes Kent St. vs. Arkansas and South Carolina vs. Florida, begin play on Saturday. Here are the matchups to pay attention to when watching the first round of the tournament.

Travis Jankowski (Stony Brook) vs. Adam Plutko (UCLA) - Friday, 5 PM ET, ESPN2

Center fielder Travis Jankowski is a big reason why Stony Brook has gotten this far. A junior, Jankowski is putting up ridiculous numbers this season. He leads the team with a .422 average, 78 runs, and 36 steals in 64 games. He became the highest-drafted Stony Brook player ever earlier this month when the Padres took him with the 44th overall pick.

Plutko, the ace of the Bruins staff, is one of the most highly-touted prospects of the 2013 draft. He is 11-3 this year with a 2.56 ERA. The sophomore will take the mound tonight in the school's first College World Series game since losing the championship to South Carolina in 2010.

A matchup between these two stars is a must-see. Plutko has been brilliant of late, and Jankowski needs to have a good game in order to vault the Seawolves to victory.

Boyd and Ramsey (Florida State) vs. Arizona Wildcat pitching - Friday, 9 PM ET, ESPN2

Florida State's duo of Jayce Boyd and James Ramsey have troubled opposing pitchers all season long. Both sport averages in the .380s and have great plate discipline. Ramsey was taken by the Cardinals in the first round of this year's draft, while Boyd was selected in the sixth by the Mets.

Arizona's staff is led by junior Kurt Heyer, who is 12-2 with a 2.28 ERA this season. He was selected in the sixth round by the Cardinals this year. The bullpen behind him is shaky at best, so the longer Heyer can go, the better.

Containing Boyd and Ramsey will be the key to victory for the Wildcats. If they can accomplish that, the rest of the Seminoles lineup should be manageable.

David Starn (Kent St.) vs. Arkansas lineup - Saturday, 5 PM ET, ESPN

The Atlanta Braves' seventh-round selection in 2012, David Starn is the key to Kent State's success. He is 11-3 with a 2.21 ERA and a staggering 123 strikeouts in just 114 innings of work, but he will need to step up his game to take on Arkansas.

Arkansas is one of the weaker offensive teams left in the tournament, but their SEC talent may have an edge against the Cinderella team from the Mid-American Conference. Matt Reynolds, who went in the second round to the Mets, is a talented third baseman that leads the Razorback offense.

Starn pitching a gem may be the Golden Flashes' only chance of taking this game. He struggled in his Super Regional start against Oregon, giving up four runs in 6.1 innings, but came out victorious as the Golden Flashes won 7-6. He will need to be better this time around to keep the Cinderella story going.

Florida Gators bullpen vs. South Carolina offense - Saturday, 9 PM ET, ESPN

In what might be the most exciting game of the opening weekend, the Florida Gators take on the two-time defending champion South Carolina Gamecocks. Florida's bullpen is lights-out, and their starters aren't exactly a walk in the park either. Four of their pitchers were taken in the first seven rounds of this month's draft. Closer Austin Maddox, along with relievers Steven Rodriguez and Greg Larson, will make the game a lot shorter for South Carolina.

The Gamecocks offense needs to get on the board early. Slugger Christian Walker, taken in the fourth round by the Orioles, is the focal point of the lineup. He needs to capitalize on all of his run-producing opportunities to get the team out to an early lead.

If the Gators move ahead in the first few innings, it will be hard for South Carolina to get back in the game. They have to take the early lead and avoid playing from behind when the Gators go to the bullpen.

This will be an exciting first round of the College World Series. Cinderella stories, future MLB stars, and clutch moments will define this year's tournament. These are the matchups to watch.

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Arsenal EPL News: Abou Diaby's Injury Is No Big Deal, Says Arsene Wenger

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Arsenal EPL News: Abou Diaby's Injury Is No Big Deal, Says Arsene Wenger
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Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has downplayed the injury to Abou Diaby after the Frenchman picked up a hip problem in France's international match against Finland.

The 26-year-old midfielder missed his country's next match against Belarus as a result of the injury, leaving some to think that he might be absent for some time. However, the veteran manager has confirmed that the injury is not that serious and that no extensive time on the sidelines is looming for Diaby.

Wenger told TF1 (via Eurosport):

He [Diaby] has a slight pain on the hip, on the satorius muscle. It doesn't seem serious at all to me.

He even has a small chance to play on Saturday...

After a strong start in the English Premier League this season, Gunners fans will be desperate for the midfielder to return as soon as possible—especially with Jack Wilshere still unavailable for several more weeks.

Diaby was superb in Arsenal's win against Liverpool—combining beautifully with Santi Cazorla and Lukas Podolski—and will be sourly missed against Southampton if he is unable to overcome his injury in time.

If he does miss that match against the Saints, it is expected that Diaby will therefore be available for selection when the Gunners kick off their 2012 UEFA Champions League campaign against Montpellier next Tuesday.

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