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Oregon environmental group sues US Forest Service over flame retardant

By Elizabeth Castillo (OPB)
Oct. 25, 2022 4:52 p.m.

Broadcast: Tuesday, Oct. 25

In this photo provided by the Bootleg Fire Incident Command, a plane drops retardant near Mitchell Monument in the Bootleg Fire, July 19, 2021.

In this photo provided by the Bootleg Fire Incident Command, a plane drops retardant near Mitchell Monument in the Bootleg Fire, July 19, 2021.

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Forest Service Employees for Environmental Ethics, an Oregon-based environmental group, filed a lawsuit earlier this month against the U.S. Forest Service. The complaint alleges that the agency is in violation of the Clean Water Act by inadvertently dropping fire retardant into waterways. Andy Stahl is the executive director of Forest Service Employees for Environmental Ethics. He joins us with details of the complaint.

Note: A U.S. Forest Service spokesperson said the agency does not comment on pending or ongoing litigation.

Note: The following transcript was created by a computer and edited by a volunteer.

Dave Miller: Earlier this month, a Eugene-based environmental nonprofit filed suit against the U.S. Forest Service. They are trying to stop the agency from dropping flame retardant from the air when fighting wildfires. They say the agency is violating the Clean Water Act with continuous, ongoing, and unpermitted releases of pollutants into waterways. Andy Stahl is the executive director of the nonprofit. It’s called Forest Service Employees for Environmental Ethics, and he joins me now. It’s good to have you on the show.

Andy Stahl: Nice to be here, Dave.

Miller: Why has your organization been focused on the aerial use of flame retardant for more than a dozen years now?

Stahl: Well, it’s the single most hazardous activity that the Forest Service engages in. We lose pilots every year. That trade off might make sense, it might be worth killing a pilot if you were saving communities and homes, and might be worth killing fish and polluting water if doing so saved forests and communities and homes. The fact is it doesn’t. The dirty little secret about aerial fire retardant is that it doesn’t move the needle on fire effects, on what happens when you use retardant versus not using retardant. It’s because of that lack of evidence that retardant makes any difference in wildfire outcomes, that’s why we’re suing.

Miller: What does fire retardant do? If you’re saying it doesn’t prevent the loss of life or homes, does it not prevent the spread of wildfires in forests?

Stahl: In most situations, it does not prevent the spread of wildfires in forests. Just two years ago, our Labor Day fires are a really good example of that. Those fires spread. They were blown by high winds, and the high winds would blow a fire over any retardant line that you happen to draw on the landscape. That’s traditionally the case. We see that over and over, that these fires are affected more by wind than anything else. You take a fire, you combine it with fuels, and you blow hot air across it and it goes like crazy. It’ll jump a six lane freeway. It’ll jump a retardant line.

Miller: If what you’re saying is true, why do you think fire retardant is still used?

Stahl: That’s a really good question, Dave. I think it’s because people are reluctant to say that the emperor has no clothes. We like to think that we will throw everything into the mix, all the tools in our toolkit, and maybe some will stick, maybe some might make a difference. Because it’s a war against fire, basically anything goes and we’re just going to throw everything at it and prove to the public that we’re taking every effort possible to protect them.

Miller: Your argument isn’t simply that fire retardant from the air for wildfires isn’t effective, but it is itself a problem. What are the problems, that you see, that come from the use of these chemicals?

Stahl: So fire retardant is fertilizer. It’s ammonium phosphate, and it’s mixed with water. It’s the same kind of fertilizer that a farmer uses in their fields. We know that we want to keep fertilizer out of water. We would never countenance farmers dumping their fertilizer directly into the streams that flow through their property, but that’s exactly what the Forest Service does in fighting fires; it dumps fertilizer directly in the streams that flow through the National Forest. Doing so kills fish. This fertilizer turns into ammonia in the water, and ammonia is highly toxic to fish.

We’ve seen this on several occasions outside Bend, Oregon some years ago. A retardant drop was made next to a fish hatchery. Thousands of fish were killed. That stream took years to recover. So, since it doesn’t help us fight the fire, and on the other hand, it also kills fish, begs the question of why bother? Why not, if you want to fight fire from the air, why not just dump water? We know water doesn’t kill fish.

Miller: Would you support that? I mean, if you’re saying the fire retardant doesn’t work, are you arguing that water works better, or simply that water doesn’t hurt fish?

Stahl: Certainly water doesn’t hurt fish. It’s an open question whether fighting fire from the air makes any difference at all, whether you’re dropping water or retardant, but it’s a lot safer to do that experiment with something that isn’t toxic. If firefighters feel the need to continue employing an air force to fight fire, then dump the water and leave the retardant at home.

Miller: How much fire retardant is being dropped in the west these days?

Stahl: Millions of gallons. Half of the fire retardant dropped is dumped in one state, California. 98% of the retardant dropped is dropped west of the Mississippi River. Virtually no retardant at all is used East of the Mississippi River.

Miller: Doesn’t that roughly correspond to the places that have the most wildfires?

Stahl: No, but it does roughly correspond to the places that have the most federal land. Retardant is very expensive, and most state firefighting agencies that fight wildfires on private and state land don’t use retardant, because it is so expensive and its effectiveness is unproven. But when you’re the federal government, you get to print money. Basically, you can think of retardant as dropping dollar bills out of the airplane. It does just about as good. It’s that expensive.

Miller: It doesn’t sound like you’re actually endorsing dropping water from airplanes either. You seem very skeptical of, as you say, using an air force to fight wildfires. What are you suggesting instead?

Stahl: Every firefighter knows that you contain a fire with troops on the ground. People building a fire line around the fire. That’s the only way that we humans make a real difference when it comes to fire. We also know that, under conditions where it’s hard to contain a fire, low humidity, high wind, nature will be what puts a fire out.

Miller: Where embers could travel, say, a mile.

Stahl: That’s right. Then, basically, firefighters sensibly retreat. They don’t risk their lives. They retreat, and we hope for rain, because it will be rain that puts the fire out. All of which ties into the earlier conversation today on your show, Dave. It’s so important that people understand that they are not protected from fire. They need to take steps with their own homes to make them fire-wise, to make their homes and landscape resistant to fire, because just like earthquakes, just like tsunamis, just like hurricanes, we can’t prevent it. It will happen. So be prepared.

Miller: Just briefly: this is actually your third lawsuit regarding the aerial use of flame retardants. What happened with the first two?

Stahl: We won both of them. The first lawsuit we won, it established that the environmental laws do actually apply to retardant use. The government said they didn’t. The second lawsuit we enforce the government’s half-hearted attempts to comply with those laws. The result of that was that the Forest Service committed to avoid dumping retardant in water. However, the last 10 years has proven the forest service breaks that promise routinely, and it has dropped retardant and water hundreds of times. That’s why we’re bringing the third case.

Miller: Andy Stahl, thanks very much for joining us.

Stahl: My pleasure, Dave.

Miller: Andy Stahl is the executive director of Forest Service Employees for Environmental Ethics. I should note that we did contact the U.S. Forest Service and they told us that they do not comment on pending litigation.

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Subject: underspecification of tss_t

Section 7.26.6 “Thread-specific storage functions” of C11 is severely underspecified since it uses terms that are not introduced (so far) in the context of C. This is really a pity, since POSIX also has pthread_key_t that is completely feature equivalent and for which the specification is much more complete.

Jacob Navia had observed that at several occasions in comp.std.c but it seems that he had not got enough attention such that this had made it in a defect report.

The tss_create function creates a thread-specific storage pointer with destructor dtor, which may be null.

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I think several paragraphs should be added after the one above:

The effect is that for each thread that has the thread specific storage corresponding to key set to a value x that is not null, the destructor function *dtor is called with dtor(x) before the thread exits.

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If a destructor function for key issues calls to tss_set, tss_get or tss_delete with the same key the behavior is undefined.
tss_set can be used to set the value of a thread specific storage for a different key key2 that had not been set before or that has been processed with a call to the corresponding destructor.

By that the set of thread specific storages for a given thread may change during the execution of the corresponding destructors.

If after processing all tss that are active at the return of the thread function or at the end of thrd_exit there are still tss that are active the procedure of calling destructors is iterated. An implementation may bind the maximum number such of supplementary iterations by TSS_DTOR_ITERATIONS.

A second problem is that there are two functionalities that are easily mixed up and which interrelationship should be clarified: the destructor that is called (let us suppose this) at exit of a thread, and tss_delete that deletes a thread specific storage for all running threads. I think something like the following should be added in after para 2:

The deletion of key will not change the observable behavior of any of the active threads. If tss_delete is called for key and there is a thread that has a non-null value for key that has passed a terminating return statement or call to thrd_exit but not yet finished the processing of all its tss destructors, the behavior is undefined.

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Here’s a statement that should spark your interest:

“The amount of timberland that can be opened to hunting is directly proportional to the number of volunteers that sign up, so participation is vital to the continuation of this program.”

Those are the words of Sandra Jonker, regional wildlife manager for the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife. She’s talking about a cooperative access program between WDFW and the Weyerhaeuser timber company — a project worthy of Open Country designation.

Weyerhaeuser owns a tremendous amount of timberland across the nation with much of it in the western parts of the country. Those lands represent a substantial chunk of deer and elk habitat that may — or may not — be open to public hunting access.

In an effort to ensure that nearly a quarter-million acres of land near Washington’s Mount St. Helens is available to public hunting, WDFW has partnered with the timber company to implement a unique access program. And that program needs volunteers to continue.

The system is simple: Weyerhaeuser opens its lands to hunters holding special elk permits for additional motorized access to the St. Helens Tree Farm. All it asks is that volunteers be used to help direct any hunter traffic into areas that are available to hunting.

Volunteers will man access points to ensure all traffic stays on areas that are open and avoid any conflicts with active Weyerhaeuser operations that may be ongoing.

In previous years, the program has attracted about 50-60 volunteers. And, as Jonker stated, the more volunteers, the more access that’s available.

This is your chance to help secure public access. To volunteer at the St. Helens Tree Farm, contact WDFW here.

Volunteers must attend a mandatory orientation session and the final offering of this fall will be held at 6 p.m. on Oct. 24 at the Cowlitz Public Utility District Office in Longview.

There is perhaps even more focus on this year’s project given the recent decision by Weyerhaeuser to implement a paid permit system on some of its Washington properties in addition to taking bids for private leases.

In 2012,Weyerhaeuser introduced a fee permit system on its 155,000-acre Vail Tree Farm in eastern Lewis and Thurston counties as well as on 118,000 acres in the Pe Ell Tree Farm, located in Lewis County.

Weyerhauser made 750 permits available for the Vail property and all sold out quickly at a cost of $150 each. The Pe Ell location sold out of its 650 permits at $200 each.

Weyerhauser representatives have repeatedly said that the intent is not to charge for access at all Weyerhauser locations — but the fact that area hunters are concerned is understandable.

The St. Helens Tree Farm access program is one that should be duplicated. Volunteers are able to help keep hunters and motorized traffic in the correct areas while also monitoring for the activities that could prompt Weyerhauser to close its lands — trash dumping, vandalism and theft have all been cited by Weyerhauser as reasons for exploring different access options.

As hunters, we have repeatedly cited loss of access as a primary reason that we spend less time in the woods. Well, here’s a program that will ensure increased access. All it takes is someone willing to step up and volunteer.


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• Destination: Nepal
  • Trip Difficulty: Moderate
  • Trip Style: Sight Seeing & Trekking
  • Transport: Private Tourist Vehicle & Local Bus
  • Food: Breakfast, Lunch Dinner on Trek & Breakfast in Cities
  • Accommodation: 3 Star Hotel and Mountain Guest House
  • Group Size: 1-12
  • Max Elevation: 4990

  • Sightseeing tours of historical UNESCO World Heritage Sites in Kathmandu.
  • Scenic drive to Syabrubensi and back to Kathmandu.
  • Visit Langtang village and Kyanjing Gompa.
  • Visit of the local Cheese Factory in Kyanjing Gompa.
  • Great views of langtang Region Mountains from Kyanjing Ri.
Langtang Valley Trek

About Langtang Valley Trek 12 Days

Langtang Valley Trek is the closest trekking trail from Kathmandu. Langtang trek will take you to the beautiful Langtang region abundant in diverse vegetation, picturesque villages, and gorgeous scenery. The region is also extremely rich in cultural heritage.

Throughout the trail, you will pass by many small villages where you will get to see the locals' daily lifestyle, traditions, and norms.

If you want to experience Nepal's authentic traditional lifestyle in an unspoiled rural setting, a captivating beauty of a river valley, snowy grandeur peaks, and lush forest carpeted with seasoned blooming flowers, at every step of the trek. Then, the Langtang trek should be at the top of your Nepal trekking bucket list!

The valley is part of the Langtang national park, which finally marks Tibet's border. To explore the destinations of your trek, you will be walking inside the Langtang national park. The Tamang ethnicity, which is influenced by Tibetan culture and tradition, makes up the majority of the population in the region. They are welcoming people who extend warm hospitality to visitors.

With spectacular vistas of towering mountains, nature fascinates the entire Langtang region. The Tibetan-Nepal border is marked by the snow-capped mountains Dorje Lakpa, Changbu, Yansa Tsenji, Kyung Ri, Dogpache, Langshisha Ri, Langtang Lirung Gangchenpo, Morimoto, and Yala Peak.

It is encircled by Langtang National Park and is home to a variety of remarkable fledglings and untamed species. Among the Panthers, Jackals, mountain Tahr, Himalayan dark beer, and various species, including sub-alpine and alpine vegetation, the territory protects valuable wildlife such as the Red Panda and musk dears.

While travelling these pathways, you will be able to see some of the most amazing architectural splendour of monasteries. Also, the breathtaking vista of the mountains against the beautiful rhododendron woodland!

Similarly, this region also has high mountain cheese factories. You can stop by the factory and can taste delicious cheese. There are many things to explore in this region, and we, Outfitter Nepal will escort you to all the hidden treasures of the Langtang Trek.

Trekking in Langtang Region starts with a day's drive from Kathmandu to Syabrubeshi (starting point of the trek). Syabrubeshi is a Tibetan village, which is inhabited by people of Tibetan origin. Moreover, once the route was an important trading highway with Tibet and Nepal, therefore, most of the villagers here are still trade that is more bartering.

The Langtang Trek goes further up to the picturesque valley following the Langtang River. You reach Lama Hotel for your overnight stay. The trek then further continues to Langtang village and Kyanjin Gompa.

Outfitter Nepal has extensive expertise in conducting treks in Nepal's Himalayas. Our 12 days Langtang Trek package will allow you to go on the most thrilling adventure of your life. Join us on one of our Langtang region trek departure dates for 2022, or get in touch with us to tailor a Langtang Trek to your specific needs. Enjoy this exhilarating, breathtaking journey knowing that our qualified, experienced guides and porters will be ready to assist you at every turn. At Outfitter Nepal, we go to great lengths to ensure that all of your trekking aspirations come true. We look forward to assisting you in creating lifelong memories on your holiday, which can be completely tailored to your preferences.

It is impossible to convey all about the place and its beauty in a single package. Here are some of the most compelling reasons to book your 12-days Valley trek to Langtang with us.

Langtang after the 2015 Nepal Earthquake

Many homes and lives were destroyed in the April 2015 Nepal Earthquake. Langtang Village, which comes during the trek was one of the worst-affected locations among all the disaster zones. Almost all of the guesthouses were destroyed, and certain segments of the walk were ruined as a result of the disaster. For a long period, the area was likewise closed to trekking.

The good news is that trekking is once again permitted in the area. The majority of the guesthouses are presently being renovated. If you can't get a place in one of the few guesthouses, you might have to sleep in a tented camp.

The trek routes that were destroyed in the earthquake have been reconstructed on an alternative course. You do not need to be concerned about your comfort. The hike is as enjoyable as it has always been. Trekking to Langtang will contribute to the region's reconstruction. Your recreation will make a significant contribution to the local community's economic development.

Trail among the gaze of Langtang National Park

Langtang National Park, nestled in the Himalayan foothills, is truly a natural treasure. Some of Nepal's finest beautiful treks are found in this region. Plan a vacation to Kathmandu to experience one of the most enticing trekking experiences and dramatic wildlife encounters in the world. It was founded in 1976 to protect the region's distinctive flora and fauna. Witness the beauty in wildlife with our Langtang Trekking package!

Langtang National Park is the natural jewel of the Langtang region abundant in a range of flora & fauna. This national park has tropical and alpine forests. You will get to see a diverse variety of landscapes along with many Himalayan mountains like Yala Peak, Langtang Lirung, Gangchhempo, etc inside the park.

Moreover, the highest point of the park is Langtang Lirung. Along with stunning views, the park is also home to some of the rare wildlife like black bear, Himalayan tahr, red panda, dzo as well as rare species of deers & monkeys. Similarly, the holy lake of Gosaikunda also falls under Langtang National Park where hundreds of pilgrims visit every year to worship.

Easily accessible and off-the-beaten trails

The Langtang Region, located north of Kathmandu Valley, is the closest and most accessible trekking destination. Langtang is only a 7-8 hours’ drive away from Kathmandu. The trek begins in Syabrubeshi, the Langtang gateway, and follows the simple off-beaten lower region routes to Kyanjin Gompa (3,803m/12,556ft), the highest human settlement on the mountain.

Langtang is an easy destination! It is the greatest alternative to Everest Base Camp or Annapurna Base Camp for average fit trekkers with limited time.

Jaw-dropping picturesque view of the Langtang Himalayas

The wonderful views of the Langtang region make it stand out among other regions of Nepal.

Langtang Trek Nepal provides breathtaking views of Langtang Lirung (7245 m), Dorje Lakpa (6966 m), and Mt Gaurishankar (7134 m). These peaks can be seen from various locations along the route, as well as while travelling.

The trekkers are surrounded by a clean environment and magnificent vistas, in addition to the view of the mountains. The trekkers are in for a treat with all the greenery, blossoming flowers, hills, rivers, and waterfalls, as well as the possibility of encountering rare wildlife. The trail goes through several beautiful & dense forests oak and rhododendrons. On clear days, you might also see views of Mt. Annapurna and Ganesh Himal.

Experience the rich Tamang Heritage

You visit several villages and settlement sites, such as Syabrubesi, Langtang Village, Thulo Syabru, and others during the trek. Indigenous tribes reside in these territories. They are welcoming and treat visitors to their villages with the utmost respect. During your tour, you will also be able to learn about their way of life and culture.

Langtang region is dominated by people from the Tamang community. The trail includes many Tamang villages where you will get to experience the rich culture, tradition, and lifestyle of the Tamang people. They are said to be the descendants of Tibetans, therefore if you have heard of Tibetan culture, you will find many similarities.

Kyanjin Gompa and why you must visit!

Kyanjin Gompa is one of the most famous and significant monasteries in the Langtang region. This monastery is situated at the foothill of Langtang Lirung (7,227 m), Dorje Lakpa (6,966 m), and Langshisha Ri (6,427 m). Other than this, there are many monasteries that you will come across during the valley trek.

Kyanjin Gompa is considered a significant Buddhist pilgrimage site and one of the region's most notable monasteries. Although it is bordered by a tiny settlement, the entire region is known by its name. Trekkers frequently spend a day here to adapt to the higher altitude and avoid getting sick. One can learn about Buddhist culture and Buddhism in general at the gompa.

Additionally, Kyanjin Gompa, which is estimated to be 400 years old and is the most sacred gompa in this region, is located on the slopes of Mt. Langtang Lirung.

Glaciers and their magnificent aura

The valley of Langtang is known as "the Valley of Glaciers" because of this glacier! The Langtang Glacier, the longest among the region's glaciers, flows from the Himalayan summit of Langtang Lirung. With altitudes ranging from 4,500 to 7000m, the glacier is largely covered in debris. The glacier creates a wonderful mood in the valley and makes trekking in Langtang a pleasure.

Tsergo Ri

During the 12 day trek to Langtang, Tsergo Ri is the highest point you travel to. It is a famous vantage point from where you will get to see an excellent view of the surrounding landscape. You will also get to see outstanding views of moraines, glaciers, and the Himalayan Mountains.

The hike to Tsergo Ri begins in Kyanjin Gompa hamlet, which is located at 3,800 meters above sea level. Tsergo Ri is one of the must-see sights in Nepal's Langtang National Park, located at an elevation of 5,000 meters above sea level. From the top, you can get a 360-degree view of the mountain ranges. There are no other water sources save the local teahouse and lodges. As a result, you'll need to take lots of water and food with you on your hike to Tsergo Ri. Tsergo Ri has located about 4 hours or a 4-hour walk from Kyanjin Gompa.

Langtang Valley Trek Cost

The 12 days Langtang trek costs US$ 600 for a group of 12 people. It is the cost of the standard Outfitter Langtang trek package for the Langtang valley. If you have a group of more than 12 people, we can modify the package cost to meet your needs. The pricing may vary anywhere from US$ 735 to US$ 900 for a solo trekker or a small group of trekkers.

Please note that the trek cost will alter if you want to modify the accommodation or meal services included in the overall standard cost package. Whenever possible during the trip, we can upgrade your overnight options for better tourist-class accommodations with attached restrooms.

While a luxury hotel in Kathmandu or other cities can surely add to your experience, most accommodations in the Langtang region are modest. Whatever the case may be, we will make every effort to make your trip as pleasant as possible.

Hence, the cost of a trekking package in the Langtang region varies depending on whether you want to customize your accommodations or change the schedule! Read the cost including and excluding parts to explore more about the services given with the standard Langtang trek cost!

12 days Langtang Valley Trek Itinerary

Outfitter Nepal's 12 days valley trek to the Langtang region is totally customizable and can be tailored to address your needs. We can create a customizable plan for you if you want to adjust the trek's itinerary to include fewer or more days.

Our standard package includes a 12-day trip to the Langtang Valley, but it can be tailored to your specific needs! Before or after your hiking expedition, we can also organize a sightseeing excursion for you! Please keep in mind that by adding more travel days, the itinerary package's days must be extended! If you want to visit other tourist destinations such as Pokhara or Chitwan or stay in Kathmandu for a few days to take in the sights, the days on the standard package must be extended from 12 to any number of days you want!

We recommend having a few days on hand if you wish to extend your vacation to Nepal! The cost varies depending on the changes made to our standard 12-day Langtang Trek itinerary. Outfitter Nepal, on the other hand, makes certain that you receive the most bang for your buck!

Is COVID-19 risk management implemented by Outfitter Nepal?

Yes. Outfitter Nepal understands the dangers that at-risk travellers pose to the Nepali population, as well as the dangers of COVID-19 exposure to visitors visiting Nepal. We comply fully with all Nepal Department of Immigration travel regulations and immunization requirements. While trekking or travelling remote Nepal, we also demand our workers to be vaccinated, as well as social distancing and hygiene procedures. Our goal is to reduce COVID-19 exposure concerns for our clients and the rest of the Nepal community while still providing a wonderful travel experience for them while they are in our care.

How difficult is it to trek in the Langtang Region?

Langtang's trekking trail has a stunning combination of uphill and descent. There's also a steep route with a steeper slope than the others. Despite the difficult and rocky terrains, people in this region are passionate about trekking. One reason for this is the richness of wildlife, including uncommon species such as Himalayan deer, Red Panda, and Snow Leopard. Other factors include perennial rivers, flourishing forests, a rich culture, and numerous others.

Langtang Trek 12 days is an easy journey in the beautiful Langtang region. The trail is relatively easier than many other trails in Nepal in terms of steep and technical climbing. However, you have to walk 5 to 6 hours daily, and that does require a healthy body and good physical fitness.

When is the Best Time to go out to trek in the Langtang Region?

Prepare for your Langtang Region Trek by considering the season in which you will be trekking. Autumn and spring are usually wonderful times to embark on a Langtang trek. Autumn is defined as September, October, and November, whereas spring is defined as March, April, and May. Autumn and spring both provide trekkers with a very suitable and pleasant trekking environment.

During this time, the weather and temperature in the Langtang region range between 15-20 degrees, which is fairly comfortable for hikers. During these two seasons, the forests get bloomed up with beautiful rhododendrons & oaks along with numerous other vegetation. And, the clear sky makes the views of the Himalayan Mountains more alluring.

Autumn and spring, on the other hand, may not be the greatest times to trek in Langtang for those looking for a calm walk, as the trails grow congested during these seasons.

Do you need any permit to trek in the Langtang Region?

Langtang National Park contains trekking routes in the Langtang region. International trekkers must pay an entrance charge and receive a TIMS card to trek in the Langtang region.

Foreigners must pay 3,000 NPR plus 13% VAT, totalling 3,390 NPR (about US $34) to enter Langtang National Park. Entry cost for SAARC nationals to Langtang National Park: NPR is 200.

Permission granted by TIMS: TIMS cards come in three varieties. Green, blue, and pink are the colours of these cards. Individual trekkers require a US$20 green card. For US$ 10, you can purchase a blue TIMS card for organized group trekkers. Your pink TIMS card will cost only US$6 if you are a member of the SAARC.

What kind of food and accommodation services will I be provided in the overall package?

While trekking in the Langtang Region, you will stay overnight in the teahouse. The room will not be big and luxurious, still, you will get a clean & cosy room with basic facilities. Also, there are high chances of getting common washrooms.

All the meals will be served on the menu of the teahouse. People from Tamang and Sherpa communities run these teahouses, therefore you will also get to taste their delicacies. Dal Bhat, a Nepalese dish, offers your body enough carbs and protein. The lentils, beans, and pulses soup will provide enough protein for your body. Seasonal veggies will also be served in the guest's home, supplying your body with additional nutrients.

You can sample other menu items including Momo (dumplings), locally grown Barley, Buckwheat, Millet, and Corn Roti (Bread), noodles, sandwiches, bakery products, tea, coffee, and more if you give them a chance. In Kathmandu, you will stay in a 3-star hotel to a 4-star hotel. The rooms will be on bed & breakfast terms. There will also be a welcome and farewell dinner.

What kinds of gear do you need for the Langtang trek?

One of the most crucial considerations is what to bring for the trek in the Langtang region. It can be difficult to get around if you don't have the right equipment.

Here's a rough idea of what you'll need for your valley trek.

  • Trekking Boots
  • Sandals/Crocs
  • Few pairs of undergarments
  • High quality down jacket and pant
  • Thermal wears
  • T-shirts and trousers
  • Trekking pole
  • A pair of gloves
  • Woollen hat
  • Sunglasses
  • Sunscreen
  • Energy bars

How fit do you need to be to trek in the Langtang region?

The Langtang Trek is a moderately difficult trek that does not necessitate a high level of physical endurance. For any type of hike, though, it is advisable to be somewhat fit. Being in good physical shape will allow you to enjoy the stroll without placing too much strain on your body. Prepare your body for the trek a few weeks ahead of time. Read up on how to be in shape for hiking, take a city walking tour, and stick to a regular exercise routine.

Do you need any insurance for trekking in the Langtang Region?

If you're planning a hike to Langtang Valley, it's a good idea to have travel insurance. You may encounter unforeseen situations while travelling at such high altitudes. Thus, getting travel insurance for the Langtang Trek is critical.

Choose insurance that includes coverage for emergency helicopter evacuation, medical expenses, natural calamities, theft, and losses.

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Day 1: Arrive Kathmandu airport and transfer to hotel

You will arrive at Kathmandu airport and met by our airport representative and transferred to hotel, evening free and overnight at hotel in Kathmandu.

  • Accomodation:Hotel
  • Place:Kathmandu
  • Altitude:1345

After having breakfast at hotel, we take you for the sightseeing tour in Kathmandu city that includes visit and tour of the Kathmandu Durbar Square, Monkey Temple, Pashupatinath Temple and Baudhanath Stupa, will return to hotel and you will have some free time to shop your trekking gear in Thamel area if you need.

  • Walking Hours:6
  • Food:B
  • Accomodation:Hotel
  • Place:Kathmandu
  • Altitude:1345

After having early breakfast at hotel, we start our drive about 7 am in the morning and head north out of Kathmandu, driving through scenic foothills and ridgeline vistas to Syabrubensi, the first part of the drive up to Trishuli Bazaar is quite smooth, then the path moves along the gravel road, during the rainy season, the way is sometime blocked due to landslides.

  • Walking Hours:7
  • Food:B, L, D
  • Accomodation:Guest House
  • Place:Syabhubeshi
  • Altitude:1500

After having breakfast at lodge, we start our trek and it is easy trekking for today, at first, the trail gradually ascends to Landslide (1810m.), afterwards, we trek ascends gently to Rimche (2400m.) through Bamboo (1960m.) and at the end of the trail is flat level path to the Lama Hotel, en route we could see red pandas and bear (we are lucky), and monkeys.

  • Walking Hours:7
  • Food:B, L, D
  • Accomodation:Guest House
  • Place:Lama hotel
  • Altitude:2480

After having breakfast at lodge, we start our trek and there are occasional glimpses of Langtang Lirung between the trees while we trek through the Jungle, at Ghora Tabela (3000m), the trail emerges from the forest, and we will catch a glimpse of white monkeys and local birds, once there was a Tibetan resettlement project, but now it is a Nepalese army post though it has no permanent inhabitants, the trail continues to climb gently and the valley widens, passing a few temporary settlements used by herders who bring their livestock to graze in the high pastures during the summer months, check into the lodge.

  • Walking Hours:7
  • Food:B, L, D
  • Accomodation:Guest House
  • Place:Langtang Village
  • Altitude:3430

After having breakfast at lodge, we start our trek and the trail climbs gradually through small villages and yak pastures as the valley opens out further, the views become more extensive now and it is short trek for today to Kyanjung, after crossing several small streams and moraines, the trail reaches the settlement at Kyangjin.

  • Walking Hours:4
  • Food:B, L, D
  • Accomodation:Guest House
  • Place:Kyanjing Gumpa
  • Altitude:3830

This is day to rest and explore the Kyanging area, we will visit the monastery and the cheese factory, walk up the moraine to see the spectacular ice faces and tumbling glaciers of Langtang Lirung or ascend Kyangjin Ri [4350m], directly behind the village, for a breath-taking panorama of the Langtang peak or we can make day trip to Tseguri.

  • Food:B, L, D
  • Accomodation:Guest House
  • Place:Kyanjing Gumpa
  • Altitude:3830

After having breakfast at lodge, we start trek from Kyangjin, we retrace our trekking route, following the Langtang Khola to Langtang village and on to Ghora Tabela, the Aater lunch at Ghora Tabela, we continue the steep descent to Lama Hotel.

  • Walking Hours:7
  • Food:B, L, D
  • Accomodation:Guest House
  • Place:Lama Hotel
  • Altitude:2480

After having breakfast at lodge, we start our trekking descending to Land slide and the routes separates form here to the Syabru Gaun, we will take the upper route then, the trail ascends all the way to Syabru Gaoun, From here we will enjoy spectacular views of Langtang Lirung, Tibetan Himal ranges.

  • Food:B, L, D
  • Accomodation:Guest House
  • Place:Syabrugaun
  • Altitude:2560

After having breakfast at lodge, we start our trek and today is the last day of our trekking and it is easy trekking to Dhunche, the first part we trek the flat and down through the forest of Rhododrendron and fine and the another part once we reach the road then we simply follow the road ascending to the Dhunche.

  • Walking Hours:7
  • Food:B, L, D
  • Accomodation:Guest House
  • Place:Dhunche
  • Altitude:1960

After having early breakfast at lodge, we start our drive about 7 AM in the morning and after driving about 8 hours we arrive to Kathmandu.

  • Walking Hours:7
  • Food:B, L, D
  • Accomodation:Hotel
  • Place:Kathmandu
  • Altitude:1345

You will be transferred to the international airport for your final departure to your loving home. OUTFITTER NEPAL has taken pleasure in serving you all of these weeks; you counted on us & we didn’t let you down because we know how hard you’ve worked to enjoy this holiday. Meeting you was an immense pleasure & we do hope you will remember us down the years with memories of the time you’ve spent in this amazing country that’s Nepal. A safe BON VOYAGE home…takes care!!!.

If you want to take other tours in Nepal such as Chitwan Jungle Safari, Bardia Jungle Safari, Pokhara Tour or Lumbini tour then you can start from today and do let us know if you want to take any tour as we also arrange those tours.

  • Food:B

Trip Map

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What's Included

  • Airport transfers.
  • 3 night hotel in Kathmandu including breakfast.
  • A day sightseeing tour in Kathmandu.
  • Meals (breakfast, lunch & dinner) on trek.
  • Accommodations in lodges on trek.
  • A guide & porters (1 porter for each 2 trekkers and a porter carry about 20-22 KG from 2 of you).
  • Paper works, National park entry permits, & TIMS permit.
  • Ground transportation by local bus.
  • Arrangement of emergency Helicopter service which will be paid by your travel insurance company.
  • Sleeping bag, down jackets and duffel bag – if Necessary (return after the trek).
  • Nepal entry visa fee (you may easily issue the visa upon your arrival at Tribhuwan International Airport - Kathmandu).
  • Travel insurance (compulsory).
  • Meals (lunch & dinner in Kathmandu).
  • Your personal expenses, drink water, hot and cold drinks & bar bills.
  • Laundry, telephone, hot shower & internet charge.
  • Entrances Fees while visiting Kathmandu on second day.
  • Tips for the guide and porters.
  • Anything not mentioned in included section.

Price & Dates

Group Price
No. of peoplePrice P.P
1 - 1 US$ 900
2 - 5 US$ 735
6 - 12 US$ 600
Departure Note:
  • We have set date to departure the Langtang valley trek. So, select your date and book the trek.
  • If your preferred date is not listed then contact us for the further process to book on your own date as the trek is available on any date of the year.
  • We have listed the price for up to 12 people only so, if you are more than 12 people then please contact us for the group price and further process to book the trek.
  • Private trek is available on any date of the year, contact us for the booking.
  • Single persons are welcome to join the trek and single people have single room in Kathmandu and have to share room in the mountain lodge on trek cause of the less number of lodge and rooms available on remote mountain lodges.
  • Guaranteed dates are guaranteed to departure and we already have people booked for date.
  • Available dates are available to book and become guaranteed once you book for that date.
  • Closed dates are closed and not bookable on that date however if you are available only on that date then contact us as we may have some other alternatives.
  • The departure dates are your arrival dates in Nepal.

Upgrade and Options

DatesStatusPrice FromNote
30 Nov, 2022 - 11 Dec, 2022AvailableUS$600

Useful Information

Langtang Valley Trek difficulty

Langtang Valley Trek 12 days is an easy journey in the beautiful Langtang region. The trail is relatively easier than many other trails of Nepal in terms of steep and technical climbing. However, you have to walk 5 to 6 hours daily, and that does require a healthy body and good physical fitness.

Langtang National Park

Langtang National Park is the natural jewel of Langtang region abundant in a range of flora & fauna. This national park has tropical and alpine forests. You will get to see a diverse variety of landscape along with many Himalayan mountains like Yala Peak, Langtang Lirung, Gangchhempo, etc inside the park.

Moreover, the highest point of the park is Langtang Lirung. Along with stunning views, the park is also home to some of the rare wildlife like black bear, Himalayan tahr, red panda, dzo as well as rare species of deers & monkeys. Similarly, the holy lake of Gosaikunda also falls under Langtang National Park where hundreds of pilgrims visit every year to worship.

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Outlook is a Personal Information Manager (PIM) application from Microsoft available both as part of MS Office suite or as separate application. Outlook found its identity as Offline Mail Accessing Program and becomes popular as a mail client application. Outlook serves a user with calendar, tasks-manager, journals, to-do lists and web browsing capabilities aside mail synchronization (Send/Receive).
The data file used to store the complete items of a Microsoft account are known as Outlook Data files. There are two types files, Outlook has i.e.PST (Personal Storage Folder files) & OST (Offline Storage Data files) and these are saved as .pst and .ost.
When the MS Outlook account is configured with IMAP, POP3 and web-based mail accounts then PST file is created.
On the other hand, OST files are used when the user has an Exchange account and wants to work offline or use the default Cached Exchange Mode. This Outlook data file (.ost) is also used for accounts that are set up with the Outlook Connector for OST files are the copy of items saved on the mail server, so it is not needed to backup these files like Outlook Data Files (.pst).
Location of Outlook Data files:
for emails, contacts, tasks, calenders , notes (.pst files):
  • drive:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Outlook
  • drive:\Users\username\My Documents\Outlook Files
  • drive:\Documents and Settings\username\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook
for offline and cached data items (.ost files)
  • drive:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Outlook
  • drive:\Documents and Settings\username\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook
Basically three types of protocols used in Microsoft Outlook are there:
  • Post Office Protocol version 3 - POP3 is a standard mail protocol used to receive emails from a remote server to a local client. POP3 allows you to download email messages on your local computer and read them even when the user is offline.
  • Simple Mail Transfer Protocol - SMTP is the standard protocol for sending emails across the Internet.
  • The Internet Message Access Protocol - IMAP is a mail protocol used for accessing email on a remote web server from a local client.
IMAP and POP3 are the two most commonly used Internet mail protocols for retrieving emails.
Post Office Protocol version 3 (POP3):
It works on two ports:
  • Port 110- a default POP3 non-encrypted port.
  • Port 995- this is the port to connect using POP3 securely.
The Internet Message Access Protocol (IMAP):
By default, this protocol works on two ports:
  • Port 143- a default IMAP non-encrypted port.
  • Port 993- to connect using IMAP securely.
Simple Mail Transfer Protocol (SMTP):
By default, the SMTP protocol works on following three ports:
  • Port 25- a SMTP non-encrypted port by deafult.
  • Port 2525- opened on all SiteGround servers and in case port 25 is filtered then to send non-encrypted emails with SMTP.
  • Port 465- to send messages using SMTP securely.
There are many applications which provides safe mode option to enable people to execute the programs with limited functions. Running a program such as Outlook in the safe mode helps you to resolve problems quickly. There are various errors like sending-recieving problem, file corruption that could be resolved.
Journal keeps a track of any interaction that the user wants to remember. Journal automatically record the actions that we choose which relate to specific contacts and puts them in action in a Timeline view. Journals keeps track of all the Microsoft Outlook items, such as mail messages or meetings. It can also track other MS Office files, such as Word documents or Excel workbooks etc.
Auto Archive option helps to manage the space in your mailbox or on the e-mail server which you are using by automatically moving the items to an archive location in order to manage the space.
Outlook Autodiscover service is to establish the initial connections to the Exchange user mailboxes. If the connection get established then it also helps Outlook to access Exchange Server features.
Microsoft Outlook with Business Contact Manager only comes with Outlook 2013 edition. It is a great customer relationship management tool for the business owners because they can use it to improve the effectiveness of their customer service, sales, and marketing efforts.
Outlook Blacklist is the list of SPAM emails recieved by the account holder which is not important and just occupies the memory of the Outlook account.
Microsoft Outlook Anywhere is a service provided by the Client Access server role. This application allows the Outlook users to make a secure connection over SSL/HTTPS to the mailbox from the remote locations. Basically, it is a feature that allows the Outlook clients to access the corporate emails as well as calendars over the Internet from outside the corporate domain without loging into a virtual private network (VPN).
Outlook box, also referred as Outlook Mailbox, the application is used for sending and recieving the emails. To change the settings of the Box for Outlook, follow the steps:
  1. Create a new email.
  2. Select the gear icon labeled Settings. It is next to the icon "Attach from Box".
    This allows you to sign out of your Box account as well as determine how often your attachments are saved straight to Box.
The Outlook Cached Mode is basically a copy of the mailbox saved on the system of the user. This mailbox copy provides a quick access to the data, and is frequently updated with the server that runs Microsoft Exchange.
The Outlook Calender is a feature that provides the Outlook user to keep the complete records of the meetings and remainders. It helps to manage the schedule for the particular user.
The Outlook Connector is used to access and manage a Microsoft Office Live Mail account or a Windows Live Hotmail account.

Search the Key Information About Outlook 365

Outlook 365 is an email client of the Microsoft Office 365 suite. It is same as MS Outlook that is installed on our local system.
Outlook is an desktop-based email application and when we use Outlook in Office 365 account it is known as Outlook 365.

Know the Vital Details About Outlook for Mac

In Mac, Outlook file are stored in:
~/Documents/Microsoft User Data/Office 2011 Identities/Main Identity.
Under that directory, the e-mails are stored in Data Records/Messages. There are no PST and OST files used in Outlook for Mac.
Instead of a PST or OST, Outlook for Mac client stores its data in OLK file format, i.e. OLM file. This file is not created by default but has to be generated using the means of export featured by the client.
OLM file can be termed as a Mac Outlook backup file. This is the data file generated by Outlook 2011 for Mac OS X. Since, we get the extension .olm after exporting the data from MAC Outlook. Locally you will get OLK file arranged separately for every identity like message, contacts, etc. This data file is also a proprietary of Outlook 2011 for Mac and can only be access/read by the respective application.
The Outlook 2011 for Mac client was released as part of the MS Office Suite 2011 version, which was introduced exclusively for Mac OS. The client uses the backend OLK14 MESSAGE file for when a message is read on the client end by the user. The OLK file format only stores the corresponding message header data (only).
OLM file is the backup file of Mac Outlook and it is generated by Outlook 2011 for Mac OS X.
Mac Outlook 2011 uses the backend file OLK14 MESSAGE when the user reads a message is read on the client end. This OLK file format stores the header data of the corresponding message only.

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Monday, July 28, 2008

First Ajax Script

I had a mini-land mark happening recently. I was creating a web page that allowed a user to scroll through images of a photo library. Now normally this wouldn't be that big of a deal because they're just new links/pages. However, this page was different because there is music playing in the background. I couldn't have the entire page refresh because then the song would start all over. Lame.

There are a couple ways to tackle this problem and I decided to try doing it with Ajax. Basically, Ajax allows you to update only parts of a page without reloading the entire thing. It sends a simple command to the server which returns only that part. This has two benefits. First, once the page is loaded, updating information on the page is really fast. Second, it allows for cool visual effects including, like I'm doing, letting things continue to run while other parts change. If you use Gmail, many parts use Ajax.

So I found a good tutorial and followed it. To my surprise, Ajax is extremely easy to use. The cool part about it is that it's not a new language, it's simply a new way of using existing languages (javascript with PHP, Perl, ASP or XML for those keeping score). So, from now on, I'm sure almost all my web pages are going to be using Ajax just like many of my pages currently use javascript and PHP.

Tuesday, July 22, 2008

Ready to Get Married

Welp, I'm ready to be married. The big day is on Sunday and it looks like it's going to be great. Jessi and I had our last date before being married. We went to a nice restaurant, got ice cream for desert and watched a movie (Batman is a must see, by the way). We dressed up and really had a good time. It kind of reminds me of getting closure. We were able to "finish off" that part of the relationship officially and now move on.

It was so nice, mostly because we just took a break on our crazy schedules to reflect on where we've been and dream about where we're going. We recalled funny stories and talked more about our plans for the future.

We've really been laying the groundwork this last year and have a solid foundation in place. We've been doing research on different business and investments (and putting our feet in the water a little). We've also been bringing people onto our team to help us achieve our goals. In this last month we put the final pieces together to... You know what? I'm going to stop because this is starting to sound more like a business merger instead of a marrage.

Where was I? Ah yes. I'm so thankful to have met Jessi. Besides helping me dress better, she has been a blessing in my life. I'm ready to marry her and it's going to be great. Family starts showing up today and the party will last until Wednesay and then we'll be off to Paris for our honeymoon. Very, very exciting!

Thursday, July 10, 2008

Clothes Tranformation

I met Jessi on a blind date our freshman year at Willamette. It was a mass blind date where older girls on the cross country team set the freshman runners up. I was told we were going to go bowling and to "wear something casual".

I really like the super-casual look.

At the time, I didn't own a pair of jeans, but I did own a suit for church on Sunday. So, I showed up wearing workout shorts and a t-shirt... Yeah, great impression. I know (now).

Eventually a polo shirt was given to me. So I wore that around with my workout shorts. At one time, Jessi's roommate, only seeing the top half of me congratulated me on finally getting respectable clothes. Of course, then she saw my shorts and proceeded to attack me for my poor fashion sense.

Believe it or not, it gets colder in Oregon than central California. So I bought a couple pairs of jeans to keep warm. Man, my stock sure shot up fast! Suddenly I almost looked respectable.

When I got accepted to grad school I decided it was time to really up my game. I bought some polo shirts and some khaki pants. I even went all out and got some dress shoes. For the first time in my life I had "business casual" outfits. Thankfully my mom and Jessi took the time to explain what worked together and what didn't.

Once I graduated and got a job in Oregon I decided to splurge and bought some khaki cargo shorts. I didn't actually get them because they look better than workout shorts. I got them because I wanted pockets. Yes, before graduating I had my wallet and keys hanging from a lanyard which I swung around my neck - no pockets needed.

I'm sure my wardrobe will continue to transform, but it really stuck me when Jessi and I were flying recently. We were traveling - a completely casual situation. Historically, I would wear warm-up pants with a sweatshirt while flying. That day I was wearing my khaki shorts, a polo shirt and flip flops. I sure looked a lot different than my "kid" self.

I like to think my choice of clothing has come a long way despite me being such a slow adopter in the clothing space.

Monday, July 07, 2008

Kenny Loggins Concert

Jessi and I had the pleasure of seeing Kenny Loggins live at the Cuthbert Amphitheater in Eugene on Sunday (quite a busy weekend indeed). The concert started at 7:30pm and went until 10pm. It was so much fun! He played many of his classics (Pooh Corner, Conviction of the Heart, Danger Zone, Footloose, etc.) and a few new songs. Here's a pretty sweet music video of Danger Zone.

The best part was Jessi's reaction. She knew I liked Kenny Loggins and had all of his CDs. She had also heard him on the radio, so she knew he wasn't some no-name artist. The fun part was when she realized she knew all of his songs and was able to sing along with me. Ah yes, it was a blast.

Now we have to rent the movie Footlose so she can watch the whole thing with Kenny Loggins' song. Here's a picture of the night:

Saturday, July 05, 2008

4th of July Celebration

Jessi and I got to hang out with the Parry Family this 4th of July. It was a ton of fun! We went to a parade, played Rock Band, had a Bar-BQ, shot off fireworks and watched Independence Day outside on a projector. Needless to say, it was one epic event. It started at 11am and I didn't get to bed until 2am. Below is a little video of the day's events. There's also a slide show with more pictures detailing what happened. Is this a sign of things to come with the new camera? We'll see.

When it started to get dark we really started playing the with camera. So, some of the pictures are... well... weird. Some, like the pictures of the fireworks, are pretty cool.

Thursday, July 03, 2008

New Camera

Jessi and I just got a new camera in preparation for our honeymoon in Paris. It's a Canon Rebel XTi. In just the few hours I've been playing with it, it seems like a great camera.

Here's one picture that Jessi took.

Tuesday, July 01, 2008

One Surface, All Activities

The count down is on: 26 days until the Wedding! So in preparation Jessi and I have been looking at apartments for "our new life together". It's really exciting and has also got me thinking.

This is an opportunity to rethink the way I live my life we live our lives. I mean, there are going to be so many changes it may not hurt to experiment a little bit. Right? :)

Here's my idea: What if we did everything on one surface? One surface, all activities. I think of it like my computer screen where I have one desktop where I do everything. I don't switch computers or go somewhere else - I bring the file to the front, to me. What if we just had one big table where we use our computers, eat food, watch movies, play board games and fold clothes. I almost added sleeping on it, but that almost seems a little extreme.

Now that I think about it, this wouldn't be much different from the way I already live. My living room and kitchen are one room and that's also where I use my computer, watch movies, cook and eat. As a matter of fact, that's also where I sleep since I started sleeping on the floor.

I guess the biggest difference is the size of the table. Currently I have a small card table which barely fits my computer (thankfully I have a TV tray right next to it). I'm thinking of a table that is closer to a piece of ply-wood: huge! That way both Jessi and I can be at the same table with multiple things on it for each of us at the same time.

Of course, there is the issue of where such a large table could go. Would it just overwhelm the living room and leave the kitchen under utilized? Maybe the solution is to have two or three large work areas (like an extra computer monitor?) we move between. What I'm really trying to get at is not having "dedicated" areas I suppose.

What do you think? Is this really a revolutionary idea or are people already doing this? How can I tweak this idea to really shake things up?


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2.6 STIs: We need to talk about men and HPV - with Alix Fox

Media Storm

Come to Media Storm's live show at the London Podcast Festival! 18th September, 7pm TICKETS HERE: kingsplace.co.uk/whats-on/words/media-storm/ Most people will get the most common STI at some point in their life. It's called human papillomavirus, or HPV, and has more than 100 different strains. Some strains of the virus cause genital warts, and some cause abnormal cell changes that can lead to cancer. You might know that HPV causes cervical cancer and you might have noticed a huge drive to get women vaccinated. What you probably don’t know is that men can also get HPV, can pass HPV on, and are at risk of penile, anal & throat cancers. So why don’t we don’t talk about this?This week, Media Storm hears from men who are living with the effects of HPV, and those who used their experiences to change the vaccination process for boys and men - after a long battle with the UK Government. Plus, broadcaster, writer, shagony aunt, sex educator and script consultant on Netflix's Sex Education Alix Fox joins us in the studio to discuss how STIs are represented in the press, the complicated reporting of Monkeypox, and why TV shows and films have such a big responsibility to portray STIs accurately. The episode is hosted by Mathilda Mallinson (@mathildamall) and Helena Wadia (@helenawadia). Research by Camilla Tiana. Music by Samfire @soundofsamfire.Speakers: Jamie Rae @TCF_Foundation @throatcancerfoundation Steve Bergman @steveb2025George Light @georgelight74 Jason Mendelsohn @SupermanHPV supermanhpv.comDr Tanaya Narendra @dr_cuterus  Alix Fox @AlixFoxResources:Throat Cancer Foundation throatcancerfoundation.orgThe Swallows Head & Neck Cancer Support Group theswallows.org.ukHPV Action hpvaction.orgSources:HPV Vaccine and College-Age Men: A Scoping Review https://bit.ly/3Q4IgkfJCVI Interim Statement on Extending HPV Vaccination to Adolescent Boys https://bit.ly/3Rt8oGxJCVI statement on HPV vaccination of men who have sex with men https://bit.ly/3wJWnoa HPV and Men – Fact Sheet https://bit.ly/3R7cS5G HPV vaccine set to be extended to boys, after pressure on equality grounds https://bit.ly/3CLwA2OGet in touch:Follow us on Twitter http://twitter.com/mediastormpodor Instagram https://www.instagram.com/mediastormpodor Tiktok https://www.tiktok.com/@mediastormpodlike us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/MediaStormPodsend us an email mediastormpodcast@gmail.comcheck out our website https://mediastormpodcast.comMedia Storm is an award-winning podcast brought to you by the house of The Guilty Feminist and is part of the Acast Creator Network. Become a member at https://plus.acast.com/s/media-storm. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

1 Sep 2022

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Harry Johnson and Alix Fox on Sex

Dear Deidre

In this episode of the Dear Deidre podcast Sally Land is joined by sex educator, Alix Fox, and Netflix’s Too Hot To Handle winner, Harry Johnson, to give advice on your sex problems. They’ll be addressing letters on premature ejaculation, threesomes and they discuss the challenges that come with the orgasm gap. Timestamps:00:00: Sally introduces Harry and Alix onto the podcast.03:05: Alix and Harry share the worst sex advice that they have been given.05:35: Alix and Harry share the best sex tip they’ve ever been given.06:25: 1st letter, from a woman who has a much lower sex drive than her toy boy husband.14:35: 2nd letter, from a man who’s struggling with premature ejaculation.21:30: 3rd letter, from a young woman who is finding it hard to reach a point of climax when having sex with her boyfriend.25:55: 4th letter, from a man who’s found himself in a messy threesome.33:00: Harry and Alix give their best sex advice.33:20: GoodbyesRemember to follow, rate and share the podcast with friends and family! This podcast episode is brought to you by The Sun and produced by Anya Pearce, a Wireless Studios Production. Make sure to follow Deidre on Twitter and Instagram and to discover more of our award-winning journalism visit www.thesun.co.uk/dear-deidre Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.

30 Jun 2022

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SEX: Cumming, Casual Sex and The Campsite Rule with Alix Fox

Exactly. With Florence Given

This week, for our final SEX episode, Floss sits down with Alix Fox to answer your questions about everything from reaching the big O to saying a big no! Alix is a sex writer, educator, journalist, podcaster and queen of puns as well as the Script Consultant on Netflix's Sex Education, the Host of acclaimed Audible series KINK!, the co-host of  BBC Radio 1's Unexpected Fluids AND the winner of Best Sexual Health Ambassador 2020. Alix is incredibly prepared and has some excellent advice on navigating sex with disabilities, first queer sexual experiences, hook-up culture, emotional bonding, consent and lots more. Get ready for the hot-and-flustereds because nothing is hornier than happy, healthy sex! You’ve been sending in your texts and voice notes, and calling in, via our dedicated podcast  Whatsapp hotline number +44 7890 302665 and today Floss and Alix will answer as many of them as they can. Some of the amazing resources Alix recommended can be found below: LELO for sex toys Ferly the app- for masturbation My Body Back Project- for sexual health Hannah Witton- for sex and disability Andrew Gurza- Disability After Dark Scarleteen- for a sex menu Find Alix Fox on Twitter or Instagram @AlixFox Find Floss on instagram and Tik Tok @florencegiven Click here and use the code EXACTLY to get 14 days’ free access to CHEEX - the new and revolutionary membership offering a safe space for sexual entertainment and education. The promo is valid for new customers when selecting the yearly subscription option. Cancel anytime during the trial period. Original theme music by Black Honey. Find them on instagram - @blackhoneyuk Instrumental bed is Black Honey’s song ‘Beaches’. Find the transcript for this episode here: https://somethin-else.github.io/transcripts/exactly/s1e4.txt This is a Somethin’ Else production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

7 Feb 2022

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The Pod 20

A little more detail: The Pod 20, hosted by multi-award winning presenter, Graham Mack, is a weekly show featuring guest podcasters talking about their podcast, what they’ve been up to, what they’ve been listening to....and the top 20 podcasts according to Podcast Radio. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

23 Oct 2020

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The Happy Vagina

This week Alix Fox joins The Happy Vagina to educate co-hosts Mika Simmons & Chloe Delevingne on all things Vibrator! Which are the best, how to use them, and why self pleasure is so important for our mental and physical health.This episode of The Happy Vagina is sponsored by DAME, the brand on a mission to make our periods plastic free. DAME launched the world’s first reusable tampon applicator, to save our oceans from the 1.3 billion tampon applicators thrown away every year in the UK alone. The DAME reusable applicator, gives all the comfort of an applicator, but without the waste. Visit DAME’s website wearedame.co to find out more about them and their amazing work.Loving The Happy Vagina? Please do subscribe to be the first to know when a new episode drops!The Happy Vagina with Mika Simmons is hosted by Mika Simmons, produced by Tanja Pagnucoa and researched by Alice Hill.We'd love to hear from you! Email:hello@thehappyvagina.coSocial:@TheHappyVagina@MissMikaSimmons Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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1 Sep 2020

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BARE ALL | Dating as a sex expert (+ more) with Alix Fox

The short title of this episode does NOT do it justice. This week we are joined by the wonderful Alix Fox to talk about her job as a sex expert, having a type, Elton John in a bath of eels, armpits, sex education season 3 secrets, the truth about HIV and honestly, a tonne of other topics (you'll see). Get ready for a night in with Alix Fox and BARE...

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12 Aug 2020

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A Female’s Guide To Mastering Masturbation w/ Alix Fox | Ep 23

The Sex Therapy Podcast

May is masturbation month and there is no better way to celebrate than discovering ways to master masturbation. This week we focus on female masturbation and Alix Fox joins Dr. Jones to discuss ways woman can get the most out of their masturbation routine! This episode also features a review of the Liberty from Womanizer.

25 May 2020

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3: The Art Of Masturbation (With Alix Fox)

Am I Making You Uncomfortable?

This episode of Am I Making You Uncomfortable? is all about enjoying time with yourself.Journalist and sex educator Alix Fox joins Brogan Driscoll and Rachel Moss to chat sex toys, stimulation and how you can have a relaxed, enjoyable time of self-love.Go behind the scenes. Subscribe to our newsletter to hear what inspired us to tackle the topics you're probably too squeamish to talk about.  Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.

12 May 2020

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Normal People: Let’s Talk About Sex

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Evanna, Riyadh and sex expert Alix Fox unpack the sexual dynamics in Normal People.

27 Apr 2020

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SEX: An honest conversation with Nadia Deen and Alix Fox

Honestly Podcast with Clemmie Telford

Kickstarting season three off with the stickiest of subjects - Clemmie is talking about sex. Something we all secretly want to know more about, and a topic that firmly needs destigmatising. Clemmie is joined by Nadia Deen - founder of AM appointment, and Alix Fox, journalist and consent writer for Nexflix's Sex Education. As always, honest conversations at the core of this episode, so lean in and learn more about the sex positive work they are doing to help us all feel more comfortable with sex and pleasure.For the full transcription of the episode please follow honestlypodcast.comThis episode is sponsored by Smarty Mobile. Please visit www.smarty.co.uk/honestly for more details.To vote for Honestly to win the Listener’s Choice Awards, please visit: https://www.britishpodcastawards.com/vote

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